The Grand Mufti’s Sex Tape and Violence in Islam

3F3F0009-F8B6-46F9-B50A-9655616388D6_w640_r1_s_cx1_cy4_cw82I was reading along in an al Arabiya story about the Grand Mufti of Kyrgyzstan’s sex tape – what? You haven’t heard that the Grand Mufti of Kyrgyzstan is embroiled in a sex tape scandal? Indeed he is, and now Rakhmatulla-Hajji Egemberdiev has resigned, even though he maintains his innocence – because, you see, his youthful enamorata on the tape was no lady, she was his wife.

Egemberdiev’s puritanical detractors, however, pointed out that however lawfully married he may have been to the fetching starlet, he was already married to someone else – and no matter how legal and even encouraged polygamy may be in Islam, it is still illegal in Kyrgyzstan. And so, despite maintaining that his “dignity has been hurt” by the leak of the video, Egemberdiev is laying down his crescent-topped staff and becoming, says al Arabiya, “the sixth Kygryz [sic] mufti to be replaced in four years.”

That’s quite a turnover, and al Arabiya helpfully explains that it is because “recent grand muftis, who are elected to five-year terms, have resigned early amid corruption scandals and been kidnapped and beaten.”

Now wait a minute. As everyone knows, Islam is a Religion of Peace – only venomous, bigoted, racist, hate-filled purveyors of “Islamophobia” dare even entertain the possibility that it could be anything else. So one would expect Grand Muftis, the highest religious authorities in Sunni Muslim countries, to be, as a rule, sober, upright, godly, and peaceful. Of course, human weakness being what it is, there will always be the occasional corruption scandal, and the Muftis couldn’t necessarily help being kidnapped and beaten: that is the sort of thing that has happened to many holy people over the ages.

Still, six muftis in four years, embroiled in corruption scandals, kidnappings, and beatings, suggests a climate of violence beyond the ordinary, particularly when it comes to leaders of a notable Religion of Peace. It is striking also how reminiscent this climate of violence is to that of the times of the first four leaders of the Islamic community after the death of Muhammad. Although these four are (like their prophet himself) shrouded in legend, they are revered among Sunnis as the four Rightly Guided (Rashidun) Caliphs, whose domains were a kind of earthly utopia, a time when Islam was practiced properly, Sharia was fully implemented, and justice therefore reigned supreme.

Islamic tradition has it that Abu Bakr was the first of these. During his two brief years as Muhammad’s successor, he brutally subdued a large-scale uprising from Arab tribes that saw their chance with Muhammad’s death to throw off Islam: the Wars of Apostasy. Soon afterward, Abu Bakr, despite being one of Muhammad’s closest and most trusted companions, was poisoned and died. (To be sure, some Islamic traditions hold that Abu Bakr wasn’t really poisoned, but succumbed to a chill brought on by cold weather. However, as it was August in Arabia when he died, this is unlikely in the extreme.)

His successor was another one of Muhammad’s close confidantes, Umar ibn al-Khattab, who reigned for ten years before he was murdered by a Persian soldier, Pirouz Nahavandi, after the Muslims had conquered Persia. Umar’s successor, Uthman ibn Affan, was also assassinated, as was the last of the Rightly Guided Caliphs, Ali ibn Abi Talib – both by Muslims who opposed their rule.

Thus we have the extraordinary prospect (straight out of Islamic tradition, since the historicity of all this is dubious at best) that the four (or three out of the four) earliest and most revered rulers of the Religion of Peace, all of whom are supposed to have known their prophet personally and drunk in his wisdom, met violent ends. One might be forgiven for suspecting that something within Islam might be creating a culture of violence that led to the violent deaths of some of its most iconic figures – just as nowadays in Kyrgyzstan, there just might be something about Islam that has led to the kidnappings and beatings, to say nothing of the corruption scandals, surrounding so many of the recent Grand Muftis.

What could be responsible for this culture of violence? Could it be a holy book containing passages like these?

2:191-193:  “And slay them wherever you come upon them…”

4:34: “Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them.”

4:89: “They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.”

5:33: “This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off…”

5:38: “And the thief, male and female: cut off the hands of both, as a recompense for what they have earned, and a punishment exemplary from Allah; Allah is All-mighty, All-wise.”

8:12: “When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!”

8:60: “Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to terrify thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatsoever you expend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.”

9:5: “Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.”

9:29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden — such men as practice not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book — until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.”

9:111: “Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfills his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.”

9:123: “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”

47:4: “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads.”

“Tie fast their bonds” and then set them free or ransom them – could that be where the Grand Muftis and/or their opponents got the idea that a kidnapping might be in order?

Naaah. Passages like those couldn’t have anything to do with any violence among Muslims. Why are so many Muslim leaders, past and present, brutal and brutalized, from the Wars of Apostasy to the torture meted out to Gaddafi by an enraged Libyan mob? It remains a mystery. Just remember: it’s a Religion of Peace, no matter the evidence of your senses, you bigoted Islamophobe.

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  • Lef_Elliot

    Excellent article, as always. Thanks.

  • Dyer’s Eve

    Spot on as always, Mr Spencer. A pity those who practice the ‘religion of piece’ don’t all hack themselves to death. Then the rest of us can get on with our lives… in peace.

    • Miip

      The republicans are in a tough spot. I have been voting republican & will continue. I am a centrist by nature. You can not vote as a centrist in reality at least in as how things stand now.
      You said.

      “A pity those who practice the ‘religion of piece’ don’t all hack themselves to death.”

      Well, it is not that quite simple is it? I know I have said it myself.
      But, it is a broken record….

      You are not going to change the situation by saying this over and over again. They are killing each other off now in Syria & Iraq with many innocents. You got war torn Africa with the upsurge of violent jihadist as well in Afghanistan in to Pakistan & on a smaller scale around the rest of the world. The stealth jihad is all around the world.

      The stealth jihad needs to be defeated by hearts & minds. It is not just good enough to just get the information of what is happening such as from this site. It also has to be won politically.

      My suggestion is to engage the left as much as you can on social sites and educate them. That is what I have been doing. It has worked so far. It is counter productive otherwise….

  • Taimoor Khan

    Read the Torah (Old Testament) and Talmud. Gory stuff. What about it?

    Your attempts at advocating hatred are easily foiled! Pathetic soul you are.

    • Omar

      Quit echoing Stalinist/Maoist Islamist jihadist lowlife statements, you Communist/Islamist lowlife.

    • Moa

      The Muslim cleric is supposed to be above such things. He’s a fsken hypocrite – he tells others what to do and then commits evil. Too bad your tiny brain cannot comprehend this.

      > “As for violence, like we can forget Canaanite Holocaust”
      LOL. As if this was unique. Why not mention something more recent, say the Armenian Genocide carried out by Turkish jihadis ?

      > “Dark Ages”
      The Dark Ages were brought on when Islam destroyed the cultures and learning of the ancient world. It was Islam that destroyed the centers of learning, and burned the Great Library of Alexandria. The “Dark Ages” were not due to the fall of Rome, civilizations still continued well after that. It was the barbarity of Islam that caused the loss of knowledge. Did you not know this fact?

      At least the Dark Ages passed for Europe half a millennia ago. Ever since Al Ghazali in the 12th Century the Islamic World has been in the Dark Ages and that continues to this day. Even worse, the Islamic World wants to spread its Dark Ages over Europe and the rest of the World.

      > “witch hunt”
      In the West you have to go back centuries for this. In the Islamic World the witch hunts go on today.

      > “World Wars ”
      The Islamic Ottomans were deeply involved in the World Wars – and committed many shocking atrocities. The current ‘World War’ is global islamic jihad against Enlightenment Civilization. Look at Syria for how evil Islam is (against other Muslims too).

      > “million of Iraqs killed by American war,”
      FALSE. The *Muslim* Iraqis killed far far far more of each other than the 66 thousand the Us killed.

      > “million of Palestinians oppressed by Naz! Israel”
      FALSE. The Islamic Arab leadership oppresses the ordinary Arab citizen (not just in Gaza or Judea&Samaria, but all over the Islamic and Arab World). The million Arabs in Israel get treated far far better than the Egyptians and Jordanians in the disputed territories claimed in 1967 as “Palestine” (on the basis of of a Soviet disinformation campaign – by communist *Egyptians* like Yasser Arafat).

      > “America is a bigger terrorist than Al Qaida ANY DAY of the week, by ANY
      definition of terrorism, and by ANY standard of justice and humanity. ”

      COMPLETELY FALSE. The West tries to treat Arabs with respect, to an insane degree of tolerance. The Islamic World act like spoiled immature brats (which is exactly what they are, with their verifiably anti-scientific backward superstition with its Mafia-like extortion system). The West is getting fed up with the nonsense, bad behavior and general degree of uncivilized thuggery of the Islamic World. The global jihad has zero chance of succeeding, and is increasingly counter-productive. It is only a matter of time before the Islamic world collapses in the fact of modernity, rationality and secular humanism. In short, Islam is dying, but Muslims try to convince themselves otherwise. Once Arabia and Iranian petrodollars run short then Islam is really in a great deal of trouble – and you will have p!ssed off the 5.4 Billion non-Muslims in the World. Your superstition is going away.

      > “Your attempts at advocating hatred are easily foiled!”

      Yawn. It is Islam that pushed hatred. The rest of the World has woken up to the conceits and deceits of Islam. Mohammed the evil pedophile warlord’s little scam is failing in the face of modernity and science.

      > “Gosh, extremists are so easily beaten by arguments! ”

      Assertion does not make your falsehoods true. Those that tell the truth about Islam are not “extreme”, and truth is never defeated. We don’t care if you convince yourself otherwise – because the inevitability of science is grinding the nonsense of Islam into the dust of history. The fictional Allah is as irrelevant as Zeus, and Apollo, Poseidon, Rama, Ahura Mazda etc etc. What has Allah done for you lately? nothing! because he does not exist. The sooner you come to this realization the sooner you can begin to make the most of your short, non-repeating life, and do good for others with their single and short chance on the planet too.

      Religious nutcases are so easily beaten with truth and science!

      • http://ansonmac.blogspot.com/ AnsonMac

        Ok, lets start with the ” dark ages” ie the fall of the eastern roman empire…. who picked them up, Western rome, which soon became the Byzantine Empire and later the ottoman empire. First it wasnt the muslims who caused the fall of rome, but corruption from within and the weight of an expanding empire and pressures from without, including regional uprisings, external pressure (non muslim) etc…. so blaming it on muslims…. false

        Now witch trials….which still happen today in christian africa, happened in the US up till the early/mid 18th century (if not later….Ben Franklin mentions witnessing them in some of his writings)

        As for Holocausts and genocide, do you ignore what the “peace loving christians” did to the native americans on this continent, less than 150 yrs ago???

        • Moa

          You are very historically confused.

          The “Dark Ages” did not coincide with the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire (which endured for a thousand years after the fall of the Western Roman Empire). The Dark Ages began when Islam destroyed the civilizations of Persia, the Levant (especially Syria), Coptic Egypt, and North Africa. Those regions were the most populous and stored most of the knowledge of the ancient world. Islam swept through, slaughtered millions, oppressed even more and burnt anything that wasn’t Qur’anic.

          The Roman Empire did not become the Byzantine Empire. The Roman Empire decided to switch to a governance model of “The Tetrarchy” with administrative centers in Rome and Constantinople (formerly Byzantium). When Rome fell Constantinople simply took over – and even managed to re-capture the Western Empire for a time (before internal scheming led to the dismissal of loyal generals – kinda like what Obama is doing today).

          No, the Muslims did not cause the fall of Rome, which was caused by Germanic barbarian tribes, including some the Romans had as allies within their borders (kinda like the immigration policies of the Democrats today). The Arian Heresy (which would later branch to become Islam) did exist at the time, but Islam was not created until later. When the Muslims did arise they took advantage of the exhaustion of the Byzantines and Persians who had just fought a titanic war with each other.

          The Muslims did then conquer peripheral territories of the Byzantines and destroy the knowledge there and slaughter the citizens.

          > “Now witch trials”

          Happening routinely in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Indonesia etc. Furthermore, in Africa the witch trials are scare villagers. In the Islamic world they are investigations carried out by the police and imams (you can’t separate the two in the Islamic state).

          > “As for Holocausts and genocide, do you ignore what the “peace loving christians” did to the native americans on this continent, less than 150
          yrs ago???”

          Colonize it. Nothing unusual by the standards of today.

          It is funny that dhimmi apologists always have to do their ‘cultural relativism’ nonsense by referring to the sins of the West hundreds or thousands of years ago. In contrast it is simple to point to the barbarity and backwardness of the Islamic World *today*. That is the fundamental difference – despite all the advances of civilization into the 21st Century the Islamic World refuses to take part, and retains the anti-scientific superstitious mentality of Al Ghazali from the 12th Century. Even worse, they want to spread their stupidity and error on the rest of the World. Islam wants to bring another Dark Age to the World, just like it brought the first one. Muslims also think that if Islam ruled the World there would be peace, but this is nonsense, 1400 years of history show that if Islam ruled the World you would get the atrocities of Syria on a perpetual and global scale. The main victims of Islam are Muslims, and Islam is an evil and ‘satanic’ system of oppression – which oppresses man rather than liberating him and promoting reason and Enlightenment.

          In short, you are wrong to the point of delusion AnsonMac. No wonder you like Islam – you don’t know anything about its real history. Just a fiction designed to fool the weak minded and those to lazy to check the facts about Islam’s unparalleled history of barbarity and retardation of human progress.

          • defcon 4

            “retardation of human progress” an apt characterization of islam, if only that were all it was.

  • Taimoor Khan

    Read the Torah (Old Testament) and Talmud. Gory stuff. What about it?

    As for violence, like we can forget Canaanite Holocaust, Dark Ages, pogroms, holocausts, witch hunt, slavery, World Wars etc. Only that now west carries out brutality behind a veneer of “human rights” – million of Iraqs killed by American war, million of Palestinians oppressed by Naz! Israel, etc.

    America is a bigger terrorist than Al Qaida ANY DAY of the week, by ANY definition of terrorism, and by ANY standard of justice and humanity.

    Why so much violence? Yeah?

    Your attempts at advocating hatred are easily foiled! Pathetic soul you are.

    • einnob

      Mr. Khan, you are the one who is pathetic. Your violent, bigoted, supremacist religious-cult is pathetic and dangerous to others who are not Muslims. Get of this site ,You do not belong here.

      • Drakken

        Let this paki inbred savages speak freely, it gives everybody insight into what these savages think and what they believe.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Agreed.

          Happy Eternal Paki Nakba!

    • kilfincelt

      I am not going answer all of these accusations but WW II was started by Nazi aggression and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem backed up Hilter on his determination to kill Jews. In fact the Turks killed a million Armenians and the way in which they did it may have served as the example to the Nazis.

      The Palestinians are oppressed by themselves, not by Israel. They spend all of their time thinking of ways to attack Israel rather than trying to actually forge a workable nation state.

      Slavery? Really? First of all, Muslim nations were strong believers in slavery and enslaved millions. Their armies consisted of slaves: both black and white. In many cases Muslim agents provided slaves for the Americas. Furthermore, slavery still continues in some Muslim nations and many Muslim countries would like to see slavery legitimized again. Christian nations were the first to stop the practice when they realized that slavery was incompatible with their beliefs.

      Times change and so must people along with their belief systems. The West went through the period of Enlightenment. Not so Muslims. Islam has not changed in 1400 years. Today’s Imans still call for violent Jihad against non-believers and continue to cite Qur’anic verses to back up their actions.

      • Taimoor Khan

        Nazism and whatever happened under it is your headache, not ours. Hitler had plenty of “inspiration” for his deeds within west that he didn’t need any lesson from Turks.

        Palestine should start working as a workable nation state under occupation? Would you like living under occupation? You are blaming the victim in the most nonsensical fashion?

        Slavery – yes, Muslims practiced slavery too. So you agree everyone did bad.

        And as I said, if you don’t have crusaders now, you have maniacs like Bush and Obama who kill millions in the name of “human rights”. So as I said, America as a country is the bigger terrorist than Al Qauida by epic proportions.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Your “Pal-e-SWINE” is on the East bank of the Jordan River.

          It’s called Jordan.

          Even the UK is getting sick of Paki savages who have made london a cesspool.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Then give West Bank and Gaza (as under UN resolution) to Jordan. At any rate, the land shouldn’t be given to Israelis, who are Russian and Polish settlers.

            The Palestinians are local to the, confirmed by historical and genetic record!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The Israelis have taken back their land, stolen by Arabs and their “pal-e-swinian” brothers who originated in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan.

            Arab invaders, Arab settlers go back to Mecca.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Palestinians are indigenous, not Arabs from Arabia.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Your so called “pal-e-SWINIANS” are indigenous to Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Mecca.

          • defcon 4

            All this muslo-nazi has confirmed for me is the fact that there is no peaceful solution to islam0nazism — it’s us or them. It’s either freedom and liberty or an islamic dark ages.

          • Drakken

            Hey dumbazz, you muslims lost the wars you started, sorry, no do overs. live with it or perish.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, If you are not a complete idiot, please tell us which religion came first.

            Islamofascism is the Religion of Terrorists.

            That’s why so many of them are named some variant of their prophet of Satan called “Muhammed”.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Muslim belief is that it was Islam which was corrupted to become “Judaism” by ancient Israelites.

            But technically, Judaism came before Islam – what is the issue?

            Palestinians are mostly descendants of converted Jews living in their ancestral land.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islam is a corruption of Judaism and Christianity with a lot of sand paganism thrown into the mix.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Doesn’t matter what you think of Islam. Local Jews converted to Islam (and still many do!) and became what we now call Palestinians.

            Palestinians are the true ancient Israelites, not European Khazari Jews!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Wrong again Khancer.

            The fact that Jews lived in Israel and Yemen and Syria and Saudi Arabia prove your foolish claim that Jews converted to Islam another foolish koranic lie.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You love “Pal-e-SWINE”?

            Give pakistan to your “pal-e-SWINIANS”.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Why don’t you give part of America to Israelis?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You love “pal-e-SWINE”?

            Give parts of Pakiland, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen to your “pal-e-SWINIANS”.

          • defcon 4

            Paleswine are arabs, let them go back to saudi arabia.

        • Drakken

          We infidels haven’t killed millions of you inbred muzzy savages yet, but you effing savages will drive us to do it soon enough. Deo Volente! God Bless the Crusades!

          • Taimoor Khan

            Millions have been killed in Nicaragua, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq, etc. American and Western crimes are on the top as I write.

            BTW, time is coming when NUCLEAR Pakistan, Iran, Arab world, China and Third World countries – and even some European countries – combined will teach America a lesson it won’t forget in a thousand years.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            TENS of millions of Hindus have been murdered by savage islamofascists.

            India WILL punish Pakiland.

            Millions of Muslims have been killed by FELLOW MUSLIMS.

            Tiring of killing Muslims, islamofascists are branching out to kill non-Muslims.

            That’s why airports screen passengers – looking for islamofascist savages who plot another atrocity.

          • Taimoor Khan

            If you go back in history, then where did the Hindus come from? Hindus were Aryan invaders who massacred MILLIONS of Dravidian locals and enslaved others and introduced a brutal caste system.

            Should that be avenged from today’s Hindus? (Maybe history has already avenged).

            You are not making sense. Atrocities were committed by all cultures in the past and still are committed by many.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            TODAY Islamofascists are committing terrorist atrocities ALL OVER THE WORLD.

            No place is safe.

            Planes, buses, Marathons, shopping malls, schools, Olympics.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Any Muslim atrocities PALE in comparison to American killings the world over! Should I recount again?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            1,400 years of Muslim atrocities PALE in comparison of American wars.

            Ask a Hindu what they think of Islam.
            Ask a Christian what they think of Islam.

            Ask a Jew what they think of Islam.
            Ask a Bahai what they think of Islam.
            Ask a Buddhist what they think of Islam.
            Ask a Zoroastrians what they think of Islam.

            Ask a SOCIALIST what they think of Islam – it’s Hearts and Flowers for fellow savages.

          • Drakken

            You would be well to learn not to get us westerners upset raghead, otherwise allah isn’t going to save you from our wrath.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Like Crusades? Who were handed on a platter?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Imperialist Islam was defeated at the Gates of Vienna.

          • Drakken

            Yeah sure haji, keep believing the Islamic propaganda, it will just make it that much easier to eliminate you all.

          • defcon 4

            Millions of Hindus were slaughtered in Bangladesh in the 1970′s by muslimes paki pig.
            A million more najjis kaffir were slaughtered in the Sudan/Darfur in the late 20th century. Muslimes haven’t stopped killing the najjis kaffir either.

          • Drakken

            You keep that in mind raghead, when we westerners tire of your little jihadist games, we will be killing you by the millions with a vengeance not seen since the Crusades.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Crusaders ran for their backsides after getting handed to them on a platter. You want the same fate for your western pals? War is not solution. Hate is not the answer. Be a human being!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Hate is not the answer.

            The hateful koran is certainly not the answer.

          • Drakken

            War in the end decides all things, that is why you muslims are scared to death of what we will do to you.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Hahahahaaa!!!

          • Drakken

            Today you laugh, tomorrow you will be fleeing in fear, a day that cannot come soon enough.

          • defcon 4

            Eat camel dung.

          • Drakken

            Those Chins you think that will side with you will eliminate you by the millions without blinking an eye.

    • defcon 4

      It’s always interesting to see how muslimes insipidly rationalize away their current persecution, murder and rape of the najjis kaffir, instead of taking any concrete action whatsoever to stop it, much less any responsibility for it.

      • autdrew

        CURRENT being the operative word. The west has worked hard to overcome our barbarism, not so in islamic countries. They celebrate it! They encourage the continuing of it through their children. Hey, some idiot, brainwashed kid (NEVER the guys in charge, hypocrites) blew himself up and killed innocent people! Let’s dance in the streets and pass out sweets!

    • Russian

      Israel = Arab deputies in Parliament, Arab citizens, Arab soldiers in military, compulsory Arabic language education in schools, etc. And Arab political parties as well.

      Palestine = NO JEWS! I mean not ‘a few’, i mean ‘no Jews’. Oh, and also there’s islamic militancy (Hamas attacking shias, salafi attacking Hamas, Hamas vs Fatah, muslims opressing Christians and Atheists sometimes).

      Shove your excuses up your ass, muslim moron :X

      • Taimoor Khan

        Because Palestinians are indigenous and most Israelis are “Russian” like you!

        • Omar

          So-called “Palestinians” are an invented people created by the Soviet Union and it’s Communist allies like Nasser’s Egypt. The Israelis are an indigenous people being threatened by thugs who support the religion of the homicidal pedophile Muhammad. ThThe Tibetans are an indigenous people being threatened with extinction by Communist China, which is suplifted by turd-eating Communist/Islamist lowlifes like yourself. Get a life, Khancer. Nobody supports your evil, radical left-wing/ Islamic propaganda anymore.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nonsense. Palestinians are local to the land and confirmed by genetic studies. The land at any rate belongs to the local people and not to Russian and Polish settlers.

          • Drakken

            Those Jews came, they saw and they conquered, and you lost.

          • Taimoor Khan

            So what if a powerful criminal comes to your house and grabs your house and throws you out in a garbage yard? Would you say “He came, he saw and he conquered”?

            (Btw, Jews didn’t conquer; it was the British).

          • se

            A powerful criminal terrorist called “muhammed”?

            Defeat “muhammed” and his army of jihadi terrorists.

          • Drakken

            War decided who owns the land haji, not your crying about it. To the victors go the spoils.

          • Taimoor Khan

            So answer me about your house? What if a criminal breaks into your house and throws you out and take hold of it? Okay?

          • Drakken

            Here let me make this really simple for you raghead, wars you inbred savages started, were lost by you muslims, therefore you lost any right to anything in the territory you lost, got it now? Or do I need to break it down some more for you to understand it?

          • Taimoor Khan

            But the issue is, you are wrong. War was not started by Muslims. War was started by settlers trying to occupy the land.

            If you want to go back to antiquity, then who massacred Canaan and captured Palestine?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            War has been started by islamofascist pigs against Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Zoroastrians and the WRONG KIND OF MUSLIM.

          • defcon 4

            The “wrong kind of muslim” implies there’s a right kind of muslim, which there isn’t.

          • Drakken

            The current owners of the land was won by the Israeli’s, you can whine and cry about it all you want, it still doesn’t change the brutal fact you muslims lost, period.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, 9/11 was the beginning of the end of Islam.

            Islam must defeat the savage elements within Islam or mecca and kabbah will be utterly destroyed – for starters.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Not justifying 9/11, but it was a very small atrocity compared to the destruction America has inflicted on the world.

            You think Americans are worth more than others?

            As for Mecca and Kaba, do remember Vatican. I appreciate art and wouldn’t want to lose it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islam has killed more people over 1,400 years.

            Over to you “muhammed”..

          • Taimoor Khan

            What about total killed in Christian wars since 2000 years ago?

            Back to you, little Hitler.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islam calls itself “the Religion of Peace” – and kills anyone who denies that claim.

            Over to you Sheik SHlTler.

          • Omar

            Who are you calling Hitler, Hitler?

          • defcon 4

            Gee, people of which religious persuasion are fond of Hitler? IN which countries is Mein Kampf still a bestseller. Your lies are so thin an infant kufar could see through them.

          • autdrew

            Hitler was not a Christian nor was he fighting in the name of Jesus. Ridiculous comparison.
            The “Christian Wars”, are you speaking of the crusades, a response to HUNDREDS of years of islamic invaders raping, pillaging, stealing, slave taking & land theft? Every one always forgets why the crusades happened

          • Omar

            Oh, please. You support all Islamist terror attacks because that’s the mentality of you jihadist monkeys. Anyway, Communists and Islanders are behind the majority of activities committed in the world throughout history and in modern times. That’s the reality.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Muslims War with EVERYBODY.

            If Israel were the problem then Muslims would be living in peace with their Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Bahai and other sect Muslims.

            Are Muslims living in peace with their neighbors – or at War?

          • defcon 4

            Ever heard of the TuQuo Que fallacy of argumentation? Of course not, because that’s not something they teach in islam0nazi states.

          • autdrew

            Don’t forget, Jews bought most of that land from muslims. It was considered a waste land and few people lived there until the Jews improved and modernized it. That’s when the Arabs calling themselves Palestinians (now, not then) came flooding in.

          • Taimoor Khan

            I had enough of the discussion on this article and logically bashed the ignorant into submission and/or blabbering, but I won’t let this lie of you pass.

            It has already been stated, but I will state again. What is now Palestine-Israel combined was PREDOMINANTLY populated by Muslim Palestinians (who were/are mostly local converted Jews and Christians) WELL before recent British sponsored settlements of Eastern European Jews.

            The barren land is a myth refuted by serious scholarship and all evidence – of course, if you don’t consider that a barren patch within a populated area means you can take the land – otherwise give Nevada Desert to another country.

            And you recognize that when you say it was “bought”. Bought from whom? Locals, right? Those who were living there before settlers. And the land bought doesn’t mean you make a new country out of it, otherwise, all the Muslims who have estates in the west might be entitled to make their own little “countries”. Plus the % of land bought compared to what constituted Israel (even within UN borders) is VERY low.

            Satisfied? Why live in lies?

          • Omar

            Monkey-f**k, your ignorance is on full display again. Jews have lived in the Holy Land continuously for over 3000 years. Regarding the Palestine Mandate (Palestine was the Latin, not Arabic, name given to the Holy Land by the Romans who conquered the region in 66 AD. The name Palestine referred to the Philistines, who were Greek sailors who had red hair. The Philistines were not Arabs), the British divided the land and gave 80% of the partitioned land to the Hashemite royal family in the early 1920s. That land became known as Transjordan and is now known as the Kingdom of Jordan. The fake “Palestinian” nationality was invented by your beloved Soviet Union (and supported in contemporary times by its modern-day successor, neo-Communist Russia at least since 2000) and its client states like Nasser’s Egypt when the Communists created the so-called Palestine Liberation Organization. The last thing we need is a Stalinist/Maoist Idlamist jihadist monkey troll telling us revisionist history. Instead of trolling false information, why don’t you focus on real human rights violations like the current situation in Tibet, which your beloved Communist China is still occupying and still commiting genocide against the indigenous Tibetan people. Respect Israel’s right to exist and quit trolling, you jihadist monkey-f**k lowlife.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Jews were in Israel BEFORE your pedophile terrorist prophet of Satan called Muhammed came on the scene.

            The Arab criminal has been evicted from their ill gotten gain.

            Plus the Israelis are NOT the unarmed Jews of terrorist mohmameds time.

          • Taimoor Khan

            But the Jews who were there MOSTLY CONVERTED to Islam. Palestinians are mostly the descendants of converted Jews! So it’s Palestinian land through and through!

            Got it?

            If you want to dig up history, then what about Whites invasion of America? Should whites be thrown out?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Wrong again.

            Your “Pal-e-SWINIANS” are a false people – who are infact Egyptians, Syrians, Iraqis, run of the mill savages.

            Jews were in Israel BEFORE Islam was invented by your prophet of Satan called Muhammed.

            Islamofascists are Imperialist Invaders who have been defeated by Infidels.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nonsense. Genetic evidence CONFIRMS that Palestinians are descendants of ancient Israelites.

            Problematic as it may be, but Palestinians are MORE Jewish than Jews themselves – genetically!

            Read here, dumbo:
            http://mondoweiss.net/2008/09/israeli-historian-palestinians-are-biological-descendants-of-bibles-jews.html

            Happy? Even Ben Giron knew that the Palestinian Bedouins were the inheritors of ancient Judea!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I’m sure there were Jews who were forced against their will, at the sword, to convert to islam, just like there were Hindus who were forced to convert to islam.

            islam has a history and a RECENT history of savagery, cannibalism, beheading, stoning, poison gasssing.
            .

          • Taimoor Khan

            And how did Europe became Christian? :D

            But btw, the point is proven that Palestinians are LOCAL. Palestinians are not from Arabia, but the descendants of ancient people of the land of Palestine.

            How dare Polish and Russian settlers displace indigenous population?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            How did North Africa, Middle East, East Asia become Islamist?

            Remember pal, 6 BILLION Infidels.
            1.5 billion Muslims.

            Who do you think will prevail?

            Do you think that islamfascist terrorism builds good will towards Islam – or disgust?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Just like Christianity spread all over to Europe – through conquests. So what?

            Terrorism is terrorism – not Islamic or Christian or Jewish. Terrorism stemming from Arabs/Muslims has to do with decades of Western involvement and atrocities against Muslim/Arabs.

            It is a geopolitical issue. American imperialism must be curtailed for terrorism to be solved.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            TODAY, islamofascist TERRORISM is plaguing the World.

            That is why there are checkpoints at every airport in the World.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islamic Imperialism is a Crime Against Humanity.

          • Omar

            Russian imperialism, Chinese imperialism, Cuban imperialism, Iranian imperialism, “Palestinian” (invented people) imperialism, [North] Sudanese imperialism, Communist imperialism and Islamist imperialism all must be curtailed in order for there to be peace, democracy, full human rights sport and stability in the world, you f**k**g, stupid, filthy, disguisting, evil piece of s**t Stalinist/Maoist jihadist monkey. Either love America (the world’s greatest democracy) or leave it.

          • Omar

            So-called “Palestinian” Arabs are from Arabia, not the Holy Land. Jews of all races are from the Holy Land. Palestine is not even an Arabic name. Palestine is a Latin name meaning Philistines, who were Greek sailors who had red hair (the Philistines were not Arabs) the Romans renamed the Holy Land “Palestine” when they conquered the region in 66 A.D. Palestine is a geographical region, not a country, nor ethnicity.
            How date Syrian and Lebanese settlers attempted to displace European Christians in the Iberian peninsula during the Middle Ages.

          • defcon 4

            Paleswine are arabs, just like most of the rest of the cesspool called the Mid-East and N. Africa.

          • defcon 4

            Imagine living in a country ruled by scuzzlums like Khancer.

          • john spielman

            and your genetic evidence is published in which peer reviewed journal?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians,Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.

            ^ Gibbons, Ann (October 30, 2000). “Jews and Arabs Share Recent Ancestry”. ScienceNOW. American Academy for the Advancement of Science.. Studies cited are: M. F. Hammer et al. (2000). “Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes”. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America 97 (12): 6769–6774.

            Different studies combined confirm that a) Most Palestinians are descendants of Jews converts to Islam, b) predominant majority is from Levant region whether descendant of Jews or not, and any movement of people happened in prehistory and c) small contingent show recent contribution from Arabian peninsula.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You just proved that Jews are from Israel.

          • defcon 4

            LOL, he won’t ever admit to that fact.

          • Omar

            Mondoweiss is a far-left, self-hating Jewish website that cozies up to radical Islamist jihadist monkeys like yourself. It would be like if an Armenian created a website apologizing to the Turkish jihadists for “making” them commit genocide during World War I. Propaganda websites are not credible, you turd-eating ignoramus.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Or a Black person shilling for the kkk.

            Nobody respects an Uncle Tom or an Uncle Weiss.

          • Omar

            What about the Islamist occupation of the Iberian peninsula (Spain and Portugal) during much of the Middle Ages? The Islamist jihadists living in the Iberian peninsula thought that they were superior to European Christians because of their skin color and because of religion. You believe in the evil melanin theory, which claims that people with darker skin are superior to everyone else. We do not tolerate racism nor bigotry at all, so quit trolling you disgusting foolish pig. Learn from facts indicated of repeating anti-Western propaganda.

          • john spielman

            I would come back with the force of the law and retake it and have those evil doers arrested!
            Now as for Israel, it was granted state hood by the UN in 1948, and it has defended itself many times against muslim invaders! so no moral equivalence

          • Taimoor Khan

            The UN did not give it control over West Bank and Gaza. International Court of Justice condemned Israeli Wall and called it a war crime.

            So my analogy is correct. Israel is behaving like a powerful criminal, or more accurately, a criminal with a powerful backing – US.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            In 1948, one year after pakiland was carved out of India, Israel declared itself. FIVE Arab armies attacked Israel.

            But Israel won. Israel defeated FIVE Arab armies.

            The Arab thief was defeated.

          • defcon 4

            If islam is so fun loving and tolerant, why aren’t you squatting back in Karachi or Islamabad?

          • Omar

            Oh really. The evil Islamist jihadist monkeys of so-called “Palestine” have been oppressing Jews and Israelis for a long time and they have been doing this with the full approval and powerful backing of two criminal superpowers: neo-Communist Russia and Communist China, plus a third criminal regime, the evil Islamic Republic of Iran, which is the Fourth Reich. Neo-Communist Russia also supports Communist China’s military occupation of Tibetans and the ongoing genocide of the Tibetan people. Neo-Communist Russia has also been oppressing the Republic of Georgia and the Georgian people as well as denying Georgia’s right to it’s provinces Abkhazia and South Ossetia. You support those crimes, along with other Communist/Islamist crimes, because you are a f**k**g anti-American, pro-totalitarian Stalinist/Maoist monkey who supports Islamist Sharia law. Learn from facts instead of repeating Communist/Islamist lies and propaganda, you evil f**k**g lowlife.

          • defcon 4

            LOL, kinda like islam0nazis such as yourself have been doing throughout the world for the past 13 centuries eh?

          • autdrew

            Perfect man mo had no problem taking & keeping what he & his men stole from others. Was he wrong?

          • defcon 4

            The Israelis spanked your fellow islam0nazis on at least three occasions. Care to make it four? Hopefully the fourth will end up in the elimination of your death cult from the entirety of the Mid-East and N. Africa.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Ignorant Khancer, Jews were in Israel BEFORE your imperialist terrorist prophet of Satan called “Muhammed” came on the scene in the 7th century.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          “palestinians” are indigenous to H E L L and their prophet of Satan called muhammed.

        • Drakken

          That is what I like about those Russians, they know how to eliminate you savages by whatever means necessary.

        • defcon 4

          Paleswine are Arabs, they already have a homeland called Saudi Arabia.

    • Habbgun

      Listen how do you justify your biggest allies are the atheistic left?

      How proud are you of the fact that your biggest supporters either like Islam or some weird Wiccan paganism? Is that what your religion is? Actually that is exactly what your religion is!

      Silly man. The Torah and Talmud only seem harsh in certain places
      because they must deal with the world as it is and not what it can be,
      should be and ultimately will be. The vast majority of it is more
      positive than anything to be found today. Is Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
      men who lived for violence? Hardly. Neither was Moses. It was Pharaoh
      who had the army and the chariots. It was Pharaoh that was the enslaver
      and the enslavers died but only after they had seen the falseness of
      Pharaoh but refused to take heed.A monotheistic religion that can openly
      preach that vengeance is man’s and man can create new crimes (like
      imperialism which Islamicists took from Communists of all things). is not a monotheistic religion at all. It is power worship and nothing more.

      • Taimoor Khan

        You are sooooo stupid and naive. It is always utra left in all countries who stand with minorities – Muslims being minority in West. in fact, Jews have a big contribution to leftism in the West since they were/are the minority, but now the Zionists Jews want to prey on Muslims.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          The way your fellow jihadi savages are murdering people ALL OVER THE WORLD, the day is coming where you will be cursing your prophet of Satan called Muhammed like an Infidel.

        • Drakken

          I like how those plucky Buddhist in Burma are not having any of your Islamic nonsense. Coming soon to a western city near you.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Christians live in Muslim countries too… Racists like you are a cancer on both sides.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Khancer, I hope Infidel leave savage Muslim entities so they won’t be hurt in the battle to destroy savage islamofascism.

          • Drakken

            Really now? And just what exactly is happening to those Christians we speak haji? Oh yeah, let me help you out with that, the Christians are being slaughtered by you muslims everywhere islam is present.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islamofascists are killing Christians in Egypt, Nigeria AND Pakiland.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nope. Even Jews thrive in Iran as I write.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            DEATH to the Islamofascist Regime of iran!

            Hang the ayatollahs of Satan.

            LONG LIVE PERSIA!

          • Drakken

            Really ! Now who are we infidels to believe? You? Or our lying infidel eyes?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Me.

          • Drakken

            You and truth in the same sentence is an oxymoron. Typical muzzy, complete denial of reality to suit their Islamic agenda.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Sorry Khancer,

            Your taqiyya doesn’t work here.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Christians are being murdered in Muslim countries.

            See Copts of Egypt, Christians of Nigeria and Pakiland.

        • Habbgun

          You dodged the question because you know you and your religion are guilty. Not only are your hands red with blood but they are red with Communism. Ultra left doesn’t just back minorities. They back the minorities that they know will bend over for them. They back you because they believe you are homosexuals, pedophiles just like themselves. Yes Jews have been leftist but the left has never been pro-Judaism but they are pro-Islam. They hate Judaism but they love you and you love them. We are not naïve and stooooopid……….we know what they are and what you are. Now fetch a bucket for an Occupier to crap in and wed your male Communist cousin.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            neo-commies LUV islamofascists because they see each other as “useful idiots”.

            Problem, Muslim have attacked KGB Putins Russia in Volgograd.

            I see a Nabka coming – the Red Army is ruthless..

          • Taimoor Khan

            Don’t you know that Volgograd is the RESULT of MANY “Nabkas”?

            Russian army committed atrocities against Chechens.

            See? You have it upside down.

          • Drakken

            And your about to get a really nice taste of what the Russians are about to unleash upon your fellow savages. Now your going to be crying about how mean those Russians are to you.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Just wait until KGB Putin gets started on your fellow savages.

            It will be a point of pride for KGB Putin to defeat your savage pals attacking Russia – like Socialist Stalin ruthlessly crushed Socialist SHlTler.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            chechen pigs will be defeated.

          • defcon 4

            I couldn’t care less if the Russian army committed atrocities against your scuzzlum brethren. May they commit many more.

          • Habbgun

            I used to think that they were just using each other but the alliance is at the personal level and not just the political. They are compatible from top to bottom. Islam can’t really be a religion if it is that compatible with Socialism and Socialists. Let’s face it. You are safer from a terrorist attack among leftists than among moslems. They kill each other but to attack a commie is sacrosanct.
            They give Allah lip service but they give a tongue bath to Marx.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          ultra leftoids?

          Who is using whom?

          Islamofascists using useful idiot Socialists?
          Socialists using useful idiot Islamofascists?

          • Taimoor Khan

            I don’t know, but we both hate Jueo-Naz!s and racists.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Infidels hate Islamo-Nazis and racist socialists.

            Who do you think will win?

            6 BILLION INFIDELS or 1.5 billion islamofascist savages?

          • defcon 4

            Islam needs a nuclear enlightenment.

        • Habbgun

          Nah…we are not stupid and naïve. We know that Jews were Leftists we also know that the Left always has hated Judaism the religion itself but it just loves it some Islam and Islam just loves communists. The Left doesn’t always champion minorities. It only champions those minorities they think will be subservient to it and they have you guys targeted. They don’t believe you really believe in Allah and they aren’t stupid. Your allies have got you pegged.

        • iluvisrael

          admit what’s really pissing you off – muslims all over the world don’t give a rat’s as$ about the invented ‘palistinians’ – it’s been proven many times, like when kuwait expelled them years ago. No one gives a crap about the pails having a state – it just burns you Jew haters up that the Jews have their own sovereign and well armed state.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Don’t insult your forefathers – the Palestinians!

            “[Ben Giron] stated on several occasions that the peasants of Palestine were the descendants of the inhabitants of ancient Judea.”
            “http://mondoweiss.net/2008/09/israeli-historian-palestinians-are-biological-descendants-of-bibles-jews.html

            Genetic studies confirm that Palestinians are indigenous to the land, much more than European Khazari Jews.

          • iluvisrael

            did you even pass elementary school, or have you just had dishonest, propaganda shoved down your throat your whole rotten life?. maybe it’s your inbreeding that renders you slow or simple. Judaism predates islam by centuries, and Jews have had a very long and consistent connection to Eretz Israel. Israel is here to stay.

          • Taimoor Khan

            In antiquity, Jews were thrown out of Palestine, and those that remained mostly converted to Islam. So Palestinians are very much indigenous, MUCH more than those Jews who settled in Europe and HEAVILY INTERMIXED with Europeans. Genetic studies show that Palestinians are much more indigenous to what is Palestine-Israel than any group of Jews. Take that!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Like Hindus who were forced at the sword to convert to islam?

            How does Islam regard apostates, people who leave Islam for other religions? Are they free to do so, or threatened of they do leave Islam????

          • iluvisrael

            Once again – I know you’re slow – Israel is here to stay! and a happy eternal nakba to you and yours!

          • defcon 4

            Even if Israel wasn’t a Jewish state, I would still support it over the rest of the islam0nazi sewers that constitute the rest of the Mid-East and N. Africa.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Don’t insult your forefathers – the Hindus!

            Infidels know that islamofascists have a history of forcing people to convert.

            Is it OK to force Muslims to convert to Infidel religions?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Qur’an says “To be your way, to me mine”. Forced conversion is wrong; if anybody did it, he was wrong. Both Muslims and Christians and Jews and Hindus did that at some points in history.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Today Islam is the Religion of Terrorism.

            Virtually every terrorist attack is committed by a and old school or recent covert to islam – the laughably self described “religion of peace”.

          • defcon 4

            Jews forced people to convert to Judaism? Really? Do you have any proof of that statement?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Let’s go and apply genetic tests to the world and we’ll see who belongs where.

            That’s your idea? How liberal of you. Not only that but these reports deliberately misrepresent the objective facts. They limit the scope to tell a partisan story.

        • defcon 4

          If the “Zionists Jews” did “want to prey on” scuzzlums the paleswine would be dead and gone, along w/their child molesting prophet.

        • Omar

          You seem to be very retarded. It is the center-right that stands up for minorities all over the world, you disguisting piece of s**t ignoramus. The far-left exploits minorities in order to get total control of everything in the individual countries so that the far-left can oppress everyone. When you made that stupid comment, you just admitted that you are a filthy Communist totalitarian who doesn’t care about anyone but yourself, you lowlife. Jihadist Muslim monkeys want to prey on Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, women, ethnic minorities (particularly blacks and whites), homosexuals and what every jihadist monkey perceives to view as the wrong kind of Muslim. Fact-check.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “You are sooooo stupid and naive. It is always utra left in all countries who stand with minorities – Muslims being minority in West.”

          Ding-dong, you do realize what happens after the glorious socialist revolution, don’t you? You really think they actually believe in “equality?” The way they make you “equal” after the revolution is killing those that don’t pass muster. Equal among the living. Equal among the new classes; working monkeys and the elite class. And of course he elites will continue to be stabbing each other in the back.

          LOL! What a dupe you are.

    • iluvisrael

      listen up acccchhhhhhmed, we’re talking about what’s going on TODAY – not the middle ages (where islam is still stuck). It’s your bloodthirsty, savage cult that is the problem across the globe.

      • Taimoor Khan

        What is going on today? Yeah, millions of Iraqis and Afghanis killed as of TODAY as I write; Palestinians getting oppressed and their land and resources stolen from them TODAY as I write this.

        Got it?

        • Habbgun

          Nope. The land goes to who Hashem wants it to go to. He doesn’t want it to go to the favorite religion of Communists and prison gangs. We know you by your friends.

          Got it?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Screw “Hashem”! Land goes to its locals – Palestinians, and they will get it eventually. Israel is a temporary entity – mark my words.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Screw Paki land,

            Imperialist Islam will go DOWN, WILL BE DEFEATED by INFIDELS.

            Plus the Khancer called “the islamofascist regime of iran” will be wiped off the pages of history.

            Better make your “hajj”, haji, before it’s too late.

          • Drakken

            I’ll give you ragheads credit, you really do live in a delusional wishful thinking world. I can’t wait until Israel tires of dealing with your fellow savages and gives you what you so richly deserve, Carthage on steroids.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Make your final “hajj” paki pig.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Take your final poo.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Take your final poo in mecca on the kabbah.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Why not your mouth? Poo comes out of it, how about the other way round for once?

          • Drakken

            Tell your boyfriend that, we are not interested in your gay lifestyle.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “muhammeds” (Poo Be Upon Him) mouth

          • defcon 4

            Healthy camel urine, have you had your mug today? Prophet recommended, prophet approved.

        • Drakken

          Your lucky that I am not in charge of the pali problem, for there wouldn’t be a problem any longer. The palis and their other arab allies lost land in the wars they started, to the victors go the spoils haji, get used to it. Hope those Indians take Kashmir from you effing muslim savages.

          • Taimoor Khan

            And you should be glad that I don’t control the world, as I won’t tolerate any racist like you!

          • Drakken

            Silly inbred muzzy, the race card has been used and abused to the point it has no meaning anymore, so shove it where the sun don’t shine raghead.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Racists? islam hates EVERYBODY. Even fellow Muslims.

          • defcon 4

            Islam isn’t a race muslo-nazi.

          • Omar

            You are the real f**k**g racist and bigot, you disgusting evil monkey-f**k.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Whew! Dodged a bullet there…

            Look out for swords at night or knives aimed at your back if you live near this guy.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            LONG LIVE INDIA!

            DOWN with the “islamofascist regime of pakistan”!

            FREE PAKISTAN from Islamofascsim!

          • defcon 4

            Don’t forget Bangladesh — the other islamic hellhole in the Indian sub-continent.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          If your “pal-e-SWINIANS” would stop killing innocents, there would be no need to “oppress” (prevent them from killing innocent INFIDELS) them.

        • Omar

          Iraqis are being oppressed by Al-Qaeda affiliated militants and by Iranian Islamist-backed militants. The American war in the last decade saved Iraq from the Baathist dictatorship of your beloved Saddam Hussein. In Afghanistan, the civilians were being oppressed in two different periods, first by the Soviet-backed Communist militants and dictatorship and then by the evil Taliban. In both circumstances, Afghanistan was saved by the West, under the leadership of the United States of America. You are upset that the Communist lost the Cold War and that Al-Qaeda and other Islamist militant groups were weakened because of Western determination to bring justice to the world. Guess what? Nobody cares what you think, you annoying Communist/Islamist jihadist lowlife

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “What is going on today? Yeah, millions of Iraqis and Afghanis killed as of TODAY as I write; Palestinians getting oppressed and their land and resources stolen from them TODAY as I write this.”

          See, you’ve reversed everything because you’re a liar or a dupe. America tries to be friends with everyone. Jihadis lie in pursuit of global sharia. They must have a coherent international government to please their god. Communists fight America because they must have a coherent international government for their economic theories to work. America stands in their way. They attack us. They also all believe that lies are legitimate if the end goal is “righteous.”

          Global communism and global sharia are seen as “righteous causes” that demand fighting totalitarian wars (when possible). No tactics are off limits. When weak, spread lies. When strong, attack.

          You’re a dupe or an unhinged true believer. But as I alluded to before, most true believers are also dupes because both ideologies have fatal flaws that rational people should be able to discover.

          • defcon 4

            WRT your last sentence that is exactly why criticism of islam or its holey prophet is outlawed in all islamic states.

    • Omar

      You are the pathetic Communist/Islamofascist loon, you good-for-nothing Stalinist/Maoist fool. Why don’t you denounce Saddam Hussein’s Iraq for invading and attempting to occupy Kuwait over two decades ago? Why don’t you condemn Saddam for attempting to commit genocide against the Kurds of Iraq with chemical weapons in 1988? Your beloved neo-Communist Russia, Communist China, Islamist Iran and their proxy allies are larger terrorists than the Kach Party, the Westboro Baptist Church and even Spain under Franco. You are really an annoying Stalinist/Maoist who supports Islamist Sharia Law. You probably wish that King George III’s Britain had won the American Revolution back in the 18th century. Respect the United States of America (the world’s greatest democracy) and it’s democratic allies, you annoying garbage talking, lunatic trolling, bigoted low-life.

      • Taimoor Khan

        ” Why don’t you denounce Saddam Hussein’s Iraq for invading and attempting to occupy Kuwait over two decades ago?”

        I do! Why don’t YOU have the mantle to also tell the world that when Saddam Hussain was gasing Kurds and invading neighborhood lands, he was a henchmen of American administration! Even before Kuwait invasion, Saddam got green signal from America initially.

        As I said, America is the biggest international terrorist on world stage. China may have committed brutalities against their own people and civil wars, but they are not an imperialist douchbag as America.

        BTW, I totally respect American internal qualities like freedom of speech and right to privacy – increasingly under threat from criminal administrations. However, what America does AT THE WORLD stage is extremely CRIMINAL and UNJUST – no different from any cruel imperial power.

        • Omar

          Yeah right. You don’t respect America at all, you Stalinist/Maoist/Islamist lowlife. Was one of the first countries to condemn Saddam’s Iraq’s aggression against Kuwait and even led an international coalition to kick your beloved Baathist fascists out of Kuwait. Saddam was supported by your beloved Soviet Union and Communist China. I bet you supported the Soviet Union in its takeover of Eastern Europe after World War II. I bet you also support Communist China’s invasion and genocidal occupation of the ancient country of Tibet. America is not an imperialist power, but your beloved neo-Communist Russis, Communist China and Islamist Iran are. Why don’t you criticize neo-Communist Russia for invading the Republic of Georgia and forcing the secession of Abkhazia and South Ossetia in 2008? Why don’t you condemn neo-Communist Russia for supporting the homicidal Assad family dictatorship in Baathist Syria? Why do you always support neo-Communist Russia’s foreign and domestic policies, you annoying animalistic lowlife?

          • Taimoor Khan

            No need to go into unrelated issues. Russia’s atrocities are not related to the topic at hand. Here on this site we have Americo-Zionist Naz!s pretending to be righteous. So they need to be shown the MIRROR.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The Red Socialist / Green Islamofascist alliance will be defeated. It’s just a matter of time.

            No savagery by Islamfascists is beneath them.

            - plane hijacking
            - poison gassing
            - beheading
            - throat cutting
            - stoning girls to death over “family honor”
            - shooting
            - bombing passenger planes
            - stabbing

            Khancer, You are a savage.

          • Omar

            Shut up, you filthy and disgusting turd-eating, camel urine-drinking, Islamist jihadist monkey f**k. The United States of America is the greatest country in the world with the greatest representative democracy and constitutitional republic in history. You will learn to love this country and all of its values and democracy policies , both domestic and foreign. We will make you admire great American figures and to oppose all of America’s totalitarian enemies. Love America unconditionally.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Omar AKBAR!

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “No need to go into unrelated issues. Russia’s atrocities are not related to the topic at hand.”

            Dummy, at least half the events you mention were the result of fighting proxy wars against the Russian Soviet Union.

            Get it?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Gassing? Poison Gassing?
          Halabja Iraq – 5,000 deadl
          Syria – 1,000+ dead.

          BTW, poison gas is a WMD.

          8 year Iraq/Iran War – 1,000,000 dead.
          Sunni / Shiite killing sprees? It’s the nature of imperialist Islamofascism.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “I do! Why don’t YOU have the mantle to also tell the world that when Saddam Hussain was gasing Kurds and invading neighborhood lands, he was a henchmen of American administration!”

          Idiot, showing favor to the lessor of 2 evils does not make him our creation. And you probably would not know even a fraction of what you do if not for the open press in the West.

          • defcon 4

            The “open press” in the West is becoming increasingly less so, as the deliberate censorship of anything critical of islam attests.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            True, but it’s an even greater conduit for criticism of anything we do, not to mention embellished stories attacking us. That goes on unimpeded.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “BTW, I totally respect American internal qualities like freedom of speech and right to privacy – increasingly under threat from criminal administrations. However, what America does AT THE WORLD stage is extremely CRIMINAL and UNJUST – no different from any cruel imperial power.”

          Of course you believe that because you whitewash America’s enemies. Therefore we’re the villains. We get it. You’re just wrong in some fatal ways. Your understanding of history is radically partisan; tilted towards evil.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Not all Muslims are Terrorists, but most Terrorists ARE MUSLIMS.

      Islam is the religion of Terrorists.

      Recently Volgograd was attacks by savage Islamofascist terrorists.

      We can rely on Hindu India to punish the Islamofascist Regime of paki land.
      ;

      • Taimoor Khan

        Hindu India is serving you right on female diplomat row, isn’t it?

        I applaud India for standing up to American arrogance.

        Divide and rule is over now. Zionist snakes in American upper power echelons want to stir religious hatred between third world countries so that they can continue to sell their arms as well as dominate the world.

        All should stand united against American imperialism. Israel’s obscenities are simply the result of American support.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Taimoron Khancer,

          I look forward to the day when Hindu India punishes the “Islamic Regime of Pakistan”.

          pakistan WAS the safe haven for arch terrorist osama bin laden – until BHO sent the US Navy Seals to bring your fellow islamofascist to justice.

        • Omar

          I applaud anyone who stands up to Russian, Chinese and Iranian imperialism, you stupid Stalinist/Maoist/Islamist consider monkey lowlife! Even Franco’s Spain was a better place to live than your beloved Putin’s Russia, you turd-eating loser. Learn from fact, instead of repeating Communist/Islamist lies and propaganda, you ignoramus.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Khancer,

          You’re blaming “Zionists” for the hatred between sunni and shiite?

          Islam has enough murderous divisions within it without trying to blame islamofascism on Jews.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          If history could be rewritten without Islam, India and the West would be very close allies and it’s likely most of the world would be at peace other than leftist crypto-communist uprisings.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Taimoron Khancer,

      Go make a one-way Hajj to H E L L.

    • autdrew

      Slavery? You seriously went there? The Christian west outlawed slavery when? Islamic countries gave up slavery wh, oh wait, they still haven’t. Why? Because perfect man mo had lots of slaves and everything he did is worthy of emulating. Don’t pretend that slavery is exclusively a problem the west created. Btw, who ran the slave trade? Who went on regular razzias to capture slaves? They especially loved those Slavic white women & making eunuchs of captured black males to guard them.

  • Taimoor Khan

    Ezekiel 9:6 “Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . ”

    Isaiah 13:16 “Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.”

    Deuteronomy 13:15 “Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly . . . ”

    Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . ”

    Exodus 32:27 “. . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.”

    Deut 21:10-12 “When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; ”

    Exodus 31:15 ” . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.”

    Deut 21:21 “And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die . . .

    • Raymond_in_DC

      Talk about theological over-reach! Most of those Biblical calls to violence were limited to the context and the time. Islam’s call to “slay” are deemed still binding and in no way limited in geography.

      Moreover, the prescribed Biblical punishments are nowhere enforced as they’ve been effectively legislated or reinterpreted into irrelevance. It’s no defense to say the Torah prescribes stoning too when Jews haven’t stoned for thousands of years while Muslims are stoning *today*!

      Finally, even those Biblical punishments were less cruel than Islamic punishments that came into force 1800 years later, when Muslims allegedly reached “enlightenment”. There is no beheading, and no bodily dismemberment for simple theft, for example. Even the “eye for an eye” text is interpreted to mean monetary compensation.

      • Taimoor Khan

        Quranic verses are also in context.

        Islamic punishments are internal matters of Muslim countries, but they are not enforced in 95% countries too!

        See? Everybody has contexts and explanations. See the big picture.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          What is in the unholy quran is PRACTICED by devout followers of the book TODAY.

          Koranic murder of innocents is taught, encouraged an practiced.

          The Big Picture is that Muslims are responsible for most Terrorists attacks today.

          No one is safe from Koranic savagery. Neither Infidel OR Muslim.

        • defcon 4

          Bukhari:V4B52N177
          “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘You Muslims will fight the Jews till some of them hide behind stones. The stones will betray them saying, “O Abdullah (slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”‘”

          Ishaq:441
          “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”‘”

          In Sahih Muslim: Book 041, Number 6985:
          Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

          Now what “context” would redeem these “authentic” hadith islam0nazi?

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “See? Everybody has contexts and explanations. See the big picture.”

          Of course. We don’t have to lie about it either. Why do you?

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “See? Everybody has contexts and explanations. See the big picture.”

          The problem is that when pious believers are in charge, they can use the old “emulate the prophet” justification to enforce sharia at will any time the more modern sovereign is not able to sustain total sovereignty. See “no go (sharia) zones” in many Western and Islamic nations. Heck, even the king of Jordan has a hard time keeping the pious jihadis from enforcing sharia, and he’s probably the most legitimate modern leader around in the Western and Islamic worlds.

          When Christians are able to wrestle sovereignty, they turn to constitutional republics that honor “human rights” that (until leftist lunatics hijacked the terms) set the standards for the world outside of Islam.

          The values that you’re appealing to come mostly from the Bible.

          • Taimoor Khan

            This is your interpretation. For millions of Muslims, they take the inspiration of life from Islam and live completely normal, healthy and responsible lives.

            Same is true even for millions of Hindus and Chinese and others.

            You are a culturally arrogant person – you need to come down to earth.

            The western drive toward egalitarianism came IN SPITE of Christianity and this is a fact.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “This is your interpretation. For millions of Muslims, they take the inspiration of life from Islam and live completely normal, healthy and responsible lives.”

            Yeah, that’s all true. But there are lots of lies told that seem to imply that there are no conflicts between pious believers and non-Muslims. Those lies are not acceptable to people that understand the danger.

            Any pious Muslim can use the Islamic texts and traditions to rally any other pious Muslims around the idea of global jihad. If Muslims reject the call for global sharia, they do it in spite of Islam, not because Islam led them to live according to the values that the West made dominant in the entire non-Muslim world. In fact, the Muslims that reject jihad are either fearful or they are influenced by Western values. Since deception is a big part of Islam, some pious believers actually turn to the Bible and come up with their own peaceful versions of Islam. However, they only do that by rejecting the true history of Islam and its prophet.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “You are a culturally arrogant person – you need to come down to earth.”

            If I don’t accept my culture as the best, I reject it and adopt what I find to be the best. If you don’t agree, I don’t mind. Just don’t try to destroy my culture. Lost of people can’t live by simple ideals.

            We both live on Earth, but you see it through a different set of lenses.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “The western drive toward egalitarianism came IN SPITE of Christianity and this is a fact.”

            All good things flow from Islam I’m sure.

            I spend a lot of time talking with people that don’t even understand the word fact. So much for organic progress.

            fact noun ˈfakt

            : something that truly exists or happens : something that has actual existence

            : a true piece of information

            Full Definition of FACT

            1

            : a thing done: asa obsolete : featb : crime c archaic : action

            2

            archaic : performance, doing

            3

            : the quality of being actual : actuality

            4

            a : something that has actual existence b : an actual occurrence

            5

            : a piece of information presented as having objective reality

            — in fact

            : in truth

            See fact defined for English-language learners »

            See fact defined for kids »

            Examples of FACT

            Rapid electronic communication is now a fact.

            The book is filled with interesting facts and figures.

            He did it, and that’s a fact.

            Origin of FACT

            Latin factum, from neuter of factus, past participle offacere

            First Known Use: 15th century

            Related to FACT

            Synonymsactuality, factuality, materiality, reality

            Antonymsirreality, unreality

            Related Wordsauthenticity, genuineness, truth, verity

            Near Antonymsfancy, fantasy (also phantasy), fiction, fictitiousness;dreaminess, surreality

          • Omar

            “For millions of Muslims, they take the inspiration of life from Islam and live completely normal, healthy and responsible lives”
            Yeah, right. That is why Islamist fanatics drink camel urine frequently and commit “honor killings” everytime a woman in Islam “dishonors” her family. Despite the presence of radical Islam in the Middle East, some countries, like Egypt, managed to stay somewhat secular when the Islamists go too far with their extremist agendas.

          • defcon 4

            The najjis kaffir are universally persecuted in all muslime states, which doesn’t say much for “moderate” islam.

    • john spielman

      I will try to explain why there is NO call for violence by followers of Christ Jesus in the New Testament of the Bible as you only quoted from the OLD Testament. 1) the old testament Mosaic law WAS harsh because GOD was present in the Tent of Meeting among HIS people. The Glory of GOD was present among the Hebrew people, and because GOD is absolutely Holy and cannot tolerate sin in His presence, all sin and sinners were destroyed. Every time a peoson was covicted of breaking GOD’S law, Moses wold appeal to GOD to confirm or comute the sentnace. Such is not the case after the Glory of GOD departed the Temple.
      2)The Old testament law was fulfilled in Christ Jesus so now as we live in a time of grace where GOD is giving people like you and me a chance at repentance and to come to Faith in Him( Jesus).
      3)Since GOD is absolutley righteous and just, He cannot simply “forgive” sin without becoming a corrupt judge. There must be a mechanism to forgive sin so He can be both just and merciful. In the old testament it was temporarily satisfied by the blood of an innocent animal but ultimately fulfilled by the blood of His SON Christ Jesus.
      4)the old testament harsh sentances WILL be seen again when Jesus returns and destroys all evil with a “rod of iron” see Revalations 19-20 and Luke 19

    • defcon 4

      The all too typical argument of false equivalence being used to defend islam0fascism, er, islam. Of course, none of us have ever come across this particular fallacy of argumentation being used to defend islam before Ahmed. FAIL.

    • defcon 4

      The all too typical argument of false equivalence being used to defend islam0fascism, er, islam. Of course, none of us have ever come across this particular fallacy of argumentation being used to defend islam before Ahmed. FAIL.

    • Infidel4Ever

      Another reality challenged purveyor of moral equivalency. The fact it is not Jews or Christians but Muslims who rape, slaughter, subjugate, enslave, oppress, terrorize and destroy these days does enter your la-la land.

    • crossbow87

      Just think of it this way Tammy the Moor, Jesus Christ was and is the superior to your prophet in all ways. That clarifies which religion teaches what and what behavior is expected from each.

    • iluvisrael

      Your taqiya will not work here – most of us on this site are islamosavvy, and know your ‘religion’ inside and out. get lost!

      • Taimoor Khan

        And I am Occidentalist. I am pretty savvy.in Western history.

        Hey, Jews have nothing to do with western history besides being victims of atrocities. My issue is with Israel and its atrocities – and American imperialism, of whom Israel is but a small child.

        Western civilization is not “Judeo-Christian”, but “Islamo-Christian” given the Islamic influence of Middle Ages which led to Renaissance. .

        • Omar

          There is no American “imperialism”, but there is Russian imperialism, Chinese imperialism, Cuban imperialism, Iranian imperialism, [North] Sudanese iperialism, Communist imperialism and Islamist imperialism, you filthy, disgusting , evil lunatic turd-eating, camel urine-drinking, savage animalistic lowlife. America is the best country, while your beloved evil neo-Communist Russia, Communist China and Islamist Iran are imperialist, despotic regimes that behave worse than most of the fascist regimes that ruled Europe prior to World War II. Either support America or go live in a Communist or Islamist dictatorship you turd-eating lowlife.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            And ISLAMOFASCIST IMPERIALISM.

            I wait for the day, soon I hope, when 6 BILLION INFIDELS punish 1.5 billion islamofascist savages, and drive them back to the desert and their islamofascist hellholes.

            Infidels have the Right to Resist Islamofascism.

        • crossbow87

          And the facts disagree with you Tammy the Moor.

        • Drakken

          Western civilization has zero to do with islam and we have brought everything you enjoy today in spite of islam and its dark age philosophy’s. If it wasn’t for us westerners, you effing muslim savages would still be in the bloody dark ages.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nonsense. When you didn’t know how to bath, Muslims were debating about universal issues and inventing stuff! Read on Islam’s Golden Age.

          • Drakken

            How do we know about baths? From the Romans and Greeks you effing dumbazz. There was no Islamic golden age, it was you inbred savages living on the backs of the infidels.

          • Pleiades

            In all fairness, the middle east had advanced building, mathematics and medicine, fabric and jewelry arts still seen in museums today… when a lot of northern Europe were burying their dead in bogs… but, that was long before islam and, as they say in hollywood… what have you done lately?
            And when did bathing go out of style?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            In all fairness, successful pillaging eventually pays off and the wealthy sovereign can invest in stuff.

            Awesome.

          • Nanook8

            All stolen from other cultures.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Key word; had. Contrast with “design” or “develop.”

          • Thomas L. Stafford

            Most of what was preserved in what is now the Middle East survived from the Greeks and Romans. The Middle East was spared from the effects of what is known as the little ice age and an eruption of a group of volcanos on
            Iceland. These events exacerbated the effect of the plague which all combined to plunge Europe into the dark ages. That followed the fall of the western Roman Empire. It may be that these much lower temperatures and shorter growing seasons had a lot to do with the fall of the Roman Empire.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Romans and Greeks called you barbarians and stinky animals. You didn’t know anything about Greeks until Arabs advanced that knowledge and it returned to Europe through Muslims.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “You didn’t know anything about Greeks until Arabs advanced that knowledge and it returned to Europe through Muslims.”

            Ohhh, really? You mean that a few books pillaged from the Greeks were later brought to Europe? Yeah, they had other sources, dummy.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            There are Roman baths still seen today that of course existed long before Mo mixed his paganism with the Bible.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_public_baths

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The so called “Arabic Number System” was invented by HINDUS.

          • Taimoor Khan

            And advanced by Muslims, reached Europe through Muslims, otherwise Europeans were using Roman numerals.. Algebra was invented by Muslims.

          • defcon 4

            “Algebra was invented by muslimes”. Really? I seem to remember the Pythagorean theorem using algebra long before muhammad even molested his first little girl.

          • john spielman

            almost every discover made in muslim lands during the “golden age ” of Islam was made by Jews living there.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            And Hindus, Chinese…

          • Taimoor Khan

            Which shows great Muslim tolerant traditions.

          • defcon 4

            You’re either very stupid, or very arrogant or some combination of both to think that lie will fly here.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Wrong. Complete nonsense. Who told you that?

            First of all, if there were notable Jews in Muslim empire, ti shows the great tolerance of Muslims! So haters are caught here and now!

            Secondly, there were many Muslims scientists and thinkers in Muslim empire. In fact, most were Muslims. But of course, there were also Christian and Jewish intellectuals given Muslim culture of tolerance and enlightenment.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “First of all, if there were notable Jews in Muslim empire, ti shows the great tolerance of Muslims! So haters are caught here and now!”

            If cows are discovered on “Muslim” farms it shows great tolerance for animals too. And don’t forget the women!

            “Secondly, there were many Muslims scientists and thinkers in Muslim empire. In fact, most were Muslims.

            A few exceptions.

            “But of course, there were also Christian and Jewish intellectuals given Muslim culture of tolerance and enlightenment.”

            Islamic tolerance: Make yourself useful and you’ll be tolerated. Like cows on a farm.

          • Taimoor Khan

            You are funny, but not logical and you know it.

            So a person who gets access to education and access to higher echelons of power, can be compared to the status of a cattle.

            Oh, great!

          • Omar

            You’re not funny. You’re just an annoying troll who likes to post anti-American/pro-Communist/Islamist lies and propaganda. Quit trolling.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            https://sites.google.com/site/islamicscripturesunveiled/Home/dhimmi

            Allah says in Q8:55 Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve. Essentially Allah divides mankind in two groups placing the non believers in a position lower than even the vilest of animals. Muslims consider the pig to be a despicable animal and their God places those who do not accept him even beneath such a creature. What equal opportunity could possibly afford a non-believer in an Islamic society?

            In Q25:44 we are told by Allah that, They are but as the cattle – nay, but they are farther astray? Non-Muslims are even more astray in life than cattle.

            But cattle are useful and allowed to be kept.

          • defcon 4

            No, not like “cows on a farm”, but rather like slaves on a plantation.

          • Omar

            Really? Islamofascist lowlifes were so tolerant of others? That’s why the Seljuk Turks attempted to conquer the Byzantine Empire, which led to the Crusades. Learn from real historical facts, instead of repeating Islamist revisionist propaganda, you lowlife troll.

          • Taimoor Khan

            When Jews were expelled from Spain, they found shelter in the Ottoman Empire.

            ‘Nuff said.

          • defcon 4

            Um, Maimonides fled Spain only after being offered the unique choice of: conversion to islam, death or exile. A unique choice because the choice most Jews and Christians were given by islam0nazis only consisted of two options.

          • Omar

            Yeah. After almost 800 years of Islamist barbaric rule in the Iberian peninsula. Many European Christians and Jews were oppressed under Islamist rule in the Iberian peninsula. The Ottoman Empire formed and expanded as a result of the conquest of lands that were part of the Byzantine Empire. The Ottoman Empire is also guilty of commiting genocide against the Armenian people during World War I. Some of the worst genocides in history were/are being commited by Islamofascist thugs. Please fact-check, you lowlife troll.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            When Africans were expelled from their native lands, they found shelter on plantations. ‘Nuff said.

          • defcon 4

            The “Golden Age” as mythical as Muhammad’s night flight to the Temple Mount (aka. the “furthest mosque”). Your lies might work on the dhimmi-witted najjis kaffir you’re used to associating with, just not here, not among informed, free men and women.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Even atheist proponent Richard Dawkins is in awe of Muslim achievements in Middle Ages, when Europeans were living literally in dung.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Yeah, um…no. Wrong. You need to learn about political correctness and paternalistic bigotry.

          • Taimoor Khan

            The same PC and “paternalistic bigotry” that Jews were subject to after treated roughly for some time? :D

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Yes. It comes from paganism. Roman and Arab paganism. Islam comes from Arab paganism fused with plagiarized (and highly modified) Bible narratives.

          • defcon 4

            Muslim “achievements in Middle Ages” would that include the slaughter and enslavement of tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists in the Indian sub-continent? Or the murder of thousands of Jews in Al Andalus?

          • Pedro Rabaçal

            Poor child, the ancient romans taught europeans how to bath, in a time when arabians smelled like camels.

            Which books did you read, taimoor? None? I though so.

          • defcon 4

            Yes I seem to remember large public baths being a central aspect of just about every Roman city, which may be why the city of Bath in the UK got its name.

          • Pedro Rabaçal

            Exactly, defcon, but muslims seem to ignore that before Middle Age there used to be romans and greeks, for they always say how advanced they were before us… :P

          • richardson

            Islam didn’t invent anything, It had the insight to recognize good ideas and take them.

          • cacslewisfan

            Instead of fearing the jahiliyya please look into it. You will find that the Middle East was once populated mostly by Christians, Jews, Zoarastrians, and pagans. Look at the amazing ruins all over the Middle East that far predate Islam. The Academy of Gudishapur in Iran, which is still the Model for modern teaching hospitals, existed long before Islam. The great library of Nalanda in India which was destroyed by Muslims. The Hagia Sophia was built by Christian Romans centuries before Islam. The Middle East was the seat of knowledge and civilization. The things that Muslims claim to be a product of Islam are there because of the civilizations that they conquered. Don’t take my word for it, look at the pictures of the ancient ruins yourself. Read the Qaran, the hadith, and the commentaries and judge for yourself. The Muslims were encountering Christians and Jews everywhere. Why? Because they were the dominant religions. What happened to them? They were conquered, their possessions taken, and they were made into dhimmis. The great irony is that there is an excellent chance that your ancestors were Christians or Jews who were terrorized by Muslims, and the only reason you are a Muslim is that they were forced to convert.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Have you read Star Wars? Exciting what our future holds for us, isn’t it?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Nothing to do with Jews or even Europeans specifically. Humanity achievements.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Nothing to do with Jews or even Europeans specifically. Humanity achievements.”

            You’re forgetting that none of the great achievements happen without a cultural context. Yes, the humans do it and humans are not fungible, but culture sets the stage to foster and or impede success of great humans.

            Europeans dominate because the culture fosters success more so than other cultures. Some Asian cultures foster success as well but are often weighed down more by destructive traditions.

            It’s just interesting to notice these trends. It’s even more interesting to notice cultures that seem to impede these kinds of successes.

          • defcon 4

            “Humanity achievements” well that certainly excludes islam…

          • dr.music

            The pedos at the local mosque told you this i suppose…

        • laura r

          are you a college kid?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Terrorist college.

        • Rodrigo

          “Given the Islamic influence of Middle Ages which led to Renaissance.”

          Maybe without Islam plundering cities from Antioch to Alexandria to Carthage to Spain to Rome to to France the European Renaissance would have happened earlier.

          I have seen cases for a Chinese Renaissance in the 9th century and an English one in the 11th. These 2 were stillborn, but they had the markings of much potential.

          The Renaissance isn’t so much a magical happening as an accretion of knowledge and capital that reaches critical mass because of trade, property rights and the rule of law that respects people.

          China should have a Renaissance in the 9th century but there was too much state control. People could work hard but the state would skim so much why bother.

          The Arab conquests of the 7th century closed down trade routes and so slowed development in Europe by cutting them off from China and elsewhere. Likewise there is not much trade when Muslims are pillaging North Africa, Asia Minor, Italy, Spain and France. You spend so much replacing what was stolen and fending off the barbarians there isn’t much time of scholarship and trade.

          If Islam was so great why was not the steam engine developed into usable form there? Or cannon, gunpowder etc. The Muslim world directed abutted China. The Ottomans had to use Eastern European cannon makers. Why?

          I would not be surprised if the West embraced Islam. But you would not like it. Putin and various captains of industries, and politicians would enjoy Islam and 4 wives. Just like the Visigoths passed laws forbidding their their nobility from marrying Roman nobility how far do you think billionaires would go to retain their wealth and power.

          Yes power will marry power and we’ll all be one big happy family and it will look like a dystopian future.

          Don’t worry they’ll throw you a few bones.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Rodrigo ES AKBAR!

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “Hey, Jews have nothing to do with western history besides being victims of atrocities. My issue is with Israel and its atrocities – and American imperialism, of whom Israel is but a small child.”

          Ah, selective outrage…reserved primarily for “the Jews.”

          That’s original.

          “Western civilization is not “Judeo-Christian”, but “Islamo-Christian” given the Islamic influence of Middle Ages which led to Renaissance.”

          I still laugh out line every time I hear that silly fallacious meme.

          Thanks for the chuckles.

          • defcon 4

            I’m sure allah smiles at such lies and approves.

        • Thomas L. Stafford

          So, the siege, raising, murder and enslavement of the populace of Constantinople, a cosmopolitan city full of artisans, craftsmen, and educational institutes culminating in 1400 was an act of enlightenment? No, it was not. Islam has brought nothing but war and suffering to the world.

        • defcon 4

          If you mean mendacious swinehunt by “Occidentalist” then I concur.

    • Omar

      Shut up, you annoying jihadist monkey. Accept the fact that your annoying religion has been waging war against the world for around 1400 years. Nobody supports your filthy propaganda, you lowlife troll.

      • laura r

        i wish that were true, but its not. MANY people support the “filthy propaganda” lets start w/the white house, the MSM, the universities, the prisons, the police. should i go on?

    • Sohail

      Wow, you shut them up. No replies on truth.

    • truebearing

      So now you’re quoting the source of Islamic plagiarism. Islam is a copycat religion, stealing from the Bible and perverting its message, with a dark and violent intent toward mankind. Why don’t you continue to read the Bible, in its entirety? You might learn something.

    • ZZ

      Thaimoron Khunt,

      Narrated Anas: “I saw the messenger of allah (pbuh) putting Hassan’s legs apart and kissing his little penis.” Al-Taberani 51/

      Hassan was his grandson. Yuck. He spent a lot of time french kissing young boys, too. Your insane, pedophile, prophet pretender was a filthy pervert. Quoting Biblical verses that are not and never have been commandments doesn’t make a moral equivalency between benevolent Christianity and vile islam.

    • Daniel Rubio

      But then again, the Hebrew Scriptures are not meant to be understood by a shallow, illiterate, arab-lover antisemite. A twisted mind as yours could read Cinderella and find antisemitic content even there!

      On the other hand, one doesn’t have to be a genius to find the hatred, bigotry and bitterness in muhammed’s rantings. He is a true precursor of nazism. Adolph and muhammed, two ideologues of the same totalitarian ideology, one aryan, another one arab.

      • Taimoor Khan

        Oh yes, “Slay the young and old” need deeper understanding and mystical and metaphysical thinking and what-not to understand, while Quranic verses which are much less graphic are to be taken without applying even an elementary explanatory context?

        You sure are a classic case of BIGOTRY and PREJUDICED thinking.

        BTW, Arabs are Semites, and more Semites than any European-blood containing mixed Jew could ever be. So an Arab-loving cannot possibly be an anti-Semite. You have fooled westerns enough of this BS and took billions $$ in reparations from Germans – won’t work with “hands on” Asiatic and Middle Eastern approach.

        • defcon 4

          “Much less graphic”? Huh?

          (Quran 5:33): The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is: Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land.

          (Quran 8:12): Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them.”

          Your lies run thin islam0nazi.

  • defcon 4

    “tie fast the bonds”, could be a metaphorical passage that really implies nothing more than a fast friendship. And “slaughter”? Why hasn’t anyone ever heard the song w/the verse: “killing her softly with my love song”?

  • 2wotvet

    If this article had a little less sarcasm in it, I might take it more seriously. As it is, Spencer isn’t coming across as the professional scholar in Islam he claims to be. He just comes across as whiny and childish.

    • VFW

      Maybe the sarcasm is needed on two accounts.

      The scholarly route has been taken forever and has been ignored in the mainstream press and forums. A little humor sells newsprint faster.

      I can remember watching John Stossel talking about Eurabia back in 2000 on Foxnews. He was talking about demographics and immigration and there is not a thing wrong with what he said The elites don’t care. Stossel and others were right. No 14 or more years later people are shocked at the problems and they do not know what to do.

      Second humor helps. This is so serious that if we did not poke a little fun at it we would cry.

    • https://CrossChek.net/ Donald Edwards

      Like you, you mean.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      “He just comes across as whiny and childish.”

      Muhammed in a nutshell.

      • defcon 4

        There aren’t many genocidal children who enslave and murder people who disagree w/their holiness.

    • john spielman

      nonsense, He knows more about the death cult of Islam than 99.9999% of muslims who claim to follow it! I dedected NO sarcasm only truth!

    • Pleiades

      Maybe in the mind of the beholder…. I heard dry amusement not sneering sarcasm. If he had not added the humor he would have been accused of ranting… but there is no fault with the facts, right? only with the lightened literary style?

    • defcon 4

      I wonder if the hundreds of death threats Mr. Spencer has received from his islam0fascist fanbase would merely be “whiny and childish” in your small mind.

  • DilleyGal

    Islam……Religion of Pieces……a leg here, an arm, there, a head, where ever???

    • Guest

      your wit is so amazing, I think I nearly had a heart attack from laughing so loud!

      Never mind huge death tolls caused by the war machines of the west,
      Why should you let facts get in the way?

      • Drakken

        Is it the infidels fault that you savages can’t make those machines?

  • crossbow87

    So, Tammy the Moor, are you saying your books don’t say what they really say and don’t mean what they really mean?

    • JoJoJams

      That’s pretty much the islamic argument – and never you mind your lying eyes as you look around the world in its entirety and see the ignorance and barbarism that is anything islamic! It’s a “Religion of Peace(tm)” and if you don’t agree, why they’ll riot in the streets in righteous anger, beheading and raping, pillaging and killing, all who DARE to say different!

      • crossbow87

        Let me understand you….you’re saying that right now, because I disagree with the content of Islam and realize it is a hate-filled political system, I am, right now as I type, rioting and raping and beheading and pillaging and killing everyone who disagrees with me? That is your accusation? Just to be clear.

        • JoJoJams

          You completely misread what I wrote…. ;-) The gist of it was that yes, you are correct, muslims will say that their book doesn’t mean what it says – ((or at least, what all the fanatical (read: pious, true muslims) say it says)) – and never mind what you see throughout the world with your own eyes, as well as what you read in their “holy” book. And if you disagree with them, THEY will riot etc. Capiche? :)

          • crossbow87

            M-kay.

        • defcon 4

          comment redacted.

    • Taimoor Khan

      No, I m saying – YOU DON’T tell us what Muslim books teach. MUSLIMS have the right to tell that.

      • crossbow87

        That’s where you’re wrong dude. I can read, understand and decide for myself if what Islam teaches is a good thing or a hateful thing…based upon what it says, the entire content of Islam is hate. And there is nothing you can do about that conclusion.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Islam, the “Religion of Peace”?

          LOL!

          Even KGB Putin is on the warpath against Islamofascism.

        • Taimoor Khan

          You are a Hitler wannabe and fascist, applying your interpretations on others and then condemning them.

          Your interpretation of Islam is as valid as Naz! interpretation of Judaism.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Your Socialist SHlTlers book “mein koran” is a Best Seller in savage islamist entities.

            Infidels know Islam. 9/11. 7/7/05 London bombing, Mumbai India massacre, Nairobi Kenya Mall massacre, Pan Am 103 bombing, 8 year Iraq/Iran war, child sacrifice, 100,000+ dead in Syria (Muslims killing Muslims).

            Islam is an Oxymoron.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Oh? What about Nicaragua? Vietnam? Cambodia? Somalia? Guatemala? Bay of Pigs? Iraq? Afghanistan?

            If you don’t know, these are some of the countries having faced American savagery in the last 50 years..

            MILLIONS of death involved. Your above list of atrocities PALE in comparison. Now what?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Bay of Pigs? Sounds like the Muslim Riviera.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            There have been bloodier days in the Middle East that don’t even get reported on the wire services. Many times. Many many times.

          • Omar

            Oh? What about the attempted occupation of Spain during the Spanish Civil War? What about the atrocities of the Soviet Union/Russia and Communist China and their aggressive occupations of Eastern Europe, North Korea, Tibet, Vietnam, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Cuba, Peru, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, Afghanistan, Suriname, Angola, South Yemen, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Somalia, Zimbabwe, Cambodia, Iraq, Kuwait and other parts of the world? What about the Islamist aggression in the Middle East and other parts of the world. Communists and Islamists are behind almost all of the atrocities in the modern world.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Oh? What about Nicaragua? Vietnam? Cambodia? Somalia? Guatemala? Bay of Pigs? Iraq? Afghanistan?”

            Dummy, communists and jihadis attack us because we reject sharia and communism and we’re the biggest sovereign standing in the way of either taking over the world. Too bad for you.

          • crossbow87

            So, your hate-filled political system doesn’t mean what it says? I mean, Robert Spencer did so above, quoting your books accurately…and you want me to believe I misunderstand when it commands you to kill unbelievers where you find them, when that is exactly what it says?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Your interpretation of Islam is as valid as Naz! interpretation of Judaism.”

            That’s a dramatic statement. Got any facts to back that up? Judging by what you’ve tried before, obviously you don’t. You’ll have no better luck than those before you.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        MUSLIMS follow the prophet of Satan called muhamed (Piss Be Upon Him).

        Islamfascism is the reason why every airport in the world has checkpoints to screen passengers and cargo/luggage.

      • Omar

        Your beloved “religion” is not a religion by nature, but is a hate cult that honors a homicidal pedophile and in which is keeping the Middle East in the Middle Ages. Support America unconditionally.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Your books are filled with hatred – of EVERYBODY.

        Muslims even kill Muslims.

        Taimoron, you are a deluded fool. Go back to your hellhole called pakistan.

      • JoJoJams

        Yes, Taimoor – and the “interpretations” we use are directly FROM MUSLIMS!! And if you disagree with them, that’s YOUR fault. Tell THEM that THEY are wrong! Too funny! YOu muzzies are such a sad, ignorant bunch of barbarians! No different than the psycho you follow – mad mo – the first of the ignorant ravers.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “No, I m saying – YOU DON’T tell us what Muslim books teach. MUSLIMS have the right to tell that.”

        Hey dummy, they do all the time. That’s why we know you’re a dupe or a liar. Actually both.

  • john spielman

    what Bill clinton did was evil, there is nothing in the New testament which condones such behavior(see the life an words of Jesus) . On the contrary Muhammed was a self confessed mass murderer thief liar fornicator and demon possessed pedophile!

  • iluvisrael

    don’t you have a goat to bang, a sister to honor kill, an infidel to behead?

    • Taimoor Khan

      No, but you must have a gentile child to cook and eat, right? BTW, Torah also has bestiality and incest in it.

      • crossbow87

        Right Tammy the Moor, but the content of your political system incentivizes slaughtering unbelievers and taking their women and children as slaves, correct?

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        The World sees the face of Islam.

        Beheading, throat cutting, stoning girls to death over “family honor”, stabbing, shooting, poison gas attacks on civilians as in Halabja Iraq, Syria, cannibalism in Syria, pedophilia, homosexuality is rampant among Muslims (see yassir arafat and the prophet of Satan called muhammed, hijacking, drugs, sado masochism, whipping, flaying.

        That’s some “religion of peace” you have there paki fool.

      • iluvisrael

        I do my own cooking pal – show me where Jews practice bestiality today genius – there are thousands of examples of muslims acting like savage beasts TODAY – how about the massacre in the Nairobi mall where muslim animals were murdering as many non-muslims as possible.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          And the recent Volgograd bus bombing by islamofascist chechen pigs.

          When KGB Putin is out to pacify you, you know you’ve stepped over the line.

          Fact: Islam is at War with the ENTIRE WORLD.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “No, but you must have a gentile child to cook and eat, right? BTW, Torah also has bestiality and incest in it.”

        That’s rational; compare libels against actual Islamic history.

        That’s a new idea. We’ve only been dealing with that for 14 centuries.

      • defcon 4

        “a gentile child to cook and eat”. Wow, nothing quite like a muslo-nazi appealing to one of the oldest and stupidest blood libels still believed in the dumb muslime world.

  • http://historyscoper.com/ T.L. Winslow

    It’s very simple. Islam is a codification of the Religion of Kill, Fuck, and Eat (KFE).
    Enough millions of words, and enough intimidation to accept it as holy, and the grand muftis can get all the poontang and nooky they want while the zombie believers have to applaud. See my free online Islam history course for more details.

  • https://CrossChek.net/ Donald Edwards

    Another excellent post Mr. Spencer.

  • JoJoJams

    Khan, you’re just a brainwashed fool reveling in your islamic ignorance. I know it’s tough on your inbred (after nearly 1300 years of 1st cousin marriages in about a third of islamic marriages) mind to look around in the world and see all the ignorance and poverty of every islamic nation. Since you’ve been told from birth that you “are the best of all peoples”, it’s very psychologically damaging to look around the world and see that, well — no, in actual reality – muslims suck compared to the rest of the world, and are ignorant barbarians. That hurts the ol’ psyche, so you argue false equivalencies and b.s.. It’s ok. Let it all out! We still pity you highly! Maybe some day you can grow up from the ignorance and barbarity that is islam.

  • Omar

    You have no right to insult anyone over facts about Islamist tapes, you annoying filthy terrorist-supporting jihadist monkey lowlife.

  • Sohail

    that reminds me 9450 Catholic priests, those who admitted, and thousand of those who did not admit and millions of those who are no longer alive.

  • saintecroix

    Satan’s shadow religion…Islam.

  • doruss03

    Islam is a religion of satan.

    • Guest

      wow! you are so intelligent and speak so factually!

  • Shirley Ann Smith-Rhodes

    The koran is a book of mystic rantings of a sexual pervert, pedophile terrorist! Calling islam a religion is exactly like calling the Nazis a religion! WE should have enough sense to identify and classify islam for what it is! It is not a
    religion! It is a satanic cult of a totalitarian government system to rule the world! To eliminate all infidels and establish a world caliphate for worship to
    their false God! Until we wake up and deal with this fact we are in grave
    danger! 1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is Love. The common theme throughout the Bible is this… Faith and Love! The
    theme of islam is fear and hate! Perfect Love casts out all fear! islam is
    Anti-Christian! They call the U. S. the “great satan” and Israel the “little satan” Doesn’t take a “Rocket Scientist” to figure out that islam is our enemy! We are at war! Not a war we, as Christians chose but war none the less! We must WAKE UP! Anyone finding my statements and/ or conclusions unacceptable, I challenge you to prove me wrong. IQ al Rassooli – 27th May 2013.
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/5796-iq-al-rassooli-on-the-islamic-murder-in-woolwich

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRtmMxB5yw CrossWinds

      Well spoken Shirley

    • Taimoor Khan

      Your photo indicating your age doesn’t befit such perverted and nonsense comments from you.

      • Omar

        Shut up, you stupid monkey-f**k. America is the best democratic country in the world. You and your stupid invented Islamist “Palestinian”extremists have been oppressing Jews and Israelis with the full support and approval of your neo-Communist Russia, Communist China and Islamist Iran, you turd-rating, camel urine-drinking Stalinist/Maoist Islamist jihadist monkey-f**k. You and your beloved neo-Communist Russia also support and approve Communist China’s illegal military occupation of Tibet and the ongoing genocide of the Tibetan people. You also support and approve neo-Communist Russia’s aggression against the Republic of Georgia, which Moscow invaded in 2008. Learn to love America. Maggot, you will learn to love the United States of America and all of its virtues, both domestic and foreign. Respect my country, you piece of s**t monkey f**k.

        • Guest

          Why are you so abusive? You are so full of hate and make no sense.

          You seem an recent apostate, which explains your reactionary rage.

          America is the best democracy? Internally, maybe. But externally, ask Vietnamese, Nicaraguans, Cubans, Iraqis, Afghanis, Sudanese, Lebanese, Palestinians, Yemenis, Pakistanis, South Americans (most of them), etc, and they might not agree and have valid reasons for disagreement.

          • defcon 4

            Yeah the only disagreement the musl0-nazis have w/US democracy is the fact it doesn’t enforce sharia law or aspects thereof.

          • Omar

            You shut up, you Stalinist/Maoist troll. Ask a Spaniard, Cuban (both a dissident on the island country and in exile), Venezuelan, Peruvian, Nicaraguan, Panamanian, Grenadan, Surinamean, Eastern European (most of them), Sudanese (particuarly Southern), Israeli, Libyan, Syrian, Korean (particularly from the North), Iraqi, Kuwaiti, Tibetan, Belarussian, Georgian, Angolan, Zimbabwean, Ethiopian, Mozambican, Somalian, Vietnamese and even Russian and Chinese dissidents what they think about Communist totalitarianism and the Soviet/neo-Communist Russian and Chinese Communist empires and the horror and misery that those Communist empires have caused on the world’s population. In the United States, ask any American citizen what they think about America’s totalitarian enemies and how they meddle in its internal affairs. Among American citizens, ask a Puerto Rican what they think of Communist Cuba and its client state, Chavista Venezuela (which I call the Cuban Raj) which often meddles in the affairs of the U.S. island territory by funding the separatist movement, which is Communist totalitarian in nature and in which has a history of committing acts of terrorism and other large crimes against their fellow American citizens. Regarding Islamofascism, ask anyone who has been a victim of Islamist Iran and its Islamist allies what they think of Islamist Iran and its crimes. Quit repeating Stalinist/Maoist lies and propaganda and learn from facts.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “America is the best democracy? Internally, maybe. But externally, ask Vietnamese, Nicaraguans, Cubans, Iraqis, Afghanis, Sudanese, Lebanese, Palestinians, Yemenis, Pakistanis, South Americans (most of them), etc, and they might not agree and have valid reasons for disagreement.”

            Correct. They’ve been lied to.

          • Taimoor Khan

            Or you.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Lies are told all around the world. Americans have the resources and access to investigate and find the facts more effectively than any other people.

            It’s not perfect but it is the best. Even you admitted it.

            Yes, many Americans believe the same lies that you do. I’m not satisfied by accepting the first seductive story. I dig until I’m confident that I have enough information.

          • Drakken

            Hey, here is an idea, if you love those 3rd worlders so much and despise us Americans, go live there, I am sure they would love to have you.

        • baba ali

          Wow! Listen to you! Eloquent language and very coherent at that! You fit in well here at FPM.

          • Omar

            I am simply responding to the unprovoke hatred that Communists and Islamists like you and Taimoor Khan have against the United States of America, the world’s greatest democracy. I am simply defending my country against libel attacks from radical leftists and Islamists like yourself. I am responding tough to the unprovoked attacks directed against America, Israel and the West by noting the real crimes and human rights abuses committed by anti-Western dictatorships, whose human rights records are worse than those of neutral or pro-Western governments. Quit repeating radical leftist/Islamist lies and propaganda and learn from facts.

          • baba ali

            Nees any cheese with that whine crybaby!?!

          • Omar

            Need any fresh camel urine to quench your thirst and to shut you up, Islamist monkey?

          • alwaysaround

            I’ll never shut up, I’m having too much fun making fun of you.

          • Omar

            Then you are a bullying troll who has no business being on the internet.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Where would we be now if Muslims hadn’t invented the Internet and computers and stuff?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Muslims would not have invented anything if it weren’t for those Europeans who persevered and advanced knowledge in the Middle Ages which lead to Renascence in the Arab world.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            See, being honest won’t kill you.

          • speakmymind

            Then thank God for the First Amendment.

          • athomenow

            Love the Muslim name, ha ha ha!

          • Omar

            I am not Muslim. Quit assuming things.

          • speakmymind

            I know you are a Muslim and I didn’t imply that you were.That was your very confused mind.

          • Omar

            No, I am not. You, on the other hand, are a Communist who speads libels about people.

          • Drakken

            Nice black flag of jihad haji, been paid a visit by DHS yet?

          • aka babaali

            I have and from the FIB and the CIA and been given a clean bill of health, ha ha ha!

      • dr.music

        if you’re soooo smart what u doin in dirty filthy islam ?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRtmMxB5yw CrossWinds

    Islam is anti-Christ, who are killing Christians in the middle east and Africa…..many believe he was just a prophet, but as you know, that is not a confession of Christian faith, nor acceptable to God the Father…Jesus was crucified because of His confession that He was God, His death being forordained before the foundations of the earth……within the Quran are the seeds of the anti-Christ, who most likely will rise on the back of an Islamic United States, persecuting Christians and attacking Israel…..There is no fellowship between the God of the Bible, and the muslim faith….

    4:157 That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not……………….

    5:75 Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food.

    • Taimoor Khan

      Islam recognizes Christ as prophet and respects him. Do you know what Jews think of Christ and what Jewish Rabbis have said of him and his mother, Marry (not to mention actual incident of the apparent killing of Christ in which Jews were in fact involved)?

      What Jews have had said about Christ and Marry I cannot mention here just to respect your feelings!

      You American televangelists have even forsaken your own religion and dumped your self-respect in your love for Israel that has been fed to you by your masters who want Israel to be used as a proxy in oil-rich Middle East.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “Islam recognizes Christ as prophet and respects him.”

        Islam plagiarizes and distorts stories about Christ as prophet and respects only their own delusions.

        “Do you know what Jews think of Christ and what Jewish Rabbis have said of him and his mother, Marry (not to mention actual incident of the apparent killing of Christ in which Jews were in fact involved)?”

        Should we launch a jihad because some people badmouthed Jesus?

        “What Jews have had said about Christ and Marry I cannot mention here just to respect your feelings!”

        You’re projecting your values again. We’re not that sensitive. Christians rioting over blasphemy worries…kind of rare these days.

        “You American televangelists have even forsaken your own religion and dumped your self-respect in your love for Israel that has been fed to you by your masters who want Israel to be used as a proxy in oil-rich Middle East.”

        They should all “revert” to Islam and let the flag of Mo fly over all the capitals of the world. Awesome.

        • Taimoor Khan

          Muslims respect Jesus as Prophet of God, period. You call it delusions, Muslims think that holding Jesus as the son of God is delusions – different beliefs.

          Not saying that any action should be taken against Jews for disparaging Jesus and Mary, but i was just replying to someone who was claiming Islam of being against Jesus, while remaining numb regarding those who really spoke against him.

          • defcon 4

            Fact is muslo-nazi, the only place Christians (and Baha’i and Jews) aren’t being murdered and persecuted by your fellow muzzscum w/impunity is the Jewish state of Israel. So stick that in your camel’s rump and have a hump.

          • Taimoor Khan

            What’s this:

            “Ha’aretz reports that anti-Christianity toward messianic Christians in Israel is now so intense they can’t worship safely without armed protection. Militant ultra-orthodox Jewish settlers dominate most local government and police in central Israel and the West Bank. Police do nothing as Christians are harassed and threatened with violence.”

            http://www.rense.com/general82/israc.htm

            And not to mention, Israel persecutes Palestinians!

          • Omar

            Haaretz is a left-wing, self-hating Jewish website that spreads false propaganda against Israel. It is most likely owned by Islamist radicals like yourself. You should read material from Stand With Us. They tell the truth about Israel and the Middle East conflict. Fact-check.

          • Taimoor Khan

            What tunnel vision you have? Anybody agreeing with you is saying the truth and whole truth, and anybody who does not agree with your cozy narrative, is wrong, hateful, nonsensical, stupid, and idiot?

            You mean to say that Haaretz cooked up this story from thin air?

          • Omar

            “What tunnel vision do you have? Anybody agreeing with you is saying the truth and the whole truth, and anybody who does not agree with your cozy narrative, is wrong, hateful, nonsensical, stupid, and idiot?”

            Yeah, pretty much. For the most part, America and its democratic allies like Britain and Israel are usually right on the world stage, while their radical leftist and Islamist totalitarians are usually wrong for the most part. That’s the reality.

            “You mean to say that Haaretz cooked up this story from thin air?”

            Yeah, pretty much. Haaretz has been working in collaboration with the Palestinian Authority and other anti-Israel and anti-Jewish hate groups. Haaretz behaves like traitors to the Jews.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Ha’aretz is a propaganda outlet for leftist ideology. That means virtually everything they believe is distorted by the fantasy of progress through destruction of national sovereignty. They want international organizations to deliver “social justice.”

            Ha’aretz is an enemy of Western civilization just as much as jihadis are. They actually report jihadis lies as legitimate news.

            See “United in Hate.”

          • defcon 4

            Persecutes whom? “Palestains? But they’re a mythical creature, because they don’t exist and never did.

          • Guest

            ooh so much hate. Keep wearing the tin hats mate.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Not saying that any action should be taken against Jews for disparaging Jesus and Mary, but i was just replying to someone who was claiming Islam of being against Jesus, while remaining numb regarding those who really spoke against him.”

            Isa is not Jesus. Muslims claim Isa is Jesus. That’s offensive to Christians and many others when a religion of hatred, conquest and totalitarian laws wants to appropriate the central figure in a religion that it wants to attack as false. Especially when all of the evidence supports the Christian and Jewish records of Jesus of Nazareth.

            Best for you not to bring up Isa or claim that Muslims respect Jesus. I suppose there are in theory Muslims that accept today’s Bible and think Mo is a minor prophet who was given extra respect as the “last” prophet and because the evidence is so weak for anything about him, they basically imagine him as a Christian evangelist and their Islam becomes a modified version of Christianity. But those people don’t hate Christians or try to distort the facts of history.

      • Omar

        Monkey-f**k, first of all, it’s Mary, not “Marry”. Second, Jews have done no such thing to Jesus. The Romans were the ones who crucified him. The Romans, for all of their cultural and historical virtues, did have their dark side, as the Romans persecuted Christians and Jews for a long time. Eventually, Christianity was recognized as the official religion of the Roman Empire, just decades before Rome fell to the Germanic tribes in 476 AD. The absurd claim that Jews “hated” Christ was part of the Medieval blood libels created by some Christian fundamentalists. Today, the people who hate Jesus are the Islamists like yourself. Give me some form of evidence that Jews had despised Jesus and Mary. You don’t even have a single shred of evidence to back your outrageous and erroneous claim.

        • Taimoor Khan

          Talumd: “Balaam also the son of Beor, the soothsayer, [did the children of Israel slay with the sword]. A soothsayer? But he was a prophet! — R. Johanan said: At first he was a prophet, but subsequently a soothsayer. R. Papa observed: This is what men say, ‘She who was the descendant of princes and governors, played the harlot with carpenters.’ (5) [106b] Did the children of Israel slay with the sword among them that were slain by them. Rab said: They subjected him to four deaths, stoning, burning, decapitation and strangulation.”

          Balaam?

          “Herford, Christianity in the Talmud, p. 48, suggests that Balaam is frequently used in the Talmud as a type for Jesus … Though no name is mentioned to shew which woman is meant, the mother of Jesus may be alluded to, which theory is strengthened by the statement that she mated with a carpenter.” Rabi Freedman.”

          http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/censorship_2.html

          Talmud is full of abuses for Jesus and Mary.

          You will strip yourself up to lick up to Jews, you Evangelist!

          • defcon 4

            How does Balaam translate into Yeshua again?

          • Taimoor Khan

            Ask Rabi Freedman (no less!).

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRtmMxB5yw CrossWinds

        The Jews are not killing Christians. The muslims are persecuting Christians, and killing some in muslim countries. Churches are allowed in Israel, but banned in some muslim countries. Jesus Christ is God, who does not receive honour from a false prophet as yours, no matter how many times you say, ” peace be upon him.” You should seek the peace with God the Father, that only Jesus, God the Son can give you. He is the only way to the Father. Here is a list of the top countries that persecute Christians…..Israel in not among them, as you accuse them of…..

        1) North Korea
        2) Somalia
        3) Syria
        4) Iraq
        5) Afghanistan
        6) Saudi Arabia
        7) Maldives
        8) Pakistan
        9) Iran
        10) Yemen
        11) Sudan
        12) Eritrea
        13) Libya
        14) Nigeria
        15) Uzbekistan
        16) Central African Republic
        17) Ethiopia
        18) Vietnam
        19) Qatar
        20) Turkmenistan
        21) Laos
        22) Egypt
        23) Myanmar (Burma)
        24) Brunei
        25) Colombia
        26) Jordan
        27) Oman
        28) India
        29) Sri Lanka
        30) Tunisia
        31) Bhutan
        32) Algeria
        33) Mali
        34) Palestinian Territories
        35) United Arab Emirates
        36) Mauritania
        37) China
        38) Kuwait
        39) Kazakhstan

        • defcon 4

          It’s almost as if there’s an ideological pattern in the countries you’ve mentioned. Almost as if the vast majority of them might share a common ideology.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRtmMxB5yw CrossWinds

            Revelation 17:17…… For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.
            There is coming a 10 nation confederacy talked about in the Book of Revelations, from which will arise a leader called the anti-christ. It is interesting if you read Psalm 83, it lists 10 nations in a confederacy against Israel in the End Times…..The ten nations mentioned in Psalm 83 and those I believe are also here referenced have all three of these points uniting them — ethnic background, religion and language — any one of which is in itself a powerful unifying force, but combined together, we are reminded of that old maxim about a three fold cord not being easily broken. (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12)
            Ahmadinejad of Iran previously proposed forming a new group of 10 countries to work to end the 2 year Syrian civil war…….
            ….”These ten nations are generally of an Ishmaelitic stock of peoples. They are also mostly adhering to the Islamic faith and finally, they are united by the Arabic language. So, when you see this point about ten kings being of ‘one mind,’ it makes a lot more sense or is more feasible to look at the Middle East for this uniting of peoples lead by rulers who become of one mind.
            ….”We can see that these ten nations join the Beast power and make war on the ‘Lamb.’ Almost 30 times in the book of Revelation do we have this term ‘Lamb’ used and it is quite clear that this term refers to Jesus Christ. We can also refer to John’s Gospel (1:29) where Jesus is called clearly ‘the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.’
            …..”So, we can see that these ten kings and the Beast power are going to make war on the ‘Lamb.’ If these are Middle Eastern kingdoms united with the Beast power, one has to wonder in some way if they are uniting around some factors helping make them of ‘one mind’ as I have here referenced? Could be. Certainly, they are going to be hostile and make war against the Lamb. This must mean that these ten kings are hostile to TRUE Christianity and to its leader, the Lamb, who is Jesus Christ. I think this is fairly clear from this text.”……..
            ……Psalm 83:……..For behold, Your enemies make a tumult; And those who hate You have lifted up their head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people, And consulted together against Your sheltered ones. 4 They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.” 5 For they have consulted together with one consent; They form a confederacy against You: 6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab and the Hagrites; 7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assyria also has joined with them; They have helped the children of Lot

        • Taimoor Khan

          So Buddhists are the worse devils on the planet?

          See? Your list is useless.

        • Omar

          You forgot to mention Communist Cuba and Chavista Venezuela (a.k.a. the Cuban Raj) on the list.

  • johnnywood

    The Koran is a rambling mindless piece of literature that only stupid Mooslims could believe. Piss be upon them.

    • baba ali

      And upon younas well!

      • defcon 4

        Have you had your warm, steaming mug of healthy camel urine today? Prophet recommended, prophet approved.

        • baba ali

          After you big, tough guy!

          • defcon 4

            I’m not muslime, I don’t believe everything (or anything for that matter) muhammad said or did is holey or true.

          • Guest

            What about perversion of Torah and Talmud?

    • Guest

      What do you believe Johny?

      Did you have someone you love die in the twin towers?

      • johnnywood

        No I did not. I think that the only “Holy Book” is the Bible. The Koran is just foolish babbling which one might expect from an illiterate like Mohammed.

        • Taimoor Khan

          See my quotes from Torah (Old Testament).

          You are a bigot.

  • cacslewisfan

    Thanks for the great article. Robert Spencer is hilarious. Watch his show “Jihad Watch” on the trinitychannel.com

  • American-By-Choice

    Just BAN ISLAM… Already! It’s little more than an evil cult of low-rent idiots.

    Either ban it now or suffer the consequences of having to eviscerate it down the road. It’s not like there’s a third option.

    • Guest

      “American-By-Choice”

      USA is yesterday’s news son, the sun is setting. You are no longer a super power. But more power to you.

  • weiserite

    I just finished your book, Robert, Did Muhammad Exist. I thought it was excellent. Yes, if Muslims are going to live in the modern world they are going to have to accept scholarly examination of their religion just like all other major religions have undergone.
    What I think you should do now is expand on what you have written in this article by writing a book dispassionately, if possible, comparing the moral and philosophical content of the Koran and the Hebrew and Christian scripture. I am an amateur scholar of Islam and Arabic who has lived in the Middle East for 30 years. . Aside from the awful violence advocated in the Koran, I find it woefully lacking in depth and profundity. The sounds of Arabic from the Koran are indeed beautiful. But as one old Arabic teacher of mine once said. “It is a golden key to an empty room”.
    I think this lack of anything profound in its basic scripture, especially when one compares it with the richness of the Bible is at the base of why Islamic civilization never created much and still doesn’t, in literature and science..

    • Taimoor Khan

      Christians were living in their own filth when Muslims were building empires. So keep your arrogance to yourself. Billions of people taking inspiration from Islam and living their lives would disagree with your “depth” analysis. Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder and your bias is evident.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “Christians were living in their own filth when Muslims were building empires. So keep your arrogance to yourself.”

        The Christians that got thrown out of their homes by the jihadis who built their theft-based empires?

        “Billions of people taking inspiration from Islam and living their lives would disagree with your “depth” analysis.”

        Obviously they disagree.

        “Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder and your bias is evident.”

        Yeah, but eventually we have to solve real world problems and you’re trying to whitewash one of the big ones.

  • Daniel Rubio

    This site has been infected by a self-appointed defender of muslims who dubs himself “Taimoor Khan”. He is the classic jerk who thinks himself as a well-educated, well-balanced universal all-knowing knight of the truth.

    And he has been trying to defend his defense-less idiotic arguments left and right, brandishing factoids here and there. And certainly he has gathered the attention of readers of this column.

    What he will fail to notice, as all of his ilk do, is that he holds two rods to measure up things. For these self-elected purveyors of the truth, what is good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander. Antisemites like him always hold Jews to stricter standards than they hold say, a lowlife muslim. And a muslim antisemite has even lower standards, for he considers holy the teachings of a criminal, hate-filled, impotent, delusional pedophile who thought he was someone.

    Hopefully this jerk will move on to sites where his stupid, biased views are more welcome to brain-washed ignorants. Unless in the case like, just as his prophet did, he gets his highs by molesting and annoying other people.

  • tanstaafl

    This is Islam.

  • popseal

    There is nothing in its history to say Islam is peaceful for anybody not a Muslim. Violent Seventh Century superstitions have no place in the Twenty First Century.

  • baba ali

    Ramble much coo coo bird?

    • defcon 4

      Oh SoA why aren’t you killing the najjis kaffir for allah and his prophet instead of socializing with them on FPM?

      • Taimoor Khan

        Why don’t you kill some Muzzies? Oh, you don’t have the balls?

        • Pedro Rabaçal

          But muzies have the “balls” to kill christians in Egypt and Pakistan, as well as mainly other muslims like in Syria

          But balls to kill jews, you dont have. Just for talk! LOL

  • Guest

    Hopefully zero. Damn Israeli illegal immigrants.

  • Guest

    WOW

    The anti-muslim trolls are out with force today!

    How much FUD and misinformation and hate are we going to witness today?

    • Pedro Rabaçal

      WOW a muzie sheep with no balls for facts about his faith!

      Had you ever tried to read you quran?…
      We did.

  • Taimoor Khan

    They were occupiers. So they had to leave. Don’t play religious card.

  • Taimoor Khan

    Very similar to what Naz!s said or say about Judaism!

    Just substitute “Islam” with “Judaism” and you have a classic ranting of a Naz!.