The U.S., the U.K. and Canada in Jihad Denial

src.adapt.480.lowThe denial of the reality of jihad is thicker than ever, even as jihadis advance around the world. And it endangers us all.

Former CIA officer John Maguire revealed this week that the CIA was blindsided by the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), which now controls so much of Syria and Iraq and has designs on a great deal more territory. Maguire attributed the CIA’s underestimating of ISIL’s threat to The Company’s reduced presence in Iraq: “This is a glaring example of the erosion of our street craft and our tradecraft and our capability to operate in a hard place. The U.S. taxpayer is not getting their money’s worth.”

But that isn’t the whole story. Another reason why the CIA was completely surprised by ISIL’s advance was because the Obama Administration has so thoroughly deemphasized the jihad threat, and loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that al Qaeda was the only jihad group – and was, for its part, “on the ropes.” ISIL, an offshoot of al Qaeda in a country where Obama was in a hurry to declare victory and get out was unlikely to be the focus of sustained or serious analysis.

The willful ignorance is all-pervasive. It is a fundamental dogma of our age that the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Western countries are enthusiastic democratic pluralists who reject and abhor not only jihad terrorism, but the elements of Sharia that are at variance with otherwise universally held principles of human rights. This dogma keeps running up against the buzz-saw of reality, but that never seems to make a difference to authorities.

And so it was this week that the UK’s Daily Mail noted that the Metropolitan Police’s Assistant Commissioner, Cressida Dick, said of Britain’s Muslim communities that “there were many cases where ‘warning signs’ about extremists were not brought to the attention of authorities. She also indicated some Muslims were too accepting of radical views, saying it was the police’s ‘greatest challenge’ to make them ‘wholly hostile to violent extremism.’”

How could this be? After all, a core assumption of British intelligence and law enforcement officials is that Muslim communities on the Sceptered Isle unambiguously oppose “violent extremism,” except, of course, for that pesky and ever-present tiny minority of extremists. So why were Muslims sometimes not bringing potential jihadis to the attention of authorities? Of course the obvious reason for this, and for why some Muslims in Britain are “too accepting of radical views,” is because they agree with those “radical views” and consider them to be authentic Islam. But that prospect is so horrifying in its implications that British officials do not dare face it.

Indeed, it is virtually universally accepted that Islam is inherently peaceful, and that only the extremists who misunderstand it (and vicious Islamophobes) think otherwise. So it was that at the University of Calgary, university officials ignored a professor’s warnings about potential jihadists on campus – after all, such a suggestion is “Islamophobic,” is it not?

A Muslim from Calgary, Farah Mohamed Shirdon, is in Iraq waging jihad with ISIL, and a former University of Calgary professor, Aaron Hughes, is saying that he tried to warn university officials that something like this was in the offing.

Hughes said: “I was very much bothered by the conservative nature of the Muslim student body. I was definitely aware of the potential for radicalization on campus. That is another venue in which potential radicalization could occur, so not just at mosques, but also on campus.” However, “I had been mentioning the conservative nature of these students and the university; they just weren’t interested in it.”

These “conservative” students annoyed Hughes by refusing to accept his understanding of Islam: “They made teaching Islam from an objective perspective very difficult because they knew what the ‘real’ Islam was. Of course they didn’t.” Or maybe they did, but Hughes, assured of the fact that Islam was a Religion of Peace, was certain that they were actually ignorant of their own religion, no matter how dedicated to it they were.

University officials, in any case, disregarded Hughes’s warnings. Jihadis on campus? Inconceivable! Islam is a Religion of Peace!

Even terrorism may be peaceful nowadays. Mohamed Hassan Hersi, a Muslim in Toronto who has been convicted of trying to join the jihad terror group al Shabaab, was only engaged, according to his lawyer, in “non-violent terrorism.”

“Non-violent terrorism”? The phrase is as stupid and devoid of content as another popular term these days, “moderate Islamist.”

The world is in flames because of Islamic jihad. Will those flames finally burn away the all-blanketing fog of disinformation, misinformation, and willful ignorance concerning the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat? Perhaps. But there is no telling how much else will be burned away along with it.

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  • herb benty

    The leftist, socialist, marxist/Islamist excusers infest Canada it’s true. BUT, at this moment in time we are blessed with a Prime Minister who unabashedly supports Israel. He pays a price for this support I’ll concede that. The leftist Opposition grill him for any puny issue, the professors rail against him, the unions do the same. BUT there he is supporting Israel. God Bless him.

    • Alain

      As a Canadian I must say that while you state the truth, it is not the complete truth. The complete truth is that Canada like all other Western countries still refuses to identify the enemy which is Islam itself and continues allowing the inflow of Islamic “immigration” or what others call invasion. Contrary to the talking heads and authorities this is not a war on terrorism, since terrorism is only one of many tactics used by the enemy. It is clear that Western civilisation has chosen the path of suicide at this point.

      • herb benty

        Ya know, I sure can’t disagree with your statements. Those pretty ladies in their headscarves are the tip of the spear that comes later, unfortunately. I read a Koran from the library and it was horrifying, world domination, death to Christians, Jews and Infidels! And the leftist immigration gatekeepers don’t have a clue. I’m beginning to think Islam is that Biblical religion that terrorizes the world in the last days. Revelation……”beheaded for their witness of Jesus Christ”( Rev. 20:4). God seems to be allowing this horrible development. How else do you explain the utter insanity of the Left that embraces this woman-hating, gay-murdering, child-molesting freedom-destroying RELIGION!!

        • Iknowjohngalt

          You are exactly right. These so-called leaders of ours, both parties, are so afraid of not being PC that they are taking us down the path of destruction. I am so tired of hearing about this so-called “religion of peace” being “high jacked” by a few “radicals”,

          I truly believe that islam is an evil life style. it is not a religion but a crushing, depressing, all encompassing, system that is the antithesis of Judaism and Christianity.

          It’s entirely possible that the Antichrist may come from the EU, which is fast becoming a muslim enclave due to PC run amuck. Check out the “12th Imam.”

          • herb benty

            Well, you know that world we all would love to see( we picture this in our mind), that world of real Peace, where everyone lives a happy life and nobody hurts anyone else? God said if you loved Peace, you would be saved. That is what I am holding out for, but sadly, this present world must be destroyed. Evil must be destroyed.I think this is all coming to pass soon. From what I did hear about this “12th Imam- he seems to fit the Anti-Christ to a T.

        • sprinklerman

          The true meaning of Islam is “to surrender”, not of peace.

          http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Meaning_of_Islam

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      G-d Bless Stephen Harper.

      • herb benty

        We love him, BUT, he is only one man and the leftist machine is the same in Canada as in America. Harper gets voted out eventually, then what? A Canadian Obama? God Bless America!

        • Alain

          Not only do we have our own neo-marxists running the MSM, entertainment and education, we are under attack from American neo-marxists. They continue dumping huge amounts of foreign funding to every radical group here in order to kill our natural resources and economy. In fact many who worked to get Obama elected are trying to do the same with our pale version of Obama, Trudeau the man-child.

          • herb benty

            Ya, that’s right. The, “Dogwood Initiative”, a petition in BC against the Northern Gateway Pipeline, is from California! The Tides-Canada foundation that is against the Oilsands is a Soros creation. Greenpeace, ForestEthics, Council of Canadians, Center for Policy Alternatives, Sierra Club etc., ALL get money from Rockefeller, Communist and OPEC(Arab) sources.Canada’s vast energy deposits are under World attack.

          • Albert Darringdon

            That’s because if they came on line, there’d be no more petrodollars to support Saudi, Iran, Sudan and Venezuela (Cuba). We’ve got just as much oil and gas as any of them!

          • herb benty

            That is a fact!

    • Americana

      You’ve gotta laugh at the major mistakes the ISIS and ISIL group have made by rushing the announcement of the Caliphate just so their guy could be awarded the gold star and the crescent moon.Read this story and you tell me if you agree w/me that Al Baghdadi has shot ISIS and ISIL in the b*lls by claiming the Caliphate for himself to rule simply because he got his men their first. Such a purposeful power play is not going to earn him anyone’s allegiance in my view…. The fact the groups made the announcement in the grandiose fashion of wiping away any sovereignty in any other groups, no matter how popular their leaders might be doesn’t bode well for al Baghdadi. MAJOR, absolutely CATASTROPHIC tactical failure in their mindset. Thank god ISIS and ISIL screwed this up.
      __________________________________

      From a CNN story:

      The spokesman for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, made the announcement in an audio statement posted online on the first day of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Muslim extremists have long dreamed of recreating the Islamic state, or caliphate, that ruled over the Middle East, much of North Africa and beyond in various forms over the course of Islam’s 1,400-year history.

      Al-Adnani declared the group’s chief, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, as the new leader, or caliph, and called on jihadi groups everywhere, not just those in areas under the organization’s control, to swear loyalty to al-Baghdadi and support him.

      “The legality of all emirates, groups, states and organizations becomes null by the expansion of the caliph’s authority and the arrival of its troops to their areas,” al-Adnani said. “Listen to your caliph and obey him. Support your state, which grows every day.”

      • Americana

        Apologies for all the typos, I’m just thrilled w/this news. It’s the first significant nail in the coffin of these jihadists.

        • Fritz

          I think that the first nail in their coffin was in offering to “split the take” with the B’athists, (you know Saddam’s boys?), in Central Iraq and then deciding to stiff them on their cut of whatever they looted. The trouble is that the B’athists were the ones that stashed away a lot of munitions and arms from the Saddam era, and they have no qualms about using them.
          Has anyone ever wondered what happened to the former members of Saddam’s “Republican Guard”? Those guys have the psychotic mindset of Waffen SS storm troopers, and were no doubt responsible for making many of the roadside bombs and IEDs used against Americans. I can imagine those guys turning their rage against the ISIL.

      • herb benty

        Ya these guys make innocents suffer, just like their other terrorist buds.

  • Iknowjohngalt

    Well. at least you have a glimmer of hope; wish we had some intelligent people
    running the US, but, it is not to be .They say those who do not study and learn
    from history are bound to repeat it. One would have to be blind not to see the
    warning signs in Europe. We are definitely on that same path.
    Appeasement does not work.
    I fear for my country because of the willful efforts to deny the truth on many
    fronts.

    What kind of countries are we creating for our children and grandchildren??

    • yo neighbor

      one where they will be subject of the state.

    • knowshistory

      a better question would be “what kind of children and grandchildren are we creating?” I have one brother that is a confirmed liberal. it is impossible to have a conversation near him, because he shouts down anything that does not conform to the democratic party plan for surrender, slavery, and genocide. he has 2 sons. they are lazy, ignorant, overeducated d-bags. they cant even get a job at mcdonalds. in their mid-20′s, they are still in their parents basement, playing video games. they are not capable of working. when they visit the rest of the family, when offered a chance to do honest work, like fence building, land clearing, or gardening, they pretend interest, but 10 minutes is the maximum they can stand. it would be nice if they were rare exceptions to the rule. but they are not. they are mainstream current generation americans. we should be ashamed.

      • Tom Winegar

        If your brother was being a parent rather than a Communist cheerleader he would give his sons 30 days to go to work and then toss them out, how long before they wind up nursing the entitlement teat. I did it years ago with my youngest son and never regretted the decision. Sadly, in order to appease her mother my youngest daughter voted for Obama twice even though she has the same Conservative beliefs as I. I saw a glimmer of hope with her a couple of months ago so Amazon’ed her the DVD set of World At War to get her started with her recovery, WWII being an excellent teaching tool for the ignorant. For myself, I’m beginning a journey to sell my house in the burbs and building a small home in a rural area so I can grow my own food and prepare for the culling. Good luck with your brother and stay focused.

        • Fritz

          Sadly under the economy of dear “Fearless Leader” they may not be able to find work even if they wanted it.

        • knowshistory

          I believe I mentioned that he is a liberal. he is incapable of recognizing that there is a problem.

      • Drakken

        The children today are lazy, feckless, ignorant, no drive or ambition. This is part of the reason Rome fell. It is a kind of perverse pleasure knowing that when push comes to shove, Darwin is going to have a field day.

      • gajaw999

        You must live near me because I know two boys who fit that description to a tee. Finally their dad’s resources have run out so they have no choice but to go to work. I left home at 19 with my parents’ blessing to work my way through school. Tough at times, but I wouldn’t trade the experience for the world. No student loans back then, so I graduated debt free.

  • Greg Hamilton

    Keep pushing these issues in the faces of your family, friends, neighbours, and anyone else by wearing a simple badge which bears an apparently inoffensive message but warns of what’s to come.

    Search for Enjoy the Conditions of Omar or use this link: http://enjoytheconditionsofomar.blogspot.co.uk/

    • Evermyrtle

      Most of them do not want to be bothered, other things are more important, plus the fact that we are “fanatics,” we are too concerned!!!

      • phoebeintheforest

        Isn’t that the truth?!

  • Damaris Tighe

    Ayn Rand once wrote, ‘wishing doesn’t make it so’: a lesson yet to be learned by our western politicians.

  • Evermyrtle

    Jihad:Antichrist. If we need one word to describe Jihad that is it antichrist. It main aim is to destroy GOD and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. Americans, Canadians, the world needs to know this, before we can, to save our very lives, everything that is dear to us, because of our love for GOD and JESUS CHRIST fight it, not accept it. Christians that truly follow CHRIST will never accept it. The world is not accepting this fact, it is slowly being sucked in, which means it will left up to JESUS CHRIST. Before HE does that HE will remove HIS people from the earth, 1Thessalonians 4:13-18.

  • montlasky

    The world fails time and again to understand that if you are a true Muslim and a follower of the Koran, you are radical. No if’s or but’s-benign is unacceptable to any Muslim Shia or Sunni. If you are a Muslim you are determined to install the world witihin a universal caliphate. If you are not a Muslim you are an infidel and if you are Jewish, you are first on their hit-list. It’s simple but is not understood by the Western world at large. Some people are at last waking up to the dangers to the world as we know it due to the Muslim’s unrelenting march towards achieving a Universal Caliphate. Luckily, the danger is slowed by the hate that the Sunnis have for the Shia’s and visa versa. They will never come to terms on their differences. Let this gap be taken for the Western civilisation to fighting the scourge of Islam and soon!

    • Americana

      Those who are selling this whole-world Caliphate are selling it for one reason only — because it serves to hide the WHY behind another Muslim/infidel situation, that of Israel and the Palestinians. If the whole-world Caliphate were truly the aim of most Muslims we’d already be in the religious fight of our lives against BILLIONS of Muslims instead of thousands. We have significant tactical social challenges we must confront w/the world’s Muslims but we shouldn’t lose sight of the true risks simply because there are those who are whipping up the terrifying thought of a worldwide Caliphate.

      Are there signs around the Arab world that any Arabs or Muslims anywhere can take the territory of a legitimately militarized country, never mind hold a Caliphate together? There are NO SUCH SIGNS. But the folks who are playing “Hide The Jihad” are going to continue this terroristic buildup of emotions regarding Muslims. They play a dangerous game and they don’t care as long as their “Hide The Jihad” propaganda continues apace. This is tragic for any number of reasons but the ultimate tragedy is they are allowing Israel to evade true peace negotiations and that they believe this will be a successful strategy going forward until such time as the Palestinians are exiled from the region.

      • 1Indioviejo1

        How would you “not allow Israel to evade true peace negotiations” with an enemy who doesn’t recognize its right to exist? But, you know this and in spite of the fact that Israel has not peace partner among the savages you insist in placing the blame of the conflict on Israel. Islam’s Jihad against the unbeliever pre-dates Israel by 1,400 years, or have you forgotten the Imperialistic expansion by the savage Mohamedans out of the desert? Syria, Samaria, Judea and Jerusalem in 638 A.D., Egypt, Spain in 711 A.D., and eventually Constantinople in 1453. They never will stop until we destroy them, so don’t blame the Jews for Mahamed’s Psychopathy. Here is a thought for anti-semites like you.
        “I think that anti-Jewish prejudice is an unfailing sign of a sick and disordered person … It’s a horrible, conspiratorial, pseudo-intellectual, mean spirited, eventually lethal piece of bigotry.”
        ― Christopher Hitchens
        I believe you fit this bill.

        • DontMessWithAmerica

          Don’t respond or waste time on “Americana” who either wanders about this world blind, tapping a white cane or, a Muslim infiltrator.

          • Alain

            Bang on which is why “Americana” is so desperately trying to redirect the discussion. Best to ignore.

        • Americana

          Why do I suggest that’s not the important issue to secure at the moment? Because even if the majority of the Palestinians agree, there will be a minority who will disagree and may continue some jihadist attacks. But if the VAST MAJORITY of Palestinians AGREE to a peace and observe a cease-fire w/all its obligations then israel will still be ahead of the jihad business.

          There are historical precedents for a lot of things in the Muslim world; it doesn’t mean they’re going to take all of Christendom or even be interested in taking all of Christendom. Sure, some are talking about it but it’s more like blabbering to energize and motivate the troops. Have they made ANY MOVES against what has traditionally been Christian territory? No, they’re renewing the Caliphates in places where there were previously Caliphates and so far, there’s no one amongst the Muslims who’s got the international Muslim chops credibility to energize a Muslim wave against Christendom, or the West, whichever term you prefer. Just because they aren’t in a position to take on the West doesn’t mean we let our guard down but certainly we don’t benefit from this hysteria.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Sure, some are talking about it but it’s more like blabbering to energize and motivate the troops.”

            Motivate them to do what?

          • Brucew56

            @Americana..”There are historical precedents for a lot of things in the Muslim world; it doesn’t mean they’re going to take all of Christendom or even be interested in taking all of Christendom. Sure, some are talking about it but it’s more like blabbering to energize and motivate the troops.”
            You’ve conveniently ignored Islamic ABROGATION, whereby past Koranic statements are overridden by current philosophy. So, Islam basically is whatever the current rulers say it is.
            Have they made any moves on Christian territory? You better open your eyes! It’s happening tight now!
            This very morning a Muslim woman went door to door in my neighborhood offing to educate on the koran. I politely explained that I was a Christian, Jesus Christ was my Savior, I and was not interested in knowing more about Islam. She then asked if I was interested in knowing what the koran had to say about Jesus. I explained that the basis of my faith was the Bible. Then, she turned and walked away.

            So, now, we are seeing an effort to spread Islam in Rochester, Minnesota. I see this very different from the Jehovah Witnesses or Mormon folks. Islam’s goal is to convert infidels, by force if necessary, or destroy societies that resist.

          • Americana

            That type of proselytizing is done by all faiths. Is that a sign of the Muslim Apocalypse? No.

          • Brucew56

            @Americana…only Islam has the goal of burying those that don’t accept it!

          • Americana

            That’s true, but since that is only true in regions where there is an overwhelming Muslim population, that’s not really our problem of the moment. Should we deal w/Muslims in this light? Of course. But our situation is far, far different from those countries in North Africa that had large Muslim populations from the days of the Muslim slave trade where the Muslims are intent on jihad for purposes of forming a Caliphate in the region.

          • Brucew56

            @Americana…do you think once there is a caliphate, that will be the end of jihad? They want the entire world, and will not stop unless forced to stop.

          • J.B.

            You islamopithecines are wannabe supremacists wherever you squat. Especially in the Western countries you infest.

            Trolltard.

          • American Patriot

            Pardon me, but what exactly is a pithecine?

          • J.B.

            Other faiths don’t proselytize through lies.

            Give it up, Palitard.

          • Drakken

            Your so full of sh*t your eyes are floating, the vast majority of those goddamn muslim savages want the Jews dead dumbazz. You don’t make peace with sub humans that want you dead and gone. The Christians all over the muslim world are being slaughtered and here you are singing kumbaya and peace at any price, bloody pathetic. There is no helping you, useful idiots of the left like you have to learn the hard way, and it will be a well deserved bloody lesson. Peace Now activist like you are a blight upon humanity.

          • Americana

            SignatoriesJacob PerryFormer GSS director (1995-1998). Chairman of the Board of Mizrahi
            Tefahot and Chairman of Magal. Expert on defense and terror.Amnon Lipkin-Shahak15th Chief of the General Staff, IDF (1995-1998). Former government minister (1999-2001).Amram MitznaFormer Chairman of the Labor Party, Major General (IDF), Mayor of Haifa , Head of the Appointed Committee of Yeruham.Danny YatomFormer director of the Mossad (1996-1998).
            Former Commanding General of the Central Command, Military Secretary to PM Rabin and PM Peres, and Chief of Staff and security advisor to PM Barak. Former MK.Ami AyalonFormer Director of the GSS (1996-2000).
            Former government Minister (2007-2008).
            Founding member of “Blue-White Future”.Yuval RabinBusinessman and one of the Initiative’s authors.Danny GillermanFormer Ambassador to the UN.
            Head of the Markstone Fund.Alik RonMajor General Israel Police (Ret).Dov TamariBrigadier General (res.) General Staff Reconnaissance Unit commander, first chief intelligence officer in the IDF.Att. Moshe ShachalAttorney, former MK and minister.Dr. Yehuda Ben- MeirDeputy Foreign Minister on behalf of Mafdal (1981-1983). Founder of Meimad. Dr. of Psychology, senior research fellow, Institute for National Security Studies (INSS).Dr. Alon LielInternational relations researcher and Israeli diplomat who served as Director General of the Foreign Ministry (2000-2001). Ambassador to South Africa, and Chargé d’Affaires in Turkey.Avi PrimorDeputy Rector, Interdisciplinary Center, Herzliya. Former Israeli Ambassador to Germany and EU, and Deputy Director General, Ministry of Foreign Affairs.Nathan SharonyPresident of the Council of Peace and Security. Major General (IDF). Former Director General of the Ministry of Industry, Tourism, and Trade.Prof. Shimon ShamirMiddle East scholar and diplomat. Israeli Ambassador to Egypt (1988-1990) and Israel’s first Ambassador to Jordan (1994-1996).Idan OferBusinessman, owner of Israel Corp., chairman of the board of Better Place.Att. Dalia RabinChairperson of the Rabin Center.
            Former MK (1999-2003).Colette AvitalFormer MK and a diplomat, Director of the Berl Katznelson Foundation.Shlomo GurDeputy Director of the Claims Committee, former Director General of the Ministry of Justice, deputy ambassador to the US.Shaul GivoliBrigadier General (IDF), Major General (Israel Police). Director General of the Council of Peace and Security.Uri NeemanFormer head of the Mossad’s research wing (1989-1995).
            Member of the Council of Peace and Security.Prof. Yoram MeitalChairman of the Chaim Hertzog Center for Middle East Studies and Diplomacy. Scholar of political and national processes in the Middle East.Att. Oded DovratPresident of the Ramat Gan College.Prof. Eli PodehMiddle East scholar, expert in the history of the Arab world, Islam and Middle East Studies, Truman Institute for the Advancement of Peace, Hebrew University of Jerusalem.Dr. Efrat ElronOrganizational psychologist, expert on multi-national forces and Israeli interfaces with the international community.Prof. Aliza ShenharPresident of the Yizre’el Valley College. Former Israeli ambassador to the Russian Federation (1994-1997).Dr. Matti SteinbergMiddle East scholar, former advisor to GSS director. Lecturer at Princeton University.Dr. Ephraim LavieMiddle East scholar, Colonel (Res.), former senior intelligence/research officer, Director of the Tami Steinmetz Center of Peace Studies, Tel Aviv University.Prof. Tamar HermanPublic opinion expert, expert on foreign policy and security, Open University and the Israel Democracy Institute.Prof. Yossi YonahProfessor of Philosophy of Education, Department of Education, Ben Gurion University.Prof. Moshe MaozProfessor Emeritus of Islamic and Middle Eastern Studies, expert on Syria, Truman Institute, Hebrew University of Jerusalem.Itamar Ya’arColonel (Res.). Management and national security advisor, former Deputy Director of the National Security Council.Bruno LandsbergFounder and chairman of the Sano Enterprises Ltd.Alon SchusterHead of Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council.Dr. Alla ShainskayaSenior scientist, Weizmann Institute of Science.Merav MichaeliJournalist and media figure, a feminist activist.Adina Bar ShalomFounder and President of the Haredi College of Jerusalem.Prof. Eyal ZisserMiddle East scholar, Dean of the Faculty of Humanities, Tel Aviv University.Shaul ArieliColonel (Res.), member of the Council for Peace and Security. Head of the Peace Administration in the Barak Administration.Prof. Shifra SagiProfessor of Educational Psychology and head of the Conflict Resolution and Management Program, Ben Gurion University.Israela OronBrigadier General (Res.). Former Deputy Director of the National Security Council.Avremi AdamovBusinessman and entrepreneur.Gilead SherColonel (Res.), attorney, former Head of the Prime Minister’s Bureau and Chief Negotiator with the Palestinians. Founding co-chairman of “Blue-White Future”.Orny PetruschkaHi-tech entrepreneur and social activist. Founding member of “Blue-White Future”.Avital GevaEducator, artist, social activist. Founder of the Ein Shemer Ecological Incubator.Prof. Jimmy WeinblattPProfessor of Economics, Ben Gurion University of the Negev. In 2010 appointed Rector of Sapir Academic College.Danny KaravanInternational artist, recipient of the Israel Prize.Mully DorChairman of the Executive Committee, Negev Institute for Strategies of Peace and Development (NISPED).Dr. Eva BergerDean of the School of Communications, Academic Track, College of Administration.Akiva EldarPolitical correspondent, member of the editorial board of Haaretz.Prof. Eyal BenvenistiProfessor, Faculty of Law, Tel Aviv University. Expert in international law.Att. Eti LivniFormer MK (Shinui), Deputy Speaker of the Knesset 2006–2008).Prof. Alex MintzDean of the School of Government, Diplomacy, and Strategy, Interdisciplinary Center, Herzliya.Rabbi Dr. Daniel HartmanPresident of the Shalom Hartman Institute, Engaging Israel project director.Dr. Mark HellerPrincipal Research Associate Institute for National Security Studies.Att. Aviv WassermanFounder and Director of the Lod Foundation.Dr. Gershon BaskinFounder and co-director of IPCRI (Israel Palestine Center for Research and Information).Yohanan BaynFormer ambassador to the UN between 1988-1990.Prof. Dan JacobsonProfessor of Organizational Behavior at Tel Aviv University, an expert in dealing with situations of individual unemployment, economic and political insecurity.Avner AzulayManaging Director of The Rich Foundations in Israel.Dr. Ilai AlonMiddle East scholar, expert on Islam at Tel Aviv University Interdisciplinary Center, Herzliya.Ophir Paz PinesFormer Knesset member and Minister in Israeli governments from 2005 to 2010.Avner KatzPainter, illustrator and a writer, recipient of the Israel Prize.Micha OlmanSculptor, recipient of the Israel Prize.Oren MagnezyFounder and Chairman of the Laurus Consulting Group, served as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s Advisor.Dr. Anat KurtzSenior scholar at the INSS (Institute for National Security Studies), an expert on Islamist terrorism.Prof. Gavriel SalomonProfessor of Education at the University of Haifa, recipient of the Israel Prize in education.Dr. Yoram HarpazEditor in chief of “Educating Thinking”, expert in education.Dr. Zvia WaldenDoctor of Linguistics.Prof. Rafi WaldenProfessor of Medicine, Vice – Director of the Sheba Hospital.

          • Drakken

            You keep quoting leftist Peace Now organizations like they carry any weight, they don’t, because reality is something folks like you will come to understand the hard way. You goofy leftist ignore history because it is uncomfortable to you and others of your ilk, then you try to put round pegs into square holes in a firm belief that they will fit. Appeasement with muslims, always without exception, leads to a butchers bill.

          • J.B.

            I think Anti-Americana is a leftie nutjob who married (or is involved with) a Psuedostinian scumbag and she converted to islam. It would be interesting to see if she admits it.

            Well, Anti-Americana? Do you admit it?

          • Americana

            There are an awful lot of higher ranking military than you who are peace advocates.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            And POTUS is also an appeaser. What’s your point?

          • Americana

            Are you just deliberately being obtuse or do you not know that remark of mine is about a long list of ISRAELI military? Scroll up until you find and read the list of Major Generals from the Israeli military and the directors of the Shin Bet and the Mossad who endorse the two-state solution. All of them have lived and fought through multiple Arab-Israeli wars. They know the lay of the land and they’ve got their tactical ducks in a row. They’re equally as equipped as Drakken to say what’s feasible and what isn’t.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Americana • 2 minutes ago: “Are you just deliberately being obtuse or do you not know that remark of mine is about a long list of ISRAELI military?”

            You missed my other comments I guess.

            “They know the lay of the land and they’ve got their tactical ducks in a row. They’re equally as equipped as Drakken to say what’s feasible and what isn’t.”

            Tactically yes. Strategically, possibly not.

          • Americana

            I’ll bet on the top-ranking Israeli military and intelligence guys any time. There’s a reason these Major Generals and the Mossad and Shin Bet Directors are speaking up now. Tactics and strategy are so intertwined they’ve almost synonymous. They wouldn’t endorse a solution without having both of those covered.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Americana • 2 minutes ago: “I’ll bet on the top-ranking Israeli military and intelligence guys any time.”
            For what?
            “There’s a reason these Major Generals and the Mossad and Shin Bet Directors are speaking up now. Tactics and strategy are so intertwined they’ve almost synonymous. They wouldn’t endorse a solution without having both of those covered.”

            It’s not that they’re unrelated. Strategy requires a greater scope of knowledge than tactics.

          • Drakken

            Maybe you might want to look up the Generals who say the exact opposite of the nonsense your advocating, peace my dear little hunyuk is not possible with the goddamn muslims.

          • Drakken

            And the long list of Generals and Ministers that are against a two state solution is ten times as long as your nice little peace now stupidity, wake up hunyuk and smell the coffee. Just because you believe in peace with all your heart and clicking those ruby red shoes together doesn’t make peace possible.

          • Drakken

            And there are 10 times as many who aren’t. Silly, ignorant, peace now stupidity on steroids always leads to nasty bloodshed later.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            You mean gullible useful idiots!

          • J.B.

            The islamopithecines are renewing caliphates in areas that they conquered and lost.

            Give it up, islamotard.

          • American Patriot

            In order to have peace, Hamas and other Islamist militant groups need to end their aggression against Israel. But Hamas doesn’t want to do that.

        • Americana

          Yeah, right. That’s why I nearly married a South African Jew who was interested in immigrating to Israel. Leonard then decided against it as his permanent home because he saw no signs that Israel was willing to truly seek peace and he thought it had political elements akin to South Africa… Not a Jew hater in the least. Jew WORRIER is more apt. I believe Israel is courting national disaster by her choices on the Palestinian score. And, yes, I’m WORRIED that she’ll pay a terrible price for her intransigence. You aren’t worried, fine. Continue to disagree.

          As for all the historical stuff about Muslim armies, that period of conquering was quelled. And it seems to be fairly permanent since they’re only taking over historically Muslim geographic range. And though this seems to have some of the same constituent parts, I doubt very much that the same balance of power is going to hold true when the jihadists come up against mechanized Western armies. No matter how much weaponry they manage to grab.

          • Bklyn Farmer

            “I’m WORRIED that she’ll (sic Israel) pay a terrible price”
            Nearly chucekd my lunch while reading that piece of unadulterated BS, your worried Israel will continue to exist. Stating such a bold face lie sbout your position, in the presence of your previous post says it sll sbout your credibility or lack thereof.

          • Americana

            Think what you want, BF. Your ignorance of the Israeli-Palestinian peace movements tells me that you’re not keeping abreast of both sides of the issue. And, if I don’t have a point about being concerned about Israel’s current settlement actions then why is it people’s responses here are that’s Israeli land anyway?

            Absolutely nothing I have written on the issue of Israeli-Palestinian peace possibilities has been exclusionary of anything else I’ve posted. I believe Israel is taking over land that should be part of a Palestinian state. By allowing settlements and all sorts of illegal buying of Palestinian land by Israeli private developers and individuals, Israel is being a de facto player in the continuing divestment of Palestinian land rights. You don’t see a problem w/that at Israel’s peril.

          • Drakken

            It is you who are bloody ignorant of how these goddamn sub human savages operate, how many bloody times do you have to be told, THERE WILL NEVER EVER BE PEACE WITH THE GODDAMN MUSLIMS! God help us all if ISIS gets a toe hold in Jordan.

          • Bklyn Farmer

            I can assure you my opinions are not a result of ignorance on my part and I am confident you are fully aware of your misstatements and fabrications. Peace process takes 2 sides and from the very beginning of modern Israel existence and actually even before the Arabs have consistently worked for its destruction. The latest poll attests to the Arab yearning for a 2nd holocaust:

            The poll, conducted by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, showed some interesting and, in part, contradictory results. Only 27.3 percent of Palestinians support a two-state solution. By contrast, more than two-thirds see the restoration of all of historic Palestine to Arab control as the only legitimate national goal for their people. Interestingly, of those who back the elimination of Israel, only one out of seven and 10.1 percent overall think it ought to be replaced by a single democratic state in which Jews and Arabs would have equal rights. What the other 60.3 percent who say that “reclaiming” all land from the river to the sea for the Arabs would do with the six million Jews who live there is left unclear. Just as interesting is the answer to the question as to what Palestinians should do if a two-state solution were somehow to be achieved by their leadership. Only 31.6 percent say that should mean the end of the conflict while 64 percent believe that even after that the struggle against Israel “should continue until all of historic Palestine is liberated.” Asked the same question in a slightly different way, 65.2 percent of the Palestinians think that if their leadership were to negotiate a two-state deal, “that would be part of a ‘program of stages’ to liberate all of historic Palestine later.”

          • Bklyn Farmer

            One addition point

            Yes, according to the PA it is illegal to sell land to Jews (as it was when the territory was under Jordanian jurisdiction) in fact it is a capital offense:
            A former Palestinian intelligence officer has reportedly been sentenced to death after it was revealed he had sold his home to Jews. Muhammad Abu Shahala, who worked for the Palestinian Authority reportedly confessed under torture to selling his home in Hebron on the West Bank to a Jewish man.

          • Americana

            That capital punishment for Palestinians is quite a recent development that was taken because so many Israelis were choosing to spread out into Palestinian areas.

          • Bklyn Farmer

            Wrong, it was the law of the land during the Ottoman Empire (suspended for a short period of time), reinstated by the British for majority of Transjordan, continued by the Jordanians and now adopted by the Palestinian Authority and rationalize by the extreme Western left.

          • Americana

            It might have been the law of the land for that period of time but how many people have actually been killed because of that law? Mighty few. Of course, this very public reinstatement is because of the unrelenting settlement pressure from Israelis. I don’t need to rationalize their insistence on reinstating the law, I just recognize that if they can’t defend their collective ownership of the land any other way and Israel shows every intention of dispossessing as much additional land as she can, the Palestinians have very few choices to fight the land grab.

          • Bklyn Farmer

            You just rationalize and justified law that if targeted any other enthnic group would be considered reprehensible. Thank you for clearly demonstrating the accuracy of my previous post : “now adopted by the Palestinian Authority and rationalize by the extreme Western left.”

          • Americana

            Why should it be reprehensible? The Israelis know they’re not supposed to be buying property in Palestinian areas. Just how do you think all this property has mistakenly been bought and sold? I’m not rationalizing anything when the law is that the land/property can’t be sold to Israelis or Jews because it’s going to be within the Palestinian state. If there are Jews/Israelis who are willing to give up their Israeli citizenship or take dual-citizenship, that’s another thing entirely. But to simply buy the property so the Israeli settlers can subvert the footprint of the Palestinian nation? Not on. I’d actually suggest that the Israelis courts prosecute both parties. Would you find that preferable?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “But to simply buy the property so the Israeli settlers can subvert the footprint of the Palestinian nation?”

            Oh please. You mean the one they declined in the 1940s? Kill any Jews that try to “subvert” the myth.

          • Bklyn Farmer

            How do you feel about extrapolating this idea to Blacks in America, Oh yeah, there was a time like this it was called bigotry

          • Americana

            If it were a comparable, analogous situation, it would be bigotry. But the Palestinians are doing this because they want to maintain their national footprint against Israeli infiltration prior to annexation of larger settlement blocs. It’s not bigotry if it’s a matter of preserving one’s nation. Otherwise, why would the Israelis refuse to allow Palestinians the right to buy land in Israel?

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Otherwise, why would the Israelis refuse to allow Palestinians the right to buy land in Israel?

            No one can buy land in Israel ignoramus.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “…the Palestinians have very few choices to fight the land grab.”

            Blame the other Muslim states.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Americana Bklyn Farmer • 3 hours ago

            “That capital punishment for Palestinians is quite a recent development…”

            Oh right. But you really mean recently codified.

            “..that was taken because so many Israelis were choosing to spread out into Palestinian areas.”

            Oh…now it makes sense. I guess it’s fine then. And Israel should reciprocate. Right?

          • Americana

            Oh, there are actually Palestinians who are getting away w/buying land in Israel? Boy, this must be a Haaretz or Jerusalem Post story that I’ve missed. Please post a link!

          • objectivefactsmatter

            What does Israel do when it happens?

            Generally speaking though, they don’t try. They prefer investing in weapons. Which is kind of the problem we’re getting at.

          • Americana

            http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Hebrew-U-survey-finds-most-Israelis-and-Palestinians-support-two-state-solution-336744

            Admittedly, this poll was taken in late 2013 since this story was published on Jan. 1, 2014, but you’ll note the differences between the two polls. The more Israel delays, the worse the situation becomes. Of course, you’ll note the sticking points, that the Palestinians want to continue to hold part of East Jerusalem. What are the sticking points that are deal breakers? That one along w/failing to recognize Israel.
            _____________________________________________________

            A majority of Israelis and Palestinians, 63 percent and 53%, respectively, support a two-state solution, according to a survey released on Tuesday.

            The survey, conducted by the Harry S. Truman Research Institute for the Advancement of Peace at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research in Ramallah, with the support of the Konrad Adenauer Stiftung in Ramallah and Jerusalem, addressed issues surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including expectations regarding a permanent settlement, threat perceptions and US foreign policy under the Obama administration.

            According to the findings, 54% of Israelis and 46% of Palestinians support a permanent- settlement package along the lines of the Clinton parameters proposed on December 23, 2000, which included a divided Jerusalem, a Palestinian state in the entirety of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip except for several large blocs of settlements, and a demilitarized Palestinian state. These findings represent an increase in Palestinian support, up from 43%, and a decrease in Israeli support, down from 56%, for such a deal compared to that reported by a similar poll in December 2012.

            Furthermore, 47% of the Israelis support, and 48% oppose, the dismantling of most of the settlements in the West Bank as part of a peace agreement with the Palestinians. Only 43% of Palestinians, compared to 58% of Israelis, agreed to mutual recognition as part of a permanent-status agreement after all issues in the conflict are resolved and a Palestinian state is established.

            The poll also addressed the attitudes and perceptions toward the increased US involvement in the Israeli- Palestinian conflict.

            According to the findings, 23% of Israelis believe the Obama administration’s policy is more supportive of Israel, 28% believe it is more supportive of the Palestinians, and 40% believe it is equally supportive of both sides.

            This marked a significant increase in the Israeli belief that US policy is more supportive of Israel or balanced under Obama compared to previous polls; in December 2009, only 13% of Israelis believed US policy was more supportive, 40% thought it more supportive of Palestinians and 37% found it equally supportive. Similarly in August 2009, the relevant percentages were 12%, 40%, and 23%, respectively.

            Nevertheless only 39% of Israelis respondents said an increased US role in the Israeli- Palestinian conflict would be successful, while 29% said it would be a failure. Compared to a September 2009 poll, there is a slight decline in expectations of US involvement, 42% and 30% respectively.

            Along the same lines, 41% of Israelis said Israel should yield to American pressure if the US, under the Obama’s leadership, pressures it to accept a two-state solution, and 43% of said Israel should reject such pressure. While 37% of Palestinians support yielding to US pressure to accept the Clinton/Geneva Initiative-permanent settlement proposals, 59% believe Palestinians should reject such pressure.

            Despite majority support for a two-state solution, there remains a great deal of mistrust, mainly on the Palestinian side. According to the poll, 60% of Palestinians believe Israel’s goals are to extend its borders to cover the entire area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea and to expel its Arab citizens, while 24% think the goals are to annex the West Bank while denying political rights to the Palestinians.

            On the Israeli side, 34% think the Palestinians aspire in the long run to conquer Israel and destroy much of the Jewish population in Israel; and 21% think the goal of the Palestinians is just to conquer Israel.

          • Bklyn Farmer

            The indoctrination of hatred the Palestinians have bestowed to their children would put to shame the Hitler Youth. The problem with the Palestinian intolerance of a Jewish state is not fluid as you try to suggesy but just the opposite, no Jewish state, never is the Arab montra.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “On the Israeli side, 34% think the Palestinians aspire in the long run to conquer Israel and destroy much of the Jewish population in Israel; and 21% think the goal of the Palestinians is just to conquer Israel.”

            Because polling hostile factions has always been so fruitful in the past.

            Did we poll the Nawzis in the early 1940s to see what kind of deals we needed to make in order to “achieve a peace agreement?” What would Hitler have told us? The same kind of sweet words he had earlier for Chamberlain is what I’m guessing.

            Some times you leftists are just so stupid it amazes me.

            WTF is a hudna?

          • Americana

            Oh, then share this remark w/Brooklyn Farmer, would you? If you think it’s stupid to conduct such polls because of the hostilities, surely it’s stupid for both warring factions to conduct polls or submit to answering polls from whatever organization is offering to poll them?

          • ObamaYoMoma

            WTF is a hudna?

            It’s a temporary truce Muslims make with infidels when they are at a disadvantage that they plan to violate later on when the timing is ripe. It is based on Muhammad’s infamous Treaty of Hudaibiya with the Meccans that he later violated to destroy them after he had gained the upper hand. In other words, Muslims never ever make truces with infidels unless they are at a serious disadvantage. Then once they perceive themselves as regaining the upper hand, they always violate them as they intended.

            Indeed, it was a Hudna that Arafat made with that gullible useful idiot, Bill Clinton, for the creation of the Palestinian Authority in 1993 and which also allowed him to return from exile in Tunisia to the disputed territories in Israel to head it. It was also a Hudna that he began violating almost immediately. As a matter of fact, Arafat was caught on several occasions explaining in Arabic to various groups of Muslims that he had made his treaty with Bill Clinton only in the spirt of Muhammad’s infamous Treaty of Hudaibiya. In other words, he always intended to violate it from the get go.

          • Bklyn Farmer

            According to a 2013 Pew Research Poll 62% of Palestinians think suicide bombing (remember that their target is always Jewish citizen) is often/sometimes justified. Doesn’t sound to me like a viable Peace partner to me.

          • J.B.

            Just because you suck some repulsive Pali’s lmp little d—, that doesn’t mean “Palestinians” are a real people or that they deserve to steal land from Israel. Go stop a clock, mutt face.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Absolutely nothing I have written on the issue of Israeli-Palestinian peace possibilities has been exclusionary of anything else I’ve posted.

            What possibilities? There are no possibilities for Israel to ever make peace with the Islamic totalitarian world other than by surrendering itself into harsh and degrading dhimmitude. Thus, the only peace possible for Israel is the same as the only peace possible for us, and that involves the total and complete annihilation of the Islamic totalitarian world.

            I believe Israel is taking over land that should be part of a Palestinian state.

            The conflict has never been over land Israelis allegedly acquired illegally, as that is just a stupid pretext to dupe gullible useful idiot moonbats like you to justify the jihad the Islamic totalitarian world is waging perpetually through its so-called Palestinian proxies against the Jewish infidels in Israel.

            By allowing settlements and all sorts of illegal buying of Palestinian land by Israeli private developers and individuals, Israel is being a de facto player in the continuing divestment of Palestinian land rights. You don’t see a problem w/that at Israel’s peril.

            More hogwash!

          • Drakken

            Ask your husband how turning SA over to the savages has worked? That is exactly what you want to do with Israel. Useful idiots of peace now like you openly call for your own demise, your going to have to forgive us as we say not only no, but fu** no!

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Yeah, right. That’s why I nearly married a South African Jew who was interested in immigrating to Israel.

            The only reason you nearly married a South African Jew in your own delusional mind is so you can nonchalantly accuse Israel of somehow being an apartheid state, even though approximately 20 percent of Israel’s current population consist of Muslims. Now, of course, those Muslims living in Israel live in Muslim enclaves and Muslim no-go zones exactly like they also do in all infidel states around the world, but that manifestation is beyond the control of Israel’s government, exactly like it is also beyond the control of all the countries’ government in which mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage that is really non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad for the nefarious purposes of mass Muslim infiltration and eventual demographic conquest is currently occurring, which is every country in the world with the single exception of Japan, as Japan apparently is the lone sane country in the world where Islam is concerned.

            Leonard then decided against it as his permanent home because he saw no signs that Israel was willing to truly seek peace and he thought it had political elements akin to South Africa…

            In other words, ole Leonard here is a self-hating Jew. In that case, I don’t blame him for not moving to Israel, because if he would have moved to Israel, he would have discovered that Israel is not an apartheid state, however, at the same time he would have also learned that all Islamic totalitarian states in the world are apartheid states and far worse.

            I believe Israel is courting national disaster by her choices on the Palestinian score.

            How? By not to agreeing to render itself into harsh and degrading dhimmitude?

            And, yes, I’m WORRIED that she’ll pay a terrible price for her intransigence.

            Tell us, what could be worse than harsh and degrading dhimmitude? Death? Death is a far better option than harsh and degrading dhimmitude I’m afraid.

          • Americana

            I’ve never suggested Israel is an apartheid state. I level quite different charges against Israel. Don’t cheat and try to add to my burdensome list of Israeli hate crimes.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Don’t cheat and try to add to my burdensome list of Israeli hate crimes.”

            You don’t need that kind of help.

          • Drakken

            There is more of your goofy lefty thought process on display, the use of the words justice and hate crimes is a dead giveaway.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            You lie just like the so-called Palestinian proxies you apologize for.

          • J.B.

            The only “historically muslim geographic range” (sic) is Medina. Spare us your Hamas/PA advocacy. Everybody here knows that islam is pure evil and that the riff raff calling themselves Palestinians are the scum of the Earth.

          • Alain

            Yes, and let us not forget that “Palestinians” is a make-believe, invented people. It was on the advice of the KGB that the Arabs coined the term for themselves. Prior to that Palestinian was the adjective referred for the Jews who never left their ancestral homeland. In either case, there never was a land, a culture and a people called Palestine; a term invented by the Romans when they conquered the Jewish homeland for a period of time. Furthermore out of this “Palestine” was carved Trans-Jordan, now called Jordan, so the Arabs already have their “homeland”.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “Those who are selling this whole-world Caliphate are selling it for one reason only — because it serves to hide the WHY behind another Muslim/infidel situation, that of Israel and the Palestinians.”

        You really are full of bullshit.

        • Americana

          Oh, so there’s no connection to the 50+ year Palestinian jihad and its publicity (being CONSTANTLY in the news and eventually starting up all these social media outlets) and their tactical choices causing other jihads and causing other jihads to gain momentum? The Palestinians chose initially small targets and they moved onto larger and LARGER and LARGER targets to make their point. The Palestinian jihad had a HUGE BEARING on all these other world jihads coming into being because of how frequently the Palestinians were in the world news for horrific attacks. Whether Jews and Zionists want to face that fact or not, it’s historically accurate. It’s not Jew hatred to point that out. It’s simply history.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Oh, so there’s no connection to the 50+ year Palestinian jihad and its publicity (being CONSTANTLY in the news and eventually starting up all these social media outlets) and their tactical choices causing other jihads and causing other jihads to gain momentum?”

            Connections? Sure. I’m not sure what you’re referring to but I’m getting fed up and when my own president joins the jihadis, that get’s me fired up to spend time fighting back.

            What are you implying specifically?

            “The Palestinians chose initially small targets and they moved onto larger and LARGER and LARGER targets to make their point.”

            Are you high? They were trained and supplied by the Egyptians and the Soviets. They did what they were told for the first few years and then their respective egos took over.

            “The Palestinian jihad had a HUGE BEARING on all these other world jihads coming into being because of how frequently the Palestinians were in the world news for horrific attacks.”

            Not really, It makes for a great rallying cry, but what encourages them is winning. When they see the West caving in, they get encouraged. So…where does that put you in the great jihad?

            “Whether Jews and Zionists want to face that fact or not, it’s historically accurate.”

            Which “fact” is that?

            “It’s not Jew hatred to point that out. It’s simply history.”

            Jew hatred on whose part?

          • Americana

            Oh, the RUSSIANS told the Palestinian jihadists to take out passenger jets? Really, you want to hold that against the Russians? The more you try to twist my words, the messier and more awkward your whole tangled conspiracy theory gets. As for the “West caving in and them getting encouraged” by that, why should we maintain the world on a knife’s edge? Why shouldn’t we expect that Israel and the Palestinians attempt a peace treaty before throwing in the towel and saying we’ve got to maintain this knife’s edge for the foreseeable future? You’re simply in denial about the Palestinian jihad spawning other jihads round the world.

            What has happened w/the news and the Palestinian jihad is very simple in reality. When smaller-scale Palestinian jihadi actions had failed to secure a Palestinian state, the Palestinian militants began choosing larger targets. The first big action could possibly be considered to be the massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics. Perhaps the next really big step up could be considered the bombing of the Lockerbie Pan-Am flight. All these horrific actions garnered much frantic media attention. The Palestinian jihadis vied amongst themselves to come up w/the next big thing. When social media came along, they dove into it w/a vengeance and began serious recruitment and public relations pushes. At this point, the reliance upon the news media to drive the jihad effort changed completely.

          • J.B.

            Many Westerners are jihad deniers but you are a jihad excuser. What a traitorous piece of $hit you are. Just admit you convered to islam.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            fellow traveler noun

            : someone who is traveling in the same group or on the same train, airplane, etc., as you

            : someone who shares the opinions and beliefs of the people in a group or organization (especially the Communist Party) but does not belong to that group or organization

            Full Definition of FELLOW TRAVELER

            : a person who sympathizes with and often furthers the ideals and program of an organized group (as the Communist party) without membership in the group or regular participation in its activities; broadly : a sympathetic supporter of another’s cause

            — fel·low–trav·el·ing adjective

            See fellow traveler defined for English-language learners »

            Examples of FELLOW TRAVELER

            I struck up a conversation with one of my fellow travelers.

            He was not a member of the Communist Party or even afellow traveler.

            Origin of FELLOW TRAVELER

            translation of Russian poputchik

            First Known Use: 1925

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Oh, the RUSSIANS told the Palestinian jihadists to take out passenger jets? Really, you want to hold that against the Russians?”

            They were involved long before that. I never said that they did or they didn’t. I don’t think they did, but it’s not totally implausible.

            They were trained and supplied by the Egyptians and the Soviets. They did what they were told for the first few years and then their respective egos took over.

            “The more you try to twist my words, the messier and more awkward your whole tangled conspiracy theory gets.”

            Really? You think it’s just a theory that Egypt and the Soviets set up the PLO and other “Arab” terror organizations? Really?

            “As for the “West caving in and them getting encouraged” by that, why should we maintain the world on a knife’s edge?”

            I didn’t advocate that. There are more than two options.

            “Why shouldn’t we expect that Israel and the Palestinians attempt a peace treaty before throwing in the towel and saying we’ve got to maintain this knife’s edge for the foreseeable future?”

            They’ve already tried. It’s the “peace” camp that’s forcing the knife edge by allowing the facade to be maintained. Without the lies you and other support, we’d probably be closer to a reality-based solution already and might have already established peace in the region.

            “You’re simply in denial about the Palestinian jihad spawning other jihads round the world.”

            I’m not in denial. It’s just not a root cause. It’s a visible rallying point and people like you amplify this rather than help solve the root problems.

            “What has happened w/the news and the Palestinian jihad is very simple in reality. When smaller-scale Palestinian jihadi actions had failed to secure a Palestinian state, the Palestinian militants began choosing larger targets. The first big action could possibly be considered to be the massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics. Perhaps the next really big step up could be considered the bombing of the Lockerbie Pan-Am flight. All these horrific actions garnered much frantic media attention. The Palestinian jihadis vied amongst themselves to come up w/the next big thing. When social media came along, they dove into it w/a vengeance and began serious recruitment and public relations pushes. At this point, the reliance upon the news media to drive the jihad effort changed completely.”

            The simple part you describe is indeed simple.

          • Americana

            The Russians played a particular kind of role in assisting the Palestinians. Basically, you’ve just agreed w/me that very soon after their involvement, the Palestinians went on their merry way and did what they wanted to do. Why? Because the Palestinians knew full well that having the Russians be in charge of their operations would compromise their political aims. I’m very sure the Palestinians happily accepted whatever intelligence was offered and whatever armaments were offered but beyond that, I don’t see the Russians playing any hugely significant role.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Americana • 23 minutes ago: “The Russians played a particular kind of role in assisting the Palestinians. Basically, you’ve just agreed w/me that very soon after their involvement, the Palestinians went on their merry way and did what they wanted to do.”

            That was never in dispute.

            “Why? Because the Palestinians knew full well that having the Russians be in charge of their operations would compromise their political aims.”

            Really? The Soviets were not interested in restoring a caliph? That’s news to me. Let me check my notes…

            Oh, I actually did know that.

            “I’m very sure the Palestinians happily accepted whatever intelligence was offered and whatever armaments were offered but beyond that, I don’t see the Russians playing any hugely significant role.”

            And? This is evidence that Israel is the root cause of “injustice” against the “Palestinians” that energizes the regional and global sharia movement? Israel is simply the most visible indicator of their weakness and loss of status relative to their historical peak. It’s about winning. Israel is merely the chief salient at this moment in the 14 century civilizational religious war.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Well it’s very obvious you are not the brightest bulb in the lot, but you are nonetheless very hilarious. The above is absolutely hysterical.

          • Americana

            You’re one of the more jazzed up members of the heavy weapons crowd. How proud you must be… Insane but, nonetheless, proud as all get out.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            You really mean one of the most rational, sane, and realistic posters on these boards.

          • Americana

            No, I don’t mean that otherwise I would have written that.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            You’re one of the most deluded posters to have ever grace this place. As a matter of fact, you are so obsessed with apologizing for the so-called Palestinians, that you believe that the so-called Palestinian-Israeli Conflict is really the root cause behind the entire Global Jihad, even though the Global Jihad has been waged perpetually since shortly after the Hijra in 622 AD and long before Israel ever came back into existence.

            You are so twisted that you blame and demonize Israel instead of who is actually responsible for inadvertently killing innocent civilians in self-defense, while at the same time so-called Palestinians, like all Muslims around the world, specifically target innocent civilians because it is the weak under belly of Israel.

            However, the harsh reality is there are no innocent civilians in Islamic society, as waging jihad in one form or another, either violently or non-violently, against infidels to ultimately make Islam supreme is a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims, including women and children. Which is not only why Muslims don’t have any qualms about using women and children as suicide/homicide bombers, but also why Muslims always specifically target innocent civilian infidels, not only in Israel, but also all around the world as well.

            As a matter of fact, while Israelis legally always abide by Geneva Conventions, Muslims, on the other hand, always only abide by Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law) because they believe it is divine law that supersedes all manmade laws. It’s also the reason why we always traditionally see mass executions of infidels by Muslims anytime they gain the upper hand.

            To make a long story short, you are one of the most gullible useful idiots to ever grace FPM, and the ironic part about it is because you are also an infidel, the so-called Palestinians you are so addicted to apologizing for, would just as soon slit your throat as look at you.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            50+ years is a small drop in the bucket compared to the almost 1400 years of continuous global jihad to ultimately make Islam supreme. Moreover, the jihad being waged by the Islamic totalitarian world through their so-called Palestinian proxies against the Jewish infidels in Israel is not in any way significantly different from the many other perpetual jihads Muslims are waging around the world against various infidels also to ultimately make Islam supreme.

            Indeed, in every one of them, the Muslim jihadists ignore Geneva Conventions because they emanate from man, and instead employ only total war tactics per the dictates of Sharia. In other words, because there are no innocent civilians in Islam, since all Muslims are obligated to wage jihad in one form or another, per the dictates of Islam, including women and children, Muslim jihadists specifically target innocent civilian infidels because they know it is our weak underbelly. Meanwhile, infidels fight back with one hand tied behind their back, by strictly adhering to the Geneva Conventions.

      • Drakken

        I can’t wait until Israel stomps the living daylights out of those bloody savages, it will be a great day indeed. You think that by appeasing these goddamn savages in fakestine that the muslim problem will suddenly all go away. You haven’t paid attention to what is happening al over the muslim world. Jihad will one way or another come to the western world with a vengeance, and peace now useful idiots like you will do anything and everything to appease and bow before them. Darwin is going to absolutely love you.

        • Americana

          Jihad is not coming to the Western world on the one on one scale for a long, long time… despite signs of friction in the meantime. I don’t believe Israel will stomp the living daylights out of those Palestinians without first first attempting to do the right thing but I guess we’ll see.

          South Africa is an economic catastrophe which is sociologically entirely different from what is going on in Islam. Or do you have a problem w/uneducated black populations who’ve been used as cheap labour for white supremacists that can’t suddenly become independent and financially successful?

          • Drakken

            I have a huge problem that now those uneducated blacks have now taken over a viable functioning Govt and are turning into Rhodesia on steroids. When the Boer’s and Brits ran SA, it was a great country, now? It’s regressing.
            You haven’t been to Europe Hunyuk, so take yourself a real nice gander of cities like Bonn, Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris before you talk out of your backside, yet gain. No jihad coming to a city near you? Yeah ok Sparky, denial ain’t a river in Egypt.

          • Americana

            That’s because they were only taking care of a few million white people in a few cities. As for the uneducated blacks, there have been a fairly significant number of black millionaires who’ve arisen in SA. Will it take awhile to grub its way out of the economic morass into which it was purposely dumped by the whites? Certainly.

          • Drakken

            Funny how those black millionaires take from the white taxpayer. Take a look around Africa for a glimpse as to how SA will be when the blacks get it done right.

          • American Patriot

            Not to rain on your parade but the British and the Boers weren’t exactly friends with each other. If I remember correctly, they fought a set of wars against each other for full control of South Africa during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Ultimately, the British won because they had more technological resources and they ended up taking over the whole country. One of the foreign policy goals of South Africa’s apartheid regime was to get rid of British influence in the country. In fact, some National Party politicians objected to having the Union Jack designed within the flag that South Africa used between 1928 and 1994 because they believed that it represented “British dominance” and “arrogance”. So, the British and the Boers weren’t buddies. It was actually the opposite.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “So, the British and the Boers weren’t buddies. It was actually the opposite.”

            He didn’t say anything about them being aligned in any way other than implying that they were superior governors.

          • American Patriot

            All right. Thanks for clarifying.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Actually, South Africa is an economic disaster because it has become overrun by Marxist totalitarians. Indeed, Marxism is the other scourge in the world.

          • J.B.

            Jihad has already conquered the UK. Spare us your crude taqiya. And South Africa’s woes are entirely due to its Black majority, just like islamic countries are crapholes because of their religious majorities. The only difference is that there is hope for the equally violent and mentally deficient Black racists in South Africa to improve.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Anyone aligned with the left can only bring destruction.

        • Webb

          The best part of Mericunta ran down her mother’s leg. She needs to be dropped off in Gaza before she’ll ever understand.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Those who are selling this whole-world Caliphate are selling it for one reason only — because it serves to hide the WHY behind another Muslim/infidel situation, that of Israel and the Palestinians.

        While I haven’t heard anyone mention a worldwide Caliphate yet, I have heard plenty of paranoid neo-cons screaming that the goal of ISIS is to carve out an Islamic Caliphate that inevitably will become a terrorist haven, (only Muslims aren’t terrorists), and a terrorists training camp to launch terrorist attacks against America. But what is an Islamic Caliphate? It’s just another Islamic Sharia State, i.e., another backwards assed Islamic totalitarian hellhole. Thus, if those idiots are dumb enough to attempt to launch violent jihad attacks (Muslims aren’t terrorists) against us, then all we have to do is pound it into sand.

        Meanwhile, the goal of jihad is not to create a Caliphate. The goal of jihad instead is to make Islam supreme throughout the world.

        As for as Israel and the so-called Palestinians go, the so-called Palestinians are the proxies of the Islamic totalitarian world, who is waging jihad to make Islam supreme throughout the world not only against the Jewish infidels in Israel, but also against all infidels throughout the world. Moreover, the only solution for Israel’s jihad problem is also the only solution for the entire infidel world’s collective jihad problem, and that is to defeat Islam, either by killing all Muslims to eliminate Islam, or otherwise rendering the Islamic totalitarian world into total abject poverty and then isolating it. Of the two options, I prefer the latter although it is far more risky, because it is far less bloody and violent. Which option do you prefer?

        If the whole-world Caliphate were truly the aim of most Muslims we’d already be in the religious fight of our lives against BILLIONS of Muslims instead of thousands.

        Actually, it’s not their aim. Their aim instead is to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world through jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, i.e., Islamic totalitarian law. The Caliphate thing is just more fantasy based nonsense emitted by paranoid neo-cons. Moreover, I wouldn’t call a so-called religion you can’t quit or speak out against without being executed a religion, but then again thankfully I’m not you.

        This is tragic for any number of reasons but the ultimate tragedy is they are allowing Israel to evade true peace negotiations and that they believe this will be a successful strategy going forward until such time as the Palestinians are exiled from the region.

        Apparently, you are not only in full out denial mode with respect to Islam’s perpetual jihad to ultimately make itself supreme, you are also incredibly delusional regarding the Islamic totalitarian world’s jihad it is waging perpetually via its so-called Palestinian proxies against the Jewish infidels in Israel. Nevertheless, Israel’s only viable solution to its jihad problem is again the same as our only viable solution to our collective infidel world’s jihad problem, and that is to collectively destroy Islam utterly. Indeed, united we stand, divided we fall!

      • J.B.

        More of your anti-Israel, pro Psuedostinian BS. “Hide the jihad” is code for blaming islamic terrorism against Jews on the victims. Go F yourself, you scum ducking islamotard.

      • Bklyn Farmer

        ” Those who are selling this whole-world Caliphate are selling it for one reason only” now your resorting to the Protocols Elders of Zion nut case conspiracy theory, I thought you were better than that, obviously I was mistaken.

      • Jack Diamond

        This poster will steer every conversation about Islam and Jihad to Israel, as if global jihad springs from the Palestinian “issue” and will evaporate when the matter is settled justly, i.e. to the Palestinians satisfaction–from the river to the sea. When two million were killed in Sudan by the (Islamic Republic) North attempting to impose a Shari’a state it had nothing to do with Israel but everything to do with Jihad. From Pakistan to Thailand to Nigeria. It is not about Israel, or even American foreign policy, but Islam and for reasons of Islam. A modern resurgence of Islam brought about by the transfer of trillions in oil-wealth, and no other reason, since 1973.

        There are not “billions” of Muslims but there are tens of millions in Europe performing “hijra” instead of assimilating, with inevitably devastating consequences for the West and political dhimmitude for their governments coupled with an unending OIC-led campaign to impose Islamic blasphemy laws upon the free world–side by side with the unending propaganda campaign delegitimizing and demonizing Israel; there have been 23,000+ lethal Islamic terror attacks since 9/11 worldwide with the wealthiest Islamic STATES funding and arming proxy fighters in Allah’s cause and, always, their clerics giving it religious sanction; we now have a nascent jihadist state from the al Qaeda offshoot ISIS and will soon be facing a nuclear terrorist state, Iran–but to you this is all an Islamophobic terrorist buildup of emotions against Muslims leading to roundups and concentration camps no doubt because of fictitious (and Zionist-fueled?) paranoia. Meanwhile, in the real world, Christians are being massacred and “cleansed” from Muslim majority lands and shari’a, not the Bill of Rights, is the stated goal of the Muslim World (the voices that matter). The terrorist buildup of emotions comes from them, fueled by the Qur’an and Sunnah, predating the creation of modern Israel by 1400 years (though seething with Jew-hatred from the beginning).

    • Wolfthatknowsall

      Black ops … use the weapons of the enemy against them, to keep Shia and Sunni at each others’ throats.

    • Tom Winegar

      The smartest thing for Israel was excepting a nuclear arsenal from the U.S. decades ago, now all they need are a neutron arsenal to clear the Gaza and West Bank before looking outside of their borders.

      • Americana

        You really think the U.S. would countenance nuclear strikes? Not in this lifetime unless something highly unusual happens… Nuclear talk like this is highly dangerous and inflammatory.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “Nuclear talk like this is highly dangerous and inflammatory.”

          I think you’re pager just went off. You’re needed somewhere in the Middle East right now. How’s your Farsi?

      • Fritz

        They never accepted a Nuclear Arsenal from the U.S, they built their own nukes. Sorry to burst your bubble but contrary to a lot of 1960s science fiction a neutron bomb is not the efficient death ray many people think it is, you still end up with a large blast and you still end up with a fireball and fallout. You really have no clue as to the layout of Israel do you? The whole country, West Bank and Gaza included, is the size of the state of New Jersey, touch off one nuke inside Israel and you would destroy half the country.
        I’ve read some of your comments in the past and you seem to have a disturbingly casual attitude of approval towards ethnocentrism, ethnic cleansing, and genocide.

  • RogerDane

    Americans are ‘cultured’ (well, in some areas), ‘sophisticated’ (comparatively , ‘technically savvy’ (iPads, iPhones, etc) but morally bankrupt and deeply lacking in attentive common sense. America is doomed because ‘social virtue’ (and the encompassing behaviors) is missing or dead and our children and grandchildren, while they will not experience the wonder of freedom, employment, advancements and accountable government (that so many baby-boomers did), will for the most part not miss it! Distracted and dumbed down, all those Founder’s wisdom will pass like ships in the night and ‘jihad’ violence will engulf the West suddenly… resulting in some form of socialistic restrictions (perhaps under long term martial law). As the economy heads further south, a greatly diminished revenue base will curtail entitlements (as Margaret said, “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money”) and then the “fiscal jihad” will hit as our ‘third world citizenry’ acts up because they don’t get their hand outs. It is unclear whether we’ll see the fiscal implosion first or the alternative terror attacks but we’ve “land mined” ourselves into a corner and there is no pleasant way out!
    All be safe.

    • Michael Garfinkel

      Quite frankly, the West seems frozen in place, even stupefied by the unremitting viciousness of the Islamic assault.

      The gleeful slaughter of the innocents continues apace, from Beslan to New York, to London, Madrid, Jerusalem, and Mosul, Ad infinitum.

      Obama and the Democrats are hopeless; they will leave office having severely weakened the United States.

      As night follows day, there will be a third attempt to inflict catastrophic destruction in New York City.

      It will involve a nuclear weapon.

      • knowshistory

        we can only hope. a nuclear attack is the only thing that will wake up the American ignorati

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          I prefer a nuclear attack on mecca – during the hajj.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        Obama and the Democrats are hopeless; they will leave office having severely weakened the United States.

        And that is their purpose. This is the “fundamental transformation” that Obama seeks. The Left sees America as the last great colonial power, and the nation must be brought to heel, and after much soul-searching, enter the “community of nations”. To them, no nation is exceptional. Only the “community” is exceptional.

        They may be making a mistake in producing a weakened America. A nuclear burst in one of our cities (most likely, New York, as you say) would wonderfully concentrate the attention of the American people. Leftists might have to run for their lives.

        • Camilla Brieste

          Hi Wolf. “And that is their purpose. This is the “fundamental transformation” that Obama seeks.” At least Krauthammer came somewhat close in a limited broad sense to echo this opinion earlier this week I believe. America’s decline is not a decline of condition but a decline of choice.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zt9GDUsJQ4

          It has been quite frustrating to read hundreds of individuals’ commentaries throughout the internet-based news sites which indicates most people are still expecting Obama to do the things a President usually does. That he has the compass and intentions that a traditional president has. They’re not aware that there are so many other agendas and strategies in play, or even at minimum that Alinsky, Ayers, et al are in play. McCain, Romney, refused to “walk into the fire”…do you think that anyone on the Right will be willing to walk into the fire before 2014 elections? We have such a woefully uninformed voting public. I fear for US safety if we don’t take back the Senate and take back our power to protect ourselves.

          As always, appreciate your commentaries/insights very much.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Thank you, Camilla, for the kind words.

            US safety is in peril, because we have a president who is … in his words … “fundamentally uncomfortable with the concept of victory”. If FDR had said this in 1941, he would have not been elected for his final term in office.

            This brings up the fundamental change in Americans, over the last few decades, but especially, since Obama has been in office. That he could say that he was uncomfortable with the concept of victory in Afghanistan, and be re-elected, shows a serious disconnect between the harsh realities of the world, and the view of the world that Americans have.

            Note that Mr. Obama is trying to increase that disconnect by opening the southern border and increasing the number illegal “immigrants”, in the nation. These are people who do not share our values, our principles, and our beliefs.

            At this time … although I don’t know much about his positions on foreign or military policy (which are of paramount importance, to me) … I am financially backing Dr. Ben Carson, just to keep his potential candidacy alive. I would be very happy with a Ted Cruz candidacy, also.

            In addition, although this will cause me grief, on this website, I am a big fan of Mike Huckabee, because I know him personally, and I know how far to the right he truly is.

            I don’t believe she will ever run again, but I backed Michelle Bachman, in the 2012 Primaries.

          • Camilla Brieste

            I appreciate your comprehensive reply Wolf. I also like Ben Carson; I hung on his every word at the Breakfast Prayer meeting, and marveled at his bravery, given the audience :>) I also have great respect for Huckabee; but fear that is not where the donations would go. I add Cruz and Allan West. We really desperately need more individuals of courageous stature to not only get back on track but to get people excited about the sanity that can be regained by honestly well-intentioned (credentialed) leaders. I lament the loss of “justice for all”. Which is a tenant I always thought evident with previous leaders. For all of the constant PC correctness propaganda in play, it has excluded fairness or mercy for anyone on the right and there is not enough said, or indignation evident in the news about that. One has the feeling that with our favorite 4, there would again be justice for all.

            This orchestrated event of thousands coming across the border is only another piece of the strategy to humiliate Americans (who I firmly believe he loathes) and further weaken the US financially. I think that Soros should pick up the tab. I am sorry to have learned that he has such extensive input into American policy. You are so right that those coming across the borders do not share our values and who can even guess what others have also come alongside them. And it is those that I fear the most for the upheaval, civil unrest they may cause, further frightening the American citizens to be uncomfortable in their own neighborhoods. I have a friend in Los Angeles, lives in a nice neighborhood, says he has become wary to travel to areas that he used to frequent routinely.

            “Uncomfortable with victory in Afghanistan”, shameful language for a President of the U.S., but I guess it works in a Banana Republic that’s really just focused on “social issues”.

            Thanks Wolf!

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            You’re welcome!

            Now, Allen West is someone whom I inadvertently forgot, in my list of “possibles”. I admire his great courage, his service to country, and the depth of his understanding of the issues facing the country.

          • Camilla Brieste

            Thank you for your footnote. We’ve settled on a favorite 5 … there is definitely hope for the future with any one of them! (Although “hope AND change”, will into perpetuity have an unpleasant implication.)

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            Agreed!

          • Drakken

            Sorry to say Wolfy, but Dr. Carson is way to nice for the political area, we need someone like Cruz who isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty.

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            I agree with you on the personality of Dr. Carson, Drak. My purpose in supporting him is to keep his potential candidacy alive.

            With Cruz, he not only isn’t afraid of getting his hands dirty, he has a world-class education, and would completely overshadow Hitlery in any debate.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Carson would be an ideal VPOTUS.

        • Hktony

          Not Obama and democrats but also the republicans! They could do something but they don’t . The American and now European new god , ‘ Saudi money ‘ is king. Money, money , money makes the multicultural ideology more palatable for the policy makers. The welfare state then keeps the dumb and dumber quiet and the middle class just keep mowing their lawns. Islam just keeps taking over, the rich keep counting their money and the rest keep sleeping until one day your head will roll down the high street because Shari’s has arrived and it’s too late to do anything about it. The rich will suffer too but it won’t matter because the country is lost! Greed because we lost our morality! Death because we could no longer see right from wrong. Odumbo and merkel and the like are traitors but no one stops them. Perhaps Putin and the Chinese will stand up fot the wests common man. I wouldn’t but they may need to in orders to save themselves in the long run!

          • Wolfthatknowsall

            I agree with you, to this extent …

            Saudi oil money is king because the president and his toadies in the Senate will not allow the development of our own resources, the building of new refineries (not one has been built since the 1970s), or the export of any of these resources to our allies. America and Canada could literally flood the world with low-cost energy, which would send the oil kings and sheikhs of the Middle East back to the deserts.

            It’s a lack of foresight. In some cases, it’s a purposeful lack of foresight, if not outright treason.

          • Drakken

            We are far from lost, this is only the beginning, no doubt Darwin will get his due from the weak, but the strong because action will be required, will rise to the cream of the crop because it is tucked away in their DNA to do so when the going gets tough. Make no mistake, this is going to get extremely bloody before all is said and done.

      • mollysdad

        If it will involve a nuclear weapon, then I expect that a US response will involve a similar attack on Mecca and Medina.

        The next agenda item will be to give Muslims 24 hours to change their religion. If they don’t, then the US will start in Morocco and work its way east.

        • 1Indioviejo1

          Why not check out your neiborhoods for Muslims?

        • J.B.

          If only.

  • Underzog

    As someone who has seen the power of denial firsthand, I can tell you it is a serious problem when facing evil. And the damage that people in denial do; e.g., Stockholm Syndrome, blaming the victim, blathering nonsensical things at the victim because they are afraid of the perpetrator; etc. If those in denial interfere with the attempts to stop the terrorists, then maybe they should be dealt with, too. Those in denial really know that Islam is terroristic and brutal.

  • Gee

    All they need to do is listen to us. We told them and they ignored our intelligence.

  • Docs357

    There’s nothing to worry about They have two escape plans at the ready

  • nomoretraitors

    “no telling how much else will be burned away along with it”
    I guess that’s the only way we learn

  • donna

    i am sick of these claims; i am a “moron” on street and could have told you or anyone else this was absolutely going to happen. all these people need to resign and those who do know what they are talking about engaged. blindsided what a fool. only surprise was amount of time it took to do so.

  • LoJoFo

    Who cares whether the “regular” Muslims agree with those with radical views or whether they’re afraid they’re going to get their heads chopped off if they speak out. They’re. Not. Speaking. Out. These people who keep trying to figure out WHY people are not doing what they should would never make it in a school classroom, where one must deal with the children as they ARE.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Uhm…so-called “regular” Muslims are jihadists in one form or another, as waging jihad in one form or another, either violently or non-violently, is a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslim in the world, and because Islam is a so-called religion that executes all apostates and all blasphemers, all mainstream orthodox Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another, either violent or non-violent, as opposed to only a few radicals and extremists. Otherwise, they are executed for apostasy and blasphemy according to the dictates of Islam.

      • LoJoFo

        Right. So who cares WHY they’re not speaking out about the atrocities committed by the extremists? I don’t. “Not to speak is to speak.”–Bonhoeffer

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Right. So who cares WHY they’re not speaking out about the atrocities committed by the extremists?

          Since per the dictates of Islam all mainstream orthodox Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another, either violent or non-violent, then why do you still believe atrocities are committed only by extremists? I mean since all Muslims are jihadists in one form or another, then by definition there aren’t any extremists?

          Apparently, you are reading but still not getting it.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    What I see is a lot of neo-cons finger pointing and blaming Obama for the rise of ISIS and they say that the goal of ISIS is to create a Caliphate that will not only become a terrorist’s haven but also a training ground from which to launch terrorist attacks against America. In other words, I see a lot of extreme and irrational paranoia. However, at the same time I also see the complete and utter naivety and incompetence of the Obama administration when it comes to recognizing the threats emanating from Islam.

    In my book, both factions are wrong because they both misunderstand the true nature of the Islamic totalitarian world. The word terrorism today is a euphemism for extremists and radicals. However, the jihadis that comprise the forces of ISIS are not radical Muslims, extremists, or terrorists, they are mainstream orthodox Sunni Muslims instead that elected to wage jihad (holy war) violently as opposed to non-violently, and in this specific case against Shiite infidels. Think of them as young Americans that have volunteered to serve in our all-volunteer military force. Volunteering to serve in the US military does not automatically make them radical Americans, extremists, or terrorists.

    While they may be attempting to carve out a so-called Caliphate, i.e., another Islamic totalitarian state, that is not their ultimate goal. The ultimate goal of jihad (holy war) is to eventually make Islam supreme throughout the world, and they accomplish that goal by waging jihad against infidels both violently and non-violently and by the eventual imposition of Sharia, i.e., Islamic totalitarian law. Indeed, that is the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam, as opposed to so-called radical Islam, whose existence is a western infidel created myth.

    Why would they need a safe haven and terrorists training grounds in Iraq from which to launch terrorist attacks against America? These people are not radical Muslims, extremists, or terrorists. Instead these jihadis that constitute the ISIS forces are mainstream orthodox Muslims that have elected to wage jihad violently as opposed to non-violently.

    As a matter of fact, waging jihad (holy war) in one form or another, either violently or non-violently, is a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims, and because Islam is a so-called religion that executes all apostates and all blasphemers, all mainstream orthodox Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another, either violent or non-violent, as opposed to just a few radical Muslims, extremists, or terrorists. Otherwise, they are executed for apostasy and blasphemy according to the dictates of Islam. And because all mainstream orthodox Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another, they can’t all be radical Muslims, extremists, or terrorists.

    Hence, since all mainstream orthodox Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another, then why do they need a safe haven in Iraq from which to launch terrorist attacks, as there are already millions of mainstream orthodox Muslims living here in America that are also jihadists as well?

    Way too much emphasis and hype in this society is placed on violent aspects of jihad that is always conflated as being terrorism. However, the greatest threat by far emanating from Islam is not from violent jihad that is ubiquitously conflated as being terrorism, because the Islamic totalitarian world is extremely backwards relative to the infidel western world and can never hope to defeat us militarily. The greatest threat emanating from Islam by far today is through non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad, i.e., through mass Muslim infiltration of our societies and through eventual demographic conquest via mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage to the infidel western world.

    Of course, when we infidel westerners see Muslims decapitating the heads of infidels on the Internet, we think to ourselves, “oh how extreme.” But the truth of the matter is Muslims have always decapitated the heads of their infidel victims since shortly after the Hijra in 622 AD. Thus, while the practice may seem extreme and rather barbaric to us squeamish western infidels, we must remember at the same time that it has always been a ubiquitous part of Islamic culture for centuries, and in that regard it isn’t extreme in the least, at least in Islamic culture.

    Muslims aren’t radicals, extremists, or terrorists, they are mainstream orthodox Muslims instead doing what they have always done for centuries, waging jihad (holy war) against infidels by any and all means at their disposal in the cause of Allah against all infidels to ultimately make Islam supreme. As the subjugation of all infidels and all religions into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., harsh and degrading dhimmitude, through both violent and non-violent jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, i.e., Islamic totalitarian law, to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world is the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam

    • Americana

      That’s right, they’re mainstream Sunni Muslims who see their lives at risk from Shia Muslims because of the uncomfortable relationship between the two Muslim sects. Same is true for the reactions of the Shia Muslims, they’re afraid of what the Sunni Muslims will do to them. That’s an entirely different animal from what you’re depicting. This is political sectarian warfare and all of humanity has waged this type of warfare throughout history. To try to attempt to classify it as something akin to Armaggedon is not accurate.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        That’s right, they’re mainstream Sunni Muslims who see their lives at risk from Shia Muslims because of the uncomfortable relationship between the two Muslim sects. Same is true for the reactions of the Shia Muslims, they’re afraid of what the Sunni Muslims will do to them.

        Actually, the Sunnis see the Shias as infidels and the Shias see the Sunnis as infidels, and both sides because they comprise mainstream orthodox Muslims, see all non-Muslims as infidels, i.e., less than humans.

        That’s an entirely different animal from what you’re depicting. This is political sectarian warfare and all of humanity has waged this type of warfare throughout history. To try to attempt to classify it as something akin to Armaggedon is not accurate.

        The truth is the truth! Indeed, the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam (the only kind), which happens to include both Sunni and Shia Islam, is the subjugation of all infidels and all religions into Islamic totalitarianism, i.e., harsh and degrading dhimmitude, through both violent and stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, i.e., Islamic totalitarian law, to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world.

        What is happening in Iraq may be sectarian, as both sides see the other side as infidels, but it is jihad nonetheless, and humanity with the exception of only Muslims has not waged jihad against other cultures to make their so-called religion and culture, which isn’t a religion, supreme over all others throughout history.

        Moreover, no other culture other than Islamic totalitarian culture is nearly so barbaric and so draconian when they wage jihad (holy war) and not. Not to mention also incredibly backwards relative to our far more advanced and evolved Christian-Judeo culture. So much for your useless PC multicultural loon theory whereby all cultures are somehow equal, as it is obviously very false. Indeed, it’s about as plausible as your insane so-called Global Warming Theory.

        Thus, to make you thrilled, let me call for the banning and reversal of all mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage, because it is really non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad for the nefarious purposes of mass Muslim infiltration and eventual demographic conquest.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    That is another venue in which potential radicalization could occur, so not just at mosques, but also on campus.”

    Another myth stemming from abject ignorance of Islam is that Muslims are somehow miraculously radicalized. However, all mainstream orthodox Muslims in the world are jihadists in one form or another, either violent or non-violent. Just because a Muslim is non-violent, doesn’t mean that he or she isn’t a jihadists, as they all are in one form or another. Otherwise, they are executed for apostasy and blasphemy according to the dictates of Islam.

    Of course, all this paranoia and irrational focus on the word terrorism by our so-called MSM, which is also a euphemism for radicals and extremists, is one of the reasons why so many people are so ignorant.

    • Americana

      There is NO DEMOGRAPHIC in the world that is that RELIABLY “one form or another” of anything. This is ridiculous to proclaim this kind of doctrinaire BS about the billions of the world’s Muslims.

      A strict Muslim, whether a jihadist or no, has to know that someone is not sympathetic to jihad for the person to be determined to be an apostate and then executed for it. There may be executions but they are either high profile like Theo Van Gogh or they’re people standing in the way of ISIS/ISIL in particular regions. No one in the West who reads the MSM is ignorant about jihad unless they wish to be ignorant. If there’s ignorance, it’s because people aren’t reading enough news sources because you can certainly get the picture of the WHAT/WHERE/WHY of jihad from the MSM whether you believe that’s true or not.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    I suggest a BDS of the UK, until the time, if ever, the UK regains its senses and morality.

    • logdon

      Before you do that take care of your own Muslim and BDS Obama.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        I agree – but UK does have influence over the thinking of socialist/regressive progressives in the US.

        The same mentality that cripples and is destroying the UK can cripple the US.

        The UK is where Islamofascists openly threaten the UK and Eurabia with 9/11 scale attacks – and opponents of Islamofascism in the UK are arrested. FACT.

        The US would not tolerate such threats. The UK is behaving as an obedient dhimmi.

        • logdon

          And what of the Occupy trash who infested New York and other cities, threatening to bring the nation down Cloward Piven style?

          We’re in this together, you know and point scoring is rather pointless.

          Under Obama and indeed, ‘religion of peace’ Bush the US surrendered much of its Judeo-Christian character, so much that Hussein (there’s the clue) deemed America an Islamic nation.

          And read my piece again.

          It’s not the UK per se but its uber PC government and again, if you took the time to watch Nigel Farage knocking the excrement out of Lib-Dem Nick Clegg for which he received massive poll approval you can see where we’re headed.

          Europe has awakened and across the board the national parties are trumping the socialists.

          We’ve had enough.

          • J.B.

            I hope so.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The history of European Nationalism is scary. We see “nationalism” morphing into fascism in Greece, Hungary.

            The UK treat people equally. The UK currently treats Islamists with kid gloves and people who read the words of Winston Churchill (the greatest man of the 20th century) as criminals.

            That’s not a problem with nationalism, it’s a problem with a country that hates itself and subjugates the native population and encourages people to hate countries like Israel – while ignoring the Islamofascist hordes that surround Israel AND attack the UK from within the UK.

            I have to tell you that I am disgusted by the UK, by what it has become. I hope Americans never forget that the UK released the convicted bomber of Pam Am 103 – on false grounds.

            I occasionally read blogs like CIFWatch, HurryUpHarry and see how the UK has descended into depravity.

          • Drakken

            Sorry mate, but it is nationalism that will save Europe, not diversity multicultural stupidity on steroids.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The people who call themselves “nationalists” are too often naz is. The “white nationalists” are naz is. The “nationalism” of third world countries like hungary and greece are naz is.

          • American Patriot

            That is also true. But what the countries of Europe need is a strong sense of patriotism. The British Unionists are patriots in the sense that they want to keep the UK as one country. We can have patriotism without extremism.

          • American Patriot

            While it is true that nationalism may save Europe, it is my opinion that having Scotland secede from the UK would be a bad idea. The UK is stronger as one country than as four separate countries. Keep in mind that the separatist SNP is sympathetic with the Islamists in Scotland and the rest of Britain. For instance, the Lockerbie thug was pardoned by Scotland’s First Minister Alex Salmond, who is also the head of the SNP.

          • logdon

            That’s your view and you are entitled to it.

            However the scenario you describe does not match the facts. Or the point of my original posting.

            As for Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi, he was freed by the Scottish Government, not the UK Parliament. Not quite the same thing.

            I’m not going into the ins and outs but there is also a very high probability that the Lockerbie disaster was not his doing, rather an Iranian team of killers.

            However, I will agree, the politics around this whole episode were quite disgusting.

            Meanwhile you’ve got Bowe Bergdahl and Benghazi to think about.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The unequal trade of 5 Talibanazis for one deserter is awful – topped off with the father of the deserter offering a prayer in arabic was an insult to America..

            The US should be up in arms over this.

            I hoped that the outrage would continue but things settled down – with the American media focusing on the dumb soccer crap.

            As for the bombing of Pan Am 103, if the wrong guy was convicted, OK, prove that he was wrongly convicted, but the story was the poor man was dieing and would be dead in 3 months – he lived close to 3 YEARS – and the awful topping was the heroes welcome he received in Libya, with a waving evil scottish flag – and the “coincidental” BP oil contracts.

            I’d say that most Americans consider all the national boundaries on the British Island meaningless – it’s all the UK. You can claim the problem was with the evil scots – but Americans don’t see it that way. There’s a scotland/wales – but they aren’t independent countries – they are states – jealous and foolish. If scotland thinks it can exercise its independence from the English by being evil, it just makes scotland a land of hateful savages who spit in the face of the families of the victims of Pan Am 103.

            SCREW depraved scotland.

          • American Patriot

            The majority of Scots oppose independence and wish for Scotland to remain part of the United Kingdom. In fact, the upcoming referendum in Scotland this September would become a failure for the SNP (the main separatist party in Scotland), as there are even some SNP voters who are against separation. In fact, there are more SNP voters against separation than Labour voters for it.

  • Arlie

    There is a you tube video you all need to see. type in the title: ISIS the start of World War III David Icke & Luke Rudkowski. By www,wearechange.org they call themselves “change media university”. God Bless.

  • Walter Sieruk

    This denial reminds me of what Brigitte Gabriel ,who is the founder of actforamerica.org, wrote in the book about the threat posed by the militant jihadists and the denial of this threat of many in the Western countries. Her book about the jihadists BECAUSE THEY HATE reads “The West is ignorant and refuses to learn.” Sadly, she has been proven to be right by writing that statement by many people in the West and by those Western government officials as the title of the above article shows.

  • Drakken

    Very well said Don. The Balkanization continues to it’s inevitable bloody conclusion.

    • logdon

      Here are the current contestants.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd9rsmD4HiM

      Well worth watching for a bit of reality about our sceptered isle.

      • logdon

        PS:

        I joined Ukip after watching this wonderful debate.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          I learned about Nick Farange from Pat Condells youtube channel.

          • logdon

            Apparently not well enough.

            It’s Nigel Farage.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I don’t care if I unintentionally misspell his name. I know who he is and admire his words.

            But he is currently not in a position to get the UK to change its downward spiral.

          • logdon

            If we all thought like that, we in Britain would be speaking German.

            When Goering started his aerial war against Britain in 1940 the Luftwaffe had around four times more aircraft than the RAF.

            We won, and there’s a message there.

            I am a member of Ukip, we are buoyant and above all optimistic.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            If socialists ran Britain during WW2, you would be speaking German. And there were British collaborators with the naz is as there are British collaborators with Fascist Iran today.

            I read that not long after WW2 ended, Churchill was booted. No good deed goes unpunished.

            I read about the arrest of Paul Weston – for reading the un-PC words of Winston Churchill. I read about the Islamists spitting on British troops parading in Luton – and the counter demonstrators were harassed by the police. I read about the vile lauren booth, jennie tonge, george gallowsway, roger waters, the bbc, the guardian, gerald kaufman, the bombing of the London transport by British muslims, the beheading of Lee Rigby.

            The rise of the British Na zi Party is not a good development. You don’t trade one disease for another.

            The UK deserves our contempt for what it has become..

  • Sam Pyeatte

    A lot of doe-eyed and soft-brained liberals will probably have to die before they get the hint that we have trouble in our country.

  • Ganesha_akbar
    • Americana

      Boy, how is it you claim the attacker is a “devout Muslima” when she’s not wearing Muslim dress nor a Muslim head covering? I went off to look for more details and the story says nothing about her being a Muslim. Seems more like it’s a woman on woman squabble of some kind. Eventually, we may know more… I’d like to see if you can produce an actual story that says the attacker is a Muslim.
      __________________________________________________________________

      Police in Salem, New Jersey, are searching for a woman caught on video brutally beating a mother as her young child watches and repeatedly pleads for her to stop.

      The shocking footage, which was shot on a street in Salem, Massachusetts, shows one woman kicking and punching another as a toddler pleads with her to stop.

      The video, which was shot by a bystander, shows the victim’s two-year-old son bravely kicking at the attacker’s legs during the horrific assault.

      Astonishingly the attacker then turns her aggression on the child warning the mother that she will kick the toddler in the face.

      The video, which was released by Salem Police, ends with the victim lying on the ground beaten.

      Police chief Pelura said the victim was left “disoriented, confused and bleeding from the face”. The attacker has been identified as Latia Harris, 25, but she has not been apprehended yet.

      Police have said the attacker will likely face charges of aggravated assault and two counts of making terroristic threats.

      What sparked the assault is unclear, though the incident took place on a pathway near to a McDonald’s restaurant where police believe the suspect might have been employed.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Make up your mind.

        Salem Mass. or Salem NJ.

        LOL!

        • Americana

          The story says SALEM, N.J. — what’s below the line is what I copied from a N.J. newspaper.

      • Ganesha_akbar
        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Darth Vader unmasked.

      • Drakken

        Oh look, more ghetto hood rats having fun at our expense. The shocking part is, nobody did a damn thing to stop it.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      The little boy is the BEST BOY in the WORLD.

      Little boy AKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjnrbVxcRXw

      There’s nothing wrong with Islam that can’t be fixed with a mushroom cloud over mecca.

  • yo neighbor

    I believe that the founding fathers would have recognized Islam as a political entity masquerading as a religion immediately and would not have allowed them religious status. They probably wouldn’t get a 501 C 4.

  • Maynard

    Its about time we back off and let these peaceful butchers kill each other. I am convinced that a dead Jihadist will not harm us so leave them alone and let them straighten their internal feud out. There is no way we could possible know which one is which. Its like it was in Vietnam. The only way we could be sure if they were Arvin or North Vietnamese was if they were shooting at us, even then it was a toss up..

  • JAMES

    Islam; a misunderstood, peaceful, nonviolent religion?

  • Dan Cubrich

    Lenora, this is an interesting article here? Why don’t you accept my facebook friend invitation so we can talk about these kind of savages

  • rightrightright

    If government security departments are officially denied sensible education on islamic terror, there is still unofficial self-education, courtesy of the internet and sites such as Robert Spencer’s Jihadwatch.

    Those in the West who have become aware of what is actually going on aren’t rocket scientists, just normal people leading normal lives but with open eyes. I just cannot buy that the security services who have a professional interest in Islam’s manifestations truly don’t know what jihad means and how it is practiced. Are they thick, willfully ignorant, or self-gagged out of fear, the way journalists have become?

    When they pronounce that they “did not know”, I don’t believe them. They knew, and they know.

  • Ellman48

    “Of course the obvious reason for this, and for why some Muslims in
    Britain are “too accepting of radical views,” is because they agree with
    those “radical views” and consider them to be authentic Islam. But that
    prospect is so horrifying in its implications that British officials do
    not dare face it.”

    It seems that when it comes to Islamist extremism we have two kinds of people: those who understand the existential threat that it represents to the entire world of non-Muslims, and those (like ‘British officials’) who prefer to stick their head in the sand and hope for the best.

  • montana83

    Karl Rove’s puppet, President Bush II, said over and over again that Islam is a religion of peace. Case closed. Right?

  • Brucew56

    This morning a Muslim woman went door to door in my neighborhood offing to educate on the koran. I politely explained that I was a Christian, Jesus Christ was my Savior, I and was not interested in knowing more about Islam. She then asked if I was interested in knowing what the koran had to say about Jesus. I explained that the basis of my faith was the Bible. Then, she turned and walked away.

    So, now, we are seeing an effort to spread Islam in small town America. Islam’s goal is to convert infidels, by force if necessary, or destroy societies that resist.

    Pray!

    • Drakken

      Time to arm up, Minnesota Nice is not the way to get those savages out of your nice Rochester neighborhood.

      • Brucew56

        @Drakken…Minnesota used to be “nice” before it was taken over by progressives who have created one of the most generous welfare states in the US. THEY ARE ALL DRUNK ON THE LIAR’S KOOL AID! There will get a day of reckoning. God will prevail.

        • Drakken

          I know, I am from the land of libtards myself.

          • Brucew56

            @Drakken..Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. God will provide.

          • Drakken

            God helps those who help themselves.

  • One Man

    In aggregate I don’t think the west will awaken until the black flag is hoisted in one of our neighborhoods. Even then it may be rationalized away as we continue to be pacified by all the social pathologies embraced by the leftist insurgency in the western democracies.

  • pfbonney

    “Another reason why the CIA was completely surprised by ISIL’s advance was because the Obama Administration has so thoroughly deemphasized the jihad threat, and loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that al Qaeda was the only jihad group – and was, for its part, “on the ropes.””

    Someone should draw a political cartoon depicting Obama giving his “We have al Qaeda on the run!” speech, and with the “Mission Accomplished” strung up behind him, a la President Bush.

    Although in Bush’s case, he had actually had Hussein out of power by then, and Hussein never did regain power.

  • Tom Winegar

    The sooner the gassing begins the better, expunge Islam from the face of the planet by whatever means that prove effective. What I just typed sounds awful to those wearing the blinders but will be commonplace once a few schools and malls are destroyed by this loving religion called Islam. America’s second amendment will prove useful where gas and nerve agents fail in their purpose.

  • Walter Sieruk

    As governments are in denial about the dangers of Islam with its jihad. Be it stealth or militant jihadism and the state entities need to wake up to the reality of the truth. Likewise many people in the US that I know are the same way that they to need to wake up to the dangers of the truth about Islam.What I offer to show them a disc or some written information about this subject they say “No I’m too busy.” It turn out that they are indeed too busy . That is too busy going to baseball and football games and watching them on TV to be well informed about things that really matter. If they get hit by a jihadist terror attack at some sports game they in essence, have little right to complain. Nevertheless they will. It’s just how Brigitte Gabriel in her book BECAUSE THEY HATE explained “The West is ignorant and refuses to learn.”

  • sydchaden

    What is it about “death to infidels” that they don’t understand?
    Rather than confront that, Obama fantasizes that “Islam is the religion of love”, and, “Islamic terrorism is the work of a tiny minority”. Any fool can see that the Sunnis and the Shia are hardly a “tiny minority”, and, any fool can see that “death to infidels” is hardly a message of love. But, Obama isn’t just “any fool”, is he? He’s the President of the United States, and he is ignoring the death sentence for the nation of “infidels” that he is supposedly leading.
    On election day, voters should be asked if they want to accept living under the threat of “death to infidels”, or not. Europe is getting there, already. Population studies show that the birthrate of European non-Muslim families has fallen below two children per family, which is too low to sustain even the present non-Muslim population level. In contrast, the birthrate of European Muslim families is eight children per family, high enough to support exponential growth.
    The past Ayatollah Khomeini declared that Islam would conquer the world, not through battle, but through its birthrate. The present Ayatollah Khameini has asked the Muslim World to further increase its birthrate. Perhaps that is why Obama calls Islam “the religion of love”.

  • Webb

    I wish I had a daughter like her.

    • logdon

      What a great response. Spoken like a true patriot.

  • pookieamos

    At times I believe the true dangers of jihadis is ignored because it is a good method for de-population in the minds of some…..

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  • Walter Sieruk

    The Greek philosopher Plato is one of the contributors to
    Western Civilization. He may shed some light into the subject of those people
    who are shackled in the chains and darkness of Islamic thought. In Plato’s
    REPUBLIC he gave an allegory of a cave
    where “the condition of men living in a sort of cavernous chamber…Here they
    have been from childhood, chained by leg and also by the neck, so that they
    cannot move and see only what is in front of them.” This can fit into what the
    Imams do in the mosques and how they brainwash the young people in the
    madrassa’s by always programming Islamic doctrine into their victims and not
    exposing them to other worldviews. Furthermore, even in Islamic tradition when
    Muslims have their newborn child the father whispers words of the Quran into
    the infants ear so that that Quran verses are the first thing the newborn
    person hears. This programming process takes place all their lives. These are
    some of the chains that keep them bound in a mosque [cave]. The chains do not
    let them reach out for dialectic reasoning and let them examine the evidence
    both for as well as against, or even question whether Muhammad was a true
    prophet of God or not, and if the Quran is a hoax or not. As the chains and
    darkness of the cave blinds and holds the prisoners back from reality, so
    Islamic propaganda holds back the
    cognition to reason with the question if Islam is true or not. They are forbidden from even thinking to
    question Islam. Furthermore, if a Muslim by some miracle wakes up to the truth
    about Islam, it would be like the man in Plato’s cave allegory who was released
    from his chains and taken outside to the real world. At first direct light
    would be painful and disorienting, it would take some time for him to
    understand what the truth is all about, he even might cling to the shadows and
    still for a time believe some of the illusions to be real. But he would finally
    come to know “what he had formerly seen was meaningless illusion.” And that was
    “what passed for wisdom in his former dwelling-place.”And that the other cave
    prisoners also needed to see the light [the truth] for he “was sorry for them.”
    and he would re-enter the cave just to rescue them. Nevertheless, the cave prisoners
    wouldn’t understand and “if they could lay hand on the man who was trying to
    set them free.” And if they could “they would kill him.” Likewise, when someone
    escapes from the shackles of Islam, those still in the darkness of this
    religion would not understand and if possible kill him for leaving Islam, and even more so if he were to try to
    enlighten them about the truth about Islam. For these people in Islam are
    chained to an empty imitation of truth and godliness.

  • S. Veritas

    I live in Calgary and most Calgarians are not only ignorant about Islam but don’t even want to know. Including my son! Every time I brought up the subject, he would throw up his hands and say, “Dad! I’m not interested I have some Muslim friends and they’re not like that!” Then about a week ago he tells me that everything I said to him about Islam was correct. What changed his mind? He saw the video of Farah Mohamed Shirdon threatening Canada, United States and even Barack Obama. And then he told me that he and Farah went to high school together and had been “friends”!
    It’s time for us here in Calgary to wake up to the dangers hat Islam poses to us here! The next young man that you’ll hear about fighting, as a terrorist, in the Middle East or here…………..maybe your son!

    • Bklyn Farmer

      Thanks for your fight. I have vacationed in your area many times and it has to be one of the most spetacular places on earth, but after the lawsuit against Mark Steyn and the warning that Ann Coulter got I am even concerned what books I bring along. By the way from what I have seen the situation is much worse in the east. Canada great country, great people and great PM.

      P.S. Please be kind and warn the novice traveler what prairie oysters are before they order it.

  • mikegiles

    Most muslims are pluralists, but how many IslamoNuts do you need to make life miserable. There were only 20 involved in 9/11.

  • Ray – Jesus is the Son of God.

    ➡︎ America has a bi-sexual muslim who supports child molestation, sitting in the oval office.

    ➡︎ Homosexuals and lesbians have been given legal access to our children in the boy-scouts
    and girl-scouts so they can sexually molest them.

    ➡︎ The homosexuals and lesbians control our educational system.

    ➡︎ Homosexuals and lesbians control America’s legal system.

    ➡︎ God’s Word is now called hate material.

    ➡︎ Talking about God’s Word and telling the truth is now called hate speech.

    ➡︎ What is good is now called evil and what is evil is now called good.

    ➡︎ In America, and around the world, it’s legal to murder a child in the mothers womb.
    Each year over 1 million children are murdered in their mothers womb.

    ➡︎ All over the world God’s children are being murdered and persecuted.
    The so-called ‘Hate Crime” laws have been enacted to silence God,
    God’s children and anyone who dares speak the truth.

    ➡︎ Our food & water has been altered and loaded with chemicals that
    cause birth defects, cancers and early death.

    ➡︎ As we all know Islam is taking over the world.
    The Qur’an teaches muslims that it’s ok to rape babies,
    children and women. The Qur’an teaches muslims to murder
    anyone who refuses to bow to islam. Please remember,
    Barack Hussein Obama & Eric Holder are muslims.

    ➡︎ The government is treating our veterans like trash…

    ➡︎ What is this all leading to? Have these things been prophesied in God’s Word?

    My Bible Prophecy website answers these questions and many more.
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