Ignoring Hip-Hop Ensures a Democratic President in 2016

Hip-Hop-graffiti1[This is the third part of Ronn Torossian’s three-part series on why hip-hop and Jay-Z are worthy of America’s respect. To read part 1, click here, for part 2, click here.]

Wise conservatives might ask why Barack Obama was re-elected despite terrible approval ratings. According to Gallup, Obama averaged 49.1% job approval during his first term in office.  His performance was subpar, he broke repeated promises, and the economy still struggled, yet he was handily re-elected. Despite the facts that it will be an 8-year Obama reign and that there’s no strong GOP candidate, conservatives continue to claim to know it all.

Conservatives don’t open their minds – and Democrats are likely to win the election again in 2016.  Conservative ideology shouldn’t be changed – it is right and the left is wrong on the issues.

However, dictating to people what they should listen to and how they should dress is un-American. Hip-hop crosses all racial and ethnic lines – all across the country. Conservatives who endlessly criticize hip-hop are wrong and don’t understand what hip-hop is. They also don’t have a clue what their children are listening to, nor do they have any clue how to affect popular culture.  Wake up – the world has changed.

On college campuses nationwide, youth listen to hip-hop. Leaving aside the fact that hip-hop crosses all racial boundaries, are these haters aware that hip-hop’s largest consumer base is the Hispanic community? With the continued growth of Hispanics in America, how does the GOP intend to capture these votes? Consider hip-hop. It is so hypocritical for pro-capitalism conservatives to hate on an entire industry which has such mass appeal.

Hip-hop has empowered a whole new generation of people who were previously disenfranchised. Few American industries are more entrepreneurial than hip-hop. 

Take these lyrics from Ma$e:

“Now what the hell is you lookin’ for?/ Can’t a young man get money anymore?/ Let my pants sag down to the floor/ Really do it matter as long as I score?”

In America, whether you wear a hoodie like Mark Zuckerberg or a 3-piece suit, indeed you can succeed. In a shock to some who read this site, kids today grow up wanting to be entrepreneurs, not doctors or lawyers. Hip-hop encourages that. We don’t want government hand-outs, we want to earn our money.  Conservatives should let hip-hop fans know they don’t judge and accept people who want to create their own rule book.

So many of us, whether it is Jamie Glazov, the editor of Front Page Magazine, who came to this country as a refugee, or me, Ronn Torossian, who grew up in the Bronx with a single mother, need role models and people we can relate to. Kids today who don’t have huge opportunities need positive thinking – and so too do people of all ages. That’s offered in hip-hop.  Take the words of Eminem, who says, “You can do anything you set your mind to,” or the greatest rapper alive, Jay-Z, who says, “I’d rather die enormous than live dormant.” Dreaming big is important and hip-hop allows us to envision and realize those dreams. In contrast, Americans don’t see government officials as enviable no matter where they fall on the political spectrum.

My children are blessed to attend private school with very smart and well-connected kids and families – I wasn’t able to do that. Thankfully, they have so many opportunities I didn’t have, and the non-stop work ethic is something that is hard for many of us to associate with good ol’ boys in the GOP.  Can’t the GOP adopt some of the quotes and language from hip-hop to widen its base?

Sean “Diddy” Combs has a work ethic unlike anyone else. As he says, “I demand the best. Sleep is forbidden. If you work for me, you have to roll how I roll. I’m not really human. I’m like a machine.”  Or Will Smith, a brilliant actor, whom so many watched on TV as the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Smith said, “The first step before anyone else in the world believes it, is that YOU have to believe it.”  They are so right — and we need to know we don’t need to go to Harvard to be successful and make it. Why not identify with these people and let them know that the conservative movement believes they should be rewarded for their hard work, by paying lower taxes and keeping more of their money? Conservatives would gain so many votes.

How about this gem from Birdman? “Your work ethic has to be to the ceiling. You’re gonna get out of this what you’re putting into it.” And while the conservative movement struggles with ways to balance social values with a conservative ethos, aren’t there “values” related issues on which we can cooperate? 

Take Jay-Z’s great song “Mama I made it”:

“I told you one day I’d get you a home /I didn’t know it could possibly be in Rome/ Told me don’t wait on nobody get your own/ So with me myself and my microphone I made it. … Mama I made it.”

Is it not completely hypocritical to attack these lyrics or values?  How many welfare cases have become millionaires because of hip-hop?  How many honest businessmen used to be criminals because of hip-hop?

Sean “Diddy” Combs, whose father was killed when he was 33, was a criminal. Yet he says: “This is my plan. When I’m in the studio making a hit record, I’m not trying to make a hit record; I’m making one. This is what I studied. This is why I stay up twenty hours a day.” His children will have great opportunities in America – and that’s the American way.  True conservative values.

LL Cool J, the rare Republican in hip-hop, said, “Success is achieved and maintained by those who try and keep trying.”  If one reads the comments from conservatives on recent FrontPage hip-hop related articles, we are destined to fail yet again amongst the young and amongst pop culture because our minds are closed. Conservatives aren’t trying – they know it all. It’s unfortunate.

A classic hip-hop song, one I remember hearing ad naseum in the Bronx in the 1980s, featured a rapper named Special Ed rapping, “I’m talented, yes I’m gifted/ Never boosted, never shoplifted/ I got the cash, but money ain’t nothing.” I remember hearing countless people understand the importance of making money and doing good things in the world.  Even if one is unconventional, he should seek to make big things happen. Closing out hip-hop completely is simply absurd and a definite way to close out major segments of America.  It’s a major mistake.

Every day before I go to work, I listen to Jay-Z’s “My 1st Song,” as it inspires me to work hard and always challenge myself for more:

I’m just, tryin to stay above water y’know/ Just stay busy, stay workin/ Puff told me like, the key to this joint/ The key to staying, on top of things/ is treat everything like it’s your first project, knahmsayin? Like it’s your first day like back when you was an intern/ Like, that’s how you try to treat things like, just stay hungry/ Treat my first like my last, and my last like my first/ And my thirst is the same as – when I came/ It’s my joy and my tears and my laughter it brings to me/ It’s my ev-ery-thing/ Treat my first like my last, and my last like my first/ And my thirst like the first song I sang.

My PR firm has grown because we will not be outworked – no one will ever try harder than us.

President Obama will go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever. One of the reasons is that he has made an enemy out of anyone domestically who disagrees with him. The many conservatives who have issues with hip-hop should make more of an effort to understand the movement and why it appeals to so many who are outside of the norm. Don’t make them your enemies, especially since Hispanics keep growing in America.

The world has changed. There’s a multi-racial President in the White House.  It’s not all the same as it used to be. Conservatives should start figuring out how to move on and capture more youth, minority, and Hispanic votes, or they can forget winning an election for the near future. 

The challenge, as Jay-Z put it in “A Dream,” is “Remind yourself. Nobody built like you, you design yourself.” The GOP needs to open the tent to people who understand the reality of America in 2014 and beyond.

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  • VLParker

    Obama was elected because we had a milquetoast, faux conservative running on the Republican ticket and he couldn’t get conservatives to come out and vote. Romney was so weak he couldn’t even match RINO McCain. If you think you are ever going to get the rap listening crowd to switch from democrat to republican in any significant numbers you are living in fantasy land.

    • 8ball

      Anyone who didn’t vote for Mitt Romney is a moron.

  • Judahlevi

    This series of articles are ridiculous. You may twist a few lyrics in Hip Hop that you can say are positive, but the vast majority are about “scoring” with drugs and women, not success in life.

    Most people work hard for a living (those who are willing to work) doing things that Diddy would never do. I am not impressed with the work ethic of Hip Hoppers.

    Yes, the culture wars are important, but this is not the path to the future for conservatives. Can we drop this series now and get back to listening to great classical music?

  • Naresh Krishnamoorti

    This once again proves that Daniel Greenfield is the only thing worth reading on this site.

    • laura r

      one of my only reasons as well. just follow daniel on twitter, skip he rest most of the time.

    • http://tinatrent.com/ Tina Trent

      Google the author’s name is you want a glimpse of how far Frontpage has decided to fall — right into the Girls Gone Wild gutter.

      In my opinion it literally doesn’t exist anymore. Scold me about respecting the thugs who safety-pin their pants to the bottom of their underpants, and you have become the mau mau we have all not been waiting for.

      You know, the last time I got told something like that to my face, I was being screamed at by a researcher from the SPLC who was telling me that I needed to learn how to submit to “strong black male authority.”

      Of course, he was a rich white boy, too.

  • laura r

    good read. but delete the part about the saggy pants. you always sabatoge your self w/these articals. throw out the baby w/the bath water. saggy pants the the disgusting part of hiphop. when was the last time you wore them? boy was i glad when pac gave that up when got older & wiser. lets bring some class back.

    • DaCoachK

      Class and hip hop should never be in the same sentence, unless, of course, you are referencing “low class.”

  • Larry Larkin

    Why would anybody with any sense want to pander to the lowest common denominator that is the vicious toxicity of the “hip hop loving” culture. Why are you insisting that conservatives should kowtow to the the offshot of the inner city black gangster culture? The only culture there is about that of a virulent microbe in a petrie dish.
    The hip hop “culture” (using quotes because I can’t use italics) is based around drug dealing, drive by shooting, prison trash. The music, the gaudy and tasteless jewellery, the tattoos, the clothing, are all direct products of that milieu. You can put a suit on a drug dealing, murderous pimp but it doesn’t change the fact that the contents are a drug dealing, murderous pimp.
    It’s like putting a suit on a petty corrupt Chitown race baiting American hating fraud and calling him PoTUS. He’s still going to be nothing but a petty, corrupt, Chitown race baiting America hating fraud.

  • WillielomanIII

    Very good article, thanks Ronn. Much of it is accurate and conservatives would be wise to read and heed the information. But one thing of note, many more conservatives are part of and support many parts of hip-hop culture that you think. I am thankful that Front Page is publishing these. Good work!!

  • Trapnel

    This is a subject also perplexing politicians on this side of the Atlantic and one of our leading Conservative politicians, Michael Gove, minister in charge of education policy has admitted to a ‘strange addiction’ for chap hop – a music genre that combines rap with a celebration of pipe-smoking, tweed suit-wearing, bowler-hatted British gents. It is peculiar, un-American and probably unaspirational: all characteristics that add to its odd British charm.

    As for American music genres there are many which could be supported by American conservatives, but I am absolutely sure that rap is not one of them: most of it is offensive and a blight on the aural as well as physical, particularly the building-scarring graffiti, landscape.

    I think Ronn Torossian is wearing the wrong trousers and barking up the wrong tree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iRTB-FTMdk

    From today’s Daily Telegraph, 25 March 2014: Chap Hop – the rap music that’s very old school. By Harry Wallop

    “Most politicians, when asked to list their favourite music, tie themselves in knots, in an attempt to appear either down with the kids or inoffensively populist.

    So hats off to Michael Gove, the Education Secretary. In an interview at the weekend, he said he was “strangely addicted to chap hop rappers Professor Elemental, Mr B the Gentleman Rhymer and Mr Bruce and the Correspondents.””

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/10719255/Chap-hop-the-rap-music-thats-very-old-school.html

  • Richie A

    Thankfully at least one frontrunner agrees with Torossian – http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/senator-marco-rubio-defends-tupacs-425403
    Indeed, he is right, even if all you middle aged white commentators dont.

    • WillielomanIII

      How would you know the age and race of folks making comments??

    • NAHALKIDES

      Rubio is part of Los Bandidos Ochos, which means he wants to destroy first the GOP and then the entire country with an amnesty for illegal aliens. His popularity deservedly tanked as a result and I think we Conservatives will be able to stop Rubio from getting the nomination in 2016.

    • Judahlevi

      “middle aged white commentators”

      If you are right, then I want to be wrong.

      I don’t judge people by their skin color or their age. I recognize that each individual is unique and valuable. It is our minds that define us, not our skin color or age.

      Which is why a person like you has more in common with a racist and ageist (based on your comment) than anyone here. You put people in groups in judge them instead of treating them as individuals. You are a judgmental collectivist.

  • Brian Schiff

    At least post a picture of JayZ in his Che Guevara teeshirt if you’re gonna continue to post idiotic Rap columns like this..

    • MitchBaxter
      • Brian Schiff

        Thank you Mitch-you duh man-and you know a schmuck when you see one.

      • truebearing

        I can see Rand Paul or Ted Cruz now, wearing their Che Guevara t-shirt, with their pants half down, dancing around and spewing bad rhymes…Yeah, the votes would be flowing.

        Since JayZ is such a conservative stalwart, and wears Che t-shirts, I thought I would contribute a list of some of Che’s conservative viewpoints:

        1. “Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!”

        2. “Blind hate against the enemy creates a forceful impulse that cracks the boundaries of natural human limitations, transforming the soldier in an effective, selective and cold killing machine. A people without hate cannot triumph against the adversary.”

        3. “To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary … These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution!”

        4. “A revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall!” The Wall is a reference to the wall where Che’s enemies stood before his firing squads.

        5. “I am not Christ or a philanthropist, old lady, I am all the contrary of a Christ … I fight for the things I believe in, with all the weapons at my disposal and try to leave the other man dead so that I don’t get nailed to a cross or any other place.”

        6. “If any person has a good word for the previous government that is good enough for me to have him shot.”

        7. Che wanted the result of the Cuban missile crisis to be an atomic war. “What we affirm is that we must proceed along the path of liberation even if this costs millions of atomic victims.”

        8. “In fact, if Christ himself stood in my way, I, like Nietzsche, would not hesitate to squish him like a worm.”

        9. “Let me say, at the risk of seeming ridiculous, that the true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love.”

        10. “It’s a sad thing not to have friends, but it is even sadder not to have enemies.”

        If JayZ doesn’t agree with Che, why wear a Che t-shirt? I haven’t heard of him wearing any David Duke apparel.

      • truebearing

        I can see Rand Paul or Ted Cruz now, wearing their Che Guevara t-shirt, with their pants half down, dancing around and spewing bad rhymes…Yeah, the votes would be flowing.

        Since JayZ is such a conservative stalwart, and wears Che t-shirts, I thought I would contribute a list of some of Che’s conservative viewpoints:

        1. “Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!”

        2. “Blind hate against the enemy creates a forceful impulse that cracks the boundaries of natural human limitations, transforming the soldier in an effective, selective and cold killing machine. A people without hate cannot triumph against the adversary.”

        3. “To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary … These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution!”

        4. “A revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall!” The Wall is a reference to the wall where Che’s enemies stood before his firing squads.

        5. “I am not Christ or a philanthropist, old lady, I am all the contrary of a Christ … I fight for the things I believe in, with all the weapons at my disposal and try to leave the other man dead so that I don’t get nailed to a cross or any other place.”

        6. “If any person has a good word for the previous government that is good enough for me to have him shot.”

        7. Che wanted the result of the Cuban missile crisis to be an atomic war. “What we affirm is that we must proceed along the path of liberation even if this costs millions of atomic victims.”

        8. “In fact, if Christ himself stood in my way, I, like Nietzsche, would not hesitate to squish him like a worm.”

        9. “Let me say, at the risk of seeming ridiculous, that the true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love.”

        10. “It’s a sad thing not to have friends, but it is even sadder not to have enemies.”

        If JayZ doesn’t agree with Che, why wear a Che t-shirt? I haven’t heard of him wearing any David Duke apparel.

      • Tim N

        Thank you!
        Love the bling!
        Don’t you feel it embodies the true spirit of Che’s revolutionary soul.

  • Servo1969

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/ben-horowitz/the-legend-of-the-blind-mc/#comment-1299954778

    Here’s number two. Come on, Frontpage, just one more and I win!

  • Ralph

    Is this the beginning of the end for FPM as a serious website? I hope not, but if all this hip-hop pushing continues and then is followed by articles telling conservatives to embrace gays and other anti-conservative ideas then I will no longer read it. I suspect many others will do the same. Then FPM will have changed just like my neighborhood did; first one third-world family moves in, then more and then presto, you live in a slum. Well, there are scores of good websites out there which represent the values I hold, Bye for now, FPM. I’ll check back in a month.

  • JohnRever22

    Torossian is absolutely right even though you white middle aged red staters wont listen. Obama made enemies of people who disagree with him. Hip-Hop, like all forms of entertainment, is far from ideal. But Obama won in part because he was “cool.” And one can be cool and be conservative. And stop with all this talk about saggy pants – which was out of style 10 years ago. If hiphoppers wear tattoos or whatever else it is, the fools from Duck Dynasty and trailer park trash also wear dumb looking things. People shouldnt be judged by what they look like didnt your mom ever teach you that?
    Elections cannot be won without reaching Hispanics anymore in America – and hiphop is the most popular music in that community. You can write it off, and you completely write off the Hispanic voter.

    • Gislef

      Actually my mom told me to look presentable.

    • NAHALKIDES

      Ah yes, outreach to minorities. But there is only one way to do this – we have to bring them around to our way of thinking; we cannot go to theirs. Our only winning pitch is one for limited government – we can’t outbit the Democrats when it comes to offering these groups piles of other people’s money. Therefore, we have no need to pretend to like (gag!) Hip-Hop.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    Will we be hearing about the Fundamental Conservatism of The Bronies in a couple weeks?

  • Long shanks

    What next, the entrepreneurial spirit and work ethic of the porn industry? Two points I take away from this series:
    1. The author has falsely aggrandized the militant wing of the Left — members of the violent ghetto subculture.
    2. Republicans will increasingly lose politically because they have assisted in increasing the number of people who have an interest in the welfare state through immigration, not because they refuse to get with the “progressive” program.

    • Tim N

      At least the porn industry would be more interesting.

  • Mike

    Well now you’ve done it. You have earned 1 less reader. You’re a good little Progressive Mr. Torossian.

  • Mike

    Bye. I’m done with this rag.

  • thult

    THIS WAS THE PLAN! LBJ HAD A PLAN!

    This is the fallout from the Great Society, wherein America has squandered over $17 TRILLION (some say $21 TRILLION) on anti-poverty programs, the sole purpose (certainly, SOLE OUTCOME) of which, has been to HUGELY degrade the Black American family, and everything that springs from a cohesive and intact family unit!

    How about letting this be a “wake up call” to the underlying issues? How about “waking up” to the FACT that Black-on-Black murder rates are HUGE! How about “waking up” to the FACT that Black-on-Black crime is HUGE! How about
    “waking up” to the FACT that ONE OUT OF THREE Black men is part of the jail/prison system! How about “waking up” to the FACT that 73% of ALL Black babies are illegitimately born (read that, born into FATHERLESS households)! How about “waking up” to the FACT that many, if not MOST, Black students CHOOSE to perform abysmally at academic achievement in securing a FREE education, paid for by the taxpayers!

    WAKE UP!!!

    WAKE UP, and then take the next step and lay the blame for the FEW OF MANY problems within the Black culture that you cited, where they belong! LBJ’s “War on Poverty,” established AFDC MANDATED regulation whereby there could NOT be a man in the house, in order for the woman to fire up her own FREE “government ATM dispenser,” thereby institutionalizing generational
    dependency and today’s 73% Black illegitimacy rate!

    Why do you suppose, after LBJ enacted the “War on Poverty,” he said, “I’ll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years”?

  • mc_up_the_butt

    Day tell me to roll with da glock
    To hide da fact I danced ballet
    Make dem think I smoked crack
    When mom cooks my meals all day

    And wonder how I convinced dem
    dat dis be hot
    peeps be gul-li-be
    when they acted shocked

  • Nan

    I don’t like to be “told” what I have to like and what I have to accept. Why don’t you write an article and tell the Hip Hoppers that they have to embrace Classical music? Not only am I tired of being told by Democrats what I have to do to “win” elections, I’m tired of being told by other Conservatives what I have to do. Just give me a candidate who can defend the Constitution of my Country and stand up for my FREEDOM.

  • NAHALKIDES

    Need I say that I have given up on Torossian? Yes Ronn, ignoring Hip-Hop is Republicans’ problem, and ignoring their Conservative base is perfectly o.k. If Republicans pretend to like Hip-Hop, it will magically transmute the low-information, welfare-seeking voters of the inner-city into staunch Republicans! If only we’d thought of that years ago!

    • Sharps Rifle

      Torossian is just a troll…I skipped reading the article and went straight to the comments. The comments are more interesting and less moronic.

  • Danny

    I don’t know if conservatives should be embracing hip hop, but they shouldn’t spend time condemning it. That would only alienate voters, and that would be stupid and needless. But conservatives should continue to speak out against some of the things that go along with hip hop: gang violence, drugs, etc; they just don’t have to make the connection between those things and hip hop. There is no law saying that conservatives need to be stupid about things. But I will say that one thing that troubles me about hip hop is the bastardization of the English language. The writer of this article does it himself–Why doesn’t he just say “hate hip hop” instead of “hate on hip hop”? I mean, what is that? Is that the “cool” way to speak nowadays? It makes the author sound stupid, which he clearly isn’t. Is it too much to ask that people speak properly? I am a teacher and a part time taxi driver. The language I hear in my cab from people in their late twenties would shock you. They say “yo” at the end of each sentence and speak ebonics. Ebonics, for those of you who don’t know, is a term used to define and celebrate the bastardization of language among Blacks in urban areas. Also, despite the author’s romanticization of hip hop as a modern manifestation of the American dream, it is no coincidence that the vast majority of inmates in American prisons grew up in a culture where hip hop and rap were celebrated. In sum, conservatives should neither approve or disapprove of hip hop. When asked, conservatives should be honest about their opinions.

  • cecil91

    “The world has changed.” Political writers seem to think that phrase is a password that warns readers they are about to read something profound. But usually the only profound message is locked between the writers’ ears. And proclaiming that embracing hip-hop (rap) is a key to national political success is just such an example of self delusion.

  • Salz86

    This is getting weird already. Enough!

    • laura r

      they are all friends, one hand washes the other. so they tried to be edgy, not working.

  • blehtastic

    Seems like nothing more than an advertisement for his PR firm to be hired by the republican party to use hip hop culture to push the message of conservatism to minorities and the young. I don’t know if the author is the right guy for the job, but It’s worth a try. If he were more serious about the actual benefits of hip hop it seems unlikely he would have waited until the third article to start breaking down lyrics. It’s also pretty pathetic that he never mentioned groups like the roots that are actually trying to be forces for good in the hip hop movement, whether their politics are correct or not.

  • http://geoffreybritain.wordpress.com/ Geoffrey_Britain

    It’s modern urban black culture that we condemn because it is antithetical to civilization. Nothing the author can say will change that reality. Ignoring reality is how you destroy a country, whether the President is democrat or republican.

  • DogmaelJones1

    This is one of the most inane “win the election” strategies I’ve ever read and which expects to be taken seriously. It’s much like the Romans asking the Visagoths and German tribes to help them fight the Huns.

    • GinoMachiavelli

      Wonder how that ended up for Romans? /s

      The good news, now we have BMW’s and schnitzelgruben…

  • cxt

    What is really annoying is that authors seemingly ignores the PAGES of the comments on his articles.
    He keep repeating the same tropes over and over and over with no attention what-so-ever to the detailed and specific and informed comments.
    If he is not going to listen to and interact with his readers—why should people continue to read his work?
    I’d still like and answer to my question in the last article.
    Whom in the hip-hop world–the people that might make a real difference to young voters–which of them is going to support a conservative???
    Its all well and good to put “stop attacking hip-hop’ on some sort of auto-loop, for endless repeat. But what is hip-hop going to do about supporting conservative’s?
    My guess is they will do what they always do—act like liberals in public–while getting really “conservative” with their personal monies and businesses where the camera can’t see them.
    Like I said, in many ways most of the hip=hop moguls have more in common with Mitt Romney than Barack Obama–but Mitt just is not cool.

  • Infidel4Ever

    OK Front Page, what’s with all this silly promotion of hip-hop? I never based my vote on who loves or hates rock ‘n roll, and if I had done that I’d be an idiot. Indeed, most musicians I love tend to be liberal loons, I like to keep my music separate from my politics. I’m sure Reagan wasn’t a fan of rock, yet I managed to vote for him. Go figure.

  • Habbgun

    Doesn’t sound like a sound strategy. While Ronn is monetizing oops I mean proselytizing the hip hip crowd we are ignoring outreach to the Celtic Punk crowd. This could have dire consequences in the swing states. What happens when we ignore the Pogues and Drop Kick Mollys? You know what happens?? We lose elections!!! Luckily I check out the music on Youtube and can monetize oops proselytize that group.

  • DogmaelJones1

    This is the most inane strategy for “winning the election” I’ve ever read. It’s much like the Romans asking the Visigoths and German tribes to help them fight the Huns.

  • VLParker

    These essays are beyond ridiculous. All this nonsense is going to do is drive conservatives away from the Republican party and make it even more difficult to win any elections. You admit there have been no strong GOP candidates. That is why we lose elections. Because conservatives have no one to vote for. Wake up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

      Except that the author isn’t trying to talk about formatting the message for new audiences…but just getting it out there. That is where the Republican Party does a wretched job.

  • 1keith1

    Please note that this article is accompanied by a photo of vandalism done in the name of hip-hop. Is this what we want?

    • laura r

      not in my neigborhood. either @ a museum, or ill go up to the bronx.

  • Sharps Rifle

    Another Torossian article? TROLL ALERT.

  • ConservativeNYC

    Way back in 1980 I was an 18 year old rock and roll fanatic. I voted for the most un-rock and roll candidate on earth, Ronald Reagan. So did millions of others like me. Give people more credit. They understand the difference between escapist entertainment and reality. Have a conservative candidate espouse a confident pro-American agenda and watch what happens.

    • 8ball

      Your first 5 sentences are accurate but then you fall into error with your last sentence when you fail to understand that you describe exactly what Romney did.

  • David Bloch

    Poor little rich man Ronn Torossian who digs hip-hop (translated meaning he makes his living from it) but sends his kids to a private school, appears to be the Rodney Dangerfield of HIp Hop – We don’t get no respect, no respect at all. Ronnn’s three part article on HIp Hop reads like a 10th grade high school theme paper. It is one long whine filled with numerous straw man arguments (conservatives continue to know it all . . . conservatives don’t open their mind, . . . conservatives hate an entire industry which has such mass appeal.” blah blah blah). One can almost see Ronn in tears. Ronn has learned well from the Socialist Democrat’s propaganda machine (remember their meme of “Republican’s War on Women.”?)

    Attention Frontpage Readers! Coming soon to this website, a trilogy: “Ronald Reagan is wrong: Karl Marx is worthy of America’s Respect”, “Welcome the Socialist World into the Conservative Tent” and finally, “Ignoring Socialism Ensures a Democratic President in 2016.” Presented will be quotes from Marx about hard work, equality, justice and changing demographics. Commentary will include “Amnesty! It’s a Good Thing” by Ronny Torossian.

    One last thing Ronn T., you praised a rapper: “I’m not human, I”m a machine.” Turning human beings into machines, Ronn, is not a good thing among freedom loving individuals. However, it is a virtue among socialists.

  • Will

    Hey FrontPage Mag, after this “embrace hip-hop” campaign works miracles and delivers us sweeping victories all over the country, we can move on to porn. We’ve got like 50 million unregistered men watching porn, right? And porn often has plumbers coming over to fix the pipes, and that represents hard work and other conservative values. And I’m sure there’s got to be a porn with the word “dream” in it’s title, and dreaming is totally what people want to do, and they’ll see that the Republicans want them to dream, and then they’ll vote Republican, or something like that. Jackpot. I think we’re really onto something here.

  • mendezjb

    If you were in a city late at night, and a group a kids were walking towards you, which would be more likely to assault you?

    The
    kids carrying violins, violas, cellos etc who are classical music
    enthusiasts, or a group of kids with their pants around their ankles
    with $400 Dr Dre headphones who are “hip hop” fans?

    And
    sure these rappers work hard, but work hard doing what? The virtue of
    their hard work is directly tied to their output. The Cali drug cartel
    worked hard too. Hip Hop raps of violence, drugs, misogyny etc and
    behaving/acting like animals.

    • laura r

      i would profile (i like hiphop) & walk w/the cello. what can i say? so maybe i just insulted the next tupac, but thats the way i roll.

  • Race_Dissident

    What the hell is going on with FPM these days? Is Horowitz bound and gagged in Li’l Wayne’s basement on the outskirts of Newark? Well, whoever’s in charge nowadays, know this–“embracing” rap is a non-starter. I’d prefer the Left consolidate its burgeoning totalitarian state in the US rather than capitulate to the Left’s cultural barbarism, of which rap is both the nadir and the microcosm. And judging by the comments on this spate of sorry rapophilic articles, I’m not alone.

  • Kurt

    Hey Ross,check out hick hop on youtube. They like pickup trucks and guns.My favorites are the Lacs,Moccasin Creek,Jawga Boys,Colt Ford.They will scare the bejeezuz out of the ruling class.

  • let-r-go

    if that’s what conservatives need to do to win just let the lefties have it. I’m done. Have a nice day.

    • Kurt

      Listen to redneck rap its the best.Pro gun,pro america.Moccasin Creeks,Old America should be our anthem.

  • UCSPanther

    Oh sure: Let’s join the left and wallow in the gutter with them.

  • Donald J DaCosta

    There are “Conservatives” and there are conservative values, like the hard work and entrepreneurial spirit, endemic in Capitalism, that Mr. Torossian speaks of, in glowing terms, as being at the root of Hip Hop. Hip Hop is not the favorite genre of the majority of the over 50 crowd but is that of the millennials and Generation X crowd, the majority of whom voted for Obama; not once but twice. It is therefore not clear why Hip Hop has not had more of a conservative influence on those who it appeals to.

    While it is without doubt true that many of the so called conservatives are stodgy and from the old school, they are no more so than many of the democrats, liberals, progressives, etc.; Harry Reid comes to mind. So how and why do these equally stodgy individuals on the left have a greater influence on how the so called Hip Hop generation votes?

    It has been asserted, and rightfully so in my humble opinion, that republicans and conservatives have to stop trying to adjust their message so as to appeal and pander to individual groups and concentrate on articulating an essentially conservative message; defining conservative principles in simple, direct, easily understood terms. Those who read the Hip Hop message as more akin to that message should react at the ballot box accordingly if Mr. Torossian’s theory is correct.

    I appreciate the thrust of his message here but remain skeptical that an effort by conservatives to embrace the Hip Hop crowd is the winning strategy he envisions. Better to appeal to whatever conservative principles are inherent in the Hip Hop message by establishing those principles as being also inherent in the conservative platform and political agenda.

    • Kurt

      Please try Hick Hop,screw jz he,s a Obama zombie.

  • Marlin B. Newburn

    If a black kid can’t become a quick millionaire, they don’t have a chance in life. So that’s the problem.

    And here I thought an honorable goal would simply to be an honest and self-supporting citizen while working at a trade or profession – either of them earned over time through years of discipline and civilized living.

    Then again, just being someone like that rules out a Bentley in my future. Oh, the tragedy of it all.

  • Marlin B. Newburn

    So Mr. Torossian didn’t have any role models growing up. Oh, the tragedy of it all. Role models; the prime and only ingredient for success.

    So his preferred role models are misogynistic adult-children celebrating, through some primal beats and grunts, the killing and maiming of others while bedding anything that walks, crawls, or hasn’t been dead too long. Got it.

    Think I’ll check into the life of the Marquis de Sade and learn from the best. I can just see millions falling into my bank account, and that, right soon.

    Man, that was easy.

    • Kurt

      Redneck rap,pro american,pro gun,pro family.The Lacs,Colt Ford etc.

  • Martel

    If its up to Ronn, the next Presidential candidate will speak in Ebonics, wear baggy pants and shout “dang those honky’s” before every speech.

  • Kurt

    Hick Hop Is ignored by the media because it is rwing. Pro gun ,pro liberty,jump on the bandwagon.

  • GinoMachiavelli

    This country already crossed the event horizon in 2008 and will implode just like USSR did, suddenly.

    The good news is, new country will emerge, where “Hip Hop” will be a dirty word.

    And living in Gomorrah on the Hudson with kids? Nuken Futs…

    • Kurt

      Listen to redneck rap,proamerican,progun.Try the Lacs,Moccasin Creek.Their on youtube.

      • GinoMachiavelli

        I have Weird Al Yankovich “White and Nerdy” song on my Ipod.

        That’ll do.

        • Kurt

          Moccasin Creek song,Old America on youtube.Try it or are you scared I’m right.

  • TrueNorth777

    I simply could not wrap my head around why FPM were publishing these articles and baiting readers with flawed assumptions/flawed logic. So, I went old school and found this gem of an article “Why does the Music Industry keep “Underground Hip-Hop Music” Underground?” by Anthony Guzman, Global Research, August 2013. It’s not so much the title…it’s what the content reveals. Hope you can read it in full…

    Guzman writes:The Corporate Music industry has had a monopoly on what youths from all around the world listen to. They have been controlling the thoughts and beliefs of our youths and even adults through their control of the music industry. The Music industry is a multi-billion dollar business.”

    Excerpt: “JAY WOODSON (JW): What our options are in this political economy are options for profit, which benefits large corporations.This includes the entertainment industry. They give a very narrow message and image of what Black life is. It’s materialistic, about death, it’s about violence, and it’s about misogyny and any diverse or alternative messages and images of that…”

    Lauryn Hill offered considerable heartfelt insight into her struggle within the industry, “I abandoned greed, corruption, and compromise, …….never the artistic gifts and abilities that sustained me.”

    Rapper, CeeLoo, had this to say to Daily Beast: ” I believe hip hop is being used in some mass way to influence underachievement. Maybe these individuals may not be aware of the larger agenda, and how they’re being puppeteered, but if they are, that’s even more shameful.” Guzman: He is correct to point out that corporations “colonize” youth through music which promotes “underachievement” and depicts women in a negative way.”

    Guzman:There are many “underground Hip-Hop artists that are politically conscious-driven such as Common, Flobots, Dead Prez, Rebel Diaz and many others. …… “Lowkey and many other underground Hip-Hop artists are controversial to the corporate music world and even to average people who follow the main stream rappers.” (Google well-articulated lyrics to Lowkey’s Blood Sweat and Tears which push back on corporation influence.)
    ~~~~
    Well, now I get it. I knew there had to be a silver lining here somewhere. With all this Torossian protest and omission of facts, he has pushed us to do further research to understand and rather (inadvertently) let us realize there are many other inspirational and lesser known rapper artists who are not being promoted by top music industry labels because they don’t promote violence, money and sex. There are rappers who are very articulate and somewhat fearless who will NOT compromise their views or self-respect. These are the rappers I will watch for Mr. Torossian. Thank you for that.

  • TL2014

    More drivel. Can we please quit yapping about “outreach” to unreachable groups and start focusing on the neglected, frankly mistreated, and betrayed base? Thank you!

  • Von Stierlitz

    Next: “Republican” and “Conservative” gangsta-rap, death-grind-metal, oi-punk, EBM and Electro-goth.

    And don’t forget to include german, russian and arab folk-music, because otherwise people are going to vote for the likes of Hitler, Stalin and Bin Laden.

    • Drakken

      One thing is for sure, when you play Rammstein or AC/DC during Islamic noon prayer, you always get a reaction out of them.

      • Kurt

        Give hick hop a listen,progun,proamerican rap music. Try Moccasin Creeks,Old Amerca on YouTube .You won’t, be disappointed I promise.

  • TrueNorth777

    One more time, my post was removed. Look for an article from Global Research by anthony guzman called why does the music industry keep underground hip hop music underground. There exists many politically and socially aware rappers who go unrecognized or submerged BY the industry because they will not toe the billion dollar industry party line – these rappers are articulate and expose their struggles. –>>But executives have a lot to do with the larger agenda to emasculate and colonize. I believe hip hop is being used in some mass way to influence underachievement. Maybe these individuals may not be aware of the larger agenda, and how they’re being puppeteered, but if they are, that’s even more shameful.— Well worth the read.

    • laura r

      you said it better than i have. there are some amazing hip hoppers ot there. too bad no one here knows that.

  • g..man

    Bullsh!t. The repubs keep loosing because of weak center candidates. They loose because they reach across the isle instead of keeping in line with concervative standards. They lose because they will not shut the borders they lose because they attack the tea party. They lose because they will not stand up for the Constitution. Should I go on or do you get the point. Those are the reasons why the GOP loses. Not pandering to hip-hop will have nothing to do with winning or loosing in 2016. Mitt Romney a loser Chris Christie a loser Jen Bush a loser if those of the candidates we lose again

  • truebearing

    Ronn,

    You have succeeded in promoting hiphop to primarily young, uneducated people. You’re failing miserably here. You don’t understand conservatism. You don’t understand politics. And your only “priniciple” is being successful anyway you can. That smacks of the ends justifies the means, which is not a conservative principle. It is the antithesis to conservatism.

    You want conservatives to let the hiphopsters “create their own rulebook.” That sounds eerily similar to the Satanic commandment: “Do what thou wilt.” It certainly isn’t a conservative prescription for success.

    Other than the idiotic suggestion that conservatives let every uneducated, unprincipled, fool in America “write their own rules,” you haven’t provided any coherent recommendations as to how conservatives are supposed to reap the windfall of hiphop votes. All you have to offer is insults to conservatives, all the while telling us we should stop insulting hiphop. Your message has as little integrity as does your hiphop cash cow.

  • Well Done

    Um, I said, “Pardon?”

  • 8ball

    What idiocy is next for FPM? After embracing discordant, nerve racking, Rap Crap are we supposed to support Choice and SSM?

  • The Facts

    Here’s a Hip Hop song for you. You even get a shout out.
    http://youtu.be/dTAex-AHprM

    • laura r

      i like it. but i couldnt get the entire message.

  • LibertyLinda

    I completely disagree, I will not succumb to the cultural trash started by gangsters and is part of the cultural destruction of our country perpetuated by the Lib Leftists. Conservatives do NOT have to succumb to this garbage, just like they don’t have to “ignore social issues”. Conservative, Constitutional principles is inclusive of all groups of people and promotes the freedom for you to like rap and for me to turn it off – without Government intervention.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

    Ignoring the music aspect of things (as the music itself is something I don’t see as relevant per se), if Republicans want to reach new potential voters, they are going to have to advertise on media to which that potential audience listens, even if it is historically off-limits. This includes advertisements on urban radio formats (and out-of-home ads in the same areas) as well as on local ad time sold by cable operators on channels like BET (which is among the top-25 channels in the 18-49 demographic) and TVOne to at least spread the message into areas that are historically solid Democrat blocs…and often Democrat by default. (Not referring to hip-hop here, but) there is a reason why Pandora (internet radio) places ads for Democrat candidates on its jazz stations and ads for Republican candidates on country radio…with little backlash…because those listeners traditionally do trend that way at the ballot box (multiple articles have been written on this). That ignored urban audience is a swing vote in certain states.

    Notice what I did not say: compromise values. The problem that the Republican Party has is a communications problem. Obama won election twice because he had a 50-state strategy, while Republicans have tended to retreat instead of expand the electoral map.

  • Texas Patriot

    What’s odd is the idea that conservatives should embrace hiphop culture but reject the very traditional Christian Catholic culture of Hispanic Americans. Doesn’t sound very conservative to me.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

      I don’t think that the author means embrace the culture per se, but rather try to reach its listeners. The issue is a communications problem.

      • laura r

        i was R&B all the way. hip hop can be a good progression. but then again, i admit there is alot of trash out there. the lesser know people are sometimes the best.

        • Texas Patriot

          There is no comparison between R&B and hiphop. R&B grew out of the Southern Christian Gospel Music culture which also led to the great genres of rock & roll and rockabilly. Hiphop is a product of the nihilist philosophies of the Left and has nothing to do with authentic Christian values.

          • laura r

            the good hip hop has a gospel feeling. the junk is just noice w/no musical roots. philosophies are different w/each hip hop artist the piece.

          • Texas Patriot

            laura r: the good hip hop has a gospel feeling.

            Glad to hear it.

  • FrontPgSubscr

    The ‘Right’ DID NOT seal its fate (so to speak) by ignoring “Hip-Hop”, but they
    have been ignoring much bigger issues where they could make an impact in
    lives … WITHOUT pandering to Hip-Hop (that’s pretty shallow thinking)!! First
    step is to differentiate, if not dissociate, themselves from the banker and globalist (communitarian) crowd, and engage, time-wise, in day-to-day activities where
    average people are.

  • seewithyourowneyes

    I’ll support hip-hop if hip-hop “artists” will submit to a Paula Deen-style public show trial, complete with tears, confessions, apologies and begging for forgiveness. Snoop, Jay-Z, all of them, crying and begging for forgiveness for promoting drugs and violence against women.

  • liz

    This is a ridiculous argument. Conservatism is a set of political principles, not musical preferences. I’ve never been to a tea party or republican meeting where they demanded to know the musical tastes of anyone before they were allowed through the door. Anyone who shares conservative political views is welcomed.
    If people who listen to hip hop want to join the conservatives in supporting conservative causes, who is stopping them???

  • jeffrahal

    Best part of the entire article? This quote: “This is the third part of Ronn Torossian’s three-part series…” It’s over. Reminds me of the old Johnny Carson “Carnac” skit, when the crowd would cheer like mad when Ed would say,”our final question tonight.”

  • Ace Boogie

    Hey Ron Torossian, let me help you out with something. Conservatives are who they are because of what they believe. The type of music they listen to or embrace is not going to make a dyed in the wool leftist democrat become, or vote for a republican. Furthermore, there are a lot of hard working successful people that use their success to undermine the founding principles of America. By your own admission, none of the success attained by hip hop artists has made them conservative. Saying to them, ‘I like your music’ or how you wear your clothes will gain us not a vote or a contribution. You aim to appease – I aim to defeat them at every turn.

  • JeromefromLayton

    Hip Hop and Rap are parts of modern literature and arts. If that’s what it takes to get the word out, don’t pout, go ahead and shout! Ever see a rapper using a teleprompter? That’s because he knows the score so he doesn’t have to whore. From what I hear, this is gonna be a hell of a year.

  • Dino Brava

    Drug dealers practice capitalism. Why isn’t the GOP pandering to meth dealers? Murder-for-hire is a capitalist enterprise….the GOP should really go after the Mafia vote! This article is ridiculous. I noticed the author conveniently omitted the pervasive drug culture, extreme sexism, and abusive violence that is all but required in Hip Hop lyrics. Hmmm, gain the Hip Hop nation and lose your base…..sounds like a great plan!! Idiot!