Israel in 1968 & 2014: The Jews Are Alone

ds-6day_war-41In 1968, a longshoreman named Eric Hoffer wrote an amazing op-ed in the LA Times, which is as relevant today as it was then. He was a non-Jewish American social philosopher who wrote newspaper columns, as well as books. He died in 1983, after writing nine books and winning the Presidential Medal of Freedom. His first book, The True Believer, published in 1951, is widely recognized as a classic.  Eric Hoffer was one of the most influential American philosophers and free thinkers of the 20th Century. 

Acclaimed for his thoughts on fanaticism, Hoffer’s LA Times column from May 26, 1968 is worth rereading. Entitled “Israel’s peculiar position,” he said:

The Jews are a peculiar people: things permitted to other nations are forbidden to the Jews. Other nations drive out thousands, even millions of people and there is no refugee problem. Russia did it, Poland and Czechoslovakia did it.  Turkey threw out a million Greeks and Algeria a million Frenchman. Indonesia threw out heaven knows how many Chinese and no one says a word about refugees. But in the case of Israel, the displaced Arabs have become eternal refugees. Everyone insists that Israel must take back every single one.

Indeed, today in the year 2014 we hear about the Palestinian Arab claim for the right of return – yet no one discusses the one million Jews from Arab and Muslim states, who were forced to flee persecution, imprisonment and pogroms. While there is so much talk today about the need for refugees to be protected, Jewish refugees naturally are ignored.

Hoffer further states:

Other nations when victorious on the battlefield dictate peace terms. But when Israel is victorious, it must sue for peace. Everyone expects the Jews to be the only real Christians in this world. Other nations, when they are defeated, survive and recover but should Israel be defeated it would be destroyed. Had Nasser triumphed last June [1967], he would have wiped Israel off the map, and no one would have lifted a finger to save the Jews.

The facts are simply that in 1967, Israel tried desperately to avoid war, endlessly tried to avert it, and this young nation faced threats from the entire world. Israel won the defensive war, and indeed, to the victors go the spoils — even when they are Jewish.

In 1967, Hoffer said, 

There is a cry of outrage all over the world when people die in Vietnam or when two Blacks are executed in Rhodesia. But, when Hitler slaughtered Jews no one demonstrated against him.  The Swedes, who were ready to break off diplomatic relations with America because of what we did in Vietnam, did not let out a peep when Hitler was slaughtering Jews. They sent Hitler choice iron ore, and ball bearings, and serviced his troops in Norway. The Jews are alone in the world.

Indeed, in February 2014, in Central Africa, 800,000 Muslims have fled their homes, and an entire nation’s Muslims are endangered.  It’s not news – yet every time the Jews lift a finger to protect themselves, the world goes nuts.  As it was in 1968 when Hoffer wrote this article it is in the year 2014, when the world endlessly condemns and criticizes Israel – the Jews are alone in the world.

As Hoffer concluded, “I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish, the Holocaust will be upon us all.” Indeed, the enemies of Israel remain the enemies of America – there’s big Satan and little Satan for the Muslim fundamentalists.

And I, Ronn Torossian, realize that history often repeats itself – and this article from 1968 is just as relevant in 2014 as it was then.

Hoffer said in a later interview that

A world that did not lift a finger when Hitler was wiping out six million Jewish men, women, and children is now saying that the Jewish state of Israel will not survive if it does not come to terms with the Arabs. My feeling is that no one in this universe has the right and the competence to tell Israel what it has to do in order to survive. On the contrary, it is Israel that can tell us what to do. It can tell us that we shall not survive if we do not cultivate and celebrate courage, if we coddle traitors and deserters, bargain with terrorists, court enemies, and scorn friends.

President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry should heed these words – and stop kowtowing to terrorists.  They’d also do well to leave Israel alone – Israel remains the only country in the world that suffers universal criticism and condemnation.

Just last year Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused the international community of “deafening silence” in response to Hamas threatening to destroy Israel.  As Netanyahu said: “This weekend the leader of Hamas, sitting next to the Hamas leader of Gaza, a man who praised Osama Bin Laden, this weekend openly called for the destruction of Israel. Where was the outrage? Where were the U.N. resolutions? Where was President Abbas? Why weren’t Palestinian diplomats summoned to European and other capitals to explain why the PA president not only refused to condemn this but actually declared his intention to unite with Hamas? There was nothing. There was silence and it was deafening silence.”

Indeed, today as in 1968, Israel is very much alone.


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  • Rivki A.

    Just brilliant and just so accurate. The Pali Nazis come try to kill jews and the world watches

    • BigSticksWalkSoftly

      It’s not Palestinian peoples fault that white people in Europe can’t get along.

  • rosross

    More Israeli delusion. Israel does not represent Jews or Judaism and in fact gives both a bad name. Israel in 1968 had the support of world opinion, albeit sourced in ignorance and propaganda regarding Israel’s colonial war of foundation but support all the same.

    The only reason Israel no longer has world support is because, in modern, more enlightened times, few people will or can support occupation or colonisation let alone apartheid sourced in religious bigotry and racism.

    This issue is not about Jews. They are not a people they are a religion. Most do not live in Israel, never did and never will. This is purely about the oppression and subjugation of the indigenous Palestinians by the colonial ruler, Israel.

    Not dealing with that reality just means BDS will grow and within a few years Israel’s economy will be in ruins, as happened to South Africa, and occupation, colonisation and apartheid will end in a one-state solution – a democracy where indigenous Palestinians and colonial Israelis live together without religious discrimination.

    • StanleyT

      Not a single word of truth – not even “the”, “a” or “and”. Every word of your screed is a screed of blatant Jew hatred.l Your problem is that you have come to the wrong place to spout this utter garbage. People on this site know better than to be taken in by your bigotry and senseless hatred.

      • Drakken

        Let him spout his leftist drivel, it shows everybody what the rest of us will have to deal with.

    • ADM64

      Just curious: who is a people? Are we Americans a people? We don’t have common ancestry but we do have a common set of values (except those on the left). It seems to me that you’re talking about ethnicity (race) determining whether a group constitutes a “people.” By that standards, are the Palestinians distinct or are they ethnically Arabs living in a particular region? Go down the race/ethnicity road, and there’s lots of trouble to be found.

    • Painted Horse

      Oh well it’s settled then isn’t it. The most learned and all-knowing rosross has spoken. Again, saying the same old thing again. An old record with a scratch in it that keeps repeating the same over and over. You’re fond of telling people they don’t really know what they are talking about aren’t you? Yes you are, I’ve read your comments history. So you speak to enlighten us all… really? How wonderful for us.

    • zek

      This “logic” would lead to every Jew being marched into the Mediterranean Sea. Then there would be lasting peace for about 2 hours before the Palestinians & Arabs would likely begin fighting among themselves. You see no religious bigotry within Islam? No ethnocentrism? Forget about peace between Islam & Israel & Christians. How about between Sunnis and Shias, or Muslims & Hindus? There are great relations between India & Pakistan. I’d like to see an example of Islamic peace anywhere in the world where Muslims co-exist with their neighbors. Muslims cannot even get along with the ferocious Buddhist in Thailand.

      I fear for my country as it backs away from supporting Israel.

      • defcon 4

        Nasser used to crow about pushing the Jews into the sea, until they beat his islam0nazi apes back on every front.

    • kadodder

      Is this guy living on our planet?

    • reader

      “Israel’s claim of ‘threat’ from the Palestinians is not about any physical threat, it is the threat of members of Judaism not being a majority”

      Yes, and suicide bombers are not really killing people, they’re just making festivous fireworks. Aren’t you a tool, so uninhibited by conciousness that your blatanly vile orwellian denial of any semblance of reality does not even embarrass you.?

    • JoJoJams

      “Israel’s colonial war of foundation” ?!?!?!
      Do you mean their defensive war, after immediately being attacked the day of their formation by the United Nations? As another poster stated, “Is this guy living on our planet?”. Your alternate reality is interesting, in a very sad sort of way, and I pity you and your impoverished soul.

    • Hank Rearden

      Thank you. An excellent exposition of the anti-Israeli position.

      And it shows the world, or at least the readers of FP, the fact-free animosity of Israel’s enemies…

      1. Israel is the homeland of the Jews. It is the Jewish state. Of course, a lot of Jews don’t live in Israel. It is split about 50 – 50: there are about 12 million Jews in the world and about 6 million live in Israel. For those Jews who don’t live in Israel, Israel is still THERE.

      2. “Israel’s colonial war of foundation.” Sounds GREAT! Congratulations. What, however, does it MEAN? WHAT “colonial war of foundation?” Or do you hear voices?

      3. “…few people will or can support occupation or colonisation let alone apartheid sourced in religious bigotry and racism.” The point of the Hoffer quotes is that this is not true. Judaism is not a prosletyzing religion. You know. Like Islam is. What, after all, do you think the sword on the Saudi flag is meant to symbolize? How do you think that Islam spread from the Hijaz at the death of Mohammed to where it is now?

      4. You don’t think Israel is under threat? That is because you look down on Muslims in general and Palis in particular. You don’t think that the Muslims and the Palis mean what they say. You think they are so backward and so cowardly that when they threaten to wipe Israel out – and then put it in writing – YOU think they don’t mean what they say. That is called racism and bigotry. But Israelis are not racists and are not bigots and neither are the rest of us. We believe that the Muslims and the Palis mean EXACTLY what they say and have both the intelligence and the courage to carry it out – which they do, if not on a daily basis, at least on a frequent basis.

      You have done a great job. You have shown the racism, the animosity, and the intellectual cravenness that are the characteristics of anti-Israelis.

      Again, thank you.


      Muslims give Islam a bad name.

      World wide jihad gives Islam a bad name.

      As did 9/11, 1993 bombing of the WTC, the beheading of captives, the stoning to death of girls over laughable “family honor”, the use of poison gas, the deaths of 120,000+ in Syria, the ship hijackings, the mosque bombings, the Boston Marathon bombing, the acid thrown in the face of girls, the suicide bombings, the $100 per barrel oil, the London transport bombings..

      Happy ETERNAL NAKBA Pal-e-SWINE! You richly deserve every nakba that fall on you!

    • Drakken

      If you love and sympathize with those poor blighted souls of Jordan and Egypt? Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and go join them and really show those mean Jews your mettle? How much do you want to bet that you won’t? Your a puzzy leftard, go play in traffic for Darwin needs his due. You do realize that Rachel (St. Pancake) Corrie needs company right?

    • Laquisha7

      Rosross, Upon what planet have you been floating around? If someone threw bricks through your window day after day from your neighbors house and you had done nothing to incite their violence…if you had a gun would you choose not to finally defend yourself?

    • Habbgun

      You aren’t quite getting the argument are you. The world’s failures means that the world’s opinions matter little. Every piece of trash troll with an opinion on something besides crack comes here with there little warnings. Guess what? If the so called important leaders of the world can’t be expected to do justice (and just ask all the millions wiped out by communism how just the world is) how can some random crack addict judge. This pseudo-intellectual garbage is Europe’s worthless gift to the world. Next thing you know you’ll be writing learned discussions on Jewish Chess.

  • Richie A

    Obama and John Kerry want to put Israel alone – Maybe its part of a muslim plot. This guy is the real life “homeland” muslim.

  • Webb Cook

    The Palestinians are a fictional people who are not tolerated by Arab nations because they are dirty and go out of their way to be dirty. They are known and recognized by their filth. There is even a term for them that is synonymous with dirt because they blend in with dirt. The first time I noticed them they were sitting beside a trash pile in east Jerusalem and I was shocked to realize there were eyes glaring at me from people who blended in with the trash pile. Nothing can be done to help them. Nothing can be done for them. They reject civilization.

    • Guest

      Webb Cook, I wish someone would alert “swift-boat” Kerry that the voting public does not agree with his betrayal of our only real ally in the Middle East. Woe to the US if we listen to the Socialists running our country and turn on God’s chosen people in favor of savages.

  • lyndaaquarius

    say a heartfelt prayer every day for the survival and prosperity of Israel. Set your mind to their survival and to peace throughout the world.

    • BigSticksWalkSoftly

      And don’t forget to support the Christian Palestinians. Especially since Israel doesn’t.

  • defcon 4

    Let’s all cry for the poor, persecuted islam0nazis of the world…NOT.

    • JoJoJams

      You’re a pathetic soul, defcon zero.


        defcon 4 use of “NOT” negates, inverts what preceded it.

        It’s called SARCASM.

        Additionally if you see “/sarc” it’s the same thing.

        /sarc is a pseudo HTML tag. The /sarc would be closing tag, marking the end of a block of sarcastic text.

        • JoJoJams

          First reply got deleted (man, these censors are getting worse here! – there were minor “words” I used! – anyhow…)

          Thanks. (I guess…) I was doing this at work, and quickly scanning through, and misread him. Once I saw some of his other posts, I realized my mistake – too late to edit – and now I don’t want to because…. Sooorrrryyy!!!

          That said, I’ve corrected someone here who once did the same error and missed the sarcasm. I didn’t deign to play mister know-it-all and give a lesson, with links, on the definitions of words, though. I merely told him, “I believe you misread him – that was sarcasm.” and then a friendly wink. It goes down a lot better than a smarmy know-it-all post, especially among “friends”, but your correction is duly noted…

          • defcon 4

            I’m sorry because sarcasm is hard to detect when you’re writing it. If you see Screw Socialism write anything though you can be 99.99% certain I agree with whatever he writes.

  • Douglas Mayfield

    Although I am not Jewish, I observe that Israel is the one country in the Middle East in which there is respect for freedom and individual rights. Therefore I support Israel unreservedly and oppose the states surrounding it which are drenched in Islamic and Sharia induced brutality and slavery.
    Here in the United States we were, as a nation, foolish enough to elect, and then reelect, a socialist-nihilist to the office of the Presidency. (To be fair, the Republican party helped out enormously by nominating candidates, cowardly semi-socialist ‘me too’ Republicans, who did absolutely nothing to oppose Obama intellectually and morally.)
    Both our current President and his appointees are doing everything possible to impose socialist slavery (and third world status) on America and snuff out freedom and individual rights wherever they exist, including in Israel.
    Israel will have to fight on its own to survive. I wish them the best in doing so.

    • Donna Vernick

      I admire your intelligence, Mr. Mayfield. I have been watching as America’s Sheeple have gone astray and trips over the very foundation of our freedoms, as they keep playing “Ostrich” with their heads in the sand. The Scriptures declare, that “Israel & Jerusalem shall become a burdensome stone for all the nations of the earth, and all those who burden themselves with her, will be cut in pieces.” This is in process as we write. Mr. Mayfield, Baruch Ha Bah ba’ Shem Adonai! Blessed be he who comes in the Name of the Lord. < < <

      • BigSticksWalkSoftly

        You seem brainwashed

    • BigSticksWalkSoftly

      Your bunch of pale stale males are the scourge of modern American ideals.

  • Texas Patriot

    Great article. Amazingly clear and prescient for something written so long ago. The only thing Israel has to worry about is not being true to the God who gave them the land in the first place.

  • Waiting

    Interesting article. Mr. Hoffer had a lot of insight for a “longshoreman,” (often depicted in cinema as a bunch of tough guys without much education); indeed, more than most people having a say on the subject. Thanks for sharing a bit of his writings.
    The subject reminds me of chapter 38 in the book of Ezekiel.

  • J H

    When Kerry was speaking in the Israeli Kenesset (Parliament), he was heckled by Arab MP’s, screaming that Israel is an apartheid state. Can anyone think of anything more ironic??
    Arabs in Israels’ government, exercising their right to free speech while saying they live in an apartheid state. Classic.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “Arabs in Israels’ government, exercising their right to free speech while saying they live in an apartheid state. Classic.”

      As MPs!!!

      • BigSticksWalkSoftly

        Arabs make up 60% of israel. They are called mazrahi.
        You are obviously ignorant, racist and an islamophobe.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          Jihadis want 100% sharia. That’s not democratic so it doesn’t really matter what percentage we’re talking about. Anything short of sharia can be characterized as unjust and apartheid by jihadi liars and their stupid dupes.

        • J H

          Mazrahi are actually the people referred to in Israel who are JEWS that came from Muslim-majority countries.

          I’m not really sure why i’m wasting my time responding to an idiot..

    • BigSticksWalkSoftly

      Is that kinda like when the zionazi Knesset members walked out when the German representative called them out for stealing all the water and draining the Jordan river for their communist kibbutzes?

  • Erudite Mavin

    Good to see remarks on Hoffer and his book, “The True Believer”
    That book is more relevant today than ever

  • Joel Raupe

    I’ll write something that would have made Hoffer chuckle. “Thank God for Eric Hoffer,” indeed. His “classic,” The True Believer, remains the seminal work that explicitly explained mass movements, why people join cults, etc. While not agreeing on every point of that work, had it become required reading at Foggy Bottom and the West Wing in October 2011, our subsequent interactions with the Muslim world would certainly have been more definitive.

  • wileyvet

    None of these anti-Israel douches ever mentions how it is that Arabs are in so many places in the Middle East that previously, throughout history, were neither Arab or Islamic. Of course they took and occupied these lands in wars of conquest. Naturally they did not call it imperialism, or colonialism but the result is the same. What about the centuries old cultures, and practices that were swept aside by the Muslim hoards, and the millions murdered and enslaved through Jihad as they poured out of Arabia. This is perfectly acceptable to Muslims because of their supremacist religion. I ask then, who is occupying whom?

    • BigSticksWalkSoftly

      You are an UNAMERICAN islamophobe. Go curse a Christian cemetery while driving to your Zionist-only communist kibbutz.
      My tax dollars deserve better than to unconditionally support apartheid lovers

      • wileyvet

        I am UnAmerican because I happen to be Canadian. So you have no problem then with your tax dollars supporting the murderous Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, or any and all Muslim countries that wish to wipe Israel off the map. The problems in the Middle East have nothing to do with Israel. There is no such thing as a distinct people called Palestinians, but a fabrication by the PLO. The problem lies in a supremacist Quasi-religion called Islam. They have been waging was against infidels for nearly 1400 years, driven by the insane dogma of Islam’s founder Mohammad, as laid down in the Koran. Mein Kampf had nothing on this book. You should really try to learn a little history, and observe current events. Listen to what Islamic leaders say and see how their countries implement Sharia Law. While there are one million Arabs that have Israeli citizenship, serve in their military and the Knesset, Jews and Christians are not even allowed in Mecca. Keep giving excuses to the bigoted mysogonistic ideology of Islam, so you can fuel your Jew and Christian hatred. If you are not a Muslim already, you do a good impression of one.

        • BigSticksWalkSoftly

          In that case you are unCanadian and an islamophobic commie lover. You obviously don’t know any Muslims and like to sleep on your mommys couch similar to the zionazi mooches who waste American tax money and provide no benefits to us in the West. Go worship the falsehood of Sykes-Picot on someone else’s dime.
          Palestinians are humans just like anyone else. Just because white European Christian fascist cant get along doesn’t mean Palestinians need to suffer.

          You do know 20% of Palestinians are Christians? I guess they don’t teach you that on your Canadien commie kubbitz mr pale stale male.

          • Diane DeMarco

            You are a moron! Won’t even dignify your rantings with an answer.

          • BigSticksWalkSoftly

            You are a racist and support the killing of goat herders and olive growers. Shame on you for your pathetic and un Christian evil hate speech. Pale stale and like a male.

  • Randy Townsend

    With God’s help, the Jews prevailed in 1968. They will do so again. They are the chosen people of God, not the Arabs, and the Bible is clear that the Jews will not be defeated by their enemies. The Jews are not alone: They have the power of God with them.

    • Laquisha7

      The weak traitors in Washington would be wise to remember that.WE might change, But God doesn’t.

  • SoCalMike

    Don’t expect American media sell outs at the NY Slimes/Times or the Washington ComPost to call Kerry or Obama out on asking Israel to commit suicide. These same wretches stayed silent when Hitler was busy murdering 6 million Jews. Is it any wonder they are silent now as Obama and Kerry are helping Iran and the rest of the Middle East countries try to finish what Hitler started?
    If they just call it a “peace process” then they think no one will notice.
    Sadly far too many don’t.

  • CrossWinds

    Jeremiah 30:7……..
    Alas! For that day is great, So that none is like it; And it is the time of Jacob’s trouble, But he shall be saved out of it.

    …Daniel 12:1
    …… And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time; but at that time your people shall be delivered, every one whose name shall be found written in the book.

  • Soxtory

    Israel will get no help from Obama, the Democrat party or any support from the New York Times.


    The world has always had a double standard for Jews when it comes to self-defense and survival as a nation and a people. To this anti-Semitic world, they are to be as sheep to be slaughtered in silence, while the world approves by its silence. That was what the Holocaust was about.


    Israel is the last refuge for a people that lived among gentiles without a land to call their own for nearly two millennia-until 1948. And in all that time, they were never allowed to live in peace, no matter where they lived. This world with its irrational hatred for a nation without just seems determined to drive Israel and its people off planet Earth. Why? What has Israel and its people done to deserve such loathing? Simply existing?

  • rjm

    The bible predicts that in the end times, Israel will be alone. But do not be afraid because the Lord Jesus Christ return is imminent. We would be wise to bless Israel because those who curse Israel will be cursed, unfortunately John Kerry and Obama curse and condemn the Israelites.

  • blert

    Though highly classified — for obvious reasons — there are reasons to believe that the Arab-Israeli confrontation of early 1967 period was a SOVIET grand design — not Nasser’s.
    The KGB and GRU had gotten wind of the Israeli march to the Bomb at Dimona.
    (Thank you CIA and MI6 moles.)

    The Moscow plan was to get the ball rolling — with Nasser as an “icebreaker.”
    He would be what Moscow terms a First Eschelon force. Thinking only of success, Moscow intended that the Spetsnaz would fulfill their Primary Mission: To don false uniforms and attack Western (now, Israeli) atomic assets. That attack would likely have been staged as an ‘atomic work accident’ that went awry during the tumult of war. That outcome was the basis for “The Fourth Protocol.” It, the scenario, had been muted in classified circles for years on end.

    (ALL other Spetsnaz missions are entirely secondary. If the balloon had gone up, this gambit was to occur in NATO Germany.)

    After that, Moscow didn’t give a dang what the Arabs pulled off. Moscow never, ever, imagined that Egypt would be so totally punked by the IDF — particularly the Israeli Air Force. They’d adjusted Nasser’s positions so that he’d not suffer the fiasco that Stalin did, June 22, 1941 — when the big brain put all of the Red Army’s assets right at the front line. (Air strips only 800 meters from izaN forces in Poland? No wonder Stalin lost everthing at the front!)

    In sum, the 1967 Arab Israeli war was actually the substitute for a Warsaw Pact assault on NATO. Few comprehend this — even now. The West’s proxy: Israel utterly crushed the Soviet proxy: Egypt. (Syria was an after thought, Jordan was a Britist ally. See “Lawrence of Arabia” for that Hashemite connection.

    The outcome was so shocking to Moscow that all thoughts of scaling it up — of taking on NATO evaporated.

    Had it worked, Moscow thought that Europe would eject American atomics. Again, this is the plot centrality of both “Fourth Protocol” and “Octopussy.” these novels and films merely reflect the un-admitted reality: this is how Moscow operated.

    The upshot: virtually everything that’s being muted about the Seven Days War is all wrong. It was not about Arabs and Israelis. It was about the Reds vs NATO.

    Seeing even French aircraft and French tanks totally take the Red Army gear and tactics apart put a real hitch in the Red Army’s giddyup.

    Even now, the public does not know how close Armegeddon came, nor that Armegeddon was fought in the Sinai, the Golan and Jerusalem, instead.

    Like all of these over tricky schemes, it remains deniable to this very day.

    Letting Tehran get the bomb is an after glow of what transpired in 1967. Moscow sees the West’s confrontation as a turn-about from what terrified the Communists. Moscow is actually dull enough to look past the fact that Iran is no more controlable than izaN Germany.

    Say, how did that turn out for Stalin, for the Red Army, for the nation?

    So much for the deep thinkers over there.

    • defcon 4

      The Red Army didn’t take part in the “Seven Days War” ‘tard. I won’t even bother to correct your evident stupidity in that reference either.

      • blert

        The KGB didn’t put you on their reading list.

        WHAT a surprise.

        Look up “deniability” — also study up on “manipulation” — in any event, study up on “wars by proxy” …

        Sheesh, what a ‘tard.

        As if the Arabs actually paid for their armies!

        Other terms to study:”Soviet advisors” … “technical assistence” …

        And the Red Army ‘volunteers’ during the:

        Korean War
        Vietnamese War
        Cuban Crisis

        They have all been excised from ‘popular’ histories.

        As to Moscow strategically turning against Israel — way back when — pick up any decent history book.

        At least your pseudonymn fits.

        • defcon 4

          Yeah, the Soviets engineered the “Seven Days War” in hopes of triggering a world conflict w/NATO. How did I not see that? Do you have any proof of your concept?

          • blert

            The Reds used proxy armies ALL THE WAY THROUGH the Cold War.

            You have a severe reading comprehension problem.

            The gambit was to cause the Europeans to reject and eject American atomic weapons, the heart an soul of NATO defense.

            Later, during the 80’s Moscow went right back to this theme. This is now open and on the record. The Spetsnaz gambit was not used — but STILL constituted Mission Number One. No-one in modern Russia disputes that proirity.

            THE classic final Spetsnaz trainging exercise consisted of invading their own atomic facilities — to the great embarrassment of its own elite defense troops. (Moscow knew that the West used strictly elite troops when and where atomics were involved.)

            You are going off on a tangent.

            This notion was THE key plot device in both of the above films. In which case, about a billion souls have seen such a scenario fictionalized.

            Even Jerusalem did not put the pieces together — at that time. It became known only well after the fact… yet still perfectly deniable. Typical spook craft.

            Again, to repeat, the entire project died before it even got rolling. Like the Russian invasion of Poland: 1941 the other guy beat them to the punch.

            The (Soviet strategy and tactics) linkage between 1941 and 1967 is only now pulling into view.

            Suvorov has the goods on 1941 — visit youtube. In 1967 the Red Army had the Egyptians inverting everything that Stalin did wrong in 1941; starting with pulling the air force assets out of harms way and digging in all tanks — to hide them.

          • defcon 4

            Yeah, the muslimes didn’t want to invade Israel, three times.

          • blert

            Without Soviet weapons the Egyptians couldn’t afford to drive to the border.
            They also couldn’t feed themselves.
            The Red Army pulled the same gambits, after a fashion, in Spain.
            As for WANTING… by doctrine, Muslims want to go on jihad every time they wake up.
            Proxy armies and sockpuppets are all over Araby.
            Back when the Muslims were on top, they consistently used others to do their fighting.
            Moscow was trying to line up their ducks — but the Arabs — all of them — proved to be so inept that the entire gambit blew up before Cairo could pull the trigger.

            Back in ’56 Paris convinced Tel Aviv to join up and attack into the Sinai. Paris even got London on board.
            This particular circus was undone by the U-2 spy plane. All three capitals were lying to Ike about everything critical. Ultimately, the players found out that Ike knew more about their field armies actual positions than they did.

            (Generals don’t always tell their masters everything. Read Guderian’s account of his march to the English Channel in Panzer Leader.)
            Looking back, Moscow thought that what had happened before would work even better going the other direction. In particular, Moscow discovered (by its moles) that the CIA had gifted the Israelis enough Uranium to boot up their own atomic program.

            Moscow didn’t look with favor on said project anymore than Washington looked upon Tehran’s project. Moscow had no other effective means to stop the Israelis, period. That’s when it occurred to the Soviets that a reverse ’56 followed by an atomic work accident would cause the rest of Europe to follow France’s example, kicking America’s atomic weapons out of Europe.
            Immediately after the Six Day War, top Israeli officials made no bones about putting down the Red Army, by proxy. Israel shared a L O T of dope with the Americans. This is when the Israeli-American military connection bloomed. Until late 1967 Tel Aviv’s primary Western backer had always been France. We’re talking military hardware. Israel ended up having to steal, from France, gear that she’d already paid for! De Gaulle had embargoed said equipment. This began the French love affair with the Arab oil exporters. Peak American oil was already pulling into view.

            To re-cap: the Six Day War involves far larger principles than the obvious participants. Those issues and players wanted then — and still — to stay in the shadows.
            We are seeing an echo of the same dynamic as the fanatics in Tehran amble to the Bomb.
            It may well prove that Putin is, in fact, actually frustrating the Iranians — on the ultra down low. In a variant of STUXNET, Russian technicians could be laying down caltrops for Iranian engineers to stumble across, every step of the way.

            Something like that seems to be unfolding, as the Iranians are r e a l l y moving slowly. They have the slowest progress to the Bomb of any nation. What’s up?

    • Drakken

      Interesting read, you have one error though, there were no French tanks, there were American m48’s, refitted Shermans British Centurions, but they did have French planes.

    • guest

      It may have been Reds versus Nato. But you can’t take away what the Israeli tankers did to win that war against the overwhelming soviet hardware. It must burn the soviets to no end that the arabs couldn’t win with such overkill. It just proves that it’s the soldier not the hardware. The reds build good machines, but they just don’t get that first principle. It seems it’s endless misery until they do, or until they are destroyed. And for the Israelis, the arabs are not smart enough to give up. It’s a sad conclusion. But it leaves only one way out. The arabs and their conquered have been practicing open human sacrifice since the 1980’s. So we’re in four decades of it now. What response is appropriate, you tell me. A large part of humanity has failed, and they’re wallowing in it. Making us watch. I’m kinda sick of it. The jews wouldn’t be so alone if they had a better offense. They just don’t know how to move the ball.

  • Nabuquduriuzhur

    “A world that did not lift a finger when Hitler was wiping out six million Jewish men, women, and children ”

    The U.S. enlisted more than 16,000,000 in WWII to fight both Nazism and Japan.

    417,000+ U.S. servicemen died in that war.

    I wouldn’t call that nothing.

    • logdon

      There was a little matter of Pearl Harbor and the fact that Hitler declared war on America.

      I’m not quite sure how defending the Jews fits in to that scenario.

      Sorry, try again, this time with real facts, not 2+2 =5.

    • aemoreira81

      The aim of WWII was to defeat Germany and Japan—who had declared war on the USA prior to the USA’s declarations of war against them. Only as American and British forces pushed east through Germany and Poland did the aim actually turn toward freeing those remaining in the concentration camps who hadn’t already been sent on death marches.

  • ricpic

    The fact is that whenever the pagan tide rises Jews are in terrible danger. At bottom the hatred for Jews is the hatred of God. Of course individually Jews are as mixed a lot as non-Jews. It is as a separate and distinct people that Jews embody the pact with God. That is what enrages the idolatrous: the Jewish pact with God.

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  • BigSticksWalkSoftly

    I just love it when the army of pale stale males claim to know anything about Palestinians.
    Thankfully, when pale stale males congregate, it’s my signal to run for the hills and sell my stocks lol!

  • Justyna Bakeman

    Ah Jews!! They are not peculiar. What they are, tthey are they are the most intelligent, hard-working and family oriented people on Earth. Their intelligence is what made Nazis afraid. Their intelligence is what makes me alive! Bow to this.
    Signed: the Pole