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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfthatknowsall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is, indeed ...


In one incarnation, or another, the Brigade fought almost the entire Vietnam War, penetrating one border or another to kill the enemy .. their whole purpose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is, indeed &#8230;</p>
<p>In one incarnation, or another, the Brigade fought almost the entire Vietnam War, penetrating one border or another to kill the enemy .. their whole purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That does not seem to fit the book Devil&#039;s Guard.  Supposedly the International Left rose such a stink that the brigade was disbanded by the south Vietnamese government.

Maybe it was reconstituted again a short while later with the same or slightly different group of individuals.

Like I said a web search on this subject is HeII.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That does not seem to fit the book Devil&#8217;s Guard.  Supposedly the International Left rose such a stink that the brigade was disbanded by the south Vietnamese government.</p>
<p>Maybe it was reconstituted again a short while later with the same or slightly different group of individuals.</p>
<p>Like I said a web search on this subject is HeII.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfthatknowsall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Waffen SS was elite, it was a matter of of increased number of battalions in each division, and the best equipment being funneled to them.  They were expected to fight to the death, and many of them did.  The fighting qualities of each SS man were substantially ... if any ... greater than the average German soldier.

From the standpoint of doctrine, the SS were &quot;elite&quot;.  On a man-to-man basis, however, there was little if any superiority in the SS man as compared to a member of the regular army.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Waffen SS was elite, it was a matter of of increased number of battalions in each division, and the best equipment being funneled to them.  They were expected to fight to the death, and many of them did.  The fighting qualities of each SS man were substantially &#8230; if any &#8230; greater than the average German soldier.</p>
<p>From the standpoint of doctrine, the SS were &#8220;elite&#8221;.  On a man-to-man basis, however, there was little if any superiority in the SS man as compared to a member of the regular army.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfthatknowsall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Papen and the rest of his people underestimated the radical nature and ruthlessness of H!tler and his people.  President Hindenburg was old and rapidly going senile, and was not able to comprehend the man, or his movement.

For example, at the torchlight parade that marked H!tler&#039;s appointment to Chancellor, Hindenburg was concerned about the &quot;French&quot;, as he gazed on the parade ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Papen and the rest of his people underestimated the radical nature and ruthlessness of H!tler and his people.  President Hindenburg was old and rapidly going senile, and was not able to comprehend the man, or his movement.</p>
<p>For example, at the torchlight parade that marked H!tler&#8217;s appointment to Chancellor, Hindenburg was concerned about the &#8220;French&#8221;, as he gazed on the parade &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfthatknowsall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On my father&#039;s side, so is mine ... Germany and Prussia.  I have many family members who live in the Magdeburg area.  We are related to Georg Friedrich, the Prince of Prussia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Friedrich,_Prince_of_Prussia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my father&#8217;s side, so is mine &#8230; Germany and Prussia.  I have many family members who live in the Magdeburg area.  We are related to Georg Friedrich, the Prince of Prussia.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Friedrich,_Prince_of_Prussia" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Friedrich,_Prince_of_Prussia</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfthatknowsall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually met their commander in 1968 ... sorry, I don&#039;t remember his name.  He was a hard-bitten, dangerous-looking, talking, and acting man.  He wouldn&#039;t tell me what they were doing, but I suspected that they heading for Cambodia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually met their commander in 1968 &#8230; sorry, I don&#8217;t remember his name.  He was a hard-bitten, dangerous-looking, talking, and acting man.  He wouldn&#8217;t tell me what they were doing, but I suspected that they heading for Cambodia.</p>
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		<title>By: Habbgun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Habbgun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Drakken,

I&#039;m aware of what you say but let&#039;s face it there are some people who need to hear they represent a very dark side of life. That just because what comes out of their mouth is &quot;European&quot; it is not elevated. The Europe I am speaking about is the cluster***** that came from the elites and that shoves Eurabia and Obamacare and crime and everything else down our throats in Europe and America. They need their sense of superiority not just challenged but flushed away.

There is a part of Europe that understood freedom and honor and fighting to the last. Unfortunately those ideas seem to so many ridiculous and wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drakken,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware of what you say but let&#8217;s face it there are some people who need to hear they represent a very dark side of life. That just because what comes out of their mouth is &#8220;European&#8221; it is not elevated. The Europe I am speaking about is the cluster***** that came from the elites and that shoves Eurabia and Obamacare and crime and everything else down our throats in Europe and America. They need their sense of superiority not just challenged but flushed away.</p>
<p>There is a part of Europe that understood freedom and honor and fighting to the last. Unfortunately those ideas seem to so many ridiculous and wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From your knowledge did they fight after 1963?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From your knowledge did they fight after 1963?</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You realize that Norway had more SS birthing centers than Germany right?

I suppose you want Norway wiped of the map too?

Did you see the Norwegian name in the comments below?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize that Norway had more SS birthing centers than Germany right?</p>
<p>I suppose you want Norway wiped of the map too?</p>
<p>Did you see the Norwegian name in the comments below?</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A German SS instructor was discussed racial ideology with his SS students and it disturbed the Dutch and Nordic volunteers.  It created a stir in the school and the admin  discussed it for 2 or 3 days.  

Solution was for the instructor to join a unit on the Russian front. Problem solved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A German SS instructor was discussed racial ideology with his SS students and it disturbed the Dutch and Nordic volunteers.  It created a stir in the school and the admin  discussed it for 2 or 3 days.  </p>
<p>Solution was for the instructor to join a unit on the Russian front. Problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FPM has done an article on him before about a year or two ago.  I have seen a film review of &quot;The Tin Drum&quot; a long time ago. The movie and the gushing Holly wood film review (decades ago) made no sense, which is par for the course.

To me &quot;The Tin Drum&quot; and &quot;Slaughterhouse 5&quot; makes sense now. They are both written in by psychologically damaged individuals, who were traumatized by the war.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FPM has done an article on him before about a year or two ago.  I have seen a film review of &#8220;The Tin Drum&#8221; a long time ago. The movie and the gushing Holly wood film review (decades ago) made no sense, which is par for the course.</p>
<p>To me &#8220;The Tin Drum&#8221; and &#8220;Slaughterhouse 5&#8243; makes sense now. They are both written in by psychologically damaged individuals, who were traumatized by the war.</p>
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		<title>By: Papua</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Papua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not always. A German from New Guinea schooled in Australia, and head prefect there, happened to be visiting his folks back in Germany when war broke out. A very good swimmer he was drafted into the navy and commanded a U-boat for most of the war. His boat was sunk at the end of 1944 but he had been ill at the time so wasn&#039;t on it thus he survived the war but never returned to New Guinea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not always. A German from New Guinea schooled in Australia, and head prefect there, happened to be visiting his folks back in Germany when war broke out. A very good swimmer he was drafted into the navy and commanded a U-boat for most of the war. His boat was sunk at the end of 1944 but he had been ill at the time so wasn&#8217;t on it thus he survived the war but never returned to New Guinea.</p>
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		<title>By: George Surname</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Surname]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 07:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Held up as an exemplar by the journo-shmournos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Held up as an exemplar by the journo-shmournos.</p>
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		<title>By: Koldobika</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Koldobika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 06:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only a jew can write so much brainwashing, half lies and half thruths, as usual.
The Waffen SS was a front line elite group, where half of all the people that volunteered were not of German origin but from all around Europe; they were the warriors of the German Army, and a lot of myths were have been written about them.
Pathetic essay!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a jew can write so much brainwashing, half lies and half thruths, as usual.<br />
The Waffen SS was a front line elite group, where half of all the people that volunteered were not of German origin but from all around Europe; they were the warriors of the German Army, and a lot of myths were have been written about them.<br />
Pathetic essay!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Larkin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Larkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was the volunteers, not the general run of the mill sailors who were posted there.  Most of the navy was fairly non-nazi, but the U-boot service volunteers had to be nazis in good standing because of the nature of the service.  It had an extremely high casualty rate and they were suspicious of anybody who volunteered for it.  There fore, if you put your hand up, they wanted to make sure you weren&#039;t an enemy agent of some sort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the volunteers, not the general run of the mill sailors who were posted there.  Most of the navy was fairly non-nazi, but the U-boot service volunteers had to be nazis in good standing because of the nature of the service.  It had an extremely high casualty rate and they were suspicious of anybody who volunteered for it.  There fore, if you put your hand up, they wanted to make sure you weren&#8217;t an enemy agent of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Shmalkandik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shmalkandik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do remember that Hitler could not have become Reich Chancellor without the support of on Pappen and his Nationalist party. The Nationalists were afraid of the Communists because of the success they had in the same election. They though they could include and then co-opt the NSDAP. Wrong!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do remember that Hitler could not have become Reich Chancellor without the support of on Pappen and his Nationalist party. The Nationalists were afraid of the Communists because of the success they had in the same election. They though they could include and then co-opt the NSDAP. Wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: Shmalkandik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shmalkandik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was uner a very different impression. Can you cite a source abut NSDAP domination of the undersea serivice?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was uner a very different impression. Can you cite a source abut NSDAP domination of the undersea serivice?</p>
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		<title>By: Nabukuduriuzhur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nabukuduriuzhur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sad fact is that most Germans voted for Hitler in 1932 because of 50% unemployment. People were starving. Like now, the number of true believers in national socialism or communism were probably less than a third of the total public. 

The average German didn&#039;t have dreams of world conquest or a hate of Israel. Most were scared to death when the war broke out, because of their experience in WW1.

But as one victory happened after another (until late 1942) they became more and more convinced.

Until things started to crash in 1943. Then, it became a dogged determination to not be taken by the Russians or made into a cow pasture (which was a plan that was floated and then tossed by the Allies, but Goebbels made a lot of propaganda hay with it). It was clear that they wouldn&#039;t receive any mercy from the Russians or Allies, so they kept fighting long after there was any reason to fight.

One of the more idiotic things claimed today is that the Germans as a whole knew about the death camps. In a completely compartmentalized government, it was easy to keep knowledge of the camps from spreading. Most of it was dismissed as rumors. Half the Wehrmacht would have rebelled if they had known what was going on in the camps. They thought of themselves as soldiers rather than genocidal butchers. Illusions, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad fact is that most Germans voted for Hitler in 1932 because of 50% unemployment. People were starving. Like now, the number of true believers in national socialism or communism were probably less than a third of the total public. </p>
<p>The average German didn&#8217;t have dreams of world conquest or a hate of Israel. Most were scared to death when the war broke out, because of their experience in WW1.</p>
<p>But as one victory happened after another (until late 1942) they became more and more convinced.</p>
<p>Until things started to crash in 1943. Then, it became a dogged determination to not be taken by the Russians or made into a cow pasture (which was a plan that was floated and then tossed by the Allies, but Goebbels made a lot of propaganda hay with it). It was clear that they wouldn&#8217;t receive any mercy from the Russians or Allies, so they kept fighting long after there was any reason to fight.</p>
<p>One of the more idiotic things claimed today is that the Germans as a whole knew about the death camps. In a completely compartmentalized government, it was easy to keep knowledge of the camps from spreading. Most of it was dismissed as rumors. Half the Wehrmacht would have rebelled if they had known what was going on in the camps. They thought of themselves as soldiers rather than genocidal butchers. Illusions, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Easy there Gee. My family is deeply rooted in Germany and Austria.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy there Gee. My family is deeply rooted in Germany and Austria.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, they are not majority anti-Us/Israel/jew haters friend, you might be talking about the political elites, not the common man, who for now is sitting silently as the world becomes undone. That silence won&#039;t last too much longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, they are not majority anti-Us/Israel/jew haters friend, you might be talking about the political elites, not the common man, who for now is sitting silently as the world becomes undone. That silence won&#8217;t last too much longer.</p>
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