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		<title>By: Roy_Cam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Black Book of Communism&quot; is the most detailed, documented book on Red Terror. 

Your comments reflect the fact that you simply are only incompletely informed. 

As I said, I will find the page with the compilation of the murders and deaths and get back to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Black Book of Communism&#8221; is the most detailed, documented book on Red Terror. </p>
<p>Your comments reflect the fact that you simply are only incompletely informed. </p>
<p>As I said, I will find the page with the compilation of the murders and deaths and get back to you.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re preaching to the choir. But you&#039;re running a risk of discrediting yourself by lumping and mixing up factual info. Yes, Lenin was a murderous thug who ordered teenage girls to be taken hostage and executed mercilessly, but he could not possibly kill 8 million people in Ukraine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re preaching to the choir. But you&#8217;re running a risk of discrediting yourself by lumping and mixing up factual info. Yes, Lenin was a murderous thug who ordered teenage girls to be taken hostage and executed mercilessly, but he could not possibly kill 8 million people in Ukraine.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy_Cam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy_Cam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll get back to you on this when I find the tally page in &quot;Black Book&quot;.....

You should read it. It&#039;s the best summary of Red terror.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll get back to you on this when I find the tally page in &#8220;Black Book&#8221;&#8230;..</p>
<p>You should read it. It&#8217;s the best summary of Red terror.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a bit of available information: Lenin was dead by the end of January 1924. By credible accounts, he was removed from power and isolated in a Moscow suburb of Gorki by 1922. That&#039;s when NEP was still in effect after the Red Army&#039;s defeated at Warsaw in 1920 and consequent anti-bolshevik revolts at Tambov, Kroshtadt and a few other places. In 1918 Ukraine was occupied by Reichswehr, and, in 1919-1920, she saw all kinds of hosilities, certainly resulting in murders and atrocities - but nowhere near the scale you&#039;re talking about. 8 million people constitute about a third of Ukrainian population at the time. No way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a bit of available information: Lenin was dead by the end of January 1924. By credible accounts, he was removed from power and isolated in a Moscow suburb of Gorki by 1922. That&#8217;s when NEP was still in effect after the Red Army&#8217;s defeated at Warsaw in 1920 and consequent anti-bolshevik revolts at Tambov, Kroshtadt and a few other places. In 1918 Ukraine was occupied by Reichswehr, and, in 1919-1920, she saw all kinds of hosilities, certainly resulting in murders and atrocities &#8211; but nowhere near the scale you&#8217;re talking about. 8 million people constitute about a third of Ukrainian population at the time. No way.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy_Cam</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read &quot;The Black Book of Communism&quot; and you will see that Lenin did preside over mass deportations and executions of millions of ordinary folk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read &#8220;The Black Book of Communism&#8221; and you will see that Lenin did preside over mass deportations and executions of millions of ordinary folk.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy_Cam</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read it when it came out almost 40 years ago. 

There is a lot more information, a lot of records available now, that were not available when Solzhenitsyn wrote the &quot;Gulag&quot;. 

Stood right next to him in a bookstore on Telegraph Ave. Couldn&#039;t believe my eyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read it when it came out almost 40 years ago. </p>
<p>There is a lot more information, a lot of records available now, that were not available when Solzhenitsyn wrote the &#8220;Gulag&#8221;. </p>
<p>Stood right next to him in a bookstore on Telegraph Ave. Couldn&#8217;t believe my eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyway you cut it, there were one way or another going to be a lot of people sent to the gulags, for commis always eat each other sooner or later. Stalin just understood human nature better than Lenin did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway you cut it, there were one way or another going to be a lot of people sent to the gulags, for commis always eat each other sooner or later. Stalin just understood human nature better than Lenin did.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What made Stalin so dangerous was he understood and used to his benefit, human nature and used it like a cunning animal that he was, everybody mistook him for a dullard and he was anything but. That is why anyone of the so called intellectual class always ended up in front of a wall, for they did not understand Stalin&#039;s ruthless efficiency and it cost them their lives.  Even Beria in the end got his.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What made Stalin so dangerous was he understood and used to his benefit, human nature and used it like a cunning animal that he was, everybody mistook him for a dullard and he was anything but. That is why anyone of the so called intellectual class always ended up in front of a wall, for they did not understand Stalin&#8217;s ruthless efficiency and it cost them their lives.  Even Beria in the end got his.</p>
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		<title>By: 11bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[11bravo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article didn&#039;t get much into the &quot;mass slaughter&quot;. He was more into the henchmen and the genesis, and just like why Lanza shot up Sandyhook - I don&#039;t care - it louses up the point of communism The purges in China, and the Ukrainian &quot;famine&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article didn&#8217;t get much into the &#8220;mass slaughter&#8221;. He was more into the henchmen and the genesis, and just like why Lanza shot up Sandyhook &#8211; I don&#8217;t care &#8211; it louses up the point of communism The purges in China, and the Ukrainian &#8220;famine&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; responsible for the massive death toll in the USSR when Stalin was the indisputable, unopposable dictator of the USSR?  I get the impression that &quot;mass slaughter&quot; is a slippery term you use to avoid addressing the crimes of Stalin.  Teach us, O Infantryman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who <em>was</em> responsible for the massive death toll in the USSR when Stalin was the indisputable, unopposable dictator of the USSR?  I get the impression that &#8220;mass slaughter&#8221; is a slippery term you use to avoid addressing the crimes of Stalin.  Teach us, O Infantryman.</p>
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		<title>By: ADM64</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ADM64]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you on this and thought I&#039;d made the same point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on this and thought I&#8217;d made the same point.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;m very familiar. I&#039;m also very familiar with the time-lines and players. I can&#039;t believe that you&#039;re commenting on the subject without even opening the GULAG Archipelago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m very familiar. I&#8217;m also very familiar with the time-lines and players. I can&#8217;t believe that you&#8217;re commenting on the subject without even opening the GULAG Archipelago.</p>
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		<title>By: antioli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[antioli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They certainly broke a lot of eggs but the omelet did not turn out to be tasty]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They certainly broke a lot of eggs but the omelet did not turn out to be tasty</p>
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		<title>By: Roy_Cam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy_Cam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 04:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, check out the &quot;Black Book of Communism&quot;. Maybe it was 6 million, but it was millions. They don&#039;t agree with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, check out the &#8220;Black Book of Communism&#8221;. Maybe it was 6 million, but it was millions. They don&#8217;t agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 04:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To put it in a few words, Lenin was a head of the mafia with a particularly nasty ideology, which he did not even care about, when it was on his way to seizing or retaining power. NEP was nothing other than a tactical retreat to semi-free market economy in order to prevent local anti-bolshevik insurrections at Tambov, Kronshtadt, etc, from spreading and toppling Lenin&#039;s regime. I think that Felshtinsky did an excellent job describing his rise and fall:

http://www.amazon.com/Lenin-His-Comrades-Bolsheviks-1917-1924/dp/1929631952]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put it in a few words, Lenin was a head of the mafia with a particularly nasty ideology, which he did not even care about, when it was on his way to seizing or retaining power. NEP was nothing other than a tactical retreat to semi-free market economy in order to prevent local anti-bolshevik insurrections at Tambov, Kronshtadt, etc, from spreading and toppling Lenin&#8217;s regime. I think that Felshtinsky did an excellent job describing his rise and fall:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lenin-His-Comrades-Bolsheviks-1917-1924/dp/1929631952" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Lenin-His-Comrades-Bolsheviks-1917-1924/dp/1929631952</a></p>
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		<title>By: edlancey</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh so orotund

Ps I&#039;m sure Stalin was no dullard or idiot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh so orotund</p>
<p>Ps I&#8217;m sure Stalin was no dullard or idiot</p>
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		<title>By: ADM64</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It all comes down to what sort of disaster Lenin foresaw.  If he saw Stalin being a disaster for the people in the Communist Party (which is what I suspect he was worried about), it is a very different thing than foreseeing that Stalin would be a disaster for Russia.  There is no evidence that Lenin had any problem killing lots of ordinary Russians and he was on record as having little if any sympathy for what he called bourgeois socialists (i.e. the ones who were squeamish about violence), so I think my interpretation is likely the correct one. Moreover, if Lenin had real foresight, he would have recognized that communism would have been a disaster because it could only be implemented at the point of a gun.  Of course, if he had been able to foresee that, he would not have been a communist in the first place!  In my opinion, areas where Lenin appeared to show some flexibility e.g. the New Economic Policy, a somewhat less imperial outlook vis-à-vis Russia&#039;s historic territory and nationalities, and the like, were merely tactical and pragmatic concessions to the extreme conditions in which he found himself in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all comes down to what sort of disaster Lenin foresaw.  If he saw Stalin being a disaster for the people in the Communist Party (which is what I suspect he was worried about), it is a very different thing than foreseeing that Stalin would be a disaster for Russia.  There is no evidence that Lenin had any problem killing lots of ordinary Russians and he was on record as having little if any sympathy for what he called bourgeois socialists (i.e. the ones who were squeamish about violence), so I think my interpretation is likely the correct one. Moreover, if Lenin had real foresight, he would have recognized that communism would have been a disaster because it could only be implemented at the point of a gun.  Of course, if he had been able to foresee that, he would not have been a communist in the first place!  In my opinion, areas where Lenin appeared to show some flexibility e.g. the New Economic Policy, a somewhat less imperial outlook vis-à-vis Russia&#8217;s historic territory and nationalities, and the like, were merely tactical and pragmatic concessions to the extreme conditions in which he found himself in.</p>
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		<title>By: canitary</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction , It is 61 one years since Stalin died{march1953}]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction , It is 61 one years since Stalin died{march1953}</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m certainly no fan of Lenin&#039;s but this is just nonsense. The numbers don&#039;t add up. There was no way that Lenin killed 8 million people in Ukraine. For all intents and purposes, Lenin was isolated as early as in 1922, and Golodomor, Collectivization and Industrialization did not begin until late twenties - early thirties. Read Solzhenitsyn, who was definitely NOT a Lenin&#039;s shill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m certainly no fan of Lenin&#8217;s but this is just nonsense. The numbers don&#8217;t add up. There was no way that Lenin killed 8 million people in Ukraine. For all intents and purposes, Lenin was isolated as early as in 1922, and Golodomor, Collectivization and Industrialization did not begin until late twenties &#8211; early thirties. Read Solzhenitsyn, who was definitely NOT a Lenin&#8217;s shill.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy_Cam</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lenin had three major enemies:, the ex-political allies of the left, eg socialist, social democrats, etc.; the ex-members of the Empire- eg, Ukraine, etc;, the &quot;Greens&quot;- an alliance of peasants who had already taken land from the major landholders, the kulaks. 

Many know about the Red (Bolshevik) Army, the White (Imperial) Army, but few have heard about the essentially peasant army composed of peasants, and defectors from the Red and White. 

The Green Army arose out of Lenin&#039;s brutal treatment of these peasants, a policy that Stalin resumed, and did not originate.

Lenin killed just as many people as Stalin in the Ukraine. He basically gave up because he needed to. But all that was after killing about 8 million people directly or through starvation as land and food, the very clothes on children&#039;s backs, all of it confiscated.

Stalin was, simply put by Whittaker Chambers, the fulfillment of the communist system&#039;s evil, NOT a deviation.

Simply put- Stalin subjected communists to communism, completing its development.

Kruschev and the rest- they said not a thing about the millions of regular, non-communist Russians killed. Stalin&#039;s only crime was his brutal treatment of communists. 

Unbelievable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenin had three major enemies:, the ex-political allies of the left, eg socialist, social democrats, etc.; the ex-members of the Empire- eg, Ukraine, etc;, the &#8220;Greens&#8221;- an alliance of peasants who had already taken land from the major landholders, the kulaks. </p>
<p>Many know about the Red (Bolshevik) Army, the White (Imperial) Army, but few have heard about the essentially peasant army composed of peasants, and defectors from the Red and White. </p>
<p>The Green Army arose out of Lenin&#8217;s brutal treatment of these peasants, a policy that Stalin resumed, and did not originate.</p>
<p>Lenin killed just as many people as Stalin in the Ukraine. He basically gave up because he needed to. But all that was after killing about 8 million people directly or through starvation as land and food, the very clothes on children&#8217;s backs, all of it confiscated.</p>
<p>Stalin was, simply put by Whittaker Chambers, the fulfillment of the communist system&#8217;s evil, NOT a deviation.</p>
<p>Simply put- Stalin subjected communists to communism, completing its development.</p>
<p>Kruschev and the rest- they said not a thing about the millions of regular, non-communist Russians killed. Stalin&#8217;s only crime was his brutal treatment of communists. </p>
<p>Unbelievable.</p>
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