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It’s a story that one might expect to come out of Tehran or Lahore. Instead, it comes from Lyon, France. The French-language CNews reported that “a man was sentenced this Wednesday by the Lyon Criminal Court to one year in prison for burning a Quran in front of a mosque in Villeurbanne (Rhône) last June.”
This had been a long time in the offing, and now it’s happening with increasing frequency. For years, Western governments refrained from crossing the line and levying criminal charges against someone for violating Islamic blasphemy laws. Then in Britain in June, a Turkish dissident, Hamit Coskun, was fined for burning a Qur’an. And now this.
CNews explained that the sentence also included “a two-year ban on appearing in the same city,” that is, Villeurbanne, where the unnamed perpetrator carried out his heinous crime of registering his disapproval of the violence, exploitation, subjugation, hatred and more that the Qur’an sanctions. He was put on trial for “degradation committed on the grounds of race, ethnicity, nation, or religion,” but he insisted that he was not, despite appearances to the contrary, “an Islamophobe.” He said instead that he was simply, and tragically, a “victim of his illness,” as he has been receiving treatment as a paranoid schizophrenic for nine years.
It seems that the poor fellow admitted that he had burned a Qur’an, but he “attempted to defend himself by dismissing any connection between his actions and Islam.” The accused explained: “I understand that my actions were very serious. For me, it was just a book, it wasn’t against Muslims themselves.” Nevertheless, prosecutor Hannah Tellier asserted that he was “a major risk” for repeating his awesome crime, and so requested that he be locked safely away in prison, where, presumably, no Qur’ans are kept anywhere near any matches.
Burning a book, any book, is an act that many regard with distaste and associate with National Socialism. Yet this is a matter of the freedom of expression: if one group can restrict speech on the basis of a perceived “insult” or “offense” to it, it has become a protected class, above criticism. That’s the road to tyranny. And some European countries are farther down that road than most people realize.
Last January, an Iraqi immigrant in Sweden, Salwan Momika, was scheduled to appear in a Stockholm court, but he didn’t show up. This was because, as was soon discovered, he had been murdered. Momika had become notorious worldwide for daring on several occasions to set fire to the Qur’an, and had received death threats on a more or less daily basis. In fact, that was why he was on trial. He was charged with “agitation against an ethnic or national group” for burning the Qur’an, which was ridiculous on its face: Momika was Iraqi, after all, and was setting fire to the Islamic book not because he wanted to agitate against Muslims, but because he wanted to call attention to the violence and oppression that the Qur’an inspires those who believe in it to commit.
The Swedish government should have hailed Momika as a hero of the freedom of expression; instead it vilified and persecuted him. Reuters reported in Aug. 2024 that Swedish authorities were planning to try Momika and another Iraqi who had burned the Qur’an, Salwan Najem, “for setting fire to the Quran in a series of incidents last year that prompted outrage in the Muslim world and raised fears of attacks by jihadists.” It was because the Qur’an burnings “raised fears of attacks by jihadists” that Momika and Najem went on trial. Sweden surrendered to violent intimidation and discarded the freedom of speech out of cowardice and fear rather than committing itself to doing what it takes to defend its own way of life.
And now it’s France’s turn. Has anyone in France been charged with “degradation committed on the grounds of race, ethnicity, nation, or religion” for committing this act of “degradation” against the cherished artifacts of any religion other than Islam? Will such charges ever be brought in a land where jihad preachers? Come on, man!
This case is another exercise in introducing Islamic blasphemy laws by the back door, and killing the freedom of speech. If France somehow manages to survive, or revive, as a free society and a true history of our absurd age is ever written there, the legal persecution of this unnamed man who burned the Qur’an will be seen as one of the milestones of the nation’s descent into totalitarian madness.
This is easy enough protest: burn piles of Korans.
Call these protests “bonfire of the insanities” …
Do the same laws apply to the Bible, or the Torah? This is nuts!
And if he had burned a King James Bible it would be Free Speech
It would be called “Performance Art” and featured at the next Olympics. 🙂
And it tells you whom they fear.
Macron plans to recognize Palestine. That will not be reciprocated by Palestine. When the jihadis take over completely, they they will not even leave France with a Vichy puppet zone.
And to celebrate their majority conquest, they’ll burn down the Notre Dame cathedral again.
The 2nd time they’ll make sure nothing is left to rebuild.
The 1st time it was torched, I knew it was islam for three reasons . . .
¹ islam has a long established habit of burning Christian churches.
² an islamic bitch parked a car-bomb in front the day before that failed to detonate (and failed more to make news.)
³ the gov’t rushed in to assure everyone islam definitely had NOTHING to do with it (and threatened any who dared speculate.)
I did not know that — I just looked it up and yes they did try to destroy it.
Here is one you may not know; during Paris Commune in the spring of 1871 the communists built a large bonfire’s pyre in the Notre-Dame cathedral with plans to set it ablaze on the night of May 23-24, the night when they burnt down some 230 or so major building and stately homes. But the night passed and the fire was never lit.
Why? No one knows but it seems likely that the person whose job it was to do so was just one of the 10,000 to 20,000 Commanards killed or one of the 38,000 arrested by the 170,000 Versailles troops that the National Government sent into Paris to put down the communist uprising.
France has descended into totalitarian madness soon to be coupled with Islamic sharia. France as always has surrendered.
Let’s call balls and strikes though. Recently many Trump supporters agreed with Trump’s proposal for a year imprisonment for burning the American flag.
So just keep in mind you strong Trump supporters. Trump isn’t exactly in support of freedom of expression himself.
Hipocrisy?
Not at all.
Go burn a chickenshit pride or BLM flag, and you’ll get arrested, charged, and jailed.
Guess, I escaped justice because one is secluded on camping trips. (Qurans make great kindling for camp fires.)
Burning the American flag is an act of sedition against USA – burning a hemorrhoid Qur’an is an act of declaring war on the devil’s machinations to which izzylym is
What incredible nonsense that reinforces our education system’s failure to teach logic and civics. You can tell a person’s commitment to freedom of speech by their willingness to tolerate viewpoints with which they disagree. We don’t need a 1st Amendment to protect speech we agree with. Which negative rights—readers clueless about the phrase “negative rights” scratch their clueless heads–are violated by someone burning ANY flag?
It is clear Mike has enough command of logic to make a valid point. Not so those who don’t understand the Supreme Court’s ruling on the issue. I proudly fly a Blue Lives Matter flag on my porch and wear a shirt that states “breathe easy. Don’t Break the Law.” Should we make these freedom of expressions illegal as well because they piss off many on the political left?
Burning flags … like burning effigies
is a threat of violence.
When people who hate you can incite violence against you by burning your symbol
… and you have no permission to do the same to their symbols.
That’s not free speech.
I have no right in the USA to express any opposition to anti-White bigots, anti-Christian bigots, anti-normal bigots and so on,
… but they can vandalize my property, attack me physically, and discriminate against me in employment, service, and law.
That’s a result of decades of the Big Lie that it’s okay to burn my flag, and I have no right to burn your flag.
As for your ignorance. I assume you’re idiot educated by a left-wing communist private school
– if you’re flying a Burn Loot Murder flag.
And you’re insulated from the street mobs if you feel safe enough to actually wear a ‘breath easy’ t-shirt.
It’s clear you don’t understand the 1st Amendment. It’s there to protect speech we don’t agree with. But then you are fascist Muslim.
Elephantiasis 😃
Looks more like spelling challenged to me. Not to mention the silliness of the post.
“Your refutation of his assertion is convincing” said no one ever. What is silly about the post? We’ll wait.
Well done being the spelling police.
Years ago it was illegal to burn an American flag. That law should have been kept on the books.
Not hypocrisy if the penalty applies across the board. If burning a Quran is criminal, so is burning Bible or other quasi sacred symbols
The real mischief is equating setting fire to someone with “speech” Thus right is a distortion of the first Amendment done by the Supreme Court in one of its most liberal eras. No Founding Father would have agreed with that. They would have considered that notion to be totally insane!
Get rid of Macron and his neonazi gang.
Vote Eric Zemmour
France, England, Germany, etc. should just get it over with and declare themselves as the Islamic Union of Eurostan.
They can put a crescent in the middle of their circle of stars flag and outlaw eating in public during Ramadamn.
What we do here is we take a few of those terror guides (korans) that CAIR would give away to the range, and hang them on a target frame. Israeli made IMI 9mm diamond cut HP does a real nice job of reducing them to paper dust, which is then used to soak up dog urine when training a puppy. We’re allowed to do that for several reasons.
1.) Because we like to
2.) The koran is garbage.
Thanks,Noah! You’ve hit on a brilliant plan.
Of course this report does not mention the fact that the perpetrator entered the mosque and stole their quran and then burned it outside. Which is a crime no matter where it is. Given that it’s a mosque, it’s likely that copy isn’t your run of the mill copy you can buy at Amazon.
Let’s assume that report is accurate. Islamists lie continually & hoaxes abound, hence when some bitch screams “a MAGA scumbag tore off my hijab!”, she’s lying – again.
It’s not as if he burned the mosque, as “the-religion-of-peace” burned Notre Dame some years ago.
In Portland, one can try to burn people alive in the O’Hatfield Courthouse and have a judge dismiss the case “time served”.
So maybe giving the Frenchman a $100 fine should suffice.
Or how about give the Frenchman a C-note.
If that is true and I admit I am too lazy to find out I would agree with you completely.
The report also doesn’t mention him being convicted of burglary or theft, which would be the case if what you’re claiming is true. Your story doesn’t add up.
But they didn’t charge him with trespass, or with breaking and entering. (Presumably the mosque was not locked.) Nor did they charge him with petty theft. They charged him with an offense under Islamic law.
I would never waste a good Koran by burning it. I keep one in my outhouse, and I use one page before exiting.
Frankly, that is to hemorrhoidology
They’re also great for kindling on camping trips.
The same was going to happen here in the good ‘ol USA if President Trump wasn’t reelected for the 2nd time.
And it still could if we are not careful who gets elected!
How about this, organize Qur’an burning parties. Put it on TikTok or Rumble. Make it a festival like Burning Man.
T-shirts and hoodies with images of piles of Qur’an up in flames.
I’ll order 100 Qur’an from Amazon, someone else orders 100 and so on.
We pass out Qur’an to those who don’t bring their own so they can toss these occult satanic book in the flames!
No one commented on the poor chap being incarcerated already being treated for psychological disorders the word insane was used in the article. But his defense and his actions seems like a perfectly sane and brave act in the face of the tyranny of oppression against all things not izzylum!
Let’s open immigration to the citizens of England, France and Germany who want to leave their countries. They speak English, of a western culture, and will assimilate. Leave those countries to the s*t holes they will become, just like the countries the immigrants fled from.
If you intend on being a tourist better go soon.
Who to blame for this mess? Angela Merkel.
Larry Elder did an extended interview with a German woman who told her American husband that if she stayed in Germany any longer, it wasn’t IF she ever got raped; it was WHEN.
(Her case was demonstrated in full, on New Year’s Eve in Cologne, when islamic trash raped over 1,200 women – a low ball number.)
Thanks to Ted Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act, most of them would find coming here, unless they claimed asylum.
That said, since the those counties are morphing into islamist thug shitholes, evil white people seeking escape here, now have a case.
(Merkle has her palisade far from view of any muslims, so she’s safe from any of her immigration policy results.)
But you can burn a Bible, or any other Holy Book of any of the other major religions, and it’s in the name of diversity and education for the people.
The well fed French haven’t the spine enough to make up a good earth worm. Before long, Paris will be crying for help from the U.S. to save them from the hoards of superstitious pagans they allowed to infest their country.
What a tragedy, this man in Lyon who is really mentally ill has a sentence in prison for burning a Quran, while the Muslim murderer of an elderly Jewish woman in Paris Sarah Halimi has be sent to a psychiatric unite, because he was supposedly not responsible as a cannabis user. Since when smokers of pot murder Jews? It’s also interesting to see that the psychiatrist who discharged Traoré, the murderer of Halimi was Paul Bensussan, a psychiatrist already involved in the Outreau affair, cocncerning a network of pedocriminality, where he cast doubt in the testimony of the children, the victims.
Shouldn’t you refer to France in the past tense as in “the country formerly known as France”? The same applies to the former UK. Both countries have been conquered by the Muslims without a shot being fired.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36892785#:~:text=Image%20source%2C%20AFP,tried%20to%20enter%20Syria%20twice.
Never forget the 85 year old French Catholic Priest who’s throat was cut by 2 jihadis that claimed allegiance to the Islamic State
Under this statute, France should imprison every Muslim.
In the U.S., you can burn a Bible, our flag, and property IF you are a radical. Conservatives will not do those things but conservatives are the bad guys.
France surges in the European Islamopandering derby.
Clearly, the globalist West is in the process of going mad because it thought it could be generous to the mohammedan asians and could use them as a counterweight to balance off Christianity and the followers of Jesus. This experiment with Islam will result in growing cultural madness as it is totally incompatible with the West and when it becomes out of control, it has no means of stopping it…like an out of control nuclear reactor.
This in a nutshell: SUICIDE OF THE WEST. The USA is not far down on the list.
Now we know why Macron wants to recognise Palestinian state. He is sh*t scared of offending them.
While he remains silent about the Islamists who murder Christians and Jews and Hindus everywhere else.
He should have instead advocated its use as toilet paper (its highest and best use), and followed his own advice.