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The gun control debate operates in this strange nebulous zone in which there’s simply no way to commit mass murder except through firearms.
Local media is taking some sort of strange victory lap after the Multnomah Athletic Club bombing.
Oregon’s extreme risk protection order law, also known as the “red flag” gun law, is one of the least-used protective orders in the state, according to a 2023 state report.
But it may have been a key safeguard in the case of the man suspected of driving a car packed with explosives into the Multnomah Athletic Club early Saturday — and a reason no one other than the suspect died in his alleged attack.
He set off a car bomb that did massive amounts of damage. It’s lucky no one was killed, but it’s certainly not for lack of potential deadliness.
Investigators believe that the former employee rented a black Nissan Rogue on Friday, which he used to drive into the building, careening around the first floor before setting off the explosive devices, believed to be a mix of propane tanks and pipe bombs, according to a law enforcement source.
Some of the devices detonated and some did not, Sgt. Jim DeFrain, who heads the Metro Explosive Disposal Unit for the police bureau, said at a Saturday afternoon press conference.
The ground floor of the building was “completely destroyed” and suffered “millions of dollars in damages,” said one of the law enforcement sources, who requested anonymity because the investigation is still ongoing.
The main thing the red flag order did was take away Whitman’s guns after he tried to commit suicide. That didn’t stop him from killing himself and nearly killing a bunch of other people anyway.
Gun control didn’t stop the attack. Neither did red flag laws. They might have made it worse.

Of course, we all know that red flag laws, like gun buybacks or any other gun control legislation, is made to reduce the number of law abiding, peaceful citizens with guns and increase gun use against these citizens by the politically violent and criminal element, as well as by the government.
No shooting is going to have more than 100 dead.. Stephen Craig Paddock had the best chance with his multiple guns, bunp stocks and high vantage point in a hotel. He was not able to do it.
Something always goes “wrong”, You run into a kind of “Hayflick ” limit. Statistically, it may not be possible.
Also, I would like to point out that people ostentatiously wringing their wrists forget the 1927 Bath School Disaster. That disgruntled person killed 44 and there were no machinegins or bump stocks used.
The best way to stop shooting is to go upstream. Intervention. Personally, I would count “edges” (a techinical term). Weighted edges.
Other than the really big ones, most of the mass shooting tend to be in the minority community, becuase the Democrat party likes to keep its voting bloc weak and needy. the are many things that need to be done, but one of them is restricitng immigration so that wages go up, the supply of personnel shrinks and businesses pay higher wages and recruit the underclass out of necessity..
My fear is not of these sporadic shootings, but of jihad.
When people TELL you they are mentally ill – BELIEVE THEM! Sometimes it’s necessary to to remove a person from society for THEIR protection as well as everyone else’s!
Was he mentally ill or just mad from job loss or both?
A person, who has had a job for awhile is probably salvageable and does not need to be locked up forever.,
Landscape is going to look quite different with electronics.