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Charlie Kirk had been so much the heart and soul of the organization that he built that his assassination left a great void to fill.
It also created an opportunity for certain individuals to try and hijack the organization. Just when Kirk’s assassination was about to unleash a reckoning with the Left, they sabotaged, undermined and attacked Turning Point USA. Their goal was to undermine the leadership that Charlie had put into place and put themselves and their associates in control.
Turning Point USA initially ignored them. They saw that as a sign of weakness. Now that Turning Point USA is beginning to answer them, they’re gloating. Their endgame, in classic Alinsky fashion, is to force TPUSA to engage them and then to cut a deal with them.
These narcissists, grifters and sociopaths not only robbed us of an opportunity to deal a knockout blow to the violent leftists taking over college campuses, but they’re doing their best to wreck the most potent conservative campus organization, and also a powerful political outreach tool for MAGA and Republicans. Their message is ‘cut a deal with us or we’ll destroy everything’.
Some complain that not enough are condemning them. Condemning them is fine, but let’s face reality, what they’re doing works. One of them in particular has made herself into the ultimate ‘main character’ and gloats every time her name is mentioned. They view condemnations as a form of validation. Being condemned means that they must be on to something. Or why is everyone so upset when they keep suggesting that Erika Kirk killed her husband.
The problem isn’t that they’re bad people. Lots of bad people out there. The problem is that what they’re doing works. Tell enough lies, throw out enough smears, and you’ll get a 3% audience of wine aunts and basement weirdos that will go with it.
This is why we can’t have a movement defined by social media that’s doomed to be defined by the worst people who understand how to hijack the moment and extract maximum power and cash from it for themselves. Charlie deserves better. We deserve better.
Right now they’re on track to accomplish their goal of their plot, hijacking TPUSA and forcing themselves and their allies into positions of power in exchange for making their ‘questions’ go away. If that happens, they’ll bleed it dry and take it down with them.
The answer to beating them isn’t to ‘condemn’ them. It’s to move past them by doing the work that needs to be done. And shutting out the liars, the frauds and the sociopaths. Reposting every one of their unhinged video clips only amplifies them. It gives them more power and influence. It makes them the center of an attention economy. You don’t beat them by denouncing them.
You beat them by moving forward.
Wow I’m kind of out of that loop. I have my own ideas, but I don’t want to speculate.. I understand this is a sensitive area. I wish you gave more hints..
I’m sad to see this incredible movement finally having some success and to see it in jeopardy is such a sad. Sad day.
Candace Owens, a great example of narcissistic personality disorder. Her followers display classic signs of flying monkey syndrome – no matter how unhinged her assertions, dreams, and meanderings, they believe and defend her.
Well retard many of her unhinged assertion are beign proven true, like the French hit. I find it amusing how many of you have no interest in the truth and couldn’t see it if it bit you on the nose.
Whoever these certain people are, they’re failing badly. I don’t even know who they are and TPUSA is more popular than ever. “The Charlie Kirk Show” is still aired on both “Real America’s Voice” and “The Salem News Channel.” It’s hosted….If I remember correctly….by his former best friend and former number 2 in the organization. I forget his name but there are always a couple other of Kirk’s friends and admirers on the show, too. No way will number 2 let some scumbags sleaze their way into the TPUSA leadership.
The week after Kirk was murdered/assassinated, TPUSA got hundreds of requests from high schools to join. Who knows how many high schools and colleges have petitioned for membership since then?
* I don’t know how this text I wrote got up here. I’d written it at the bottom of the thread but hadn’t posted it yet but when I tried to respond to your comment if disappeared from there and appeared here.*
Oh, well. There have been some derpity doo comments attributed to Candace Owens lately. I don’t know what’s up with her. She used to seem normal. Maybe her pregnancy gave her a hormonal inbalance.
And Greenfield is right. TPUSA just needs to ignore the wannabe Saul Alinsky scumbags.
This is part of the ongoing campaign of assault and assassination of key figures in the MAGA/MAHA freedom movement. These people are being controlled, maneuvered or nudged into fomenting more attempts by other lunatics who are also being controlled, maneuvered and nudged into action by the same people who orchestrate BLM, anitfa, Trump attempt #1 and #2, the Tesla firebombing campaign, the swattings and assaults, and Charlie. It’s compartmentalized and the people carrying out their role don’t need to know they are even playing a part. It continues because there is absolutely zero reason for them to stop, they apparently have complete immunity, and as you said it is working. The campaign of terror won’t stop until the funders and organizers got to prison.
Taliban Tucker is NOT right. So why does conservative TPUSA sponsor, platform, promote his leftist, Jew/Israel/US demonization? He will turn TPUSA into TP if they continue the association.
Horrifying that Don Jr & JD Vance also seem quite captured by Qatar influence. I suspect another goal may be orchestrating repeat of “Charlottesville” event under guise of ‘uniting the right’ to besmirch MAGA (Biden said that event is why he ran & leftists able to grift off that lie).
It is not Jews who want to replace US, it’s Islam.
Thank you!
It’s utterly mystifying why conservatives are not shining a light on this. TPUSA has been platforming Tucker and as a top tier speaker, no less, for a very long time. Surely they know exactly what he’s saying. (Who can forget him at Charlie’s memorial in so many words accusing Jews of killing Christ and in the next breath accusing them of killing Charlie).
I have to assume TPUSA if fine with Tucker’s message. Any why wouldn’t they be? I seem to recall a few top TPUSA folks sitting around months ago pondering WWII and tinkering with revisionist framing of it. It was deeply distrubing as was TPUSA’s long-standing asssociation with Owens and Carlson, failing to cut them loose once they exposed who they were.
Why are we going to bat for TPUSA at this point? It seems Charlie was a bit of an anomoly strange as that seems since it was his org. But I can’t bother to try to figure it out. All one can do is take what they doing at face value and their close assocation with Tucker at a bare minimum is deeply disturbing. I think Dave Rubin is the only major voice on the right who I’ve heard nibble around the edges of concern about where the org is headed. It’s long past time more should do the same.
More broadly speaking, this rapidly rising tide of abject stupidity on the right and and among major voices shows no end in abating and does not bode well for our future.
I think a lot of people are not listening that closely. I am one. Tucker used to be great and people still associate him with the past. I haven’t listened enough to hear him say something objectionable.
Tucker has said plenty that is antisemitic and objectionable, usually using his specially selected antisemitic guests as proxies, but then, at Charlie’s Memorial he went ahead with full old Jews-the Christian-killers libels. And tying it to Charlie’s murder. He had also gone on a full frontal attack against Evangelical Christian for their Israel support, before realizing that he had went too far, even for him.
The man, who fell insulted for being invited. to visit Israel not only went to Qatar, but loved the Islamist paradise so much that he bought the house there.
Yeah, he loves America first and foremost for sure …and is a devout Christian.
Tucker is a Communist Party member. Nobody can convince me otherwise. He’s Owen Lattimore 2.0.
Because Christian’s aren’t the friends of Jews or Israel that Jews and Israel fantasized about?
I think ignoring all the holes in this story just pisses people off more. Because now the same people that said the fbi is full of shit are telling us to believe this half assed story…
You get the Shakespeare Award.
It’s not a story. It’s what happened.
You mean, like egyptian planes and candice nobody’s dreams? Everyone needs to investigate those every minute of every day…. nah.
Shows why the left and Muslim favorite tactic of assassination of opposition figures is so effective.
Especially since taking over a party is easier than making a third party
For sure but they’ll fail with Kirk and his number 2 who hosts “The Charlie Kirk Show” now and heads TPUSA.
TPUSA gets caught in multiple lies and its Candice’s fault lol. And if you believe the steel neck theory or the government’s version you are plain stupid. My guess is that most of you are covid mask wearing stupid.
Stupid is someone who doesn’t read a thing here (and probably anywhere), but is compelled to spew its opinion in everyone’s face.
Tim Pool had summed up Owens quite well the other day, nothing to add or subtract.