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The first rule of negotiating with Islamic terrorists is don’t. The second rule is if you do it, do it with heavy artillery.
Islamic terrorists don’t negotiate. They make demands in hopes of securing concessions without actually giving up anything. Only the most dedicated historian could find an example of a negotiation process during which the Islamic terrorists made an actual concession, followed through on it and did not later take it back or turn right around and go back to terrorism.
The most prominent counterexamples are the three decades of negotiations between Israel and Islamic terrorist groups which initially won a round of Nobel Prizes and then degenerated into an endless war during which the terrorists took back every concession they ever made, did not follow through on any of them and used Israeli concessions to become a much worse threat.
Negotiating with the Taliban, Hezbollah, and Iran all had the same end result.
Offering to negotiate with Islamic terrorists is a statement of weakness. Jihadists only offer to negotiate out of fear, weakness or to entrap us and they assume we do the same thing. Nothing would ever convince them that we genuinely want to live in peace with them or that we prefer alternatives to violence. So any time we offer to negotiate, they see is as weakness or a trick.
If our diplomats ever understood this cultural reality, they would stop being baffled when the negotiations fall apart. And after generations of the same thing, they refuse to learn.
Terrorists start negotiations with maximalist demands to probe for weakness and then switch between false promises and threats. If any of our diplomats had bought a rug at a good price in the Middle East or a used car at a good price in Chicago, they would respond by walking out. Instead, they try to find a way to meet their demands. And then the terrorists have them.
The terrorists become the ones to walk out. They throw Bobby Fischer style tantrums over every minor detail. They invent a constant stream of new grievances to be outraged by. What are typical tactics for small children, sociopaths and Egyptian merchants utterly baffle our best and brightest who can’t figure out how to cope with opponents who don’t play by UN rules.
Now the terrorists start extracting concessions in exchange for taking part in the negotiations. The process becomes a substitute for the outcome. Peace, an end to violence and the survival of the hostages hinge not on the defeat of the terrorists, but our ability to win them over.
Instead of negotiating the terms of a peace agreement, the negotiations themselves become the subject of negotiations and civilized nations begin bribing the terrorists to stay and talk. Iran got billions in sanctions relief and the PLO got to spring terrorists from prison. The Biden administration pushed Israel to give Hamas a ceasefire as a prelude to negotiating the release of hostages. The Israeli government wisely refused to fall for the same trick yet again.
And then the negotiations blew up anyway because the terrorists had killed their ‘hostage’.
Islamic terrorists, from Iran to the PLO, from Hamas to Qatar, take the negotiating process itself hostage and warn that they will blow it up unless their demands are met. Hopeful peace negotiators who allow the terrorists to hold the process hostage become their useful idiots. From the Oslo accords to the Iran deal to the Hamas hostage negotiations, it ends the same way.
The only way to negotiate with terrorists is through strength. Not just a position of physical strength, because terrorists know how to turn a strength into a weakness, but through strength in negotiations. In Islam, posture is reality and reality is malleable. If you are going to negotiate with terrorists, it’s more important to have a strong posture than the world’s strongest military.
A mighty war machine is an asset, but posture is a willingness to actually use it. That’s why the Carter, Clinton and Biden administrations became international laughingstocks. It’s why the Bush administration, after initially terrifying the Muslim world, came to be seen as a foolish foe.
Western liberals believe that peace will be achieved when all the wars end, but peace in the Muslim world is not a permanent state but a temporary truce in an endless war. Liberals tell us that the problem is a lack of understanding, but the lack of understanding is coming from them.
Liberals are obsessed with understanding the other side, but rather than understanding it, they adopt its grievances as their own, label them as anti-colonialism or some other leftist buzzword, and then take on the job of scourging their own country over the enemy’s grievances. After generations of this indoctrination, some at academic institutions funded by Muslim monarchs, most of our diplomats have internalized enemy propaganda as factual history and moral reality.
This makes the average State Department girl or Foreign Service lad as able to negotiate with Islamic terrorists as Vidkun Quisling was at negotiating Norway’s independence with the Nazis.
Obama told the nuke deal negotiators that Iran had good reason to fear us because of our support for the Shah and that it was their job to relieve the fears of the ayatollahs. Such kindly understanding permeates our diplomats who spend a lot of time ‘understanding’ the enemy’s position through the rants of western radicals like Noam Chomsky and John Mearsheimer.
The State Department doesn’t understand our national security. It doesn’t understand the fears of non-Muslims and Muslim governments worried about Islamic terrorists. But it’s entirely up to date on whatever orientalist nonsense Marxists use to prop up the third world terrorists they hope will bring western civilization crashing down after the Bolsheviks proved unfit for the job.
But booting every Georgetown grad who has read Chomsky doesn’t fix the problems of applying a process meant for civilized countries trying to reach an amicable solution to terrorists who see negotiations as a means of gaining an advantage before their next attack. The international community, flawed as it is, maintains a level of trust that makes agreements possible.
There is no trust to be had within the Islamic ummah where all agreements are temporary, everything is subject to revision based on force and trickery, and all oaths are fatally false. Muslim factions cannot trust each other beyond the mutual interests of the moment. Even when bound by kinship and a common religion, they turn on each other in the blink of an eye.
We cannot even count on that much. Without family ties and religious bonds, there is no moral or personal obligation we can expect them to have toward us. Not just their inclinations, but honor and religion demand that they lie to us, cheat us and harm us whenever they can.
That’s why the first rule of negotiating with Islamic terrorists is don’t. It achieves nothing, The only point of such negotiations is to state firmly and clearly what our intentions are. That is why they are also best conducted with heavy artillery. Terrorists will not end their attacks in response to concessions or negotiations. They will temporarily end them in response to successful attacks or permanently in response to their total destruction. That is how you negotiate with terrorists.
The gentle art of negotiating with terrorists demands that we know who they are and who we are. As Sun Tzu observed, “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” We have been losing the war on terror because we do not know the enemy.
But worse still, we have forgotten who we are. And unless we remember, we will lose.
Yeah, Sir Richard Burton wrote about that describing his travels in their areas during the 1800s. That was a revelation to me.
And they still hide their faces from the World afraid their Friends and Families will banish them to the Gobi Desert
Where is Tacitus when you need him?
Also, Mr. Chomsky has shown us how far you can go in life by teaching kids how to diagram a sentence.
“The only way to negotiate with terrorists is through strength.”
I phrase it differently. After 911, many people in the West asked, “why do they hate us?” It is a fool’s errand to try to get people with a fundamentally different worldview not to hate us, much less to like us. In particular, highly negative opinions of infidels have been baked into the ummah for more than 1,000 years.
Instead, we should aim for them to respect us: respect our strength and our willingness to use that strength. In recent times, it is that last part, willingness to use that strength, that has been a problem. Our enemies think our lifestyle has made us soft: that we do not have the stomach to fight until victory or to walk away from an agreement that they are not respecting.
Part of the problem is that Mohammed was innately treacherous and manipulative – for example, his breach of the Treaty of Huddaybiyyah – and he is the perfect man in Islam, the one they aspire to emulate. Add to that a deity who is called “the great Deceiver”, and you have a complete reversal of Western ethics.
One might wonder: WHO WOULD MR. GREENFIELD TRUST?
The Pentagon? Washington DC? Beijing? London? Paris? Berlin?
Or Tel Aviv? Teheran? Kuwait? Saudia? Q’atar? UAE?
Or our Allies or Ex-Allies: Al Quaeda? ISIS? Pol Pot? Marcos? All the South American Dictators?
He claims: “Obama told the nuke deal negotiators that Iran had good reason to fear us because of our support for the Shah and that it was their job to relieve the fears” ….
NOT just the ayatollahs!
CIA and British MI6 had destroyed Iran’s DEMOCRACY and given it a “Crowned Dictator” – with a BRUTAL CIA-trained political police: SAVAK.
THE PEOPLE OF IRAN HAS REASON TO BE AFRAID –
AFRAID OF WASHINGTON. – AND ITS MILITARY BRIDGEHEAD ISRAEL!
AND ITS USEFUL DICTATOR IN IRAQ WHO PROXIED FOR DC AND KILLED 250,000 Iranians!
And later, the USS VINCENNES PLANFULLY SHOT DOWN AN AIRBUS WITH 290 PILGRIMS!
Would Mr. Greenfield trust someone with that past?
And how are others in that field – especially some with atom bombs: Israel and Pakistan:
US FORCES ON BOTH SIDES OF IRAN!
And think of TRUSTWORTHINESS IN TREATIES:
I REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS A GREAT INTERNATIONALLY GUARANTEED ‘OSLO TREATY’
– AND THE NEXT DAY AN ISRAELI HELICOPTER SHOT AND KILLED A MAN IN A GAZA:
SOMEONE ON OUR SIDE THOUGHT THAT THE TREATY WAS WORTHLESS!
How was that? “YOU WANT PEACE – PREPARE FOR WAR!”
Now think again: WHO HAS MOST REASON FOR THAT?
Victory and total capitulation and surrender by Islamic terror entities is the only way to peace. Ceasefire is for the self-deluded.
Israel will only be delaying the inevitable again. This is an implacable enemy supported by the subterfuge of the international community of Jew haters.
The UN forces are alright there facilitating Hezb’allah.
How many times must we replay the same death trap?
Victory changes everything. Israel needs to conquer Lebanon and dictate the terms. That’s the only ceasefire that works. Crushing your enemy completely.
Front Page Magazine is a fount of understanding. On November 15 there appeared an unsigned paper titled “Child Marriage in Islam: An Overview. In it, I learned that Muslim men can “thigh’ children – even babies with the permission of Shariah law.. That is, they can derive sexual pleasure from children as long as it does not include coitus. Prior to this article, I already knew that mothers from North Africa – no particular religion – would masturbate their babies to calm their crying. This sexualizing of children is likely the single most powerful cause of poor relations between adult men and women. It is my contention that this distortion of early life gives us the hardline distinction between Western societies and Islam. There is sufficent research to conclude that early sexual abuse produces problemmatic consequences for children. Just one possible direction of future research could be the attitudes of the mothers when their babies are being used as sexual objects by their husbands.
Hudna: Temporary peace with non-muslims which is only permissible if it is advantageous to the muslims and should not last more than 10 years. It is made if the muslims are weak. Peace making is only justifiable as part of a longterm war effort. If there becomes a muslim advantage the ‘treaty’ is broken, the war continues and they are considered deserters if they don’t do so.
The koran 9.4 says keep to the terms agreed UNLESS the enemy has violated the treaty. Hadith note mohammad‘s instructions indicating different kinds of promise, some broken more casually. [muslims free to lie]
Supposedly mohammad made the first hudna with the Meccans 628 for 10 years but it was broken in 2 years and mohammad came with 10,000 men and took mecca.
Treaty of Huddaybiyyah –Mohammad’s deceit—the man all muslim men must copy. Allah- “the great Deceiver”, No ‘treaty,’ no trust, no morality …just lies and tricks.
According to Sheik Abdul Rahman, Abdul Khaliq peace treaties with the jews were made to be broken/invalid; not binding and cannot be given effect except under compulsion and necessity. And he goes on re detesting and fighting jews. (‘Verdict on the treaty s of compromise and peace with the jews’ viewed 18th Sept 2001 Sookdheo- book- Global jihad p 190, etc) Hudna was used by Hamas June 2003 when expressing willingness for a ceasefire with Israel.
Abd al-Khaliq was born in Monufia, Egypt, on 5 November 1939. He was educated at Islamic University of Madinah. He moved to Kuwait in 1965, teacher in Kuwaiti schools between 1965 and 1990. Then, he became an Islamic scholar at Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage in Kuwait.
Israel is a weak nation with a suicidal streak and a tendency to self-destruction.
It all comes from the leftoxenomorph component of the Israeli population.
And even when a rightist government holds the reins of power, it has to walk eggshells, pussyfooting around to avoid the harshest of attacks by the leftoxenomorph faction.
For Israel, its leftoxenomorph faction is like hamaSS or hez-noballsah or any other pisslim orcs:
– they don’t love Israel
– they think Israel is basically “wrong” (non-leftoxenomorph)
– they think the pisslim orcs terrorists “have a point”
– are in favor of a “2 state ʹsolutionʹ” that can only mean the death of Israel
– think suicidaly that “something can be worked out” with pisslim orcs terrorists.
Israel’s weakness comes from their leftoxenomorphs.
Israel’s suicidal streak comes from their leftoxenomorph.
Israel’s tendency to self-destruction comes from their leftoxenomorphs.
Nothing that makes Israel stronger receives the favor of leftoxenomorphs that believe that being strong makes Israel less susceptible to surrender to pisslim terrorists.
October 7th happened because Israeli leftoxenomorphs:
– willingly and wantonly ignored the many early signs and warnings of what was clearly coming
– left the Gaza frontier defenseless
– when the Oct 7th pogrom started they refused to accept what was happening
– when the pogrom was so blatant that it could not be ignored they played possum and left several hours go by without a response so the pisslims terrorists had a field day while the IDF and the intel apparatus did nothing and very complacently stood down and waited and waited and waited while Israelis were raped, tortured, burned alive, murdered and abducted
– the reason for the leftoxenomorphs’ inaction was to “teach Israel a lesson and make the non-leftoxenomorph Israelis more susceptible to listen to the leftoxenomorphs’ opinions on matters regarding dealing with pisslims”, especially fakestinians.
It has been published before Oct 7th that Israeli leftoxenomorphs were saying “if there is trouble, don’t call us” out of spite for Israelis voting for Likud and Netanyahu.
Well . . . they kept their word.