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Gag orders, constitutionally dubious, are meant to protect the integrity of a judicial proceeding.
However, even with the trial over, the gag orders imposed on former President Trump are not going away.
DA Bragg’s office (which had just freed the antisemitic Columbia Hamas rioters) demanded a continuation of the gag order which prohibits him from commenting on the individuals involved in the trial.
Since Trump is also running for president and Biden is spending $50 million to attack him over the various Democrat trials imposed on him, this effectively bans a presidential candidate from debating a campaign issue.
The New York Court of Appeals claimed that “no substantial constitutional question is directly involved” in gagging a presidential candidate when in reality several are involved.
But weasel words like “substantial” and “directly” give away the game.
Imposing a gag order post-trial on a potentially indefinite basis has no legal validity. There is no longer a judicial proceeding to protect. The basis for Bragg’s demands is the DA’s claim that he’s still getting death threats and that Trump may seek revenge. There will be plenty of people who hate Bragg regardless of what Trump says and the rationale that the rhetoric poses a personal risk rather than a risk to a case allows for a permanent gag order.
It also shifts away from protecting judicial proceedings before and during to protecting them afterward, and from restricting speech by a participant in a legal proceeding to restricting speech that political agitators believe threatens them.
How long until the same doctrine is being used to muzzle not just Trump but everyone?
Scum like Big Fat Brother Bragg would muzzle every conservative if he could. He would probably muzzle all whites, too.
I’d like to punch that fat cantaloupe nose of his right off his face. That’s probably illegal in NYC but it may be legal here in San Jose California.
you’re not alone bro – I want them lined up starting with that sob shifty shift for brains, self loathing Jew Shoomer, and line of treasonous perps that are free and lawless and whores for the demonic deep state – and for you ladies, we will hand you pink baseball bats to smash them – We have the Boston Tea Party in history and we will have the Smash Face Movement that sent a message and had them all scurry for their rat holes – this is our last stand, the USA is the Alamo and we cannot lose it!
President Trump is a Man of God – Excalibur!
It’s funny that you mention Excalibur. John Boorman made a movie entitled “Excalibur.” If you haven’t seen it, I strongly recommend it. It’s really good although a bit weird.
Nicol Williamson did a great job as Merlin, and Helen Mirren was smoking as Morgana. There were a lot of A-list actors who I first saw in that movie. Liam Neeson, Gabriel Byrne, Patrick Stewart, and a lot of other familiar faces. The armor and weapons were really cool too.
Well, we have all the ammo…so…
That’s crap is dead! I will say it again . And this country is dead if this continues.
Our only hope is ironically a Foreigner, Netanyahu. The extreme left hate Biden for apparently not stopping Netanyahu from going after the Hamas killers. Talk about Irony! Oh joy!!!
He is a major thorn in that scum bag Biden’s back. Maybe there is a god!
Go Netanyahu! Go good people of Israel.
our only hope and the world’s only hope is to get President Trump back into the White House – the SOB globalists who control Obama and Biden are holding back arms needed for Israel to defeat it’s enemies which are increasing in numbers!
Trump should not participate in the debate. Tell Biden and his minions to pack sand
Lawfare by the swamp and the demonkratzi party apparatchiks. Plain and simple corruption.
As is the case with the trial itself, Bragg must know that the gag order is illegal and, like Trump’s conviction, will eventually be reversed. But he will have tarnished Trump and kept him from talking about the process that tarnished him prior to the election. That’s his goal. That this is being allowed to occur by our state and federal Judicial systems is an additional crime.
I thumbs down because this is the only trial of the 3 that President Trump endured and it has not tarnished him. It has made President Trump more popular and people are seeing the light. Other than that I give thumbs up to all your other points!
No problem. I think.it has, or it will, hurt him with “independents.”. They’re usually squishes who can’t figure out what is going on and will fall to media narratives. And they’ll hear ” convicted felon” about a million times between now and the election to be sure.
Agreed, Trump is not tarnished one bit, in fact this has elevated him. It has tarnished those fascists perverts who are after him.
Weasel Words
My girlfriend’s sister once nicknamed me “Weasel” because she said I could weasel my way out of her clever arguments.
Actually it was just my math/logic training, so I could see the logical flaws in her arguments.
It actually got me in a lot of trouble with my Dad’s second wife, who got infuriated when I pointed out the flaws in her clever arguments. She kept me away from Dad for 30+ years. Fortunately after she died Dad’s 3rd wife, who was religious, made it possible for me to get back in Dad’s good graces.
I’m glad you got back to your dad! You sure don’t seem like a weasel to me. Some chicks are just bitches.
I finally met a good one last Sunday instead of the tarts I’ve been running around with. I’m sure you’re girlfriend is nice.
And I have noticed that dumb or ignorant people are averse to logic.
So let me understand this, the gag order is still en effect, yet Bragg claims he’s still getting threats, so the gag order must remain. Yeah, BS. Has Bragg identified any of these alleged threats? Has he asked the FBI if they come from out of state? Or are these alleged threats being done by Democrat groups, maybe some paid for by judge Merchan’s daughter?
Bragg was informed of the threats through reliable anonymous sources.
Yeah, his gay prostitute hustler.
Who was informed by his FBI handler.
At this rate, Trump will be gagged when President.
The only ones who need Gag orders is Hudge Merchan Bragg and Smith and all those involved in this whole conspiracy against Trump and the American People the Globalists/UN/CFR its Coup against America and the American People
Progressive liberalism is a very dangerous mental illness. Anyone who has read history knows that liberalism is responsible for the murders of over 200 MILLION PEOPLE in the past 120 years. Only because they wouldn’t submit to liberal ideology or because they’d offended the easily offended.
It’s a convenience, same as his “banning” from Twitter. It’s all political theater to keep people from knowing our federal gov’t is 100% WEF owned and operated.
No matter how anyone votes this fall, we get a 100% WEF stooge.
We will NEVER vote our way out of this. Wait and see.
I am reminded of the old saying: “You can vote your way into tyranny. But you will have to fight your way out of it.”
So….. what do you -or anyone -suggest? Accept another steal and keep posting complaining comments or post complaints on social media.? Why bother? If we accept it then we did it to ourselves. No, no one is referring to useless mass chaos or random violence like a lefty Hollywood movie would portray. Of course not.
We may all have to think outside the box. Citizenship is a contract. As is governance. Two sides agree until one side doesn’t.
They’ve effectively already placed a gag order on the American people by calling truth ‘mis-dis-malinformation’ and banning, shadowbanning, demonetizing millions from social media. FYI it’s still going on in most major social media platforms with the ‘trusted news initiative’. Anything with the label of ‘trusted news initiative’, by the way consists exclusively of lies, propaganda, and obfuscations. If you go against it you will not be hired or promoted in most major corporations, universities, hospitals or government work and your credentials may be revoked(and have been) and you may be debanked(already happened).
The Democrats, ALL OF YOU, are the enemy of freedom loving peoples everywhere. YOU are the ENEMY and you will be dealt with eventually, legally (unlike ‘your way” using lawfare).
Alvin Bragg got away with disregarding the statute of limitations, categorizing a misdemeanor as a felony, and making a bookkeeping entry a crime worse than assaulting or shooting a police officer, so now he wants to slap a muzzle on the number 1 presidential candidate, just to show how powerful he is. This is just a promotional stunt to puff up (literally) his image for a bigger, more powerful job in the future.
God help the State of NY when he runs for governor.
Yes, Bragg is a bitch.
“How long until the same doctrine is being used to muzzle not just Trump but everyone?”
We are there already.
I do believe that was the purpose of the pLandemic – to muzzle us – to keep us apart – to confuse and pit the vox populi against each other – I almost got into a fist fight with a Vietnam vet who wore a sniper hat in a dispensary because my mask was below my nose and I asked him, you’ve lived longer than me, don’t you see the bullshit? Obviously, the dude was not MAGA. Now they are talking about a bird flu many times worse than their covid pLandemic and other things to follow to lock us down.
Clear First Amendment violation. You simply cannot gag someone because a third party may act on that person’s speech unless the speech is intended to incite imminent violence and uttered under circumstances likely to produce such imminent lawless action. I guess that, genius that he is, Bragg never heard of Brandenburg v. Ohio.
they are scared rats – they have their rat masters who think because they are filthy rich they can control the world? YHVH has a big surprise for them. This is why they are called demon-cRats!
Dictatorship and fascism at work.
People like Bragg are thugs who should never be in any government positions, or any position of power./leadership. It’s in their psychopathic genes to be hateful thugs/dictators/fascists.
Most people can see right thru their undeserving titles, for who they really are.
So people simply state the fact that such people do not belong in their positions.
It has nothing to do with his victim Trump, or any other victims. They simply can’t stand any criticism.
Hey Fat Alvin….gag on this you effing communist.
“Fat Alvin.” That’s a good one I used to watch that “Fat Albert” cartoon when I was a kid.
Hey Hey Hey It’s Fat Alvin and Fat Azz Fanny and after we get done eating these chicken wings we’re coming from you – thing is we can’t stop eating – and here comes desert a big bowl of pasta – we’ll wash that down with pizza and beer followed by taking Diaper Dementia Decrepit Joe Briben ice cream – we’ll hijack and Ice Cream Truck and drive it to the White House – I think when President Trump and Melania move back into the White House, they will need the place fumigated and sanitized. Remember, scum bag HellAry Klingon ransacked the White House and was told to bring stuff back on the way out when she was 1st Lady
That’s all true! The White House will need to be fumigated and sanitized. If anybody has bedbugs it’s the Bidens.
Fat Alvin. That *is* a good one.
The only Alvin that comes to my mind is Alvin and the Chipmunks 🙂
Somewhat reinforces the point that the goal of the case wasn’t some twisting of an obscure law but an election.