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First, in contrast to what you may have seen being pushed by a small group of online influencers, this was not WWIII, it did not lead to ‘boots on the ground’ or thousands of Americans dead. Those were lies.
Israel’s current plan is to wrap up the operation this week. President Trump has made it clear that he intends no further attacks unless Iran escalates.
Prime Minister Netanyahu has said that Israel would welcome the fall of the Jihadist regime in Tehran, but that’s up to the Iranian people. Israeli planes have hit regime security targets like the Basji militias and the gates of a notorious prison, making a potential revolution more viable, but that’s it.
President Trump’s ‘regime change’ tweet touched off hysteria from the usual suspects who claim to be more MAGA than Trump, but the reality is he has the same position. It would be a good thing if the regime falls and if American external pressure can do it, that would be good, but there won’t be any nation-building.
There’s a big difference between regime change and nation building. In the Bush/Obama era, people tended to conflate the two. If an evil regime fell, we needed to have a plan to build democracy there.
Some people still stick to that worldview, they’re perhaps the last neo-cons or liberal interventionists (otherwise an endangered political species), but they’re a minority with no influence on Trump.
Regime change is possible without nation building. It means defeating or overthrowing enemy governments, directly or indirectly. There was regime change in WWII with some nation building. The Cold War ended with regime change without nation building. If Iran’s Supreme Leader and his theocracy end up collapsing as a result of the Israeli and American strikes, that will be regime change, but it’s only nation-building if we go in and start trying to manage the outcome.
I’m skeptical that there will be regime change in Iran. I think nation building is wildly unlikely. And remember the same people telling you we would be doing nation building were also telling you that WWIII was about to break out.
A realistic approach is to look at how Trump actually thinks without the hysteria or the projection.
Trump would welcome the fall of Iran’s regime, he isn’t sending in troops for nation building.
“…but it’s only nation-building if we go in and start trying to manage the outcome.”
I understand the distinction, but I think it may be without a difference. Why do we give so much of our money to foreign governments without distinction between friend / enemy? Should we think there are no strings attached? To what purpose is this other than nation building?
The left is completely flummoxed by PRESIDENT TRUMP’s actions and beliefs! It’s rather simple really – it’s called COMMON SENSE! If your roof is leaking the solution is not getting pots and pans to catch the drips – you FIX the ROOF! If someone keeps calling for your DEATH and is developing the means to do so, you ACT FIRST! When someone TELLS you what they will do then ACT like you BELIEVE them! If an attacker comes at you with a knife or machete or baseball bat do you wait to see if they will actually stab, hack, or whack you? You SHOULDN’T !! If you have a weapon for self-defense you should use it!
If he Iranians can manage to rid themselves of the mullahs and other islamic lunatics they can return to a FREE Nation that has vast resources that can be used to fix their Nation and allow them to prosper in PEACE. If that happens then watch it spread to other muslim Nations! Just imagine how the WOMEN will be better off – treated as HUMANS rather than PROPERTY!! I pray that it all happens!!
Nation building is Delusional.
Yes, and sending in troops is completely unnecessary. B-2 bombers and missiles work just fine, and those mullah monkeys have no defense against them. They didn’t even know the B-2s were in “their” airspace when they bombarded the shit out of them.
They’ll try to strike backs though, mark my words. And that will be the death sentence they earned 46 years ago. They’re such weak ass pussies.