The Democrats learned on their political machine to survive the 2022 midterms and turned out their base, white female college graduates and black voters, but the overall shift is continuing and it’s worrying the Times.
In the past two elections — 2020 and 2022 — Asian Americans have moved toward the right, according to election returns and exit polls. Democrats still won Asian voters by a wide margin in last year’s midterms but by less than in the recent past:
While Zeldin’s stunning numbers among Asians in New York City have been widely discussed, Texas has not.
In Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott, the Republican incumbent, beat Beto O’Rourke among Asian voters, 52 percent to 46 percent, and Texas House Republicans also did well, according to polls by the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund. In statewide races in Florida and Georgia, the Republican candidates received at least one-third of the vote, substantially more than in previous elections.
One question though is to what extent is this a tilt among immigrants that isn’t sustained among their more aspirational kids and grandkids? The GOP used to perform well with Vietnamese, but those numbers got shakier with the next generation. The same goes to some degree for Cubans, Russian and Middle Eastern Jews, and some Latin American immigrants. These are groups where the immigrants tend to click with Republicans over a strong foreign policy, opposition to Communism, terrorism, etc and suspicion of socialism, but then they scrimp and save to send their kids to the Icy League with the same results as American Jews.
The Times suggests that it’s a class issue. And class issue among high-performing immigrant groups suggests first-generation arrivals.
Nationally, the rightward drift of Asian voters is connected to a new class divide in American politics. The Democratic Party, especially its liberal wing, has increasingly come to reflect the views of college-educated professionals. This development has had some benefits for Democrats, helping them win more suburban voters and flip Arizona and Georgia in recent elections.
To a growing number of working-class voters, however, the newly upscale version of the party has become less appealing. The trend has long been evident among white working-class voters, and many liberal analysts have claimed that it mostly reflects racial bigotry. But recent developments have weakened that argument. Class appears to be an important factor as well. Since 2018, more Asian and Latino voters have supported Republicans, and these voters appear to be disproportionately working-class.
The Left’s reach remains quite potent among upper-middle-class professionals, but it’s a trade-off as both Republicans and Democrats are discovering. You pursue working-class voters and you turn off some of the suburbanites. You pursue middle-class voters and you turn off some of the working-class voters.
You can’t have it all.
That’s why the Dem dream of a permanent majority doesn’t work unless they seize control and thoroughly rig the system to the extent that elections are permanently irrelevant so that no amount of backlash can topple them. Despite what some people think, they haven’t actually managed that anywhere, not even in California, but they do have plans for it and give them enough time to nationalize elections and let the DOJ and its slate of Federal judges and secretaries of state determine how every election should run, it will be over. Or not.
The assumption that a backlash can be neutralized by manipulating elections is historically foolish.
People are not counters in a Marxist jelly bean demographic counting contest. Asians are reminding them of that.
Apparently, many Asian-Americans realize what Ron DeSantis shills (NeverTrumpers in drag) don’t– The choice in 2024 is between DJT and the Deep Blue Sea. Whether he’s on the ballot or not, 2024 may be the last presidential election where the voters have a viable candidate– DJT– who is not approved by the Deep State Gestapo. What about career politician Ron DeSantis? Please.
If Trump wins the GOP nomination, you’ll come to us begging on your knees … lol
I remember that in the 1970s, the Vietnamese immigrant students I knew who had been exposed first hand to the horrors of Communism were pretty conservative. Fine people.
Yes, one of my friends from sixth grade through high school was ethnic Vietnamese and he remembers being evacuated by helicopter by the US Army. He also told me how much the suffered under the commies and how his grandmother would catch anything she could to help feed the family, including dogs, snakes and I think rats. That family were not fans of leftism and the father voted for Reagan, I’m sure.
So your position is that the Democrats have not rigged elections yet, but they plan to “seize control and thoroughly rig the system to the extent that elections are permanently irrelevant so that no amount of backlash can topple them” but, at the same time, “the assumption that a backlash can be neutralized by manipulating elections is historically foolish.”
So which is it? You can’t have it all…
Work on your reading comprehension, Dickorn. He wrote that Dirtbagocrats DREAM of permanently irrelevant elections. Historically no backlash has been prevented.
So which is it? Do you want one party rule by the Dirtbagocrats or do you want America to be successful and continue to exist? You can’t have both…
This seems to have whizzed past you. Did you miss the “Or not”?
Mickorn, this seems to have whizzed past you. Did you miss the “Or not”?
I bet plenty whizzes past him and on him during his golden shower sessions.
Efforts at simplification may result in recognition as a simpleton.
I suspect you are over your head.
They gave Clinton and Obama the Chane they blew it now they turn to Trump for reelection and dismiss all those fake charges
“The Times suggests that it’s a class issue.”
Moving towards the Republicans does not mean moving towards the Right. At this point in American history it just means moving from the fire back into the frying pan.
It’s not a class issue, it’s a lack of thinking issue. Not thinking about what altruism really means and what selfishness really means. The first generation of refugee Jews, Cubans, and Asians don’t know what altruism really means but they’ve experienced the reality of what it really means. And so they don’t make the thinking connection between altruism and the final reality of altruism which is the brutality of socialism.
The second generation hasn’t even the prudent disgrace of experiencing the brutal reality. So they “idealistically” vote for more altruism.
It’s not a class issue, it’s a lack of thinking issue. It’s an indoctrination issue. Indoctrination into the moral code of altruism. You can be religious and be an altruist or you can be an atheist and be an altruist. Until altruism is rejected and rational selfishness discovered and championed nothing will change.
How many violent unthinking and unphilosophical rebellions were there by the peasants/serfs during the 1,000 years of the Christian Dark Ages? They were all crushed by the collectivist-altruist theocracy. Even Martin Luther approved of it.
A blind rebellion from pain and frustration is not a thinking, intellectual, moral revolution.
If you haven’t discovered what is causing your disease, you cannot discover the cure. The situation is even worse than that, the cause of the disease, altruism, is thought to be the cure. And the cure for the disease, rational selfishness, is thought to be the cause.
THe Slimes wrote that it was ALSO a class issue. The lying turds still claim that working class whitey is racist and votes that way, which wouldn’t make sense even if it were true. Whites are the only candidates in the vast majority of elections.
No, RINOs aren’t conservative but as usual, your Ayn Rand altruism bullshit is tedious. Medieval serfs weren’t oppressed by altruism, they were oppressed by the type of tyranny the Dirtbagocrats want to impose on America.
And Christians are the ONLY people who preserved writing, knowledge and civilization during the Middle Ages.
Atheism is for fools who pretend to know the unknowable. Nihilism is not a philosophy.
NY Times is “The Uptown Daily Worker.” William F. Buckley, Jr.
1000 years of the Christian Dark Ages? I wonder what dates he would put on that period.
Ayn Rand BC? 🙂 Or BA, I guess, which is also an initialism fore bare ass, which is apt in Rand’s case.
The most fanatical people I talk to are atheists. In the interest of full disclosure, I haven’t yet spoken with any Islamonazis.
Atheists HAVE the ANSWER to the ultimate question. Their response to those who disagree is ridicule.
Most of them preemptively ridicule Christians – but never moslems. They say they hate all religions but they lie because they never insult unholy islam or any other religion except Christianity.
This is so true. Many Asians understand what communism does to society, and what is like to live under and have become Conservative voters.