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One of the soothing notions being disseminated by the Biden administration is that Hamas must be clearly distinguished from the “ordinary people” in Gaza, who, we are led to believe, deplore the terrorist atrocities and want only to be left alone to lead peaceful lives. It’s a comforting thought, but it isn’t true. In recent polls, taken after October 7, 76% of Gazans said they support Hamas, in the full knowledge of what Hamas did on that day, when it beheaded babies, burned children to death, raped, tortured, and murdered young girls, gouged out eyes, sliced off breasts, and cut off the genitalia of Israelis, both before and after death, murdered children in front of their parents and parents in front of their children. Three-quarters of those we keep being told are “innocent civilians” have approved of those atrocities. Can they be called “innocent”? More on this can be found here: “‘Show Me One Palestinian Who Tried to Save a Jew on Oct. 7’: Hostage Families Highlight Culpability of Gazan Population,” by Debbie Weiss, Algemeiner, November 27, 2023:
Families of hostages seized by the Hamas terror group on Oct. 7 experienced a mix of relief and anxiety at a rally marking “50 days of hell” on Saturday night as they grappled with the bittersweet reality of the release of some hostages while many others remained in captivity, amid multiple delays on the part of Hamas.
Speakers at the rally, which drew some 100,000 people to the renamed Hostage Square outside the Tel Aviv Museum of Art, called to “bring home all of them now.”
As of Sunday night, a total of 40 Israeli hostages were released with Hamas indicating that it was interested in extending the ceasefire. Terrorists led by Hamas abducted over 240 people during their Oct. 7 massacre across southern Israel.
Thirteen hostages, mostly from Kibbutz Be’eri, were released on Saturday some six hours after the 4 pm deadline after Hamas accused Israel of short-changing on the promised delivery of fuel and humanitarian aid — a claim that was denied by the International Committee of the Red Cross — and releasing the wrong Palestinian security prisoners in exchange.
As usual, Hamas makes unfounded accusations against Israel — claiming that it had “short-changed” on the amount of fuel and humanitarian aid it had promised to allow into Gaza. But this time, the ICRC (the International Red Cross) firmly took Israel’s side, and Hamas dropped its specious complaint.
Be’eri resident Nir Shani, whose son, Amit, turned 16 in captivity, was not surprised by the delay.
“It’s not unexpected, sadly. It would’ve been weird if it would have gone smoothly as planned. It was obviously going to happen,” Shani told The Algemeiner.
Shani further said he wasn’t surprised by the Oct. 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas.
“They did exactly what they said they would do if they got the chance. We’ve seen it before,” he said, pointing to terror attacks against Jews even before the founding of the state.
Shani’s views stand in sharp contrast with those of other members of his kibbutz, who maintain that a peaceful resolution to the conflict — likely in the form of two states — is still possible.
He also refused to extend clemency to the Palestinian population in Gaza as being innocent.
“I don’t make a distinction between them and Hamas. We’ve all heard about the righteous among the nations in the Holocaust. Tell me of one Palestinian who tried to save one Jew after Oct. 7,” he said.
There are no such stories, alas. Not a single Arab appears to have tried to save an Israeli’s life. In fact, it was not only Hamas operatives who committed atrocities that day, but also ordinary people from Gaza who accompanied the Hamas invaders, joining in the orgy of killing, theft, and also in raping Israeli girls, taking some of them back into Gaza — these are not, remember, Hamas operatives but ordinary Gazans joining in the fun — to serve as sex slaves. Some of them, not in Hamas’ hands, may still be alive.
Shani cited Daniel Lifshitz, the grandson of 85-year-old released hostage Yocheved Lifshitz, as saying that his grandmother was “spat on by hundreds of Gazans on the back of a motorbike.”…
The contempt and cruelty shown by “hundreds of Gazans” who spat on an 85-year-old Israeli grandmother, who had been taken into Gaza by a Hamas operative on a motorbike, is one more bit of evidence that we should not call such people “innocent civilians.”
Images of Ohad Munder, who turned 9 in captivity, blowing bubbles and playing with a Rubik’s cube shortly after his release on Friday, flooded Israeli media. He was released along with his mother, Keren, 54, and grandmother Ruth, 78. His grandfather, 78-year-old Avraham Munder, is still in Gaza. Avraham’s niece, Merav Mor Raviv, cited Keren as saying that the food supply in captivity was up and down and on some days there was nothing more than a bit of rice.
She told Israel’s Channel 12 that there “were also many Hebrew speakers [in Gaza], who spoke to them.”…
Who were these Hebrew-speaking Arabs? They were undoubtedly among the 20,000 Gazans who had been given permits to work in Israel. Some of them, we now know, provided information to Hamas on the best ways into Israel, the layout and populations of the kibbutzim, the presence or absence of security, and in some cases, even the number, and age, of family members.
Despite Israel’s claim that the ceasefire agreement included the release of mothers whose children were set free, Hila Rotem, a 13-year-old, was captured by Hamas terrorists along with her mother Raya Rotem, aged 54, but only Hila was released on Saturday, leaving her mother still held hostage in Gaza….
By freeing 13-year-old Hila Rotem but not her mother, Hamas has violated the agreement, by which it had been obligated to release mothers whose children were set free. But no Israeli is surprised that Hamas tried to get out of honoring its solemn promise. There will be many more such violations, by Hamas, during this interminable hostage-for-prisoner exchange.
As for those “innocent civilians” whom the terrible Israelis have not spared with their airstrikes, let’s not forget that three-quarters of them approved of Hamas’ atrocities. And don’t forget, either, about the mobs of Gazans who screamed blood-curdling threats, and threw rocks at the hostages as they were brought into Gaza on October 7. And what shall we call those hundreds of Gazans who spit on an Israeli grandmother as she was brought to Gaza on a motorbike? What about the Gazans who threw rocks at the hostages who were being taken out of Gaza to be exchanged for Palestinian prisoners? Can any of these people be considered “innocent” civilians? Given half a chance, they would set upon these Israelis and finish the job that Hamas operatives had chosen not to complete, in order to use those Israelis as bargaining chips in a trade for Arab prisoners.
There are some “innocent civilians” in Gaza. But there are not nearly as many as we are led to believe by the media, which assumes that anyone who is not a member of Hamas automatically becomes an “innocent civilian.” Those who admire Hamas, support Hamas, happily celebrate the atrocities it committed, who furthermore express murderous hatred of Israeli hostages, both as they were first brought into Gaza and then, in the hostage exchange, brought out, should be considered willing collaborators with the terror group, and ought to be treated as such.
Exactly.
I have noted no difference between Hamas and Palestinians.. All supported the 10/7 attack, as has the rest of the Muslim world.
Religion of peace, my ass.
Prove me wrong. Please.
Yep, just like when they were dancing in the streets and handing out candy upon hearing of 9/11
How many innocent civilians are there really in Gaza? What a great rhetorical question. We all know the real-time answer!!
A child with an unformed mind would be the only innocent.
And unfortunately most of the children’s minds there have already been formed by Hamas starting at the age of 5. Many of Gaza’s children are future terrorists
While on the subject I have tried to get Israel’s Holocaust museum Yad Vashem to add the late, great heavyweight boxing champ Max Schmeling as a RIGHTEOUS GENTILE for saving two Jewish brothers on Kristallnaucht in Berlin..https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-12-23-sp-588-story.html
Where are the Neo-Nazi Skinheads we were always seeing and reading and hearing so much about years ago? Not a Word about them
You mean the six of them that come to the KKK rallies?
What a great question, I have a close friend coming to dinner tonight and he’s a bit of a lefty, if the subject comes up I’ll ask him.
What is very concerning for America is the surprisingly large support for Hamas here in the USA.
How can people that grew up in America support such behavior?
The Vice President came out with this the other day in her new role as negotiations tsar (an alarming development in itself): “the Palestinian Authority needs to be “revitalized.” There’s the answer to your question. Stupid, ignorant people support Hamas.
Well, they’ve been thoroughly mind-eff’d by our Leftist media and academic institutions. And, for all their yammering about “social justice” are devoid of a sense of morality. That’s what happens when you have a “God shaped hole” in your society.
I’d say mostly because of our educational system here. The Marxist indoctrination that takes place in the public schools through the twisting of history in villianizing America to the lack of godly morals being taught and then the Marxist indoctrination that continues on an even stronger level in many colleges and universities
Because just like the Palestinian children, their minds are being warped by the leftist professors in our universities. Our United States history, along with history in general is being totally rewritten.
Even the MSM (I don’t know why I say “even”) has played a big role in this by rewriting history and selling Islam as a peaceful religion, while at the same time demonizing Christians as theocrats, terrorists, and tyrants.
This has been going on for a hundred years. Starting in the university and filtering down with each generation.
“Palestinian'” is a terrorist organization.
It’s a very simple fact that so many low IQ people have a very hard time understanding.
Hence the 24% of those NOT among the supporters of Hamas atrocities. No opinion. No thought. Useful tools.
Most of those in Gaza who do not support Hamas nevertheless support similar groups such as Islamic Jihad and Lion’s Den. Virtually all Gazans wish to see Israel annihilated. They’re merely noncombatants, not “innocent civilians.”
“…the renamed Hostage Square outside the Tel Aviv Museum of Art,”
I searched in vain for the Museum’s “Palestinian” counterpart…nothing comes up re: Ramallah Museum of Art, Khan Yunis Museum of Art, Gaza City Museum of Art, etc.
Similarly, a search for the “Palestinian” counterpart of the Israel Philharmonic came up with nothing. No Ramallah Symphony Orchestra, no Gaza City Pro Musica, no Jenin Sinfonia…nothing. Maybe UNRWA can underwrite a new museum and orchestra to provide a venue for all the gifted portraitists and musicians who abound in “Palestine’s” rich cultural environment. Or how about a new opera or choral society not only for “Palestine’s” many world class singers, but for its many fine composers who are clamoring to have their many new operatic and choral works performed?
More likely UNRWA will build a Palestinian Museum of Suicide Bombings, Car Rammings, and Stabbings. It will be quite large.
Quite right, Kasandra. And perhaps UNRWA should also plan to build a museum to honor all the many prominent Muslim historical figures who destroyed Hindu, Buddhist, and Christian religious paintings and statuary over the past millenium.
Exactly! I’ve heard what the children who are UNRWA students have to say about Israel and the Jews; what they are taught at their schools and how they want to stab Jews and run over them with their cars. Also, some UNRWA teachers took part in holding h the Israeli hostages in their homes.NOT to be trusted!
Did any AMERICAN student try to save the Jews that were held hostage in the library? How about the Jew student who was surrounded and mobbed? How about coming to the defense of a Professor who spoke out against Hamas, video edited which caused a near-riot?
How about a MAGA student daring to wear a MAGA HAT?
What’s the difference between Hamas and our Mobs? NONE! And yet, our Mobs are not the Domestic Terrorists, parents at school board meetings, are!
Gaza was (and perhaps still is) home to the “Hitler 2” clothing store. Its owner was interviewed on U Tube and said he chose the name because Hitler killed the most Jews (the Palestinians know the Holocaust is an undeniable historical event even though “moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas” wrote his doctoral thesis denying it). What sort of people would shop at, or even accept the presence of a store named “Hitler 2”?
“How many “innocent civilians” are there really in Gaza?” I believe in Europe they pronounce it zed. Zero. The big goose egg. Nada. None. Bubkus.
Great article. This is exactly why Gaza must be, literally, made into a parking lot. As we have seen, there are no ‘good’ Gazans. They all have been weaned on Jew-hatred as taught by Hamas and UNRWA ‘teachers.’
Have we all forgot about Gaza’s ‘summer camps’ where little campers go around in camo outfits with Hamas headbands and carry tiny machine guns? Guess who they are indoctrinated to kill?
Bomb Gaza flat. Leave nothing standing.
This is much broader than just Gaza and Hamas. There is such a dearth of “moderate Muslims” proclaiming, “Not in my name!” to their bloodthirsty co-religionists that it is fair to conclude the problem isn’t “radical Islamists” but Islam itself.
Exactly. Islam needs to be wiped off the planet.
The best thing to do is to try the war criminals in an international tribunal set up for the purpose and execute the guilty parties. Then anyone left can choose between swearing loyalty to Israel or banishment with resettlement assistance. These people need to be dispersed in non-Muslim lands with immediate family and grandparents only.. There are thousands of young children. If their parents were war criminals, then they should be adopted out to a place with no Palestinians. There are a few hundred Christians in Gaza, according to Open Doors. Hopefully they were real Christians and didn’t help Hamas. They and the few who will pledge allegiance to Israel should have local self-governance and receive land. Owners of the land should be compensated, unless they were war criminals. In that case, their land could be given to the Israel supporters or sold to pay for rebuilding infrastructure. The tunnel remaining could be for storage of potatoes and other items that have a long shelves life and used for geothermal power, but they must be open to police at any time. In short, banishment is the most humane punishment for supporting Hamas without having an actual hand in war crimes. I’m sure there are Israeli spies in the population, and they need to he rewarded. If they are common criminals, then they should be banished with generous resettlement aid. If they were informants without a criminal past, then they can stay. Countries can be bribed to take these people: a family to Belize, one to Samoa, 1 to Paraguay etc and helped to start resorts, restaurants or other ventures helpful to the local economy. It’s cheaper to resettle people than to spend on military police to control a hostle population. Hopefully after a couple of generations of success and friendship in the new country, the people will be happy and forger their grandparents grievances and say, “Israel helped us build our hotel or Israel helped us go to college or establish our family medical clinic. We would never prosper like this in Gaza or Israel.”
Nothing has changed since the February 1941 first poll (by Sari Sakakini) among Arabs in mandatory Palestine , whereby 88% supported Hitler, the Nazis.
Remember:
Arabism is racism.
Islamism is bigotry.
The dual intolerant war on the ‘other’ i.e. Israel = mostly non-Arab, non-Muslim.
This article is basically indirectly saying: don’t feel any guilt about most non-combatant civilians dying because they mostly all support Hamas ( except for children less than, say, 10 ). The author also probably thinks he’s so clever to have thought about this angle, to make it easier for some to swallow the fact of all the carnage without excessive anguish. In the case of the above Nazi commentators like ”Sword of the Spirit ” and ” David Palmer ”, we probably have what the author intended : scumbags OK with bombing away without any thought for civilians because they are ALL ”collaborators”. We end up with the appalling murderous opinion of some Frontpage genocidal extermanationists, as bad and fucking evil as Hamas .
Although I generally support the Israelis ( like Bernie Sanders, fellow socialist ), I am deeply troubled by all those innocent Palestinians caught in an unbeleivable Hell , even though the ultimate cause of that Hell is Hamas. One cannot know for sure what civilians support them , and which do not. In that case, give any civilian the benefit of the doubt, even if they secretly support Hamas . It’s the right thing to do, and gives Israel a moral edge. Some Palestinians may even be swayed by Israeli good will towards civilians. , like warning them that an attack is imminent. But where do they go after that ? Perhaps some bomb free enclave in Gaza near Egypt could be established, only open to women, children, and old people.
Please try to avoid using the term “Palestinians”. They are Moslem Arabs. By calling them “Palestinians” we are only lending legitimacy to their claims to own the entire territory of the former British Palestine Mandate.
Hamas already proved they murder wantonly. Who expects them to follow an agreement?
If the term “Palestinian” embraces the Arab citizens of Israel, there were plenty of instances of selfless heroism on October 7th shown by Israeli Arabs and – so far as I know – no treachery.
If so, that’s wonderful. But on the flip side,many in the Arab neighborhoods in Israel shoot off fireworks and celebrate whenever there is a terror attack against Israel. They even did this on October 7th.
Do you mean the six of them that come to the KKK rallies?
To the question posed in the title, the answer is yes.
I saw one story where an Arab Muslim, living in one of the attacked communities, saw that an Israeli man attempting to drive his wife and children to safety was gunned down. This Arab Muslim rushed to the car, and drove the woman and her children to the nearest police station, where both he and the woman were killed by the terrorists. But the police arrived in time to save the children.
My point is, lets not judge one man by the actions of another.
One of the hostages, Ron Krivoy, managed to escape from his Hamas captors and tried to reach the Israeli forces that entered Gaza. So called “peaceful Gazans” found him and brought him back to Hamas. Later he was released during a ceasefire as a present from Hamas to Putin (he also holds a Russian citizenship). That is how Gaza civilians help Israeli hostages…
islam is a terrorist entity , it has been so since its inception . it’s founder was a murdering , delusional , sexual predator . nothing has changed . considering no one is taught history in the supposed learning facilities , americans in general are ignorant of their own history let alone the history of israel and the middle east . hence the reason america and the west have so many useful idiots in their ranks . all the more horrifying is that their political leaders are at the front of the parade . it is obvious that america hasn’t learnt anything since the planes took out the world trade centre . delusional joe and his band of miscreants still are proffering the 2 state fiction and referring to a fictional group known as the fakestinians . america along with the west are condemned . it is only going to get worse .
Prayers for all who are directly affected by this. Especially praying for a change of heart for the terrorists and those who support them
Terrorists DO NOT have hearts… thus your prayers are falling on “deaf ears.”
After the attack and when I first began hearing/reading about concerns for the innocents in Gaza, I couldn’t help thinking of the story in Genesis 18, where God is about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah and Abraham asks Him to refrain due to possible innocents. Abraham asks if there are 50 good people, should it be destroyed, and God said if there are 50 He won’t destroy it. Abraham says what about 30, then 20, then 10, and God agrees that if there are 10 He won’t destroy it. But He does not find even 10 so the place is destroyed. That’s what I believe we have in Gaza. Sad to say. God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but told Israel to destroy their enemies so they would not be a snare to them, a destruction. That’s what we have here and why it needs to be leveled. Let them find refuge in Muslim nations. If they had ever wanted to peaceful coexistence they could have had that along with their own land, but they never would agree to it and never will. It’s just not possible, by their very own words and that of Bible prophecy.