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The chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Michael McCaul, has publicly asserted that from several different sources it is now clear that Egypt warned Israel in advance that “something big” was about to happen in Gaza, and that that warning was ignored by Israel.
More on this can be found here: “Egypt warned Israel three days before Hamas massacre – US congressman,” Jerusalem Post, October 11, 2023:
US House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Michael McCaul told reporters on Wednesday that Egypt had warned Israel three days before Hamas’s assault on southern Israel that “an event like this could happen,” according to US media.
“There seems to have been a failure of intelligence. We’re not quite sure how we missed it. We’re not quite sure how Israel missed it,” said McCaul after a classified briefing about the war.
“We know that Egypt had warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen. We know this event was planned perhaps as long as a year ago,” added the House Foreign Affair chair….
The Prime Minister’s Office has denied the reports, calling them “absolutely false” and stressing that “No message in advance has arrived from Egypt and the prime minister has neither spoken, nor met, with the head of Egyptian intelligence since the formation of the government, neither directly nor indirectly.”
It is entirely possible that such a warning never made it to the Prime Minister. Once the current war against Hamas is over, the government should investigate how high that warning did manage to go, and why it did not proceed all the way up the chain of command in time.
Egypt will certainly have to deny that it gave such a warning, lest the Palestinians use the fact of Egypt’s attempt to share intelligence with Israel as a weapon against El-Sisi’s government, with which Hamas has long been at odds, by portraying Cairo as a “traitor” to the Palestinian cause.
But Michael McCaul knows there are too many different sources for this story about an Egyptian warning for it not to be true. El-Sisi’s government, after all, has a vested information in helping Israel to foil any Hamas attack. Hamas is the local, Gazan branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. And the Muslim Brotherhood is the sworn enemy of the El-Sisi regime. which came to power after toppling, in a coup, the former President and MB stalwart, Mohamed Morsi in 2013.
In defense of the Israeli government, it could be argued that the warning was too vague to be of much value. But is that true? If you — Prime Minister Netanyahu, or IDF Chief Herzi Halevi, or Mossad director David Barnea, or those just below them — are told with a sense of great urgency, by the Egyptians, with whom you have been sharing (giving and receiving) intelligence for years, that “something big” is just about to happen in Gaza, wouldn’t that at least cause a movement of troops and armored vehicles, and even tanks, from the center of the country to the border of Gaza?
Of course, for the Israeli government to admit that it had received such warnings, but that they had never reached the highest echelon, will simply not do as an excuse. Twelve hundred dead Israelis are on everyone’s mind. The popular fury over the government’s failure to understand the significance of the Egyptian warning and to heed it, at the very least by moving a few thousand IDF troops to the border, might in the future be so great as to bring down the Netanyahu government. But that won’t be until after the current campaign in Gaza is over, and when, with the country needing to figure out what went wrong, an independent inquiry is launched into the causes of this most colossal failure to detect, and derail early on, the murderous onslaught by Hamas.
The fact that intelligence from Egypt to Israel – warning about what turned
out to be the worst attack on civilians in Israel’s history – never made it all
the way through the intelligence pipeline to those who could do something
about it is horrifying. I wonder if they have any Palestinian Arabs who are
Israeli citizens working for the intelligence community in Israel. Wasn’t there
something in the aftermath of the attack where Israel was worried about
their Palestinian Arabs rioting? Doesn’t sound like they think their Palestinian
Arab citizens are too trustworthy.
Or maybe the reason is because of some Lefty Israeli or cadre of Lefties more
devoted to the globalist Communist cause than to the survival of Israel.
Either way, Israel must deal with treachery from without and treachery from
within. And must somehow crawl away from the edge of doom’s abyss.
It is stunning intelligence went unheeded even from our own (corrupt) cia. However, the effort by a lone female soldier at an outpost who tried and tried to let her supervisors know something was up is also very troubling. VDH argues that Israel has perhaps grown a bit spoiled by years of comparative peace, comfort of wealth, and over confidence. Sort of like those in power here now. Possibly, we will see if they make a correction. Also striking is the different attitude of the US leaders between Ukraine and Israel. They argue for a “proportional” response for Israel while it’s all out in Ukraine. Interesting difference.
You have a valid point.
Just before Pearl Harbor, warnings also poured in.
Intelligence has to be processed and verified.
When imperfect people like us make decisions; inevitable mistakes can and will happen. It’s kinda understandable – just not excused.
(Me? The “land for peace” bullshit made what happened on the 7th inevitable. The Oct 7th attack was just the big outgrowth from the seeds sown long ago.)
Our BIG problem is we have a grifting sympathizer in the Oval Office who is wilfully blind to any/all warnings to us and our allies.
(Why? The CCP in China owns a majority share in *Biden Inc. Their investment is, so far, paying serious dividends.)
I fail to understand how such a stupid question could even be asked. No Palestinian even serves in our army. Israeli Arabs are not required to serve although many do. It’s time for people to actually think before posting a question. The failure is to be firmly placed at the doors of our military intelligence and the Shin Bet. The heads of both organizations have conceded this, and they know they will lose their jobs when this is over. Netanyahu should also lose his.
I have a warning. Something big is going to happen in Gaza within the next few days.
All the protests in Washington and elsewhere will not change people’s minds who support Israel and know the truth about Hamas and the unfair attacks on Jews worldwide,.
It is seriously unfortunate they do not understand the argument of Jordan, Egypt, France, Poland, but fell so hard for the savagery and butchery of the degenerate throwbacks.
? The Egyptians already debunked this fake news…
True…..which makes me think there is a conpsirosy being cooked up.
Wait and see someone will start saying he and the CIA cooked this up and allowed it to happen so they can lead their Zionist armies on a genocidal land grab.
Did you miss the part of the article that stated Egypt must rebut this report? Come on, man!
Before it’s all over, we will find out the U.S. had prior knowledge of the attack but withheld the intel from Israel.
Given that Egypt is a listening post for US intelligence, the US likely had knowledge of what was coming. What they did/did not do with that knowledge is the question. One explanation is that Washington wanted to blame Israel for the intelligence failure in order to cover its own derriere for doing nothing. A credible analysis of this theory is on The Tablet magazine online.
Actually, Israel would have had prior knowledge of the attack if only they had opened their eyes and looked! War games and troup buildups were going on at the border for weeks before the attack. I even found an article claiming that the venue for the outdoor concert was changed from a more secure location a few days earlier. Something here has smelled from the beginning.
“A vested information?” Don’t you mean “a vested interest?”
Moot point now.
Thus sounds a lot like the supposed israeli attack on a hospital that never happened. It sounds like a leftwing smear to Netanyahu who has had the entire Biden administration (Obama that is) trying to derail him.
The leftwing idea of encouraging Muslims with jobs or with peace offerings or with a state is naive. Thats what we should be discussing. That and the shameful Western hate for Jewish human beings we see in the West A week after genocidal slaughter and demonic sadism, and to babies, no less, we are back to blaming Israel and chanting ‘death to Jews” on college campuses with college administrations in full support. In American and Australian streets they chant genocidal intent toward Jews with the lust and glee of the Hamas rapist murderers.
Isn’t this what we should investigate? Why is THIS warning about the fall of our civilization not heeded?
No where is it mentioned that several IDF former personnel have gone on video stating
that it is IMPOSSIBLE that this was an intel failure. There are sensors along every foot of border. “A cat can’t walk along the fence without being detected”. People watching live video 24/7. There is also video of border gates WIDE OPEN with pickup trucks with men in the back streaming through.
Given this TRUTH, what are we to make of any explanation that follows? That this was indeed Israel’s 9/11. An inside job…
It’s all fucking lies, and when Trump gets in there I feel sorry for what what the fuck he’s gonna do to assholes like you.. actually, I won’t feel sorry we’ll probably have a big party and celebrate. You’ll be on the unemployment line and destitute when it’s all over you fucking muckraker.
Americans have to consider two equally terrifying possibilities here: Either the intel apparatuses of Israel AND America are so grossly incompetent, they require a head-to-toe makeover, or they are so grossly corrupt they would sacrifice citizens of their own nations to advance a degenerate globalist agenda.
Ah, General Ahlert speaks.
>two equally terrifying possibilities here
Well, I’m glad you added the proviso, “possibilities” (though what you’re really doing is insinuating an accusation). Try this, instead: neither incompetent nor corrupt, just not being able to suss-out the signal from the noise and not being able to penetrate a closed circle of high level planners which never exceeded a handful of men who never used electronics to communicate, maybe? Beyond that, that Hamas existed and was always training and improving their skills was well known to Israel. However, self referencing logic combined with wishful thinking… sorta like the Wise Men of Chelm…created a bit of a blind spot.
Seen the Gazans rioting or protesting against their Hamas overlords, have you? How about all these demonstrations in the West or elsewhere? Seen any “Hamas out of Gaza” signs? How about “Hamas: hands off Gaza?” I must have missed them since I haven’t seen a single one. Anywhere.
Yeah, I’m awaiting a thorough after action report before having any opinion on this. I think that’s the prudent thing to do. But that’s just me.
I don’t believe the Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. It’s a fact the globalist hate Israel, and Netanyahu in particular. A person on my Facebook feed, said Israel knew about the attack and let happen because of the Rothschild’s, or Passover ritual murder, or something, so there you have it.
All that is required is to bomb the ingress and egress points (which are at or around ground level). That will likely seal them off and underground. Let them run out of water, food and etc
You, Fitzgerald were amongst the first of Israel’s “supporters” in the rightosphere to attack Israel after the government announced court reform efforts. I say you never had the slightest idea that court reform was an issue for Israelis thats been sticking in their craw since the independence. Now you’re taking these claims about Egypt at face value–and pointing fingers. Warnings are issued all the time between Israel and its Arab neighbors; what do you know about the veracity or content of said warnings?
I suspect that Israel suffers from a corrupt partisan intelligence community similar to the one here in the US. I give you Brennan, Clapper and the rest of the partisan weenies who did all they could to undermine President Trump during his tenure and then signed a letter stating that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.
Bet you a tuna sandwich that the tip from Egypt never made it to Bibi’s desk because some traitor was sitting on the information.
It would not surprise me if we found out the ‘tip’ went to US assets or informants for plausible deniability … and found its way into a cul-de-sac … sort of 9/11 style.
The irresistible force of Islamic Jihad meets the immoveable object of Zionist Israel. Mutual annihilation? Nuclear Armageddon. The 76-year circle of mutual vengeance must soon end for the sake of ordinary folk, Jews, Arabs and the rest of us. Wise minds must prevail,
Brother … thousands of rockets … paragliders … boats … training … and no one noticed?! …
Sorry, but that does shock those of us who expect the watchmen to keep watch. Of course we can hypothesize that the Mossad has lost the ability to get human intelligence out of Gaza AND somehow the baby raping loonies managed to keep their plans off their cell phones and off their live cams and computers … it is possible.
… but is it even plausible?
I have a very good idea of what could have happened, but as I like breathing I’ll just point out that I’m an engineer that’s read a lot of confidential and proprietary information about our wonderful ‘surveillance’ state … and I find it incomprehensible that anyone could use electricity and still not be detected …
… but I also find it possible and plausible that incompetent and unqualified hacks could have been left in charge …
… or the business of sorting information flagged by non-human algorithms was out-sourced to – let’s just say – the ‘wrong’ parties …
… or it was discovered … but someone sat on the clues because Bibi needed a “gift” the way Trump “needed” Covid-1984 or Bush “needed” 9/11 … (and yes “we” employ people who are this evil – so why should we be surprised?)
As with other major disasters … I’m sure we will find out that there were many clues and warning signs along the way, which were ignored.
The only thing we can be sure of right now … is that Bibi and the Netanyahu government certainly did NOT intentionally create this disaster … as it poses no benefit at all to Bibi or anyone in his government … (unless your sick enough to believe they get some sadistic satisfaction out of this which also exceeds their desire for popularity and success at their jobs – never mind whether they love their nation and are loyal to their neighbors) …
In fact – regardless of the ‘tip’ or no ‘tip’ – this is a huge disaster for Bibi …
G-d bless Israel … and G-d bless us all …
You realistically frame the real possibilities that someone, or ones, screwed up big time, due to incompetence or for a big pay day.
Interesting. Is that source worthy?
It’s odd that so many of them celebrated wildly in the streets after learning of the butchery committed by Hamas. Granted not everyone were in the streets. But many, many were and were recorded jumping about deleriously screaming ‘death to the Jews.’.
Didn’t Brandon refuse bunker buster bombs to Israel? or maybe i have my wires crossed.
April 15, 1912 9:40pm: Warning to all ships in vicinity: Icebergs dead ahead
The message never got to the captain.
Similar things happened before 911 and Pearl Harbor.
Pattern here.
I have a better idea some U.S. Edward Snowden type crusading defense contractor gave vital Israeli intelligence to the murdering muhammaden paedophiles.
Days later now Lee Smith (tablet magazine and elsewhere) write that this “story” was put out there to (not only smear Israel and Netanyahu) to cover up the United States intelligence failure, or worse, very bad deeds.
Please check out those with terror or Iranian ties who are employed by the US government high up in the Biden administration.
That sounds more likely
The world cannot pretend that the Palestinian Authority’s aims are/were no different than Hamas’ aims. The history of suicide bombings, shootings, knifings, car rammings, and other terror attacks against Israel during the 30 years prior to Hamas speaks for itself.
And revealing this now helps us? How does it help us? It changes nothing. Hamas controls Gaza, no matter how they achieved the control. Hamas must be destroyed.
Thank you for the article.
Another disturbing reality is that Benjamin Netanyahu seems to be a member of the World Economic Forum. David Icke’s comment was that both Hamas and Netanyahu serve the same master. Some of the “conspiracy theory” sites reported that, but here he has a page right on the WEF web site:
https://www.weforum.org/people/benjamin-netanyahu