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Federal prosecutors last week announced the indictment of U.S. Representative George Santos (R-N.Y.) on a host of charges, including misuse of federal campaign funds and wire fraud, almost all of them resulting from his pathological lies.
Certainly, Santos deserved the attention of prosecutors for lying on federal documents and affidavits that may have helped him win a congressional seat as well as personal lucre.
But if that’s the case, why haven’t federal prosecutors also gone after Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.)? She clearly lied her way into a Harvard Law School professorship and an erstwhile presidential candidacy by claiming, in part, quite falsely she was a Native American, supposedly Harvard’s first indigenous law professor.
Her Senate colleague, Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), flatly lied (he said “misspoke”) about being a Vietnam War veteran. He never confessed to “misspeaking” about his résumé until caught. Both senators, apparently like Santos, gained political traction in their various campaigns from such lies, but the two apparently never put them in writing, or at least not as blatantly as did Santos.
New Federal Standards?
Are federal and states prosecutors now setting a new moral and legal standard by criminalizing Santos’ lies? If true, congratulations—it is long overdue.
Now can we please extend the long arm of the law to reach far beyond a bit player like Santos?
Why not reboot with the really big liars? Their lies far more undermined the integrity of our key agencies and indeed our national security.
So let us start with John Brennan, the former CIA director. He lied on two separate occasions, in one case while under oath before the U.S. Senate. His untruths were not mere campaign finance fabrications. They involved falsely swearing that the CIA did not spy on the computers of Senate staffers (“Let me assure you the CIA was in no way spying on [the committee] or the Senate.”). He also lied that U.S. drone missions in prior years had not killed innocent bystanders (“There hasn’t been a single collateral death because of the exceptional proficiency, precision of the capabilities that we’ve been able to develop.”).
Brennan, only when caught, admitted to both lies. But he faced zero consequences and, in fact, was soon rewarded with an on-air analyst job at MSNBC.
Then we come to James Clapper, the former director of the Office of National Intelligence. Like Santos, he lied. But unlike Santos, Clapper was under oath to Congress. And further unlike Santos, Clapper was not a small fish, but a whale in charge of coordinating the nation’s intelligence bureaus.
Clapper’s lies mattered a great deal, especially when he swore to Congress that the National Security Agency did not spy on Americans. (“No, sir. Not wittingly.”) When caught, Clapper confessed that he gave “the least untruthful answer.” (“I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful, manner by saying ‘no.’”). He faced zero consequences for his perjury. And like Brennan, he marketed his anti-Trump phobias into a comfortable cable news gig.
Note well that both Clapper and Brennan likely lied again when they signed the infamous Hunter Biden laptop letter, with a wink and nod suggesting it was a hallmark example of “Russian disinformation.”
Then we come to the former interim FBI Director Andrew McCabe. He is also currently working as a cable news commentator. McCabe admitted to lying—according to the inspector general, “done knowingly and intentionally”—four separate times to federal investigators, three times under oath. McCabe misled the country in matters that concerned a national election, more specifically lying that he had not leaked to the media to massage media narratives about the FBI’s investigation of the Clinton Foundation.
Then there is James Comey, another former FBI head, who confirmed McCabe had lied. He simply claimed on 245 occasions to House investigators and members that he either had no memory or had no knowledge, when asked under oath to explain some of the wrongdoing of the FBI during his directorship. Remember, Comey and the FBI signed off on the authenticity of Steele document material to obtain a FISA warrant, when they knew it was unreliable and Steele was not credible. Comey also likely leaked to the media a confidential memo officially memorializing a private conversation with the president of the United States.
Should we include yet another former FBI director? Robert Mueller swore under oath to Congress that he knew little about Fusion GPS (“I’m not familiar with that”) and more or less had ignored the Steele dossier. (“It’s not my purview.”) Mueller’s claims cannot be true because revelations about both were the very catalysts that prompted his own special counsel appointment.
Will the Santos prosecutors go after Anthony Fauci, the recently retired head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases?
Fauci seemingly lied under oath to the Senate when he preposterously claimed the money he channeled through a third party to the Wuhan virology lab did not entail support for gain-of-function virology research. (“The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”) Many virologists were aghast at Fauci’s claims, since they knew gain-of-function research conducted in China—the point being to skirt U.S. laws—was precisely what the U.S.-subsidized researchers in China were doing.
The Bidens
Prosecutors are currently looking at the various shenanigans of Hunter Biden, whose lies may even be a match for those of George Santos. Joe Biden’s son apparently lied on his firearms background check affidavit when applying for a handgun purchase—so far, with impunity.
When asked point blank on national television whether his lost laptop was his own—he had signed a receipt for it at the repair shop—Biden refused to give a yes or no answer.
Hunter Biden has apparently de facto lied for years when he purportedly did not report either his entire income or his real business expenses accurately, or that he was the father of a child he conceived with an ex-stripper in Arkansas.
If Hunter’s lies do not match the number of Santos’ prevarications, his were at least far more significant. His lie that the laptop was not his prompted current Secretary of State Antony Blinken, a former top Biden 2020 campaign aide, to call up Mike Morell, former interim CIA director. Morell’s mission was to round up as many intelligence authorities as he could to lie on the eve of a presidential election that the laptop had “all the hallmarks” of “Russian disinformation.” He found 51, including himself. Apparently, some active members of the CIA pitched in as well to lend the letter additional authenticity.
Note that Morell swears Blinken called him to solicit signers of the bogus letter, while Blinken claims he did not. So either the current secretary of state or the former interim director of the CIA is lying—or they both are. Again, among the first to sign the fraudulent intelligence letter were Brennan and Clapper. They apparently had earned a reputation as team players, given that both men had been willing to lie under oath to Congress. Misleading the nation again about the laptop to aid Joe Biden’s campaign was small potatoes.
Biden, on spec, promulgated the lie when he said in his second debate with Trump, “There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant. Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it, except his good friend Rudy Giuliani.”
A subsequent poll suggested the Bidens’ concocted laptop lies may have influenced voters to side with Biden in the election. If true, that was a lie that should be of far more interest to current federal prosecutors than Santos’ crazy fairy tales.
The Lies of the “Big Guy”
So we come to the greatest prevaricator of all.
Joe Biden flat-out lied on numerous occasions, such as when he claimed that he never discussed the family shake-down business with Hunter Biden.
Joe Biden, in fact, turns up on the laptop as someone deeply connected to Hunter Biden’s quid pro quo companies (“10 [percent] for the Big Guy”). Tony Bobulinksi, a former business associate of Hunter’s, has sworn that Joe and his brother Jim Biden were deeply involved in their foreign leveraging efforts.
A photo shows Joe Biden with Hunter’s “business” associates. Will the current Santos prosecutors turn their attention to the Oval Office occupant’s financial records to determine whether his lavish private homes and lifestyle were viable under his reported stated income?
Biden lied to Americans dozens of times to get elected. The tragic death of his wife in a car accident was not due to the drunkenness and fault of a truck driver. That was a horrific smear designed to shift blame onto an innocent man and gain sympathy for himself.
He lied that his son, Beau, died while serving in Iraq.
Biden dropped out of the 1988 presidential race after he was caught lying about his college records and plagiarizing a speech from a British politician.
So we know that in the past, Joe Biden’s lies have left a mark on history in a fashion that Santos’ never will.
When Biden prefaces his whoppers with “No joke!” or “This is the God’s honest truth!” and especially when he swears, “My word as a Biden!” then it is a fair bet that he is lying.
When Biden entered office, he lied about the number of Americans previously vaccinated under the Trump Administration and preposterously claimed there had been no COVID vaccine available.
He lied that his loan forgiveness amnesty passed Congress by two votes. In fact, Biden simply declared amnesty by fiat and never submitted the request to Congress at all.
He repeatedly lies that billionaires pay only three percent of their income in taxes on average. He lies about minor details, from giving his Uncle Frank a purple heart to matters of national concern, such as the price of gas when he entered office. It was most certainly not $5 a gallon!
Biden constantly lies about his résumé. He was never a long-haul truck driver. Nor was he a star athlete almost headed for the Naval Academy on a sports scholarship if only Dallas Cowboys legend Roger Staubach had not beat him out. “I was appointed to the academy in 1965 by a senator who I was running against in 1972. I didn’t come to the academy because I wanted to be a football star. And you had a guy named Staubach and Bellino here. So I went to Delaware.”
His house was never almost destroyed by a fire. He was never raised “politically” as a Puerto Rican. Biden never pinned the Silver Star on a Navy Afghanistan war hero for bringing back the body of a fellow soldier from a deep ravine. He was never arrested, either in South Africa or in Atlanta, for demonstrating on behalf of civil rights.
No foreign leader can believe Biden. He never traveled 17,000 miles with Chinese President Xi Jinping. He lied about his own Amtrak travel. He lied about his record on inflation and economic growth. He lied about upping Social Security payments. (It was a larger-than-usual automatic cost-of-living increase spurred by his inflationary policies.) He lied about the nature of the Trump tax cuts.
Biden keeps lying that the southern border is “secure” even as nearly 2 million people have crossed illegally on his watch and tens of thousands more are massed to enter the country as Title 42 restrictions are lifted.
He insists that five police officers died at the hands of protestors on January 6, 2021. In truth, the one person we know for certain who died violently that day was Ashli Babbitt, an unarmed protester who was shot and killed by a Capitol Police lieutenant with a checkered record, whose identity was suppressed for months while Babbitt’s past was sullied by the press.
Biden’s defenders hint that either he is cognitively compromised and thus not responsible—as if he has told the truth the last 40 years when he was hale!—or his lies are mere “exaggerations” unlike the “lies” of Trump—as if lying about the death of one’s spouse or son or school record or resume or major legislation or his presidency is a mere “exaggeration.”
As a general rule, since 2015, if any federal bureaucrat or elected official lied in service of opposing Donald Trump, he was exempted from consequences. If not, he was properly held responsible for his lying. So the more that the fake Steele dossier, the Russian collusion hoax, and the Russian disinformation laptop lie warped the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections, the more the promulgators of those falsehoods never faced any consequences for their untruths.
So, yes, let federal prosecutors go after the lying George Santos to set a precedent that the lying of government officials has consequences.
But in the great scheme of lying things, Santos is a prevaricating minnow who was snagged to great acclaim because the lying sharks swim and circle with impunity.
This article originally appeared at AmGreatness.com.
What Santos did was small potatoes when compared to the all of the residents of the Deep state mentioned in this article
I don’t see why you all have a problem with this. You worship Trump like a god but he lies 25 hours a day and his lies almost overthrew the government in an act of treason. Clean up your own house before you start damning others.
Please cite these alleged “lies” you write of.
Too many to count. At that CNN town hall he didn’t utter a single word of truth the whole time. But the biggest and most obvious is the stolen election lie. He knows perfectly well that he lost and he’s slithering around Mar a Lago laughing at the suckers who believe him.
Example please.
“Too many to count”. Which means you got nothing except your pet peeve…J6.
Um, I just gave you the biggest of all: The treasonous stolen election lie. But, of course, you’re a MAGA catamite, so you’re one of the suckers he got to believe it.
You only have to look at Basement Biden’s ridiculous vote count to know there was fraud not withstanding the tsunami of available evidence that has surfaced since. Why comment on something you are obviously blatantly ignorant on? Warm fuzzy “aren’t I a wonderful, understanding human” do not equate with actual facts!
There is no and never has been any evidence. There’s been a blizzard of various allegations that, when brought before courts of law and other official bodies, have been summarily dismissed as nonsense or worse. Dominion almost ended up owning Fox News because of these lies.
Wait before you respond, because I know what you’re going to say: “IT’S A CONSHPIRACEEEEEE!!!!!”
Trump’s not in office so you can put aside your sick little Trump obsession for now.
The Durham Report exonerates Trump. The whole Russia Collusion thing started with Hillary, because she knew she was going to lose. What happened after that was the real treason. Obama knew. Biden knew. Mueller knew. Comey knew. It’s was a coup attempt by the corrupt Left. They succeeded with Nixon. They tried to get Reagan out as well because of Iran Contra.
It really doesn’t matter what you say or think. You are a silly little Leftist anyway. If you have a problem, take it up with Durham. Otherwise just sit down and STFU. No one cares what you think.
The Durham report was a total bust and you know it. There was reasonable suspicion of collusion, they investigated it, they found there was no collusion. It’s called how people investigate things. Man up and GTF over it.
Ashli Babbitt must be crying down in the ninth circle to see her god-king humiliated yet again.
There was no suspicion whatsoever. It was a hoax.
Put away the pom poms. America lost.
There was certainly suspicion. Putin definitely interfered in the election in Trump’s favor, and there had been enough informal contacts to raise eyebrows. They investigated, turned out not to be true. That’s what investigations DO.
Yeah a real bust. So the same Obama holdover coup plotters are still lying about their roles in this. what surprise. If they weren’t guilty they would still be in government.
I don’t know what planet you get your news from but it doesn’t seem to be U.S. outlets except for the Trump hating ones….or the Guardian. But that’s to be expected considering the dink country you live in.
There never was any reasonable suspicion of collusion. It was always Hillary’s made up dream. I guess that’s why Mueller thew in the towel. I guess that’s why 2 impeachments failed. I guess that’s why the Pelosi uncovered nothing.
It just your sad little talking points about Babbit and the J6ers being traitors, over and over and over again.
Maybe you should get over it because you aren’t going to get what you want. No FBI hail of bullets for you.
You do you, man. I’ll keep myself happy watching the sedition convictions come in.
Marlow:
Keep typing your narrow minded, unsubstantiated tidbits and demonstrating to everyone how you and anyone that thinks like you are stone cold, dead brain sheep.
Your time is coming, “girly-man”!
TDS is now a certifiable pathology.
On January 6, 2017, there was a meeting in the Oval Office to overthrow the incoming government. How concerned are you really?
Prove it or shut up.
It’s on him to prove it.
Well he’s right. He just got the date wrong. It was January 5, 2017, attended by Obama, Biden, Susan Rice, Comey, Brennan and a few others. Rice even did a “cover your butt” memo to memorialize it. Everyone knew about the meeting and the coup they were plotting.
nypost com/2020/05/20/susan-rices-now-infamous-memo-was-blatant-bid-to-cover-obamas-butt/
Oh gee, here’s another link:
www.businessinsider com/susan-rice-lawyer-responds-to-grassley-graham-on-2017-russia-meeting-2018-2?op=1
And another:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/05/09/this-oval-office-meeting-attended-by-obama-and-biden-was-key-to-the-anti-trump-plot-n389501
I know these are all conservative sites. But our corrupt Pravda media wouldn’t cover the meeting. They are part of the coverup doing Biden’s (Obama’s bidding). They were pushing Russia Collusion when they knew there wasn’t any.
It’s all starting to fall apart. Black Mayors in blue cities are starting to complain about all of the illegals being bussed to NY and LA. Crime is up everywhere as Soros Funded DA’s refuse to prosecute black criminals. We even had one , Kim Gardner, resign for failure to do her job.
Well he’s right. He just got the date wrong. It was January 5, 2017, attended by Obama, Biden, Susan Rice, Comey, Brennan and a few others. Rice even did a “cover your butt” memo to memorialize it. Everyone knew about the meeting and the coup they were plotting.
nypost com/2020/05/20/susan-rices-now-infamous-memo-was-blatant-bid-to-cover-obamas-butt/
Oh gee, here’s another link:
www.businessinsider com/susan-rice-lawyer-responds-to-grassley-graham-on-2017-russia-meeting-2018-2?op=1
And another:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/05/09/this-oval-office-meeting-attended-by-obama-and-biden-was-key-to-the-anti-trump-plot-n389501
I know these are all conservative sites. But our corrupt Pravda media wouldn’t cover the meeting. They are part of the coverup doing Biden’s (Obama’s bidding). They were pushing Russia Collusion when they knew there wasn’t any.
Nothing in any of those links indicates a massive conspiracy to overthrow the government–you know, like Trump did.
He’s not concerned at all, about that. If Trump or anybody else committed treason against the USA, marlow would sing their praises and offer a rusty trombone. If he was at the meeting you speak of, he would offer for all there.
“I’ll keep myself happy watching the sedition convictions come in.”
Yes, from the 100% corrupt D.C. Circuit Court. You probably thought that Castro’s 99% re-election was legit. or Sadaam Houssein’s. Or those miraculous kangaroo courts that Stalin had. where the verdict was guaranteed .
So go ahead and enjoy and keep playing the useful idiot for everyone, troll
Whoever holds the treason monkeys accountable is fine with me.
No one here or anywhere worships him “ as. god” but your climate hoax is your pagan religion, And your mutilation of children is your ritual. Obama was clearly and repeatedly called godlike.
Projection is ugly. Troll elsewhere.
I wont even address leftists lies. Not enough space in eternity for that.
I hate to tell you this, but you are a member of an idolatrous cult. I’d compare you to Scientologists but that would be unfair to Scientologists. They’re just a bunch of con artists. You lot actually support treason.
How is it you know so much that isn’t true?
How is it that you can’t speak in anything but vague rhetorical questions?
Yeah, all 75 million of us. Your treason cult accusation/obsession is as stale and idiotic as you are.
We’ve seen it a thousand times over from you and no one is buying it. The downvotes tell the tale.
Troll elsewhere loser. Maybe in your own silly little country.
So, you admit there are only 75 million Trump voters? As opposed to the 800 quadrillion that Sidney Powell claimed?
LOL! I can never get over how absurd and dumb some people are. You must have just finished your schooling indoctrination recently.
LOL! I can never get over how unimaginative some commenters can be!
Everything in those links proves conspiracy, except in your world because you approve of it. You are truly the useful idiot, always believing the party line.
You should replace Cringe Jean Pierre. you have about as much credibility as her, but you are the wrong color and gender.
It proves the opposite. It shows that those gathered were determined to proceed “by the book,” which the investigation did. But sure, it’s a consphiraceeeeee.
You claim 25 hours a day as that is a lie in itself home boy.
If you wish to claim which Politician lies the most then that Award must go to Old Joe and if you think he is doing a great job then I suggest you are mercifully free from the ravages of intelligence as a blind man can see the damage that old fool has done in such a short time.
Trump aint perfect, neither am I, nor you, but he shoots from the Hip, says what he means and means what he says and if you cannot see the difference in the state of the economy under the four years of Trump and then the state its in today then you really are an idiot.
all YOU have to do is view the proceeding so the Karly Lake trial of last week. The proof is there. NOW YOU since you have made the profound statement. LIST the LIES you claim were spoken. We are waiting for your Bolshevik answer. I am NOT accepting anything except FACTUAL data.
Pathological liars.
It’s official.
America is a Banana Republic.
Indeed. Every day it gets more official.
MOB RULE! MOB JUSTICE! They’re laughing since their MOB controls everything thanks to the Chicago Mob Boss for putting his Gangsters to lead all departments and Halls and The House!
“WE” want Jobs not Mobs.”
“WE” want Journalists not Propagandists!
“WE” want The Rule of Law not Mob Rule!
“WE” want Workers not Freeloaders!”
“WE” want Educators not Indoctrinators!”
“WE” want Friend and Family Unions not Political Exclusions!”
“WE” want our Founding Articles not the Rules for Radicals!:
“WE” want all Colors United not Divided!”
From SC 25 What We the People Want.
In his book UNMASKING OBAMA Jack Cashill goes into how—when he was with a private security firm—Brennan purged Obama’s passport records. (Where exactly DID Obama travel abroad when he was at Occidental College??)
The reception by the powers-that-be of Durham’s long awaited report confirms that the country is run by communists and liars who will soon enforce the party line that there is only one truth: theirs.
And notice how news of the Santos indictment was released the same day as the House oversight committee issued its first report on Biden family corruption. ABC, CBS, and NBC combined spent all of zero secods reporting the latter story in their nightly newscasts. “Banana Republic” is too kind a description for what this country has become. As Mr. Hanson has previously written, we are living in “an empire of lies.”
THE WIZARD behind the curtain pulling all the knobs and levers on behalf of Hillary and the Democratic Party is BILL CLINTON who hated Trump more than all combined! He desperately wanted back in the White House so he had to help the incompetent S of S Hillary pretending to be her in negotiations with her foreign counterparts. His email trail, which he said he never used email, had to be destroyed with Bleach and Hammers. He is hiding in the Shadows. How much did he make in a speech in Russia? He wasn’t there to just make a speech full of B S! How much was donated to their Foundation for selling out our Country around the World? With Trump winning, ALL were in fear of them being exposed so they all CONSPIRED in their Coup attempt of a sitting President, which worked!:
Liars have always lied. The difference now is massive cultural shift changing the risk / benefit analysis for lying. Now, there is no risk and the potential benefit is massive. Consequently, reason unchecked by morality favors lying. Biden and his family are prime examples.
We need a return to Christian morality, in which men will tell the truth even to their own hurt (Psalm 15:4). Of course, there will always be liars, but cultural norms should expose and punish them, while exalting the good man whose currency is wisdom and truth.
The new religious morality is the old paganism – cruel and perverse. Will it not live up to its historic deeds and justify the death of many millions for our own “good”?
Why are you on this thread? Your not convincing anyone that your lies are truth. You seem to be a little slow in the thinking department. You related to Fetterman or Feinstein?
“You seem to be a little slow in the thinking department” is an amusing comment from someone who can’t spell “you’re” correctly.
As always you resort to the cheap insult rather than deal with the fact that you actually are a little slow in the thinking department. But the communist traitors are always a little slow. I guess that is why progressivism, socialism and Communism always fail in the end.
I prefer to think of them, as Lenin and Marx purportedly labeled all of you, as the useful idiot that you are.
That’s pretty big talk from a Satanist.
What the Hell do you know of Christianity and Jesus. You are an admitted Atheist who spouts cheap wine communist dogma. You have said that taxes should be raised so that the rich pay even more than they already do. You hate people who worked for a living like me, succeeded, and, unlike you, own property and are comfortable and happy for the most part. You even said “wait until I start on the Dialectic.” You are a miserable little puke.
And yet you are too cowardly to admit who you are. You routinely take the statist side, 100% of the time. You can’t wait to see MAGAs gunned down in a hail of bullets from your beloved completely corrupt FBI. you have summary execution fantasies. You have murder fantasies re: Ashlii Babbit. You actually think her killer deserves a spot on MT. Rushmore along side Washington and Lincoln.
How little you know of America. And why not. You are nothing more than a Brit low rent, name calling moron troll who thinks everyone of us a “treason monkey”. Do you troll for effect or are you as obnoxious and stupid as you appear to be? Fortunately you will never be an American because if you were, your communist ideology would make you a traitor.
Your act is as stale as a corpse.
I know that Jesus and Christianity emphasize things like charity, non-judgment, compassion for both rich and poor, and generally treating human beings decently. They also encourage upstanding personal behavior, such as not lying and committing adultery. This is Christianity 101, is it not?
It seems to me that Trump has violated every single one of those principles, and you love him for it. You are, in other words, in love with a decidedly un-Christian man, and it doesn’t seem to bother you in the least. You’re at best a hypocrite and at worst a heretic.
No that is not what Jesus preached. He really had only one commandment, “That you love one another as you have loved me”.
Everything you mentioned is not Christianity. Not lying or committing adultery is from the 10 Commandments.
You have zero compassion for anyone who does not agree with you. Your hatred is filled with treason monkey expletives, murder fantasies, Che Guevara summary execution fantasies. You are barely human. You are deformed. In short you are a leftist traitor.
Your conclusions about Trump, your main love interest, and my relationship with him are entirely wrong, but coming from a freak like you I’m not surprised.
So you can say any old thing you want about me re: Christianity. I don’t care. I am secure in my faith. You have no faith in anything. you can’t even admit who you are, coward.
Are you actually saying Jesus only preached one thing? That he was perfectly fine with lying and adultery? Even I know that’s not true. No offense, but you seem remarkably ignorant of the faith you profess.
In any event, it’s quite clear that you can call yourself whatever you want, but you are not a Christian, given that you clearly reject everything the Nazarene preached.
Your comment is so hateful and ignorant of Christianity. I do not wrap myself in a mantle of Christianity, but the LORD wraps me in His. Better, I am not wrapped in His mantle, but gathered into His arms and held in the palm of His hand, where no one, not even myself, can dislodge me.
Jesus does not say winners will inherit the earth, but a class of people He describes as “meek,” “humble” and lowly.
Marlow, there is One Who loves you more than you can know or imagine. I pray that God would reveal this to you and that you would stop this perverse hatred that only demeans you and increases your suffering.
Well said K.
I am not capable of that level of forgiveness. On this I think the Jews have it right. an eye for an eye…a tooth for a tooth.
I won’t bother admonishing you, since you seem to worship some kind of satanic god of violence and hate, but you really should know something about Judaism before you rant about it. In Judaism, “an eye for an eye” does not refer to vengeance or retribution. It’s seen as establishing a principle of compensatory justice. In other words, if you put out someone’s eye, you are commensurately punished by a court or pay monetary compensation. You don’t have your eye summarily put out as well.
I admit I am not a Christian or an expert on Christianity. Nonetheless, I grew up in a Christian society and I’m aware of its basic tenets. Please tell me if I’m wrong, but aren’t those things like charity, mercy, compassion, love, and generally treating people decently and acting decently oneself? Is that not what Jesus preached?
It is quite clear that Trump violates every single one of those principles on a regular basis. You seem not to notice, but I agree with you that Jesus said that about those who will inherit the earth. That was my whole point: Trump believes only “winners” should inherit the earth and the meek, humble, and lowly can f- off and die.
Trump, in other words, is an anti-Christian, yet you worship him like a god. You need to ask yourself why.
I don’t need to ask myself why because you order me too. Guess what you are not my boss. You are nothing. Just your “love interest obsession” Trumpy opinions. Which are always formed to fit your warped hate obsessed narrative. Never based in actual reality.
So you are Jewish? Doubt it. You couldn’t admonish me if you tried. I know whereof I speak re: an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. And I don’t have to prove it to you. So you are wrong on that as well. I know plenty of Jews who agree with me. It is a revenge play, not a court decision.
In fact you have never been right about anything. Troll elsewhere. Oh I forgot. American Greatness charges to post now. So I guess you are out of luck. Since you seem to have an unnatural fascination with Trump and conservative websites you can always try The Right Scoop. Plenty of Trump hating RINO Desantis freaks there. You will fit right in that moronic environment.
“I know whereof I speak re: an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.”
Yeah, I really, really doubt that you’ve spent much time studying Talmud.
In any event, you still haven’t explained how you can possibly call yourself a Christian when you reject everything Jesus taught and worship an Orange Gorilla as your god-king.
Part 1: The answer to your first question is yes. Jesus became a man, a Jew in His flesh and taught “He hath shown thee, O man, what is good: and what doth the Lord require of thee but to do justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?” Micah 6:8. Jesus did not abolish the Law, but came to fulfill it as it is impossible for us to do so with perfect righteousness- the requirement for fellowship with Perfect Holiness.
We Christians also acknowledge that Jesus is Messiah AND the LORD veiled in flesh. After fulfilling the law in perfect righteousness He offered Himself as a perfect sacrifice for sin, once and for all. He is now King over all His creation. Israel rejected God as King. See 1 Samuel 8:7. God will be King over Israel and all the earth and will not share His glory with another. This is how the blessing of Abraham comes to all the earth.
I acknowledge that Trump is an imperfect man. Every man born of woman is imperfect with one exception – Yeshua Hamashiach. See Psalm 14: 1 – 3; Psalm 53: 1-6; Romans 3: 9 – 18. If perfection were required to run for office, even George Washington would fail. But God uses us imperfect people – like Moses and like David the son of Jesse.
Trump is a very good statesman. He is not a philosopher or theologian. I voted for him for that reason. Some of his decisions were wrong, and I acknowledge that also. I do not worship him or any man. But Trump is motivated by love of country and a desire to serve. His life as president is not nearly as pleasant, I am sure, as his life as a private citizen.
You are right about the lex taliones, but I think Intrepid was thinking of the very severe laws under which ancient Israel lived. I understand Judaism and Christianity as sharing much, but Judaism is a covenant relationship given with the Law. Christianity is a creedal relationship given by Christ Who fulfills the law on our behalf. This is a massive oversimplification, but I think it is true.
You aren’t an expert on anything. Just a dumb party line mindless angry leftist who said: “Whoever holds the treason monkeys accountable is fine with me.”
So in your world it really doesn’t matter if the courts, the DA and the judge is corrupt. So long as you get your man. How about Roland Freisler? Is he OK with you as long as he is prosecuting Trump. You will have to look him up, Mr. Yes Man. Mr. Toadie. Mr. Hack. Mr. Lackey.
Does thinking about Trump give you a woody? Almost as much as you think about summary executions and FBI hails of bullets? For someone who singularly focuses on him I think you are in actually love with him.
I don’t think Mossad agents are sitting around reading the Talmud when they go out on missions. They go out on missions to kill the enemy. I don’t think the IDF is sitting around arguing about the vagaries of the Talmud. Their mission is to kill the enemy.
“Are you actually saying Jesus only preached one thing?” Stupid loaded gotcha question, not worthy of a response. Whenever you get into a religious discussion you mock God, because you are a lowlife atheist. What you know of Christianity or Judaism couldn’t fit on a pin head…….pinhead.
“but you are not a Christian, given that you clearly reject everything the Nazarene preached.” It’s amazing the uninformed conclusions you routinely come to by pronouncing summarily guilty all who don’t fit into your ignorance box, Roland.
As for me, I am so glad you don’t live in this country with the ability to infect us more than we are already infected by Leftist scum. In the larger scheme of things you will always be on the outside looking in with your Trump attraction.
So what other cries is Biden committing behind our backs we would never find out if we depended upon the M.S. Media
The interests of the Intel agencies are not aligned with the interests of the American people.
D. Talbot, “The devils Chessboard”! Very informative.
Great article VDH! Facts do matter.
To my understanding the problem is that communists, Maoist’s, and others who want to destroy our Republic do not follow the rules and they lie in order to reach the goal of taking our great country down! Sadly many of them occupy government positions and support each other as VDH reveals. Is this correct? Communism has always been in the US but the breakdown of family has left many adrift from our core values (religious faith) and vulnerable to find a cause they can “worship”.
I have faith and Hope in God Almighty and these wicked people will be held to account by Him ultimately, as we all will! If you believe this too continue to pray daily for our country to be sparred of this takeover! Hopefully it’s not too late but miracles can happen if people turn to Him humbly and with contrite hearts for help and to save our precious country!
It’s exhausting to hear this “na-na you too” boring dialogue that liberals constantly employ. The facts by VDH could not be clearer. You are so boring and unoriginal. Makes one appreciate critical thinking that is lacking in their vocabulary.
Kynarion — That’s all very interesting, but it doesn’t answer my question. Even if you don’t believe any of the things you write about the Nazarene–and I don’t–it’s self-evident that, at least according to the gospels, he preached some very specific values. It seems equally self-evident that Trump violates EVERY SINGLE ONE of those values on a regular basis, and indeed embraces an ideology that is not just a violation of Jesus’ message its ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE.
Your response to this is that Trump is “imperfect.” Well, obviously. In my view, the Nazarene was also quite imperfect, as is any human being who claims to be the messiah or divine. However, imperfection is not the issue. The issue is that Trump is not just imperfect, but outright ANTI-CHRISTIAN in everything he believes, says, and does. Yet you support him. In my view, you need to think about why.
Marlow, You and I disagree, and we can discuss those disagreements if you like, but only if you have inclination. I enjoy most those discussions with those who disagree with me because I learn from them or further solidify my own thinking. Truth is paramount for me.
That being said, I do not find imperfection in Christ. His enemies that sought to crucify Him (because Jesus was a threat to their power) could find NO CAUSE, no sin to use against Him. Jesus specifically challenged them in John 8: 46- 59. If you read that passage you will see the intense conflict between Jesus and His enemies and Jesus’ challenge to convict Him of any sin. Jesus claims to be greater than Abraham (v. 56) and also identifies Himself as One with the great I AM (v. 58).
So, if your inclination is to discuss rationally, I will be happy to engage. The topic will be the imperfection of Jesus. I think we agree on Trump’s imperfection. Or, you can choose the topic of your choice. I promise to treat you with respect, but I love to tear into issues and you will find me ready to admit when I am wrong. And I care nothing about what most people think of me. It is a peaceful place I maintain for myself.
I’m not in the least interested in arguing the imperfection of Jesus. You believe he was god and I don’t. There is no possible way to bridge that gap. It would be a completely pointless argument.
What I am interested in is the question I’ve been asking this entire time and you refuse to answer: How, as a Christian, can you so fervently support a man who rejects Christian values so violently in both word and deed?
I do not see that Trump rejects Christian values at all, violently or otherwise. You imagine our values are all namby-pamby-turn-the-other-cheek. They are not.
As for your claim that anyone who claims to be Messiah or God is disqualified by the assertion, you must face the logical proposition that Jesus is either a liar, a lunatic or Lord.
If God is the King of Israel, and indeed of all the heavens and the earth, and allowed Himself to be rejected by Israel, does it not stand to reason that this acquiescence on His part will not continue indefinitely? God alone is God. He will not share His glory with any other.
Let’s say God does acquiesce. That means a sinful man will be Messiah. And that Messiah will rule forever in righteousness and peace. Nope. That requires perfection and immortality.
I am amused when those in America talk and write about corruption in other countries, when America is on the same level as those countries.
Intrepid — You seem to confuse Judaism with the defense policies of the State of Israel. I was referring to how Jewish tradition has interpreted the “eye for an eye” concept. I think it’s fairly obvious they’re two different things.
You’re still dodging the question: Since Jesus preached love, charity, compassion and the like, how can you support Trump–who rejects all those values–and claim to be a Christian?
Marlow, you appear to have an idea of Jesus as a flat character composed entirely of meekness and mildness. Jesus was a very tough and uncompromising Person who made a whip and drove money changers out of the Temple in His zeal for it See Psalm 69:9 and Matthew 21. He had very harsh words for the Jewish and Gentile leadership of that day.
Being also the LORD incarnate, the harshest words of the Old Testament are His, including Number 14: 29-31.
If you’re trying to claim that Jesus was basically just like Donald Trump, then I have been woefully misinformed about Jesus. If that is the case, then the most fundamental Christian values would be selfishness, greed, lying, lust for power, fornication, and total indifference to the suffering of other human beings.
If that is in fact the basic message of Christianity, then I stand corrected.
You have not put forth any specifics about Trump or Jesus (except a universal disqualifier of anyone claiming deity or messiah status).
People are multi-faceted. So is Christianity. The Christian man or woman can be a ruthless killer and still be righteous. Christians can seek wealth and comfort and still be righteous (so long as they are not mastered by the love of money and ease). Christians can speak harsh truth and are at times required to do so. Love alone sometimes requires toughness of speech and action, as any parent knows.
If your knowledge of Christianity is that we are either namby pamby turn-the-other-cheek types or greedy lusty fornicators, then you are dealing with cardboard cutouts without substance. We make no claim to perfection or even righteousness, but we want these things and endeavor to strengthen in these attributes as our days increase. We love, fear and serve One Whose righteousness is joined with infinite holiness and justice. We know we can by no means reach that required standard in our sinful weaknesses, but we trust that God has provided the ONLY way to reconcile us to Himself in the Person and work of our Lord, Jesus Christ. He is our righteousness. It is His gift to us. We adore Him.
And Marlow, He knows you better than you know yourself and loves you. He would stretch out His arms upon the cross for you if you were the only one, because your name is graven upon his heart.
“The Christian man or woman can be a ruthless killer and still be righteous.”
I think I’m beginning to understand you now. Thank you for clarifying. If what you say is correct, then it’s one of the best condemnations of Christianity I’ve ever read. Fortunately, I think it is in all likelihood inaccurate. Frankly, it seems to me that you believe in some kind of pagan war god and call it Christ.
I forgot to give examples to keep you from resorting back to your erroneous assumptions. Apologies. Moses was a murderer. Joshua was a murderer. Phinehas was a murderer whose righteous slaying of an Israelite man and Moabite woman was rewarded with an eternal priesthood. See Numbers 25.
Samuel was a murderer. The Apostle Paul, if not a murderer, was a willing and approving accessory to it. Many members of the military became Christians – did they not take the lives of the enemies of their country?
There is a time to kill according to Ecclesiastes 3.
These are just a few examples off the top of my head. Hopefully it will dislodge you from your erroneous presuppositions and allow you to engage with Christianity by its own assertions, and not the conclusions you gleaned from living in a quasi-Christian culture in your youth.
The point you’re making seems to be that people can be completely amoral and commit horrific atrocities, but still be worthy of worship in the way you worship Jesus and Trump.
If that’s your Christianity, then fine. I would only note that it is pure nihilism. Most of the Christians I have met in my life would tend to disagree with you on these matters, but as a Jew, my interest in that is limited.
I do understand your point of view now, however. Trump’s values, such as they are, do indeed comport with your understanding of Christianity. It’s a monstrous understanding, but it’s yours.
No Marlow. You are the one who invents the idea that I think Trump’s values and Christian values are the same. You are making me into a cardboard cutout. People have a LOT more nuance than that. I never said and certainly never thought Trump exemplified Christian values.
It is as though you bring your opinion out of almost nothing (since I said nothing beyond that I think Trump is a good statesman) and make MANY assumptions to get to a tenuous belief and assertion. Like this:
1. Kynarion likes Trump. 2. Kynarion is a Christian. 3. Therefore, Kynarion thinks Trump embodies Christian values and is representative of them.
Can you identify the logical problems with that progression? I like and admire many people who are not Christian. Does that make me hypocritical? Of course not. Many examples abound on this site. I like and admire the Jewish people. I know some Jews whom I do not like. This does not mean I fail to like and admire the Jewish people. Those unlikeable Jews do not represent the Jewish people to me, nor do they detract from my affection and admiration.
God bless you Marlow. I enjoy interacting with you, but I get the sense it is not a mutual pleasure. I am sorry for any offense I may have given you. It was not intentional.
You’ll never get the truth from the Deep state. They live to fulfill their dream of the One World Government, np matter what the cost, and the cost will be great to the country. Never act like these people who beget evil and continually plot evil.
Public officials & leaders can do far more damage to the nation & society than most. It is only logical & common sense that they must be held to a high standard of behavior. There are entirely too many citizens, who are unable or unwilling to fact check their lies, to allow them to use their public platform to spread lies & disinformation.
A society or nation needs to hold its leaders & potential leaders to account when they lie. To allow liars & manipulators to rule is suicidal. These people must be able to substantiate their claims with proof, or admit that they have no proof & their declarations are only unsubstantiated opinions (even when they are obviously convenient propaganda). It is what needs to be done to sustain a healthy & strong nation. excusing politicians who lie is idiotic.
As I asked elsewhere, are you saying the values of Christianity are lying, greed, hate, and total indifference to the well-being of one’s fellow human beings? Those are Trump’s values and his only values. They certainly aren’t namby-pamby, but if true, I have been grossly misinformed as to the nature of Christianity.
I said I had no interest in discussing the imperfection of Jesus, but you pushed the issue, so:
If I had to choose between liar, lunatic or lord, then the answer is quite logical. Presuming Jesus actually said anything attributed to him by the gospels–which is a VERY debatable proposition–then I will give him the benefit of the doubt in terms of whether he was a liar or not. He seems not to have attempted to grab anything for himself, so I will grant he was not a simple con artist like Trump.
Therefore, I would have to opt for lunatic, though I don’t like the word. If he indeed said he was both the messiah and God, then he was unquestionably mentally ill. That doesn’t make him a bad person, in my opinion, but the conclusion is inescapable.
Kynarion — You’re missing my point. I did not say “1. Kynarion likes Trump. 2. Kynarion is a Christian. 3. Therefore, Kynarion thinks Trump embodies Christian values and is representative of them.”
I am saying: 1. Kynarion is a fervent Christian who says things like “We need a return to Christian morality, in which men will tell the truth even to their own hurt.” 2. Kynarion loves Trump. 3. Trump is an anti-Christian who rejects all Christian values and morality and practices the exact opposite of them, including pathological lying. 4, Kynarion has a lot of thinking to do.”