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The Supreme Court didn’t dig into the weeds of the entire insurrection debate, but one obvious issue with the various efforts to remove Trump from the ballot in various states was that insurrection had been left entirely to Democrat state officials to define. That kind of nonsense however won’t fly in an actual legislative process.
Now that the Supreme Court blocked state officials from announcing that Trump can’t be on the ballot because he’s an “insurrectionist”, House members are now trying to play the same game.
Congress will have to try and act,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, told Axios.
What he’s saying: Raskin, a former member of the Jan. 6 select committee, said he is already crafting the bill, telling Axios, “I’m working on it — today.”
Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment.
“We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court’s decision,” Raskin said.
Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an “insurrection” and that those involved “engaged in insurrection.”
For now, in a GOP House, the bill is mostly virtue signaling, but tellingly Raskin is not so much trying to define insurrection as trying to define J6 as an insurrection. It’s the typical end run around the process of defining the thing because otherwise Democrat BLMers might fall afoul of it.
The Raskin bill conveniently defines J6 as an insurrection and carefully defines the term so as to specifically apply it to Trump. It does not however define what an insurrection is making the whole exercise into a bill that specifically exists to block a particular candidate from being able to take office on grounds that would be unlikely to apply to his own party. Does that raise some major banana republic issues? Obviously.
Still, has Raskin considered what kind of can of worms he’s opening here?
“An individual described in this subsection is an individual who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or has given aid or comfort to the enemies of the United States.”
Forget BLM for a moment. Giving aid or comfort to America’s enemies would block nearly every Democrat from taking or holding office. Pass a resolution declaring that funding Iran or any other terror group was an example of providing aid or comfort to America’s enemies and the party can get started.
Cheryl Barker says
Demonrats change the definition of words and create new buzzwords all the time: vaccine, woke, transexual, disinformation, racist, etc. ad nauseum. Why not change the meaning of “insurreaction?”
internalexile says
What was the quote from Alice in Wonderland–“Words mean exactly what I intend them to mean, nothing more, nothing less”?
Kynarion Hellenis says
I had forgotten the Alice in Wonderland quote! So I looked it up and found this provocative context:
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”
Domenic Pepe says
Here’s another misuse of the US Constitution:
The First Amendment states that …
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”
Islam is a religion.
The Islamic Quran, the “Bible” of Islam commands all followers of Islam to kill/murder Jews and other non-believers of Islam.
Therefore, Moslems who practice Islam, and “freely exercise their religion” by killing/murdering Jews and other non-believers, cannot be prosecuted for murder because the First Amendment of the US Constitution prohibits doing so.
Therefore, Moslems are free to kill/murder Jews and other non-believers because they are commanded to do so by Islam itself.
If Islam is not a religion, which it is not …. Islam is a depraved psychopathic murderous cult ….,
then Islam and Moslems can be dealt with properly for the horrific crimes they commit.
Depraved psychopathic murderous Islam has been a scourge on humanity for 1400 years.
Enough already..
steven says
Rat face Raskin, and the hideously homely Wasserman-Schultz are scourges that exist among our tribe, in great numbers, unfortunately. Anti-Semitism doesn’t exist in a vacuum The number of Jews in the Biden (Obama 2.0) regime is the elephant in the room, and it doesn’t go unnoticed. Very unfortunate.
Mickorn says
“Rat face Raskin”? Yeah, those anti-Semites are really horrible, aren’t they?
Domenic Pepe says
Expect many more laws …. “Bills of Attainder”….. written explicitly against individuals that the depraved
psychopathic woke leftist democrats decide to destroy.
If this lawless behavior by the leftist democrat ruling class is not immediately crushed ….
God help America.
Ginger Li says
It’s like the fascists writing legislation declaring that only they will be allowed to define what a duck is – and only what they call a duck will be allowed to fly. All not so defined will not be allowed to fly. It’s too bad we have to lend them the language so they can distort it for their own power grabbing purposes.
I’ve got it – use their own methods to define them as waste – and then dispose of them.
NAVY ET1 says
How about attempting to permanently change America’s demographics with a southern border that appears only on maps? Could that be considered an “insurrection”?
Without hesitation and unequivocally, the answer is YES. So, let that durag-wearing-rat-faced Raskin craft all the bills he wants. Turnabout is fair play and Karma is a mother.
P.S.~ I’d like to take this opportunity to remind Rat Face Raskin and all the leftists media pundits who lost their collective minds yesterday at this “foul decision made by a Republican court” that it was a 9-0 unanimous decision, and while your tears were ultimately delicious, Sotomayor, Kagan and Jackson came to the same conclusion. Sure, they crafted a CYA response after…but that didn’t change their vote now, did it? Please, cry more.
Domenic Pepe says
I need to check this in my calculus book …
Nine votes to Zero votes … ?
Is that a Majority ?
I think I need to ask somebody who has a B.S., and M.A., and Ph.D. in Mathematics from Harvard
University, and Post doctoral research at M.I.T. in order to understand what 9 to 0 means..
Maybe one thousand dollar per hour Mathematical Consultant can work on this problem.
Chaya says
At Harvard they all plagiarized though
Algorithmic Analyst says
Opening a can of worms is right. That was kinda why I mentioned the proscriptions of Marius and Sulla, in reference to the Democrat proscription against Trump.
p38ace says
Amen, I have reminded friends of mine who are admirers of Julius Caesar that Sulla and Marius was the first civil war and brought down the republic.
MLB says
A close and careful examination of the Constitutional dimensions and the jurisprudence related to Bills of Attainder, particularly, including with respect to both Article 1 Section 9 and Article 1 Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution. is warranted.
Moreover, the “progressive” left very successfully has commandeered the lexicon, which here prompts reflection on :Lewis Carroll and his Through the Looking Glass, Chapter 6, from which:
Alex says
Give it up libs….
Why don’t they just leave Trump be and let him run…?
But they are not..and KNOW FULL WELL that in an honest election Trump will blow this out of the water.If they are so confident of Joes’ ability to win, then let it be.
They fear him…the question is WHY?
I think we all know that Trump know full well where all the ‘bodies’ are buried.
Trump will win by an historical margin…..IF the dems don’t cheat again.🙂🙂🙂
Spirit of San Jacinto says
I have a feeling this election will make 2020 look like Tidly Winks at a Friars’ convention. I don’t have a good feeling about this November.
CowboyUp says
I think what scared and scares dems and rinos is Trump was a DC outsider, with no political background, that they obviously had nothing on, and they were and are afraid he will derail their DC gravy train.
Forearmed says
Oooo I can hardly wait for our Second Civil War to start. because every politician who tried to screw over Trump will be targeted for prison, you know just like the J-6 committee of psychopaths. who made examples of hundreds who entered the capital when the whole thing was a setup. Ray Eps will be one of the first to be addressed about his participation.
IE: Every single DemonRat had better watch their ass because they are all complicit in trying to destroy America by following the criminal in the White House whose party along with the CIA stole the 2020 election figuring they could “Fundamentally Change America” at the behest of the Criminal Elite who will have slaves to grow their gardens.
Now is the time to fight back my friends, because if we don’t the DemonRats will steal another election and thus destroy America. Socialists deserve to be shot. Are you one???
LumpyJones says
Consider …
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/03/05/theres-only-one-terrifying-reason-for-a-woke-indoctrinated-military-and-this-is-it-n4927014
Paul says
This country needs to split up the democrat states can have their nation and conservative states their nation ,no war each will be glad to get rid of the other and will see which one succeeds. Only one will succeed.
Greg says
So the Democ-rats are going to bring down Trump (The Roadrunner) with an “insurrection” bill. Maybe they should mail-order one from Wile E. Coyote of the ACME legislation company. What will be Trump’s response? “Beep Beep!”
MuggsSpongedice says
The ville deomoncraps and rinos are fomenting Revolution Duex! Let my people go – may a plague be upon their houses until they know they are messing with YHVH’S choice President Donald J. Trump and those who are honest, righteous with integrity. It is fine for them to run demonically amok and take all those who have no clue and no desire to learn….these people will perish and certainly are in jeopardy of not passing JUDGEMENT.
RS says
The Democrats are making their own laws now, never mind the ones on the books. The power grabbers make themselves the law.
RAM says
How low can they go?
Angel Jacob says
Protesting the voter fraud is not insurrection.
DipChip says
The first law to be passed in Jan 25 after Trump wins, and both houses of Congress are controlled by Republicans; is to pass a Federal Law requiring that no state shall have the ability to remove any Presidential candidate from the ballot.
Secondly I doubt that Ratkin’s idea of a Presidential candidates removal law would be constitutional.
Bryan says
Hamas is a designated terrorist organization by the US.
1) Biden is airdropping supplies to Hamas.
2) Many US Senators (including GOPe) voted to send billions to Hamas.
Chief Mac says
Let’s charge all Dumbacraps with insurrection for destroying the economy and borders of the United States
SPURWING PLOVER says
We need a big Conservative Revolution to wash away all those Democrats clean out of America
glpage says
Why don’t the Democrats just admit that what they want is to be able to approve who the Republicans nominate? Which boils down to one party rule and is a form of insurrection.
SkippingDog says
If Biden’s supporters, or those of another Democratic candidate, ever forcibly break into the Capitol building specifically to prevent the Vice President from performing his Constitutional function of presiding over the counting of electors, they should also be barred from office under the 14th Amendment.
The Supreme Court also ruled that states CAN apply the 14th Amendment exclusion from office for all state officers. Presidential electors are state officers, not federal officials. Every elector involved should be barred from office.
Funny says
How can they use the 14th Amendment when that amendment is unlawful to begin with back in the 19th century? Without going into a lot details to show why that Amendment is illegal, I will point out just one issue.. The vote in the House of Representatives was short of the required number of votes needed to pass and be sent on to the Senate for a vote. The Speaker of House said it pass even though it was short of the required number of votes needed. There was so much corruption at that time in American history.
There are a couple of Amendments added to the U.S. Constitution that are illegal. Hey, with so much corruption going on in America over the last 200 years, why would anyone expect the U.S. government to change now.
Deguello says
Would be a “Bill of Attainder” specifically barred under the Constitution.
UltraMAGAtron says
#ENDTheDemoNcratParty (the original party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow laws, continued modern racism and new slavery methods) – F A C T S
#WakeUp
#WalkAway
#Hispanics4TRUERepublicans 🇺🇸 (we ARE going to change the narrative, just look at our current polling)
VOTE A STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN TICKET IN 2024 for regained Rule of Law!
A Republican majority is required to do so.
*I did NOT say vote for a RINO
SPURWING PLOVER says
RED Remove Every Democrat vote the Jackass Party into Extinction like the Whigs
Alex says
The question is: WHY do they fear this man so much?🤔
THe reason, as I see it….he was friends with many liberals back in the day…he KNOWS where all the bad stuff is…and who did what to whom.
He can and will, destroy the democrat party……
Watch as he does it….
Onzeur Trante says
Who knows what the Leftist communist Democrats will do next? One thing is for certain. They are not going to allow Trump to be elected or step foot in the WH if he is. Rough waters are still ahead.
CowboyUp says
Keeping Trump off the ballot would require 2/3 of both the House and Senate to agree, and that ain’t happening.