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The scale of the Hamas attacks during the High Holy Days War was far beyond what anyone expected. While Hamas has a lot of people, the number of trained front-line combat-ready Jihadists who could operate at that level is far smaller. And Israel would have had eyes on a lot of them. The full picture is still being assembled but it seems likely that the attack drew on Jihadists beyond those of just Hamas.
Here’s one piece of evidence.
A Telegram channel called South First Responders, which has been distributing shocking footage from scenes on kibbutzim and other areas devastated in Saturday’s attack, claims that soldiers found an flag of the Islamic State terror group on the vest of a terrorist killed during an assault on Kibbutz Sufa, near the Gaza border.
The picture’s authenticity cannot be immediately confirmed.
The flag does appear to be the form of the Islamic battle flag used by ISIS. Because of the popularity of ISIS, a lot of Jihadists have adopted it. ISIS has an affiliate in the Sinai. But it also has a presence in Gaza.
When we talk about Hamas or any Islamic terrorist group as if it were a single whole, it’s often misleading. We’re really looking at a global Jihadist movement that is both less and more than the sum of its parts, committed to a single vision, but made up of smaller militia groups and often linked to various families, clans and tribal operations.
It is likely that the Hamas assault drew on Jihadists beyond Gaza. We know Iran was involved, but it’s starting to look like a full spectrum of Jihadists were as well.
Ugly Sid says
I recommend restarting the Crusades and presenting NATO with honest work.
Ugly Sid says
My reputation as domestic terrorist requires moderation
Kasandra says
Whether there were people unaffiliated with Hamas but who were members of ISIS is immaterial. I doubt that either has membership cards and secret decoder rings. It all comes down to the same thing – radical Islam.
Jeff Bargholz says
Radical islam? You mean ordinary islam.
Una Salus says
They’re using ISIS tactics whoever they are. FUD is coming in fast. Already P J Watson is repeating unsubstantiated Gaza claims that Shani Loukis is alive. Even if this is not just a sick Hamas joke aimed at her mother which I strongly suspect it doesn’t alter the landscape in any way. Hamas murdered everybody else. I hope she’s alive I just don’t trust in hope.
Obviously Hamas still has hostages.
Next he ties this into Israel’s shut down of electricity and water. This is what to expect from these guys. They’ve never been out of their bubble.
Jeff Bargholz says
Israel should never have provided those animals utilities in the first place.
Una Salus says
Egypt and Jordan don’t want them and Israel is a decent country.
Algorithmic Analyst says
Thanks Jeff. I told them that for many years 🙂
Not that all my advice is good. I am constantly reminded of mistaken advice I gave in the past.
Jeff Bargholz says
Ah, we all give bad advice sometimes. But your advice to withhold free utilities from murderous animals was sound. WTF? That’s dumber than if America provided utilities to Mexico and its lovely cartels.
Gaza needs to be depopulated forcibly but I don’t see that happening, As long as the al aksa mosque squats on the Temple Mount like a canker, Israelis are in submission to the paleosimians.
CowboyUp says
She’s not alive. The bullet hole on the lower right back of her head was pretty clear, as were the the dislocated knees and elbows. I don’t hold out much hope for the ones they haven’t killed.
One thing I would do, if they broadcast the execution of a hostage, I’d pull at least a hundred of the terrorist prisoners with blood on their hands, and publicly execute them. Heck, terrorists get thousands of theirs back for one or two Israeli soldiers, that can go two ways.
How many terrorists is Israel holding? That could go very wrong for the terrorists, if it’s more than five thousand.
Cat says
The sad truth is if we or `israel or any “Western” nation committed horrors back, some of this might stop. Its not our way but it is a way that might work. I don’t think we have tried to show strength enough, whatever the method. We are too busy virtue signaling for the leftwing media. .
If you show a psychopath that you’re scarier than he is he genuflects. In very small ways, I have done this and it works.
Maybe we could even fake it but display it as real. IDK.
Jeff Bargholz says
America did that in WWII but those days are long over. We’ve become collectively weak and our government is flat out cowardly and evil.
Algorithmic Analyst says
The thing that most frightened African warriors in the 1800s was that after they were killed in battle, cannibals would eat their body parts So the warriors wouldn’t fight if that was a possibility
Might try that against the terrorists Feed their body parts to pigs or cannibals. Apparently there are still a lot of cannibals in Africa and other parts of the world.
CowboyUp says
For jihadis, getting dumped headfirst alive into the maintenance hatch of the septic tank on a hog farm to spend eternity might give them second thoughts. The methane will suffocate them quickly, and they are big. My uncle’s is about half an acre.
That human compatible blood plasma from genetically modified pigs might be useful in making them talk. Once transfused, they can’t be buried in a muslim cemetery, so it should be mandatory for any of them executed in any other way.
Jeff Bargholz says
Cannibalism is the horror Conrad alluded to in “Heart of Darkness.” There’s something about it that horrifies modern people. I know it horrifies me.
I know women in remote New guinea villages still dig up corpses sometimes and eat them. Yuck. I read that it still goes on in the two Congos, although one of them is called the Central African Republic now. And I bet there are primitive Indian tribes in South America who do it.
On an aside, do you remember how the combatants in the French Indian War on both sides were terrified of being captured by the Indians because of the horrific torture they inflicted? I don’t blame them. Fuck that shit.
Jeff Bargholz says
The Paleosimians once got 1100 terrorists in exchange of a single IDF soldier.
Algorithmic Analyst says
Thanks Cowboy! I read somewhere that her leg was in an unnatural position, which would indicate that she wasn’t alive.