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The Associated Press recently made headlines by falsely claiming that the Israeli campaign against Hamas “sits among the deadliest and most destructive in recent history” and was even worse than “the Allied bombing of Germany in World War II”.
The Washington Post argued that “Israel has waged one of this century’s most destructive wars in Gaza” while The Wall Street Journal contended that it was “generating destruction comparable in scale to the most devastating urban warfare in the modern record.”
That’s all the more impressive since even accepting the Hamas casualty figures (tainted and inflated numbers in which there are no terrorists, only civilians, and fighting age men are really children) as the media does, this is still probably one of the least violent conflicts in the region.
In 2016, the Washington Post described the Syrian Civil War, with a possible 250,000 deaths, as “the most destructive conflict in the region”. In 2020, the UN had called the Yemeni Civil War, with 150,000 deaths, “the most destructive conflict since the end of the Cold War”.
And then there’s the current phase of the war in Sudan (which the media is currently uninterested in) in which 15,000 people have been killed over the course of last year, as part of a larger conflict that may have claimed as many as 2 million lives.
The Tigray War in Ethiopia over the last three years (which you may have missed because the media chose not to hysterically cover every single bomb dropped and protesters stayed home knitting instead of blocking traffic) may have cost the lives of between 80,000 to 600,000 people.
(El Pais, Spain’s newspaper, which did report on Ethiopia’s civil war, described it as “the deadliest of the 21st century” and then had to pivot to argue later that Israel was worse in, “25,000 deaths in Gaza: Why the destruction of this war exceeds that of other major conflicts”.)
In reality, every significant war and civil war in the region had a much higher death toll than the Hamas war: including the Iraq-Iran War with an estimated 500,000 to 2 million deaths. And in nearby Africa, the Congo War has been blamed for 6 million deaths since 1996.
How does the media justify arguing that 25,000 is more than 2 million?
There are plenty of statistical gimmicks available to anyone who wants to argue that 2 + 2 is really 5. Media “analyses” that claim that Israel’s campaign against Hamas is the deadliest and most destructive, and might even be worse than WWII, adjust their claims accordingly.
As the author of every dubious research study knows, to get the results you want, you manipulate your parameters. Media analyses selectively compare Israel’s campaign to battles, rather than wars, they narrowly focus on very specific timetables, they try to estimate per capita rather than gross figures. But drawing a circle around a particular area and going per capita works both ways. The Hamas attack of Oct 7 killed 10% of the population of Kibbutz Be’eri making it far worse per capita than anything in Israel’s response to those atrocities.
But statistical fudging is all in where the line is drawn to achieve a particular agenda.
For example, the New York Times declares that, “Gaza Deaths Surpass Any Arab Loss in Wars With Israel in Past 40 Years”. Of course the last major Arab-Israeli war took place 50 years ago.
The 40 year figure is based on the Lebanon War, but the actual numbers for that war vary wildly from the thousands according to Israel, 10,000 according to the CIA, 18,000 according to Lebanon and 30,000 according to Arafat and the PLO.
While the media at the time emphasized the highest estimates, in order to criticize the Israeli campaign against the PLO, they now use lower estimates to attack the Gaza campaign.
Similarly, the AP cites its own claim that battles against ISIS in the Iraqi city of Mosul “killed around 10,000 civilians” to indict Israel. Some Iraqi estimates however peg it as high as 40,000. PBS headlined its coverage by warning that “the human toll of the battle for Mosul may never be known.”
The New York Times, after using the shaky Lebanon numbers to prop up the shaky Gaza numbers, admits that “as in Gaza today, researchers say the number killed in Lebanon may never be known with confidence because of the fog of war, even four decades later.”
That much is true.
The Times cites its own claim that, “numbering the dead correctly is virtually impossible”.
That’s why the death toll for everything from the Syrian and Yemeni civil wars to the mass deaths in Sudan and the Iran-Iraq War are broad estimates with vast differences between them.
Aeschylus, the Greek playwright, warned that truth is the first casualty of war. And accurate casualty counts are the first and final casualty of every conflict.
The Lancet, the British medical journal, once courted controversy with its claims that the Iraq War had killed, first 98,000 Iraqis and then over half a million or 2.5% of the country. By 2007, a British data company, claimed that 1 million Iraqis had been killed. These claims were quickly debunked and the claims are in the rearview mirror now that the debate over the war is over.
During the Iraq War it was politically convenient to inflate the death toll just as it’s now politically convenient to deflate the death toll while unthinkingly accepting casualty figures from a terrorist group whose main hope of survival lies in inflating civilian deaths while minimizing its own casualties.
The most troubling thing about the universal acceptance of the Hamas numbers is just that.
Estimated death tolls in the Syrian Civil War have varied wildly from the low six figures to over 600,000. Different organizations with different agendas have produced very different sets of numbers. And while many of those may be unreliable, there is at least a healthy debate.
When it comes to Gaza, the media cites no figures other than those of Hamas. And it insists at the same time that most of Gaza has been destroyed, its medical centers pulverized and its government shattered, and that this same system can not only be trusted, but is also somehow capable of producing infallible statistics that don’t exist in any other regional conflict.
The numbers for the Iran-Iraq War vary by 1.5 million, those of the Syrian Civil War and Tigray War by half a million, and yet somehow Gaza is the place where the numbers never vary and where a terrorist group got it just right. That’s something even America can’t do.
On September 11, 2023, DNA testing identified two more victims of the original 9/11 attacks. After 20 years, 1,000 human remains are still unknown. The exact number of deaths from when Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico in 2017 is still being debated and it took months to nail down the death toll from the Maui wildfires. And yet somehow the medical experts at Hamas can produce better numbers in a shorter timespan in a war zone than we can while at peace.
Casualty figures have always been the subject of propaganda and the most obvious symptom of propaganda is the lack of meaningful debate. Why does every regional war, including the Iraq War, have a wide range of estimated deaths, but not in Gaza? Because there is no dissent.
There is no dissent in Gaza or in the media which publishes absurd claims that a few months of fighting have somehow been more brutal than WWII or regional conflicts which claimed millions.
How many died in Gaza? The real answer is that, like the other wars, nobody knows.
After the fighting there will be studies that will pump up the estimated total even higher by using excess death statistics. Surveys of empty houses, heat maps or satellite images will be used to estimate even higher losses without regard as to whether they reflect deaths or evacuations. Local research based on anecdotal accounts and statistical legerdemain will be used to bake a variety of faulty figures into a far more grandiose number than the current 25,000. Expect claims that will go as high as the low six figures to be reported on and treated as fact and history.
Techniques like these account for the wide range of reported deaths from other conflicts. And then we can expect debates over the X curve and the correct readings of genealogical records. The end results will be deeply dubious but there will at least be some room for debate. There is little point in even debating the current numbers coming out of an arm of a terrorist organization.
But what the debates will reveal is that, agenda or no agenda, we don’t really know. Wars and natural disasters are messy. People disappear, some uproot themselves and some it will turn out never existed but were a mistake in the records of an unreliable part of the world.
Palestinian Authority and Hamas numbers, including population figures and birth rates, have reflected political agendas, rather than reality. As have those of UNRWA, the UN agency dedicated to serving the ‘Palestinians’ but locally staffed by Hamas, so there will be plenty of bad numbers to drown out the good ones.
“There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics,” Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli once reportedly quipped. The media’s coverage has offered plenty of all three.
But numbers in war mainly matter when it comes to outcomes of victory or defeat. The obsession with numbers in conflicts is an unhealthy distraction from the real issues.
The moral calculus between the Allies and the Nazis did not change based on how many German civilians were killed in the bombings and artillery shelling on the road to Berlin. The morality of the Civil War was not measured in civilian deaths and neither is any other.
A nation is actively evil when it sets out to exterminate a civilian population. Whether it is WWII or the Hamas war: only one of the two sides was engaged in a total war of extermination.
The morality of a war is not measured in civilian casualties, but in deliberate civilian killings.
On Oct 7 and in the months since, Hamas has engaged in the deliberate killings of civilians. Israel has not. The number games are meant to be a distraction from that simple fact.
Morality is defined by intent, not statistics.
TruthLaser says
In this war, truth is the casualty of anti-Semitism.
Daniel Greenfield says
Has been the case in all of the region’s wars involving Israel.
But let’s also not forget western elites romanticising the ‘noble savage’, oil money and Communist interference.
Algorithmic Analyst says
The mythical noble savage was always assumed to be in the right, in reality, the opposite.
Algorithmic Analyst says
The incendiary bombings of Dresden and Hamburg were horrific.
Chief Mac says
May have been, but so were the terror bombings on England. Start a war and commit tens of thousands of war crimes, reap what you sow
Daniel Greenfield says
All bombings are. It’s a difference of degree.
In WWI, Germany was okay with poison gas, but really hated it when we used shotguns.
https://owlcation.com/humanities/World-War-1-History-Germany-Declares-Shotgun-Inhumane
On September 15, 1918, the German government officially protested the use of the shotgun in a note verbale—an unsigned diplomatic note—transmitted to the Spanish Embassy in Berlin, then to the Swiss Embassy, and eventually to the American legation in Berne, Switzerland. The note asserted that the use of shotguns by U.S. forces violated Article 23(e) of the 1899 and 1907 Hague Conventions and warned that any American captured with a shotgun or shotgun ammunition would be executed.
The German protest elicited mostly derision from American newspapers. This response, from the New York Sun, was typical: “It is hardly necessary to point out how ridiculous is this protest from a government that has used in war every foul means known to a foul mind. The inventors of poison gas objected to the use of a clean bullet!”
Benedict Crowell, the assistant secretary of war (and a future president of the National Rifle Association), offered his own opinion about how the United States should reply. “I am at a loss to see any plausible basis for the protest,” he wrote, noting that the shotgun was an “ancient and approved” weapon that had fallen into disuse not because it was thought to violate the laws of war but because the changing nature of warfare had limited its tactical effectiveness. “The killing of combatants is not only lawful, but one of the chief means of warfare,” he wrote, “and no weapon can be objectionable merely because of its capacity to kill.”
Algorithmic Analyst says
Thanks Daniel, good bit of history!
Domenic Pepe says
I hope and pray that Israel does to Gaza what America did to Dresden and Hamburg in WW2.
Gaza and the entire Islamic Middle East need to be de-Islamified, just like Germany was de-Nazified.
Qatar and the Saudi Royal Family are really just as rotten as the depraved psychopathic Gazan/Hamas
murderers.
Actually, the USA should join in an alliance with Israel to crush the depraved psychopathic murdering
Islamic scum.
Jeff Bargholz says
Tokyo was firebombed too, as you know. Those wood and paper houses went up better than firewood at a Boy Scout Jamboree. Not that I was ever in the Boy Scouts. Too gay for me. Cub Scouts, yeah but that was enough.
The stories about Dresden were the worst though, even if I doubt their validity. People trapped in molten tar on the roads and the air itself aflame? Who the F could see those things and tell the tale? I’m sure it was bad though. But hey, the Nazis shouldn’t have attacked every nation they possibly could. Even North Africa! What the Hell is there worth taking? Some desert sand? We have plenty of that in America but maybe those Germans wanted something besides beer and bratwurst.
Daniel Greenfield says
the Tokyo firebombings were more devastating than the atomic bombs
but dying in a bombing is ugly no matter what
At 12:30 pm on Wednesday 20 January 1943 Sandhurst Road School, Minard Road in Catford southeast London was packed with children when a German aircraft dropped a 500 kilogram (1,100 lb) high explosive bomb killing 30 children and six members of staff, six more children later died in hospital. Sixty people (children and staff) were seriously injured, and many were buried for several hours under rubble.
Mary Burch was five years old and John, her ten-year-old brother, was at the same school and his body was found buried under rubble three days later.
I was sitting with friends at the table and had just been given a jam tart … When the plane flew past the window, we saw the pilot and he waved at us. We waved back but as we did, I saw the German markings on the wing.
Someone shouted for us to dive under the table. As I jumped down my jam tart fell. I picked it up and put it in my mouth and I’ve never been able to eat a jam tart since.
I saw my brother running past the table and I called his name and as he turned the bomb fell and I was buried. I couldn’t breathe or move; I remember trying to call for help. I remember the relief of the bricks being lifted from my face.
The next thing I knew I was lying on the cold hard pavement outside and someone was saying ‘She hasn’t got long’. I didn’t know what that meant.
My jaw was broken and there was wood protruding from my head and my back… I remained in hospital for nearly two years and still didn’t realise John was dead. When I returned home everything he owned was gone. It was as if he never existed.
Jeff Bargholz says
Yes, the Nazi bombings of London and other parts of England were horrific. And they seemed senseless and unnecessarily brutal to me. Either invade Britain or ignore its demonstrations. Bombing the shit out of the Brits was wrong. The Krauts did it for the same reason the Allies bombed the shit out of Germany, to cow the population and armies, but the Brits didn’t start WWII, the Nazis did. And the Imperial Japanese, who were particularly horrific. I had Indonesian friends who told me they used to skin people alive and eat them.
Fuck that shit.
Algorithmic Analyst says
Thanks Jeff, that was my point, those incendiary bombings were worse than the A-bomb.
Snuffy Carter says
The IDF has to be the most moral military ever. Who else drops warning leaflets on civilian neighborhoods in enemy territory before bombing the enemy – only Israel. Who else has a cease fire to allow food and medicine to be delivered to civilians in enemy territory – like we just saw in Gaza – only Israel. Who else designates a safe zone for civilians in enemy territory during a war where the military promises not to shoot – like we saw in Gaza – only Israel.
Daniel Greenfield says
Certainly the most merciful military. But I’m not sure that’s really moral.
A moral response would be quickly defeat the enemy and put an end to its evil and the war.
Jeff Bargholz says
Yes. Expunge evil. Evil never ends, you know. It will come for your families if you let it.
Jeff Bargholz says
America dropped leaflets in Japan before it got nuked. Just saying……
mj says
“Morality is defined by intent.”
In today’s upside down, inside out world of redefining what used to be very basic, important words, original meanings have been perverted to mean the opposite of themselves.
‘Morality’ and ‘intent’ no longer mean what they used to mean, what Mr. Greenfield means.
‘Old’ morality assumes a universally acknowledged basic concept of right and wrong, a ‘civilized’ world’s shared understanding of what is good and what is bad.
It follows that good intent is defined by morality; and evil intent is defined by depravity.
Not so today. The ‘new’ morality is the absence of morality and good deeds. And ‘intent’ spawns ‘pure’ evil.
Every generation of humans since the creation of Adam and Eve has twisted the ‘old’ morality into the ‘new’ [absolute lack of] morality.
This lack of morality can be diagnosed as a disease, as a “hardening of the heart” of the world’s ‘new’ moralists.
Truth isn’t working.
So what’s the cure?
mj says
Maybe what I wrote doesn’t make any sense to anyone. I’m so disgusted by the shamelessness and gang mentality of the woke world.
I am currently reading The Secret War Against the Jews, How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People, published in 1994.
Well, the war against the Jewish people isn’t secret anymore.
Daniel Greenfield says
We don’t share a common set of morals. The Left’s only morals are revolutionary. Thus the only good thing is ‘punching up’ and Oct 7 is defined as that. Israel defending itself is counterrevolutionary and therefore immoral.
to sell this to non-leftists, they invert language and meaning
racism becomes anti-racism
morality means cruelty
Chaya says
Yes, you do make sense. Some have erroneously moved toward forgiving Nazis because some Nazis tried to hide their crimes once they were losing the war. I believe they did this to avoid punishment. Some want to believe it was a sign of shame on the part of Germans. That allows people the comfort of not admitting that Nazis were amoral monsters.. Which is what they were. They compare Hamas which is on video throughly enjoying their 21 st century brutality. Same target. Same torture. No real difference.
This points to the tendency for people to want to feel good about themselves and also whitewash their world so they remove difficult facts. . If there is no clarity about right and wrong there is muddied morality.
That is why i am so disappointed that America and UK allow Jew hate rallies in their streets and on campuses. It’s not free speech. Its the last gasp of thoroughly corrupted dying shattered cultures.
The USA and UK are no more.
Daniel Greenfield says
A lot of Nazis had invested everything in an ideology that had fallen apart. So they tried to move on.
A typical example is Rudolf Hoss, the Auschwitz commander, responsible for the murder of millions, who initially had no response, shrugged it off as doing his duty, and then underwent some feigned religious awakening, apologized to the Poles, not to the Jews, before being executed
Hoss, like most Nazis, enjoyed life in their new ideology, until it fell apart, and then he looked for some sort of social sanction.
The thing about the Nazis is that they were very social animals. The whole movement was built on peer approval.
Jeff Bargholz says
Peer approval? Knowing those Krauts, it was probably beer approval.
Steven Brizel says
The mss as I stream media reporting from Gaza is dictated and controlled 100%. by Hamas which means nothing reported by the mainstream media is trustworthy
Daniel Greenfield says
Indeed, not that Hamas has to push the media very hard
also the stringers and some of the staff are outright Hamas
KenPF says
More deadly than “the Allied bombing of Germany in World War II”” Really? Uh …no. Hamas has been claiming 24,000 “civilian” deaths eagerly adopted by the American leftists press. Hamas can’t distinguish between civilian and military because by policy and strategy they refuse to make the distinction possible. That’s exactly why they are not covered by the Geneva Conventions.
NOTE: The single 2 day Dresden raid cost about that number of real civilian deaths. Which is to say nothing of the Hamburg firestorm (37,000). Or the British Blitz (30,000). Which is to say absolute nothing about the 363 raids on Berlin (unknown tens of thousands).
It seems Sam Cooke was prophetically singing about the Washington Post all those long years ago’
Don’t know much about history (check)
Don’t know much biology (double check)
Don’t know much about a science book (Ditto)
Don’t know much about geography (apparently not)
Don’t know much trigonometry (yep)
Don’t know much about algebra (check)
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PS: A British Colonel named Richard Kemp studied the IDF’s conduct and came to this conclusion … “the IDF did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.”
Daniel Greenfield says
Indeed, I didn’t even bother with the WW2 claim
they try to make it work by comparing all of Germany to Gaza and then claiming that more buildings in Gaza were destroyed than in Germany
this nonsense didn’t even merit a response
Jeff Bargholz says
That’s a great song. Cooke had a great voice.
Algorithmic Analyst says
Don’t know much about Algebra, don’t know what a slide rule is for 🙂
Jeff Bargholz says
That song makes me think of the movie “Animal House.” A classic.
foxhound says
Dear Daniel,
Please use your contacts to address the following. I know of nowhere else to go. The current number of MILES of tunnel is 450!!! Being a nerd I find this ridiculous. That amounts to hundreds of thousands of truckloads of dirt!! First of all , how were they dug out? People or equipment? How would you hide that many people going to work each day? Next and most important is WHERE DO YOU PUT THE DIRT? It must go somewhere. A complete new seaport could be built with it. How would you hide the dirt from the Mossad? You could not. Israel must have known the tunnels were expanding and chose to do nothing. Why? Simple devices could be placed to hear what was going on with equipment or laborers. People gossip. How could they not have known. The government is totally responsible for this charade!
Daniel Greenfield says
First of all there was a lot of construction in Gaza.
Remember after previous conflicts, the international community spent hundreds of millions to “reconstruct Gaza”
if Israel doesn’t finish the job this time, they’ll do it again
so there’s a boom in construction overall which helps cover for the tunnels
that said, obviously Israel was aware of the tunnels, everyone knew Hamas was digging tunnels, though not necessarily the scale of them
but it’s also not so hard, look at how cartels dig tunnels under our border
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna45551626
Building a drug-smuggling tunnel underneath the border isn’t so tough, but finding the right place to do it is, experts say. Mexican cartels have figured out just the perfect spot along the border in terms of soil type, access and camouflage, and will likely continue.
Last week, U.S. authorities working with their Mexican counterparts discovered a 612-yard tunnel connecting two warehouses between San Diego and Tijuana.
The tunnel included electric rail cars to ferry pot between the two nations, as well as a sophisticated hydraulic system.
Garcia says the tunnel was built by laborers using pneumatic shovels, jackhammers and old-fashioned sweat.
The tunnel was only four to five feet high and about five feet wide, Garcia said. That’s similar to a mining shaft. The men, probably a half dozen or so, slept inside a hidden room beneath the warehouse on the Mexican side, where law enforcement officials found blankets, food, microwave ovens and a small fridge. The men likely didn’t leave the warehouse for weeks at a time.
The soil, or tailings, from the tunnel were sandbagged and stored inside the Mexican warehouse, Garcia said. The area of San Diego where the tunnel was found, near the Otay Mesa border crossing, consists of clay soils that form a good structure for the tunnel.
Daniel Greenfield says
Remember, we used to build massive projects before we had modern technology and a ton of bureaucrats on our books.
If you have access to cheap labor, total control of the territory, no concern for safety, human rights, environmental stuff or any forms to fill out, it’s entirely doable
just ask the ancient Egyptians how they built the pyramids
Jeff Bargholz says
Rats have to dig, right? I used to see how many hidy holes they had out in the Mojave. They were canny little fuckers.
LTC John says
IMHO, Israel needs to treat Gazza and all those living there in the same as Joshua did to those in Jerricho. Kill every living man, women and child. Time for retribution. Nothing good inhabits that land.
Jeff Bargholz says
They even killed the dogs and livestock in Jericho, if I remember correctly. Some of those Old Testament stories are brutal as fuck. God killed entire cities and male populations back then.
Semaphore says
What did Ambrose Bierce say about the first casualty of war always being the truth? Seems to apply here.
Alkflaeda says
It strikes me that the Gaza war may be very convenient for anyone who has been inflating the population of Gaza in order to justify more grants or leverage more political support – guess what, those 20,000 extra people we magicked into the statistics have just been killed by the IDF!
Daniel Greenfield says
Exactly.
The actual population numbers are dubious and lots of ‘Palestinian’ families have already been collecting aid for ‘paper children’ and relatives who don’t exist anywhere except on forms
it’s easy enough to ‘kill them off’ and then collect martyrdom payments for them
Anne-Marie Marion says
Bottom line: AP and WaPo are full of shit.
Walter Sieruk says
About the actual cause of the murderous jihad massacre that the Muslim terrorist of Hamas committed on October , 7th, 2023.
The “roots” of the ideology of Islamic terrorism is based on the theology of the religion of Islam.
In which has its entire foundation on the Qur ‘an.
That “holy book” of Islam the Qur ‘an [the Koran] instructs on the use of violence and killing of disbelievers for the advancement of Islam. As found in ,for example 2:191. 4:89. 5:33. 9:5,111,123.
47:4.
Furthermore, teaches hate for and towards Jewish people, as in calling them descendants of “apes and swine.” As seen in the Qu ‘ran in 2:65; 7:166.; 5:60. Therefore , the violent jihadist and devote jihad-minded Muslims despise the Jewish State of Israel.
That murderous demonic jihad entity, Hamas is based on Islam . That’s the actual, real,” roots” of that Israel – Hamas war.
Walter Sieruk says
Hamas is a violent and deadly religious organization. It’s foundation is Islam which has Quran as its ’holy book” that instructs Muslims to engage in the violence and killing of “disbelievers” for the cause of Islam, as seen in Surah 2:191. 4: 89. 5:33. 9:123. For example, Surah 47:4 reads, “Whenever you encounter the disbelievers strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…”
The terrible reality is that using rockets, machine guns and bombs will make a greater “slaughter among them than a sword can.
The jihadists of Hamas are followers of Quran based Islam and not a “warped’ type of Islam.
Verneoz says
This is all normal now since the main stream news got out of journalism and objective news over 25 years ago when CNN reported on Operation Tailwind in Laos conducted in 1970. This operation was conducted by 16 MACV-SOG Special Forces secret operators and 110 Montagnards and was the most successful intelligence operation conducted during the Vietnam War. Hundreds of pounds of North Vietnamese Army files, and documents were recovered which gave the clearest picture of NVA Order of Battle and military strength never before seen. But CNN called it something else to cast dispersion upon these fighting men most of which were wounded most several times. CNN said these men were sent in to Laos to drop nerve agents on US deserters. CNN was sued by surviving Special Forces officers and soldiers and CNN lost. Here’s the link to that fake news. Read it in its entirety. http://edition.cnn.com/US/9807/02/tailwind.findings/index.html
Daniel Greenfield says
Ah yes, I remembered that recently when Bernard Shaw died.
Jeff Bargholz says
Didn’t he die over half a century ago? Like 1950 or something?
“An Unsocial Socialist” was great, even though I didn’t go along with it’s vibe.
George Mallory says
Thank you, Daniel. This reality is so clear. Most of the US press has published the Hamas mortality statistics without comment. We may never have any insight into the true numbers. I never believed that 2/3 of the deaths were in women and children. Hamas and the PA should never be believed in their claims.
Tedf says
As usual, you are always on Point.
As a very famous anti Zionist rabbi once proclaimed “the whole purpose of the UN was to be against Israel.
Steven Brizel says
The ISF is the most moral army in the history of warfare even when fighting with its hands tied behind its back by worrying excessively about public opinion and Biden , Hamas conflates civilian with military casualties and the mainstream media since Vietnam refuses to consider any civilian casualties in war as necessary collateral damage especially when civilians overwhelmingly support butchers such as Hamas
Jeff Bargholz says
Hamas is wholly comprised of civilians, although it’s a de-facto military organization designed to murder Jews and bilk the West out of trillions of dollars. And the psuedo military costumes they wear as in the photo above are clear proof that they violate the Geneva Conventions (which they never signed onto anyway) and all conventions of just warfare. And why do the PUSSIES always wear masks? Because they don’t want to be recognized.
All the civilians in Hamas are vermin as low as college professors and FBI agents. They’re Biden level scum.
Walter Sieruk says
Israel has every right to retaliate against Hamas for its vicious and murderous jihad attack against her. Israel is very justified in fighting back against Hamas.
As the former US President, James Monroe, had so well said “The right of self -defense never ceases. It is the most sacred, and alike necessary to nations and individuals.”
Walter Sieruk says
Hamas, should be dealt with defeated and even destroyed is to hit it hard , hit it long and keep on hitting it with strong powerful forceful military strikes until it’s unable to raise up again with its ugly , vicious and deadly jihad Islamic head.
As its been wisely said, “Half measures in war is folly and madness.”
Walter Sieruk says
Those brutal vicious murderous jihadists of Hamas can’t be reasoned with .They cannot and will not respond to the logic of reason. The only language that they are able to understand is that of being on the receiving end of a very strong might power of military might.
As Thomas Jefferson had, very wisely, written, “With every barbarous people…force is law.”