People talk of a ‘Middle East Peace Process’ which involves the Palestinians and Israel. They talk about advancing a “two-state solution.” That process is a total illusion which has nothing to do with peace. It has everything to do with accelerating a process begun in ancient times. That process was and remains the effort to finally eradicate the Jewish idea of G-d as the creator of all and the source of the moral law which includes The Ten Commandments.
During eighteen centuries of homelessness, and having no power, Jews were oppressed because of their ‘Jewish idea.’ America’s founders were inspired by the human rights found in the Bible, and the power of that idea generated a revolt in America in 1776 that defeated the greatest power of that time. American volunteers and farmers defeated Britain and won their freedom. Our founding documents also inspired people in other countries to break free of their dictatorships. Today, dictatorships and corrupt “democracies” must feel threatened by the Jewish idea because they support Muslim enemies that openly threaten both human rights and the existence of the one, tiny democracy in the Middle East.
Following are factors which should be considered by those who support justice and peace in the Middle East as well as globally.
- Israel is the only nation created by G-d over 3,000 years ago, and who defined their physical boundaries and provided it with a humane code of moral and ethical behavior. Those countries who today talk about a two-state “solution” did not even exist when King David ruled a Jewish nation from Jerusalem.
- The book The Jewish People’s Rights to the Land of Israel by Salomon Benzimra. This book makes an irrefutable case based on history and law. It will fortify Jews who support Israel and want to be sure that the case for Israel is ‘air tight’ with no hidden weakness or vulnerability. It will certainly convince all those who are honest and value truth and justice. This book should be part of Jewish education in Israel and in the diaspora. For those who are hostile to the existence of Israel no amount of law, truth, and justice will influence them. That is why Israelis must be prepared to defend their land and their lives with strong military force if need be.
- The Holocaust: For awhile, after WWII, it became unfashionable to be overtly anti-Semitic. As time passed and memories faded it became easier to attack Jews. Israel became more of a target because of the global BDS movement with its sophisticated propaganda. The Palestinian cause generated countless supporters even among the Jewish Left. Mortal enemies of Israel could take encouragement because Hitler succeeded in exterminating six million Jews, while America and the West allowed many former Nazis to enter their countries and escape punishment. Seventy-seven years after WWII anti-Semitism is growing against Israel, and inside America. Much of the hatred is based on demonizing Israel and her supporters as persecutors of a victimized Palestinian people. In the process Israel’s enemies are now questioning Israel’s right to even exist. Recent votes by the U.N. suggest that many countries would go along with international measures to strangle Israel economically unless it creates a hostile Palestinian presence inside its heartland. Israel and its supporters must be able to fully expose the lies and hypocrisy of their critics while asserting the full rights of the sovereign Jewish nation.
- The book The Secret War Against The Jews – How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People. From the early days of Zionism though today (except for four years under President Trump) U.S. foreign policy has placed a higher value on Arab oil than on Jewish blood. The betrayers tried to hide the full extent of their treachery because the American people and the U.S. Congress were mostly pro Zionist and pro Israel. The 1994 book by John Loftus and Mark Aarons heavily documented what could have put the entire U.S. foreign policy and intelligence communities on the defensive. It could have defeated much of the unfair U.S. pressure on Israel to make dangerous concessions. This book published by Simon and Schuster was promoted by author John Loftus on an extensive book tour. Unfortunately the American Jewish community failed to make full use of this political “ammunition.”
- The Roosevelt Administration’s betrayal. In 1939 FDR convened a meeting of western governments in Evian France to address the issue of Jewish refugees trying to flee Nazi Germany. FDR’s representative at that meeting announced, at the start, that the U.S. would not take in any Jews fleeing Germany. When the others heard the U.S. representative they, too, declined to offer asylum to the Jews. Hitler also learned of this western decision.
Within one year, in 1939, Hitler allowed the S.S. St. Louis to sail from Germany with some 900 Jews aboard. They were headed for Cuba where that government had previously agreed to take them in. Hitler wanted to rid Germany of Jews and was testing to see if the U.S. and the West would take them in. When the ship neared Cuba that government reneged and refused to allow the Jews to land. The ship’s captain moved the ship near Florida while desperate efforts were made to find an alternative solution. Eleanor Roosevelt begged FDR to take in the Jews but FDR was unmoved and ordered them sent back to Germany. Hitler had cleverly exposed the hypocrisy and antisemitism of FDR before the world. Hitler also learned that FDR and the West had little concern over the fate of Jews.
During the war FDR was asked to at least bomb the rail lines leading to the death camps. He consistently refused pleas from Rabbi Stephen Wise while insisting the best way to help the Jews was to win the war. FDR never did anything to oppose the extermination of the Jews. Late in the war FDR talked about the fate of Jews who might survive, urging that they be “spread thinly” among various countries, which assured assimilation that would make them disappear.
- A historic pattern of anti-Semitism: There are those ready and willing to physically attack Jews and those who support such attacks with money, resources, and propaganda. Today Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinians, and others attack physically while media, money, and political support operate to justify attacks on Israel, condemn Israeli responses, and paint Israel as a perpetual aggressor.
In 2014 Hamas in Gaza launched thousands of missiles toward Israel to kill Jewish civilians. President Obama did nothing to oppose that attack. Instead he stopped all U.S. air flights to Israel. Other countries followed, effectively isolating Israel from the outside world. Obama also refused to allow Israel access to stockpiles of munitions that the U.S. had pre-positioned to help Israel in such an emergency. Obama was thus actively supporting Hamas’s missile war against Israel. Senator Ted Cruz alone acted to pressure Obama to cease his treachery against Israel. Not one Jewish senator acted to follow Senator Cruz while Jews in the House remained silent.
In 2015 Israel was scheduled to hold an election. Obama sent a team of political operatives to set up shop in Tel Aviv. Their mission was to actively help the opposition to Prime Minister Netanyahu and topple his government. This blatant interference in a democratic election inside a sovereign allied nation brought no outcry from the majority of U.S. Jews who vote Democrat no matter what.
Was it Obama’s revenge against Israel that led him to develop his plan regarding Iran’s nuclear program? Ostensibly it was supposed to curb and limit the nuclear program but, as P.M. Netanyahu revealed, Obama’s program guarantees that Iran will get the bomb after a limited time interval.
- The “Palestinians” are exploited as expendable cannon fodder in the war against Israel. The Palestinians are an invented people with an invented history. In 1964, three years before the Six Day War, Yasser Arafat and the KGB invented the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Palestinian narrative. Arabs who were inside Israel could now be recruited to fight Israel from the inside. The real solution to the Arab–Israeli conflict is Jordan. That land was stolen by the British from the territory under the Palestine Mandate issued by the League of Nations and assigned to Great Britain. Jordan is 3.5 times the size of Israel. It is UNRWA that refuses to end the “homelessness” of the Arabs still in camps. Their entire narrative is false and designed to convince the world that Israel is guilty of brutal “occupation” of Palestine and the persecution of the “Palestinian” people. By moving the majority of Palestinian Arabs from Israel to Jordan, which is mostly Palestinian, the “refugee problem” is solved—except for those who want to exploit the situation for their endless war against Israel.
- The U. N. and the EU as moral hypocrites in the endless war against Israel and Jews. Hitler tried to hide his death camps for Jews because he feared possible repercussions if they became known to the world. Today, with the UN operating, Iranian dictators proudly declare “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.” Iran has a large fleet of missiles awaiting their nuclear warheads. The U.S., NATO, the U.N., and the EU have no credible plan to block Iran from making nuclear weapons.
In 1947–48 Israel accepted the U.N. partition plan but the Arabs all rejected it and vowed to exterminate the Jews in a coming war. No objections arose from anyone.
In 1967 Gamal Nasser of Egypt plus the leaders of Syria were prepared to “drive the Jews into the sea.” No objection came from the U.S. or the U.N.
In 1973 Egypt and Syria attacked Israel while it was under Kissinger’s restraints. When Nixon wanted to resupply Israel every NATO country (except Portugal) refused landing rights to U.S. transports. They were willing to watch Israel be destroyed.
The U.N. and the world community have no moral right to lecture Israel because they have forfeited what moral credibility they might have had.
- The U.S. foreign policy establishment has no moral credibility regarding Israeli security. The U.S. government helped Israel because the American people support Israel but, behind the scenes, the U.S government undermines Israeli security.
Meanwhile Joe Biden is inviting millions of people from over 150 countries to illegally walk into our country and receive generous benefits without being vetted!
- Is the Biden administration enabling the PA’s ‘pay-for-slay’? ‘Pay for slay’ is a form of active warfare against Israel by Joe Biden and must be exposed as such.
While the PA continues to reward Palestinian terrorists, the Biden administration, in a reversal of Trump-era policies, is loosening American pursestrings to the satisfaction of rogue actors like Hamas. Contained within the U.S. foreign aid package is the resumption of $150 million in funding for the United Nations Relief Works Agency (UNRWA).
- Israel was founded over 3,000 years ago on about 10,000 square miles of land. How is it that 56 Muslim countries with millions of square miles of land cannot find any space at all for their ‘Palestinian’ relatives?
- Beware of the Jewish left in Israel and the diaspora. From the beginning of the Zionist movement there were Jews who actively opposed the Zionist idea. Today groups like J Street, Jewish Voice for Peace, and the Jewish left continue their support for a ‘Palestinian’ state inside Israel. These people ally with the political Left to increase their influence. To further blur and dilute Jewish support for Israel most American Jews (3/4 to 2/3) consistently vote Democrat—no matter what. Surveys show that, in a list of priorities, support for Israel is on the list but far from the top. The list includes social justice, gay rights, intersectionality, and climate ‘justice’. The Jewish Leftists are less educated about Zionism and Judaism than they should be and thus vulnerable to being misled about their identity and their moral priorities.
- Summary: the plan to exterminate Israel. We cannot tell whether or when Israel’s enemies will attempt to finally exterminate Israel. So Israel must be ready to pre-empt militarily and diplomatically.
The UN is trying to make Israel a moral outcast.
There is always the possibility of a global boycott to force a PLO state into existence.
Iran will be allowed to get the bomb.
Hezbollah has 150,000 rockets in southern Lebanon which have the potential to overwhelm Israeli defenses.
Simultaneous military attacks on multiple fronts: Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLO, global boycott, riots by the Israeli left, Israel warned not to respond, and total boycott threatened if Israel uses nukes. Israel could be put in a non-survivable situation.
The world should also consider the warning of Genesis 3.1. Israel and supporters of Israel should pre-empt our enemies by exposing their long record of criminality and hypocrisy. We must also define our rights and our Jewish faith as the moral code from G-d.
As the Biden-Obama team steadily increases its anti-Israeli pressure it is essential that Israel’s supporters launch a strong public relations offensive to expose the lies and treachery of the Biden-Obama gang. We recently learned that 57 House Democrats are already on record as hostile to Israel. Biden and Obama insult Israel, and Israel barely responds.
It’s time to take off the gloves and punch back at Biden-Obama, the UN, etc. Pro-Zionist Jewish organizations must mobilize and use the long history of anti-Jewish treachery to push back against the Biden-Obama policy of undermining Jews and Israel. There is a lesson to be learned from militant Blacks in America who maintain their ongoing political offensive to seek “justice” and even “reparations.” They capitalized on and exploited the ‘George Floyd’ incident. We Jews have far more to use against the Biden-Obama threat. We can use the Palestinians’ hideous ‘Pay for Slay’ program to deliberately murder Jewish men, women, and children and which has a Nazi aspect to it. We also need non-Jewish allies. I do not see U.S. Zionists reaching out to the 11 million members of CUFI, Christians United for Israel, as we should.
The alarm bells are sounding, and the hour is late. Zionist Jews must mobilize now and act boldly to expose the treachery of both our enemies and our so-called friends.
Rachel Neuwirth is an internationally recognized political commentator and analyst. She specializes in Middle Eastern Affairs with particular emphasis on Militant Islam and Israeli foreign policy.
Lethal says
People are anti-Israel and anti-Jews because they are anti-Christ. Jesus was a jew and most hate Him!
God promised to bless those who blessed Israel – Genesis 12.1-3. And don’t wonder why The UK is a shadow of its former self – they refused to help the Jews. Similarly the USA is on the way out thanks to Roosevelt and Obama and Biden & co and their support for Israel’s enemies.
I wonder how many know of the benefits we have all received thanks to Israeli Inventions both medical and industrial?
Rachelle says
Unfortunately the problem goes far deeper than that. And it is centered in one prevalent theme. Jews are OK as long as we are the underdogs. Israel’s success shows that we are no longer the underdogs, and that upsets the narrative. People who know less than nothing about us have the gall to tell us that immigrants from Russia and Poland are not really attached to the land of Israel. Such willful denial of the facts does little to enhance such arguments. But in the end it doesn’t matter. Like many Israelis, I don’t really fret too much about what the ignoramuses of the world think.
redherring says
The Jews themselves are anti-Christ. You ever see the reaction of Jewish families when a son/daughter tells them they are thinking of converting to Christianity? They are disowned!!
Noah Andeark says
Hmmm……False president JoJo Cabbage Brain Biden is seen as the 2nd coming of FDR. I believe it. Only this time, not a chance that we’re giving up our guns.
Sebastion says
“The Palestinians are an invented people with an invented history. In 1964,”
Whether there was such a thing as a “Palestinian” is an irrelevant debate, and Zionist’s use it dishonestly to make their point. It doesn’t matter if Arabs in the 19th/20th centuries considered themselves Palestinians, Jordanians, part of Southern Syria, Ottomans, or a member of a tribe or clan. It doesn’t matter if they were considered “people”, or “A people”, The fact is they lived in and had profound religious, historical, cultural and sentimental ties to a particular area of land known variously and for centuries as “Palestine” and the Holy Land.
The Palestinian Arab didn’t agree that a group of people who last lived in the land, in large numbers, over 2,000 yrs ago, could claim on the basis of a religious text (and they were secular and didn’t believe in God) rights to a land where the current inhabitants have been for thousands of years.
Sebastion says
In addition, the Jews of Europe have no genetic or ancestral ties to the Middle East. They are European. The reason the Jews fled Europe was rampant antisemitism; not some longing to go back to their “homeland.”
Rachelle says
Your ignorance is astonishing. I wonder that you even want to expose how little you know for everyone to witness.
Sebastion says
So, in other words, you can’t refute what I wrote. Then attack me personally. Got it.
Sebastion says
And yes, the Jews of Europe are European. They’ve been in Europe for thousands of years. I don’t mean to upset you, Rachelle. That was not my intention, but I’m not going to pretend a man can be a woman, or that a European Jew who’s been on that continent for thousands of years somehow has a genetic link to the Middle East.
dan says
you show a profound lack of knowledge and more than that a perfect flat brain without circumvolutions so you prove that such an empty brain can t learn,
Rachelle says
Absolute rubbish.
Sebastion says
I’m sorry facts hurt your feelings. I’m not quite sure what you’re so upset about? Did I write anything offensive or vulgar? I simply and accurately stated that using the “there is no such thing as a Palestinian” is a dishonest tactic, and gave the reason. Whatever you call them these people still reigned and lived in that area.
dani says
May Israel, the eternal homeland of the Jewish people, continue to be a thorn in your side long after you are worm food.
Sebastion says
dani, what an odd and unstable response. What would make you think that Jewish folks are a thorn in my side? I’m from NY and are friends and worked with Jews. I don’t judge people based on race, religion, or national origin. I judge people as individuals.
That being said, everything I wrote is 100% accurate and you couldn’t refute it.
commonsense says
“Palestine” was a neglected, sparsely inhabited Ottoman backwater before the Zionists began arriving in numbers circa 1900. Its total population (including around 15-20,000 Jews) ca. 1870 was no more than 60,000. The arrival of the Zionists, who worked assiduously to reclaim wastelands and bring modernity to a land neglected for centuries, spurred others, chiefly Arab Muslims, to migrate there and take advantage of the new prosperity and work and business opportunities the Zionist Jews were creating. The lands reclaimed by the Zionists, by the way, were purchased, often at exorbitant sums, from absentee
Muslim landowners who resided elsewhere in Ottoman lands. Before the end of WWI, Ottoman rulers forcibly transferred Muslim populations from elsewhere (the Balkans, e g.) to Ottoman Palestine in an effort to keep the newly arriving Jews from becoming the dominant group; after the war the British, along with the Jews, invested heavily in modernizing what was now Mandatory Palestine – this spurred even more Arab Muslims to move there, greatly increasing their numbers. Most “Palestinians,” actually came from elsewhere, arriving only after the Jews and British created a favorable economic climate. A common Arabic surname in Israel/Palestine, for example, is “al-Masri,” which means “from Egypt.” There are many other common Arabic surnames attesting to Syrian, Lebanese, and Iraqi origins, just for starters.
Sebastion says
In response to Zionism, the Arabs pointed out that the laws of territorial possession were accepted worldwide: had they not been, the Arabs could reconquer and reclaim Spain, a country they reigned over for longer and more recently than the Jews did Palestine.
Lastly, but most importantly, “Jewish Law” , Orthodox Jews, etc, considered it sacrilegious and heretical arguing that a return to Eretz Israel could only be hastened by divine rather than human will;
Sebastion says
“What confusion would ensue all the world over if this principle on which the Jews base their “legitimate” claim were carried out in other parts of the world! What migrations of nations must follow! The Spaniards in Spain would have to make room for the Arabs and Moors who conquered and ruled their country for over 700 years.
Is that the moral argument for Zionism that there is no such thing as a Palestinian, or that the Jews were superior in cultivating the land of others?
The Palestinian Arabs rejected the concept that their land was uncultivated and uncared for, and that rights should be conferred on the Jews based on the latter’s superior technology agricultural methods. They said No to the idea that people do not love their land or have a special intimate connection with it because they do not cultivate it in the most modern ways. And they said No to the idea that newly-arrived Zionist Jews from Europe and elsewhere, for all their zeal and dedication, cared for the land more than the natives did.
Bigapple says
Great copy and paste job. You could have at least written, in your own words, what your thoughts were.
Sebastion says
What confusion would ensue all the world over if this principle on which the Jews base their “legitimate” claim were carried out in other parts of the world! What migrations of nations must follow! The Spaniards in Spain would have to make room for the Arabs and Moors who conquered and ruled their country for over 700 years…
The Palestinian Arabs rejected the concept that their land was uncultivated and uncared for, and that rights should be conferred on the Jews based on the latter’s superior technology agricultural methods. They said No to the idea that people do not love their land or have a special intimate connection with it because they do not cultivate it in the most modern ways. And they said No to the idea that newly-arrived Zionist Jews from Europe and elsewhere, for all their zeal and dedication, cared for the land more than the natives did.
Is that the argument to be made? The notion that there is a moral link between means of cultivation and rights to ownership is preposterous. Jews being more technically advanced in cultivation of land, and that there is no such thing as a Palestinian makes it ok for people of Europe to displace Arabs?
Sebastion says
Dan,
What’s profound is I laid out facts, and because you don’t like the facts, and can’t refute what I stated, you have to resort to personal attacks.
But, since you think you can teach me something more on a topic I have intimate knowledge on, please do so. I’ll stand by and wait……
FactsNotFictions says
All you did is present the false narrative you have swollen whole sale! Palestine was never an Arab:/palestinian sovereignty or that a distinct people called “Palestinian” existed or exist today! They are Arab tribes who hate and fight each other always. And the so called Palestinians are nothing but a political movement with one goal, destroying the Tiny Jewish state, Get your facts straight! Your facts are pure lies! Go get an eduction!
Sebastion says
I guess you have reading comprehension issues. Like I stated before, I’ll slow it down for you. Whatever you call them, whether it be Palestinians, Turks, Jordanians, part of Southern Syria, “people”, “A people, Ottomans, they were still people living in that region for thousands of years with a distinct culture and religion.
The Goldbergs and Rubensteins from Europe aren’t indigenous to the Middle East.
Talk about getting your facts straight and educating yourself.
factsNotfictioons says
I meant to have click on this link to read some facts with documention:
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/index.html
and here: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/feisal1.html
factsNotfictioons says
Sebastion,
FACT: More than 50% of Israelis are Jews, who always lived in the ME including historical Palestine/Holy-Land/Israel/Judea & Samaria for thousand of years with the same a distinct language, cluture, history etc. under the Roman all the way to under the Otomans. The Jews of Europe practiced the same language/Torah/Bible, cluture, history as the Jews of yemen, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Palestine/Holyland/Israel/Judea & Samaria/Medina of SA/Iran and from around the 4 corners of the world.. The Jews of Europe simply joined their bretherns in Israel.
Most Arabs came en mass to that area, Palestine/Holyland, becasue of economical opportunitis created by the Jews and British when they began to restablish the Jewish historical homeland after and before W.W.I. And did so under a scared trust in the agreed upon international law in the 1919/20 San Remo Peace conference.
For a starter, allow me to help you get some education and cease to be a parrot of those who propound falshood, distortions, twist and spins to the fact that today Israel despite all the horror she has endured EXIST AND EXCELLing for her own and all.
BEGIN HERE: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/feisal1.htmlI
AND PLEASE GO TO HOME PAGE OF www.eretzyisroel.org to learn more. Hopefully you will keep an open mind.
Be well,
factsNotfictioons says
Correction to the links for Sabstion et al, to read some facts with documention:
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/index.html
and here: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/feisal1.html
Sebastion says
To the contrary, the site you provided is filled with false and outdated information. You’re misguided and gullible if you think the Jews of today have any genetic connection to the Jews of the Bible over 3, 000 yrs ago. The overwhelming amount of Jews in Israel today are from outsiders; not those who are indigenous to that area. Like I said, whatever you want to call the Palestinians, they were people living in that region for thousands of years when the European Jews started to come in. Even the Palestinian Jews felt alienated from the European Jews, as they had nothing in common, other than their religious beliefs. Even Jewish law and Orthodox Jews considered it heretical and sacrilegious, arguing that a return to Eretz Israel could only be hastened by divine rather than human will.
The Palestinian Arabs said No to the idea that in the 20th century a people who last lived in Palestine in large numbers over 2000 years ago could claim, on the basis of a religious text, rights to the land where the current inhabitants had been living for a millennium and a half.
Sebastion says
The Jews of Europe had nothing in common with the Jews of the Middle East, other than Judaism, Different language, customs, cuisine, fashion, etc.
In addition, when a Jew from Europe takes an individualized DNA test they show zero DNA from the Middle East. Zero.. That’s because they are European.
Sebastion says
To the contrary, the site you provided is filled with false and outdated information. You’re misguided and gullible if you think the Jews of today have any genetic connection to the Jews of the Bible over 3, 000 yrs ago. The overwhelming amount of Jews in Israel today are from outsiders; not those who are indigenous to that area. Like I said, whatever you want to call the Palestinians, they were people living in that region for thousands of years when the European Jews started to come in. Even the Palestinian Jews felt alienated from the European Jews, as they had nothing in common, other than their religious beliefs. Even Jewish law and Orthodox Jews considered it heretical and sacrilegious, arguing that a return to Eretz Israel could only be hastened by divine rather than human will.
The Palestinian Arabs said No to the idea that in the 20th century a people who last lived in Palestine in large numbers over 2000 years ago could claim, on the basis of a religious text, rights to the land where the current inhabitants had been living for a millennium and a half.
factsNotfictioons says
Sebation, I suggest you look deep in the mirror. What you are accusing the Jews of is what you and your ilk are guilty of and certainly are misguided. I fear that even if truth hits you in the head, sadly you will not get it!
Israel isReal and is there for eternity! Most of the Arabs came en mass after the Jews and Bretain began to bulid that barren land historically called Palestine. Again, Palestine was never a soverign Arab/Muslim state. Show me a Jew, Christian or other that can be restored to the rest of the 21 newly created Arab states after W.W.I?
Perhaps these following links will help you see the light of the day:
See here:
1920 The year the Arabs discovered Palestine (part 1)
:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmXmFlp9eAs
and here:: The year the Arabs discovered Palestine (part 2)
WHAT IS PALESTINE? WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
Sebastion says
What am I accusing Jews of? You are parroting the same old tired rhetoric. Why do I have to keep repeating that whatever you want to call the “Palestinians” they were still people living in that region for 1,500 yrs. Period. The Jews of Europe are not from the Middle East! People lie. DNA doesn’t lie.
In addition, Jewish Law states it is considered heretical and sacrilegious, arguing that a return to Eretz Israel could only be hastened by divine rather than human will. Do you know what that means? These aren’t my words, but the words of Orthodox Jews and Jewish Law.
Bottom line. The Jews of Europe have no genetic link or ancestral lineage to the Middle East. If they did it would be all over their DNA. Southern Italians have more Middle East in their DNA profile. The Jews of Europe have zero. In fact, modern DNA testing shows, particularly along the matrilineal line, that the Jews of Europe “have more in common with the pre=historic indigenous people of Europe than the Levant or Middle East.”
factsNotfictioons says
Sebastion,
I am afraid you are not only clueless but also hopeless.
You wrote::
“In addition, Jewish Law states it is considered heretical and sacrilegious, arguing that a return to Eretz Israel could only be hastened by divine rather than human will. Do you know what that means? These aren’t my words, but the words of Orthodox Jews and Jewish Law.”
Where does it say so? Nowhere in the Jewish Bible/Torah, Law or what so ever but vice versa. That is a blatant lie by radical so called orthodox pretending to be Jews who side with the Arab Islamists enemy only because they are not a part of Israel policies, law and society.
At the same token if I may have you be interested in watching this perspective about beautiful Israel:
Sebastion says
factsNotfictioons,
I see. So because you don’t like the facts, anyone who states such is a liar. That’s not a lie by the Orthodox. I understand you don’t like it, but it’s not a lie. Many religious Jews condemn modern Zionism as “forcing the hand of God”–intervening with the divine plan for history. You know nothing about Jews, other than the fairy tale you parents told you. Every religious Jew knows the return to Eretz Israel is only by the act of God; not man.
I’m not surprised you don’t know this because you’re an atheist.
You are trying to reinterpret Jewish history. In God’s time He will bring the Jews back to Israel; not your time, Mr. Atheist.
Again, Jews of Europe are European. They have lived in Poland, Germany, Russia, France for thousands of years. Do you even know what an ethnicity is? The Jews of Poland have nothing in common with the Jews of Iran, for example, Different language, customs, fashion, cuisine, Let me put it another way. The Jews of Iran aren’t spinning dradels and eating gefilte fish.
You might have Jews living in Iran, Yemen, etc, who’ve been there for many generations, or thousands of years. Small numbers, but there are some. However, they aren’t the European Jews. Their DNA shows they are more closely related to the pre historic indigenous people of Europe.
Sit down, shut your mouth, and open your ears. That’s how you learn.
factsNotfictioons says
And here is another one for you, Sabestion and his ilk to absorb:
Sebastion says
I like Benjamin N, but that doesn’t refute anything I wrote,
factsNotfictioons says
Sebstion, you can tell yourself all the stories you wish to believe in including believing these cultists, the radical so-called Jewish orthodox who think that by some wind or some sort of Messiah the Jews will reestablish their Jewish homeland with doing nothing, a fake idea.
You fail to quote anything about who is a Jew. European Jews and Middle Eastern Jews shared the same prayers, same Torah/Bible, same holidays and same culture; they all prayed in Hebrew for thousands of years and wherever they were.
In Isaiah 11:11, God promised to stretch out his hand to regather Israel from the four corners of the earth “a second time” (the first time being from the lands of the Babylonian exile).
We know from Hosea 3:4-5 that it would occur in the last days, and Amos 9:15 tells us that they will never be uprooted again. Indeed God acted already 77 years ago if not longer.
READ HEAR TO LEARN MORE Particularly about the Jews of 4 corner of the world as they were disbursed after the last Roman expulsion from their ancient homeland, today’s Israel:
https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-based-teaching-from-israel/they-shall-come-trembling-from-the-west/
and read here too:
https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/european-jewish
Sebastion says
Listen, you’re an atheist. Being a Jew is first and foremost a religious identity. It’s common among the overwhelming amount of religious Jews that a return to Israel comes from the Divine; not some atheist political movement called Zionism. I don’t have to quote any particular Jewish religious leader., although I could. It’s common knowledge among religious Jews what their opinions are of Zionism, and it’s not favorable. Someone of your ilk wouldn’t understand that because you are a fake Jew. You’re nothing more than an atheist.
You can’t refute anything I wrote because you can’t refute the truth. All you do is post video’s. LOL. Video’s you probably haven’t even watched. You do that because you aren’t well versed on the issue.
Secondly, European Jews shared the same prayers and practiced the same faith, Judaism. That’s true. Just as Catholics around the world practice the same prayers and faith. BUT, they do not “share” anything else. Europe’s Jews and Middle Eastern Jews speak different languages, have different cuisine, different fashion, different culture, Again, they are in no way the same.
You keep brainwashing yourself with all your propaganda. Keep repeating it you might start to believe yourself.
Sebastion says
There have been many famous people who’ve taken DNA tests, including Jews, that have shared and posted those results. For example, Alan Dershowitz, the great trial lawyer, Carol King, the singer/songwriter, Jared Kushner, etc. Everyone of them show ZERO Middle East in their DNA. ZERO. ZILTCH, NADA. The Jews of Europe are not from the Middle East. They share nothing more than their faith, and most are secular.
Dershowitz, in addition to his DNA showing his Polish/European background, had experts conduct /follow a paper trail, which led again and ended in Poland. In Dershowirtz’s own words he stated “The Jews needed their own homeland. They had to get out of Europe due to rampant antisemitism.” NOT some nonsense that European Jews have a longing to get back to their “homeland.”
Do you see how absurd you sound? BTW, when many Jews get the results back from their DNA tests you can read all the comments on how disappointed they are: “hey, I’m Jewish, but it shows Ashkenazi European. How come I don’t have any Middle Eastern in my profile?” These are common questions.
What’s even more nefarious, probably coming from people like you, is there are some Jewish groups, and individuals, trying to coerce these reputable DNA labs to put down Middle East in any Jews DNA profile. So, who’s the liar?
I’d believe anything you posted just as I’d believe some Democrat on some “study” on climate change. You have zero credibility. You’re an atheist.