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After a federal judge issued a ruling ordering the federal government to stop “specifically flagging content or posts on social-media platforms and/or forwarding such to social-media companies urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner for removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech.”
The lefty censorship lobby responded with pages of unhinged hysteria that failed to address the issue.
Conservatives were repeatedly accused of trafficking in false conspiracy theories to achieve this outcome. But if so, then why worry about the verdict? If the Biden administration isn’t actively urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing social media firms in any manner for removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech, what could the problem possibly be?
Secondly, lefties and their media claimed that barring the government from advocating censorship was interfering in its free speech.
Here’s the government-funded NPR complaining that, “the government’s ability to fight disinformation online has suffered a legal setback that experts say will have a chilling effect on communications between federal agencies and social media companies.”
A chilling effect generally applies to government suppression of speech, not the suppression of government censorship.
“It’s hard to think of a more sweeping ruling,” says Evelyn Douek, an expert on the regulation of online speech and a professor at Stanford Law School.
“The injunction enjoins tens of thousands, maybe hundred [of] thousands of federal government employees from having almost any kind of communication with private platforms about content on their services,” Douek tells NPR. She notes that while there are exceptions for certain types of criminal content, overall, the “clear message is to have this sort of chilling effect on communication between the government and platforms.”
Actually, it’s pretty clear about what government employees can and can’t do. They can do most things like send a pineapple to Facebook by courier or ask it to remove pro-ISIS propaganda, what they can’t do is “specifically flagging content or posts on social-media platforms and/or forwarding such to social-media companies urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner for removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech.”
Pretty clear.
The term ‘Orwellian’ gets thrown around far too much but here the Left has decided to argue that preventing government employees from censoring people has a chilling effect on their speech. One wonders what the old ACLU or any 1960s liberal would have made of that argument.
Big Tech used a variation of this argument to Florida bans on internet censorship, but the government doesn’t even have a platform. It and its allies are fighting for the right to go censorsing.
Algorithmic Analyst says
Good one Daniel. That fits in with my theory that the leaders need a dissenters channel. When they only get one view, the views of their sycophants, the end is likely to be disaster, as with Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, caused by his sycophants painting a false picture for him. But that is what the government is trying to do by censoring conservatives, to only allow the voices of their sycophants to be heard.
CowboyUp says
“Sycophants,” I just used that term in my response to the article before this one. Weird, but good points.
Ugly Sid says
Leftist stationary stores do a substantial trade in disappearing ink.
The Leftist clientele use it to prepare documents memorializing their long term commitments.
Jeff Bargholz says
They also slap each other’s asses with joy buzzers and dig it.
Taylor says
O/T:
Did you see this, Jeff? I told you the other day that it was happening. It will grow.
Jeff Bargholz says
Yeah, I saw that on TV. Christine is an intelligent hotty.
Jeff Bargholz says
And yes, opposition to warped tranny tyranny is one of the few things Christians and moslems can agree on.
Greg says
Joe Bite-Me, the Democ-rat’s demented figurehead, is the perfect emblem of a speechless America, where seldom is heard an encouraging word and the skies are not cloudy all day. That is, no one dares speak of the cloudy skies for fear of the dreaded F.B.I. Gestapo, enforcers of a Democ-rat speech code which deems all that it dislikes (and therefore prohibits) as Russian disinformation that does the bidding of Leo Tolstoy. Right now, the F.B.I. Gestapo probably has a F.I.S.A. warrant naming every American, filed in alphabetical order, waiting for an offending word– like “Stop The Steal”– to trigger an arrest. Want proof? Ask any of the J6 defendants now rotting in a D.C. jail for having the temerity to utter in unison: “Stop The Steal!”
CowboyUp says
“All that is not forbidden is mandatory,” comes to mind.
Del Varner says
A couple of thoughts:
1) To fight disinformation shutdown NPR. I’m sure Soros and his allied foundations have enough money to keep it going.
2) How will the judgement be enforced? Democrat Attorneys General seem to pick and choose which laws they will enforce.
Kasandra says
The Left, most certainly including the government supported NPR are ludicrous. First, EVEN if posts were “untrue” the government has no legal authority to censor them. Didn’t these people ever take a civics course? Second, they ignore that government agencies are free to put out contrary information if something posted online bothers them. What the government can’t do itself or through an agent is censor information it doesn’t like or disagrees with. Third, not that it matters but much of the censored material was factually true. These people have zero regard for our Constitutional system and, indeed, want to destroy it.
Floyd Looney says
The government is appealing this ruling. Meanwhile saying they didn’t censor anyone. wow.
Jeff Bargholz says
Those Dirtbagocrat scum would say left is right and the sun rises in the West with a straight face. No lie is too ridiculous for them.
CowboyUp says
What was it, 20 years ago the dems were pitching fits because Bush was wanting to set up a propaganda operation directed overseas during a shooting war. Now look at ’em go not only are they into official executive branch propaganda ops, directed at Americans, they want to shadow sensor opposing domestic speech.
Mickorn says
The question, obviously, is whether the government should be allowed to work on censoring content that is maliciously spreading falsehoods that clearly harm individuals.
For instance, the lies propagated on this forum (and many others) regarding the effectiveness of COVID vaccines directly harms the people who believe them. Almost 90% of COVID fatalities since 2021 were unvaccinated.
For better or worse, propagating lies is, by and large, protected by the First Amendment. So it is very much an open question whether the federal government should be pressuring Twitter or Instagram to refrain from propagating malicious, harmful lies.
Obviously, someone like Daniel Greenfield, who makes a living maliciously propagating harmful lies, would try to oversimplify an issue that is very much not simple.
Greg says
Stop The Steal.
Jeff Bargholz says
The question, obviously, is whether the government should be able to maliciously spread falsehoods that clearly harm individuals and censor the truth in violation of the first amendment and countless other laws.
For instance, the lies propagated by the government regarding the efficacy of dangerous Chines covid drugs, which are NOT vaccines. According to the ever reliable CDC, 98% of deaths attributed to Chinese covid were actually caused by comorbidities and the vast majority of dead had been “immuynized,” often multiple times.
For better or worse, propagating lies is by and large protected by the first amendment, And the Dirtbagocrats do so non stop. So it is very much an open question whether or not the federal government should be pressuring Twitter and Instagram to censor the truth and propagate malicious and harmful Dirtbagocrat, left-wing lies.
Obviously, a Dirtbagocrat operative troll like you, Dickorn, makes an ill begotten living propagating hurtful lies and tries to obfuscate simple truths.
The only question is how many times you’ve taken it up the ass today.
Ugly Sid says
I am curious about the purported vaccine. I was as Polio Pioneer in third grade. We beta tested the Salk vaccine. That actually was a vaccine. Not a billionaire creating hoax based upon ex cathedra assertions, tort liability exemptions, contra Constatutional mandates, prevarication and censorship.
If I can entertain the words of RFK, Jr, I can entertain yours.
Have you anything to share?
Daniel Greenfield says
Is the First Amendment very much an open question?
Or is that one of the malicious, harmful lies you insist on spreading?
Kit_Jefferson says
Liberal Democrats are simply following in the footsteps of the Greek Sophists.
Jeff Bargholz says
They’re trying their best but they have no skill.
Christopher Robert Riddle says
SO,Preventing Government”Censorship”is”Censoring”????????????????????
Taylor says
Really, Daniel? Well, how about the Facebook oversight board…do you think they have anything to do with the problem? Who is the head of the board? What’s his name? What far away little country is he from?
Jeff Bargholz says
Probably Buttfuckistan or Eatshitistan.
Mark Matis says
Merely the way of the Jews as they yearn for the “good old days” of their Messiahs – Lenin and Stalin.
They have fond memories of Pravda, Tass, and Izvestia!
Jeff Bargholz says
You need a frontal lobotomy, STAT.
Mark Matis says
And you need a Jewotomy!
Jeff Bargholz says
Sez the guy who nibbles dicks on street corners. Just how low can you go? I bet you creep around public bathrooms and flash to to school children. Salad tosser.