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[Make sure to read Daniel Greenfield’s contributions in Jamie Glazov’s new book: Barack Obama’s True Legacy: How He Transformed America.]
We’re in a war between savages and civilization. Everything else is a detail.
Some of us woke up to that war when planes crashed into skyscrapers. Others when we saw beheading videos spread across social media. What we saw in Israel, Hamas terrorists raping, mutilating and defiling corpses, is another bloody wake-up call. There will be many others.
Beyond the politics and the geopolitics, we still haven’t come to terms with what we’re fighting.
The barbarism of murdering women and children, taking them as hostages, and posting photos of their dead bodies to social media, is not a byproduct of Islamic warfare, it’s the whole point.
Cruelty, beheading, burning to death, torturing and mutilating are the essence of Islam. This is how Islamic warfare was practiced beginning with Mohammed for over a thousand years. It’s how it continues to be practiced, whether it’s ISIS fighting other Muslims, Azerbaijani troops killing Armenians, Hamas attacking Israelis, or Islamic terrorists plotting carnage in Western nations.
Islam was born out of a war by barbarians against the civilized societies of Persia and Byzantium. Despite academic mythmaking, its vision never extended beyond rape and slavery, its empires fell into power struggles, beginning with Sunnis and Shiites, and its cultural and scientific accomplishments were all looted from conquered peoples. When civilization finally toppled the Ottoman Empire with some help from its internal barbarians, the cycle began again.
Israel is just one front in a global war between savages and civilization. And not all of the savages bow to Allah. There are inner city gangs across the American hemisphere that behead and torture their victims. And there are children of civilization that turn into savages. Savagery is not a condition of birth: it is a choice. People born into savagery can become civilized and those born into the highest echelons of civilization can prey on us like the worst vicious animals.
The question is how do civilized societies confront savagery? Do we blame ourselves for having made the savages what they are through our capitalism and colonialism even though they have behaved this way long before modern western civilization amounted to anything? Or do we set forth to reeducate them, to build modern nations for them and teach them to become civilized?
We have sent forth our sons and daughters to make peace with them and to educate them. Our societies opened themselves to embrace and celebrate the virtues of the noble savage. When we realized that we could not coexist with savages, we tried to remake our societies to serve them. All of that has been tried and civilization is still drowning in the violence of the savages.
The fundamental truth is that civilization and savagery are innately at war with one another.
Savages are offended by the existence of civilization. When they see one, they want to destroy it. There can be no peace with savages because, contrary to Islam, peace is a condition of civilization. To have peace, you must be civilized. Savages don’t even view peace as a value apart from the conclusion of a successful conquest which then sets the stage for the next one.
Civilized people develop complex mechanisms of exchange, but savages see no reason why they shouldn’t take something or someone if they are too weak to defend themselves. No amount of lectures will ever convince a savage that anything other than clan relations should prevent him from stealing a car or raping a woman if there will be no clear consequences.
That’s because savages, unlike civilized people, have no conscience, and therefore no soul.
Islam, unlike Judaism and Christianity, is not a religion of the soul, but entirely of power. From its genocidal chant, “Allahu Akbar” that proclaims the physical supremacy of Allah to all other religions through the military victories of its followers, everything is reduced to conquest. The truth of Islam is validated through war. When Jihadists conquer and rape non-Muslims, they are proving that Islam is true and that the religions of the conquered are false. That’s why ISIS Jihadists would tell the Yazidi girls they were raping that rape brought them “closer to Allah”
Civilizations have become too sophisticated and decadent to understand such concepts. When faced with barbarism, they go down a dialectic rabbit hole that explains the savages in terms of how civilized people interacted with them. Did they hurt their feelings, overthrow their governments or draw mean cartoons? Did capitalism leave them adrift in the world economy? How did we fail to integrate the newest generation of immigrants with all the welfare checks?
These sophomoric sessions are pointless. A hyena doesn’t eat your chickens because you failed to integrate it. That’s just what hyenas do. Man at the base state is a predator and savages strive to be the alpha predators. Civilizations become superior predators because they provide room for arts and sciences, because they think about something other than how they are superior to their neighbors and will prove it by killing their sons and raping their daughters.
But when civilizations spend too much time thinking, they forget that one reason they came into being was to build something better than a state of savagery. Decadent civilizations internalize all the criticism and their peoples endlessly quarrel and think that the worst possible things in the world are the ones that exist among their own people. Savages remind us otherwise.
Much like a hurricane reminds us of the alternative to houses and famine reminds us of the alternative to food, savages remind us of the alternative to civilization. Unfortunately truly decadent civilizations need constant reminders of all of these things. We have to be constantly told that food doesn’t magically emerge from a supermarket, that houses are not the natural state of being and that not being murdered by savages in your home is a new way of life.
Tolerate savages, give them enough rope and they will do all of these things to you. And more.
Savagery should not be confused with stupidity. Civilizations have been brought down by savages and civilizations were built by savages who became civilized. Savages are clever and cunning. They are alert to the weaknesses of civilized people and experts at finding ways around whatever walls and security systems that civilized people build to protect themselves.
Civilizations that spend enough time allowing savages to hang around will fall. Tolerating savages is actually a sign that a civilization has turned decadent. Welcoming and advocating for savages means that the end is nigh. Viable civilizations drive savages away. They do it not just to protect themselves but because banishing savages is what makes a civilization civilized.
When civilizations forget what the difference between themselves and the savages are, they lose their sense of right and wrong, and they can no longer explain why savagery is wrong. When faced with the worst imaginable crimes, they can still equivocate a case for the criminals.
Hamas terrorists can rape and kill their victims, and defenders will rally to explain why the issue is actually more complicated than it seems. This happens with Islamic terrorists all the time.
Savages and decadent civilizations have no firm concept of right and wrong. Everything is subjectively opportunistic and there can be scenarios in which raping a woman, killing her and then posting a photo of her body to social media so her family can see is actually right.
That is why civilization has to defeat savagery, without equivocation, apologies or sympathy, not only to win, but to revive its own soul. Negotiations and laws of war are for peer civilization. Savages offer nothing and so are owed nothing. They keep no agreements except when it suits them. Their word is worthless and their morality is non-existent.
A civilization that does not understand all this will learn it the hard way.
Civilizations are built on the suppression of savagery: both internally and externally.. When civilizations defeat savages, learning, art, science and ideas thrive. And when civilizations allow savages to ravage them, they lose their people, their morality and eventually their existence.
No form of war is more sacred than that of civilization against savagery. It is these wars that made Christianity and Judaism, not to mention all the ideas of western civilization, as well as those of Asia and India, possible. This is once again the defining struggle of our age.
Either civilization or the savages will prevail. Any attempt at a middle ground is suicide.
Our grandchildren will either make great things or they will be hunted by roaming savages like the teenage girls at a concert in Israel or those similarly hunted in venues in Europe.
All the hopes of mankind depend on the utter and total defeat of the savages, not just in Israel, but in America, in Europe, in India and Asia, and around the world. This is not the struggle of any single nation, but the crisis of mankind. Either humanity will rise or we will fall.
Una Salus says
Dennis Prager had a guest on his show discussing what I think he termed the concept of “concepsia” in Israel which in practical terms came down to the old fashioned practice of buying security from the crazy neighbours.
This is all very nice and I suppose it speaks well of how finely adjusted people are to their beautiful way of life but the reality is this pleasant myopia gets people killed.
Raymond in DC says
That’s not how I understood “conceptsia”. The term was in use in the aftermath of the Yom Kippur War, to describe the generally held (mis)perceptions about the intentions and capabilities of Israel’s neighbors. “Israel has shown itself strong,” they told themselves, “Egypt and Syria could never challenge us.” Then they did.
Among the parallels with 1973, many in the Israeli security sector have operated for many years under new widely held (mis)perceptions: that Israeli defenses – fences and anti missile systems – would suffice to deter; that the enemy lacks the capability to challenge Israel’s defenses; that the enemy is satisfied with small or pyhric victories, that it’s training and exercises are just for show or for morale. The best and brightest in military intelligence were fooled, defeated by psychological warfare and their own false thinking.
Similar thinking was evident some years ago when many in the security establishment thought Israel could “do a deal” with Syria, even ceding back the Golan heights. Even at the time, to many of us it was madness. So too the “peace proposals” of a prominent group of former security people, the outline of which is so convoluted, so presumptuous of the Palestinian capabilities and intentions, so reliant on a complex of security systems, it boggles the mind.
Joe Esposito says
These savages love death more than we love life.
This must change.
If it doesn’t with an open border these savages are most likely
planning an attack on the American homeland.
Our so called leaders are concerned with gender and race and not security.
We better wake up or we won’t have a civilized society any longer.
internalexile says
Wasn’t the original Ayatollah Khomeini once quoted as saying “The Americans worship Coca-Cola. We worship death.” i think I am remembering that correctly.
Chief Mac says
I accept their demands and endeavor to aid them in the fulfillment of their desire
CowboyUp says
They want to die, we want to live. We can both get what we want. They can be with allah and their 72 man hating virgin bulldykes, with huge strapons, and we can stay here and live. We should oblige them, and send them on their unholy way.
Semaphore says
I thought that in Islam sacrificing one’s life to spread the faith was instant sainthood. These folks are not just savage, they’re nuts!
Ann says
The only guarantee of Paradise for a male Muslim is to die while waging jihad. The only guarantee for a female Muslim is if her husband is satisfied with her at the time of her death.
Andrew Blackadder says
These people are mucking futs and not just nuts and savage.
Tmcgoe says
More than likely planning an attack? Lol, you people finally figured out you’ve been invaded for 35 years? You will never do what needs to be done because you’re cowards. Too late. It’s over.
S H Cohen says
When ISIS took over much of Iraq…only a few years back…they massacred those who they did not like…they massacred the Yezedis…and enslaved their women and children. ..cut off people’s heads…Islamists have been behaving like this for a long time…in Africa…the Middle East. and elsewhere…their brutality and supremacist death cult mentality is appalling. We now see outbreaks of this same mentality in Western Europe…Australia…Indonesia…Scandinavia and elsewhere. Hamas are no different…a nihilist death cult…they behave like animals…the rest of the world is only slowly waking up to these Islamist types and their bestial behaviour… to which no tolerance whatsoever should given….this is probably the results of many years of first cousins marrying first cousins…consanguinity…alas these Islamists from any logical perspective…have something seriously wrong with them…that goes beyond mere hatred…years of inbreeding has created a large Islamic grouping of mental defectives…
Canadian Friend says
Every time a horrific event wakes up some of the world to what the savages are, the Main Stream Media hurry up and shows a lot of photos and videos of nice, polite, friendly, clean educated smiling muslims.
Same with blacks, they now commit 30 % more crimes than a couple years ago so the MSM make them appear in 90% of tv ads as the nicest people there is,
Actually it is more than just the MSM, it is big tech, social media, Hollywood, Netflix, it is everything run by liberals ( with help from fake conservatives)
every time people show signs of waking up, they quickly put them back to sleep with propaganda and the most sophisticated gas lighting this world has ever seen.
and it works every freakin time
Give it a few days or weeks and people will be more worried about the ” backlash” against Palestinians and Muslims and migrants than about the raped and beheaded innocent people and their loved ones who will have nightmares for the rest of their life.
Canadian Friend says
and it has already begun!
They are already putting back to sleep the sheep
John Kirby ; “Palestinians are victims too! ”
Cat says
If thats what they love, lets not hesitate to provide them with lots of love.
Victor Hafichuk says
You’re right, Joe. But am I right to point out that our so-called leaders aren’t concerned in our security, only theirs, neither in gender and race because they are the enemy camp. Aren’t they the civilized savages David is identifying?
“Civilizations have been brought down by savages and civilizations were built by savages who became civilized.”
We need only take an honest look and make an honest assessment of those in charge of the western nations today, not to mention others.
JtB says
Golda Meir said that in the 1970’s. P mothers will offer their children as sacrifices to Allah. How sick can you get.
Algorithmic Analyst says
Thanks Daniel, excellent points!
I’ve been thinking a lot about that dichotomy (savages vs civilization) during my current reading about Africa in the 1800s. It sharpens my view about what is the nature of the outside world.
Jan van Zyl says
Africa in the 1800’s? Try South Africa in 2023 when the leaders are toi toiing singing kill the boer.. Yet INS does not accept that as a basis for asylum as the applicant was not personally targeted.
The civilized press does not report on these matters presumably it would expose the failure of their experiment of giving a first world country to the savages.
Raymond in DC says
In the aftermath of 9/11, Wafa Sultan (among others) was discussing the issue of barbarism vs civilization. Savages are individuals, but barbarism is a broader culture, one of depravity and a lack of morality, an indifference to the wellbeing of others, a cult of death and power.
THX 1138 says
“No form of war is more sacred than that of civilization against savagery. It is these wars that made Christianity and Judaism, not to mention all the ideas of western civilization, as well as those of Asia and India, possible. This is once again the defining struggle of our age.”
No mention that the cradle of Western Civilization is Ancient Greece not Judaism or Christianity. Christianity gave the West the one thousand years of brutality and stagnation known as the Dark and Middle Ages. Christians persecuted, tortured, brutalized, and made war with each other and against the Jews for centuries.
It is not Moses or Jesus on which reason, logic, science, technology, and Capitalism ultimately rest but on the philosophy of Aristotle.
“Ancient Greece tore away the heavy shroud of mysticism woven for centuries in murky temples, and achieved, in three centuries, what Egypt had not dreamed of in thirty: a civilization that was essentially pro-man and pro-life. The achievements of the Greeks rested on their confidence in the power of man’s mind—the power of reason. For the first time, men sought to understand the causes of natural phenomena, and gradually replaced superstition with the beginnings of science. For the first time, men sought to guide their lives by the judgment of reason, instead of resorting exclusively to divine will and revelation.
The Greeks built temples for their gods, but they conceived of their gods as perfect human beings, rejecting the cats, crocodiles and cow-headed monstrosities enshrined and worshiped by the Egyptians. Greek gods personified abstractions such as Beauty, Wisdom, Justice, Victory, which are proper human values. In the Greek religion, there was no omnipotent mystical authority and no organized priesthood. The Greek had only a vague idea of, and little interest in, an afterlife.” – Mary Ann Sures
Intrepid says
I’m trying to figure out which came first, the ham-handed know nothing faux elitist jerk, or the ham-handed know nothing faux elitist Objectivist.
I’m trying to figure out what the Greeks have to do with the Jihadi attack on Israel. I doubt you even know. you simply need a platform to promote that moronic philosophy of yours.
Greek philosophy, your foundation and bedrock of the rational and scientific beginnings and aspects of Western Civilization, folded like a cheap suit in the face of the spread of Christianity, which absorbed the teachings of your pagan heroes. Without Christianity Greek history would resemble those ruins that everyone takes selfies at. Without Christianity no one would remember or care about the Greeks or their fragile democracy. But those Greeks sure knew how to diddle little boys, didn’t they.
This article is not about the Greeks or that massive faux messiah like ego of yours.
And of course, not one word about the Hamas attack on Israel from you. I guess that pro jihad mentality of yours is beginning to leech out.
THX 1138 says
The vast majority of your fellow Lutherans were staunch supporters of Adolf Hitler. The Lutherans were no better than the Muslims in their Jew hatred!
Devout Christianity did not stop your hero Martin Luther from being a RABID Jew hater! On the contrary it was BECAUSE Martin Luther was such a devout Christian that he hated the Jews for rejecting Christianity!
“Religious writers often claim that the cause of Nazism is the secularism or the scientific spirit of the modern world. This evades the fact that the Germans at the time, especially in Prussia, were one of the most religious peoples in Western Europe; that the Weimar Republic was a hotbed of mystic cults, of which Nazism was one; and that Germany’s largest and most devout religious group, the Lutherans, counted themselves among Hitler’s staunchest followers….
There was also Martin Luther, regarded by the Nazis as a major hero, who was the greatest single power in the development of German religion and, through this means, an influence on the philosophies of both Kant and Hegel. Luther is anti-reason (“Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his reason”), intensely pro-German, and crudely anti-semitic (“Fie on you wherever you be, you damned Jews, who dare to clasp this earnest, glorious, consoling Word of God to your maggoty, mortal, miserly belly, and are not ashamed to display your greed so openly”). He formally enlists God on the side of the state. Unconditional obedience to the government’s edicts, he holds, is a Christian virtue. “In like manner we must endure the authority of the prince. If he misuse or abuse his authority, we are not to entertain a grudge, seek revenge or punishment. Obedience is to be rendered for God’s sake, for the ruler is God’s representative. However they may tax or exact, we must obey and endure patiently.” – Leonard Peikoff, “The Ominous Parallels: The End of Freedom In America”
Intrepid says
Ah yes, your usual fall back insult…..The Lutherans. It wasn’t effective for the last two years and it’s not effective now.
And as always you are way off topic. The article is not about you, or me, or Lutherans, Nazis (unless you consider Muslims latter day Nazis), Hegel, Kant, or your ancient friend Lenny Peekaboo.
You simply keep repeating your version of revisionist history because the reality is that you really don’t have much to say on anything. Just your usual Objectivist platitudes.
But your lies of omission tell the truth about you. It’s becoming very clear that you support the Muslim jihad. But I always had a feeling that you did, even behind your B.S. veneer
Intrepid says
Oh yeah….re: your over long post…..TLDR. Don’t care.
THX 1138 says
The article is about Civilization versus Savagery. The question to be asked and pondered is what makes men civilized and what turns them into savages?
If Christianity is the antidote to savagery it did not stop the vast majority of your fellow Lutherans from becoming Jew hating, Nazi, savages!
But as usual you won’t own the FACTUAL and ACTUAL history of your religion!
Intrepid says
I’ll never stop posting this. It’s clear you need another beatdown today.
“Daniel Greenfield says
September 29, 2023 at 9:14 pm
The idea that you and your particular belief system, for which you are an absolutely terrible representative, represent ‘reason’, is as much of a fallacy as the idea that Fauci represents science.
You are only as good as your arguments.”
You just don’t know when to quit, do you.
Louiepatti says
I am not surprised at the bigotry present in the anit-Jewish and anti-Christian comments above. It may surprise their author that it was the Christian Benedictine monks who went out and gathered up as much knowledge as they could during the collapse of pagan Rome. Rome, by the way, was the one that had Bogarted all the Greek culture, including its art, architecture, gods, and writings, when it conquered Greece. But it was the Christians who strove to preserve all of whatever knowledge there was, pagan and all, and they never tried to pass off what was pagan as their own.
So, all the Greek writings that are so evidently admired here came down through the ages via the Christians. Must be a tough thing to swallow, but it’s reality. As for the Dark and Medieval Ages, it’s a big thing to ask, but try doing some actual research instead of believing all the Enlightenment propaganda. After all, it was in the MA that the scientific method began (by Christians) and that a philosopher and theologian named Thomas Aquinas synthesized Greek thought and philosophy into Christianity, particularly Aristotle.
Christianity also gave the world hospitals, universities, the concept of guilds, and equal human rights before the law. It essentially built Western civilization.
Kynarion Hellenis says
THX says, “But as usual you won’t own the FACTUAL and ACTUAL history of your religion!”
He thinks his religion is special, but it produced the guillotine in the French revolution. He wants the same things – the abolition of social hierarchy and the exaltation of reason, freedom and equality, with no understanding of what those words mean.
Aggressive ignorance. Incurable because it strokes an idea that comforts him and exalts his mind to the place of the very definition of “Reason.” He is his own god. Believe and worship.
THX 1138 says
Aww, poor little Lutheran can’t refute the brutal history of his religion so he throws out Daniel Greenfield’s personal insult of me. Personal insults mean nothing to me. They are not rational arguments or logical refutations.
When a man can’t refute facts and when he can’t offer a rational argument he throws out personal insults.
I won’t quit, not ever. Because Objectivism is the answer if Western Civilization is to survive and thrive. And if America is to survive and thrive.
PappaWheelie says
For a clinic on fallacies including Objectivism see Dr. Jason Lisle’s The Ultimate Proof of Creation. Also recommended is his Taking Back Astronomy.
Intrepid says
“But as usual you won’t own the FACTUAL and ACTUAL history of your religion!”
When you can prove that the “The vast majority of your fellow Lutherans were staunch supporters of Adolf Hitler.” I might have something to say on the matter. And proof isn’t some B.S. article by some B.S. Objectivist. But guilt by association over something that happened some 80 years ago is not even a tactic that holds up in court. That’s what Communists and Nazis did and do.
I know who and what I am. I have supported Israel my whole life. I am a proud conservative and a patriot. I firmly believe in service to my country.
Do you know who and what you are, besides a know-nothing self-serving moron who hates everything and everyone?
*I don’t recognize any such absurdity as service to my country. I recognize a moral responsibility to my freedom and liberty and the freedom and liberty of those I love.* — THX
When you take ownership of the 100,000,000 lives murdered by atheists in the 20th C. maybe you will have some ground to stand on re: Lutherans.
You are a pathetic little man.
Mark Sochor says
You are the one that doesn’t understand history or the fallen nature of man. Good and evil are not subjective but objective. Anyone anywhere despite their title can be evil. That is the common denominator. Evil wears many faces, many guises.
Intrepid says
Guess what putz. I don’t need to refute anything re: Lutherans and Hitler. You are making an accusation, now back it up with actual facts from actual historians. You don’t have any do you. Just your little wet dream.
I will keep throwing up Greenfield’s “personal insult” to you. It must have stung. So your response is to say it means nothing to you. Personally I think you are lying, as always. It means everything to you. You are too much of a coward to respond to him. But I am not surprised. I think you are autistic. It sort of feeds that narcissistic personality of yours.
So go ahead and delude yourself that, somehow, Objectivism is the answer to what ails us. Obviously 99.9999% of people do not think it is the answer to anything. Look at what Objectivism has done to you. Just what the world needs, people like you running around giving everyone orders to be “rationally selfish”, whatever that means.
So I think you need another beatdown.
“Daniel Greenfield says
September 29, 2023 at 9:14 pm
The idea that you and your particular belief system, for which you are an absolutely terrible representative, represent ‘reason’, is as much of a fallacy as the idea that Fauci represents science.
You are only as good as your arguments.”
You are just too stupid to quit, aren’t you.
Cheryl Danver says
Ah yes…..the reason Leftists hate Christianity: they could not use it to bring down the Kings they desperately wanted to replace with their own despots and economic system that caters to losers.
Victor Hafichuk says
Wolves in sheep’s clothing, if that.
Algorithmic Analyst says
What pains me the most is his using Aristotle, who he doesn’t understand, to make it seem like he knows what he is talking about.
Intrepid says
I’m reminded of what Ronald Reagan said about Liberals: “The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
THX thinks he knows everything about everything because he read it in an Objectivist book somewhere. In fact he knows tee tee, very little. He just makes up stuff as he needs to.
One of his problems is he forgets from one day to the next what he wrote the day before, which is why he depends on those note cards for copying and pasting.
Down Easter says
The Dark Ages were caused by the 536 AD supervolcano.
Nikolaos Halkides says
You can be forgiven for repeating, in a double sense, the mistakes of Ayn Rand, who possessed a much greater intellect than yours, but you cannot be forgiven for your tiresome rants berating the rest of humanity for not abandoning religion (note that Islam is not a religion) and adopting Objectivism. In this you sound very much like that ninny Peikoff, whose intellect was also much inferior to Rand’s.
The savages here may be post-Christian chronologically but they are pre-Christian ideologically. Also, they don’t happen to be Lutherans, who seem to be your personal whipping boys.
By all means, head on over to Gaza and try to civilize these savages by turning them into modern-day worshippers of Zeus, and see how far you get. Meanwhile, the rest of us will try to save Western civilization, an effort that will not include either paganism (which didn’t last) or objectivism (which has never caught on, in case you haven’t noticed, meaning that it must have some shortcomings).
Intrepid says
Thank you sir. So much more erudite than I could have said. I hope he has the stones to respond to you. But don’t hold your breath.
Kynarion Hellenis says
You are still on point, Intrepid. Your tirelessness is your strength.
Intrepid says
Thank you. He’s in rare form today. Now he is trying to convince us of his love and support for Jews and Israel.
After years of Jew bashing, Judaism bashing and Israel bashing he finally got nailed today.
It is exceeded only by his Christian bashing. But he is going very soft on Islam.
I hope you saw the beatdown he got from Greenfield on the 29th of Sept. I posted it here on this thread today. I will continue to post it.
Cheryl Danver says
Humans go to war for two reasons only: for power – either over their own lives, or the lives of others; and possession – land and resources. It might be dressed up as a war of religion or a war of patriotism, or a war for “liberation”, but it’s all basically the same thing.
The irreligious devalue religion and don’t see it as a basic right of human expression because it isn’t based on something that can be measured or proven by scientific theory, or put under a microscope. Therefore, anyone who fights to retain their right to practice their faith is seen as a barbaric monster, while those who fight against economic oppression (real or perceived) are heroes. Sandinistas and Spanish Republicans and even the Vietcong under Ho Chi Minh are admired by the same people who will look down their noses at armies clashing over religious rights.
Well, contrary to the usual propaganda from pagans and anti-theists, according to the Encyclopedia of Wars, most wars fought in this World’s history were not religious, and even some religious wars were not purely religious in nature.
You play the same tired tune over and over, and the haters will ALWAYS believe you.
Lightbringer says
Greek gods were overgrown adolescents with insatiable appetites. Not exactly a great start for morality.
BubbaJr says
Thank you Daniel for distilling our current international emergency into focused actionable terms.
Western culture is indeed at an inflection point when we either rise & eliminate the uncivilized savages or suffer the consequences of dithering while Rome burns.
Mickorn says
What “focused actionable terms”? Seems to me he is calling for the extermination of all Muslims from the face of the Earth. This is actionable?
Nikolaos Halkides says
No one here, and certainly not Daniel, has called for Muslim extermination as far as I know. Daniel merely observed that devout Muslims cannot be integrated into civilized society because Islam equals continual savagery and imperialism, and called for their defeat, not extermination.
My view is that we should confine Islam to the Middle East, where it will continue to plague the region with constant warfare and misery until such time as it either dies out, if we have the wisdom to cut it off from the benefits of Western technology, or until it is on the threshold of deploying WMD against us, at which time it will become necessary to destroy it.
Intrepid says
From a Jewish perspective I would call it “actionable”. Personally I would like to see Gaza resemble Berlin in 1945.
As always, you are our rezidentura useful idiot.
Eva says
I’m with you.
Except I believe there shouldn’t be a single moslem left in all of Israel when this is over.
Gaza should be retaken and repopulated by Jews, and turned back into the beautiful place it was before 2005.
Lightbringer says
Absolutely. No Muslim should be allowed to reside in or even visit Israel, ever again.
As to the Temple Mount, when the Israelis took it in 1967 the Lubavitcher Rebbe said, “Blow it up.” But no, the Israelis, especially those enlightened leftist Israelis typified by Moshe Dyan, turned it over to the Muslims just to show how nice the Jews were. Brilliant.
Well, it’s never too late to follow the advice of the Rebbe.
dani says
go spend a few weeks in the gaza cesspool , putz – and bring some gay friends – they’ll have a swinging time
sumsrent says
And yet… most of the media say it’s Iran… when we clearly saw satanic worshiping muslims celebrating all over the world…
Una Salus says
It’s the only thing that unites them.
David Ray says
Every time some liberal idiot like Yitzhak Rabin gives land away for peace,it reminds me of a sage observation from Winston Churchill:
“My country had a choice between shame & war. They chose shame, but they will reap war.”
Chamberlain demonstrated the folly of appeasement: liberals, unable to learn, still can’t grasp that simple fact.
(If you want peace, prepare for war. Brute force is the only language that the feral animals understand.)
cedar9 says
We are eons past the liberal want and are now in their spawns grasps. Dictators tyrants and barbarians and yes brute force is the only reply.
Taylor says
Ariel Sharon gave away Gaza.
I want my country back! says
Doesn’t matter who gave it away. Did they do it to secure “peace” or to welcome that which we are seeing today. If the so-called Palestinians had not been offered an olive branch, it’s Israel that would be blamed. We now know without doubt who is the victim and who is the aggressor, despite statements to the contrary. Appeasement doesn’t work, but it makes things very clear to anyone willing to see truth. It’s the people of Gaza who will now pay the price for their stupidity and the treachery of their chosen government. Give ‘em Hell Israel!!!
Peggy says
I think this by far is one of your finest pieces Daniel… thank you.
Carolyn says
A giant mass deportation movement is in order. I have a genius idea of each culture having its own country. Let’s try that! The US needs to deport millions and severely curtail any and all immigration. The only nation’s we should prioritize are South Africa (for people from similar, functioning backgrounds), Zimbabwe, the Angloshere in general (real citizens of these places) and others such as non-woke Irish, Dutch farmers being removed from their land.
I’m so sick of seeing America take in the worst and having them feed off of us. It’s time we got to be a real virtuous country again with people who look and act like our original settlers.
Instead, those people are being abused and castigated. It’s sick.
David Ray says
You have a point.
The Tsarnaev brothers got welfare the month they set foot in Boston.
(Perhaps if the FBI thought they were Tea Party members, they’d have taken the investigation into their jihad posts more seriously.)
Lightbringer says
I don’t care what Americans look like, I care what they think like. That’s the only thing that matters. And yes, Boer farmers ought to have a place here, as should their Dutch distant cousins. While we’re at it, let’s kick out the Chinese farms and make Bill Gates sell his huge amounts of American agricultural land in small parcels, to farmers.
Jason P says
There was a quote of Ayn Rand that Pamela Geller used in her masthead. The quote, circa 1974: “When you have civilized men fighting savages, you support the civilized men, …”
Daniel gives a tour-de-force defense of civilization in its struggle against barbarianism. Bruce Bawer broached the topic a few days ago. FPM is right on target & forceful.
THX 1138 says
Ayn Rand on Israel (Ford Hall Forum lecture, 1974)
Q: What should the United Sates do about the [1973] Arab-Israeli War?
AR: Give all the help possible to Israel. Consider what is at stake. It is not the moral duty of any country to send men to die helping another country. The help Israel needs is technology and military weapons—and they need them desperately. Why should we help Israel? Israel is fighting not just the Arabs but Soviet Russia, who is sending the Arabs armaments. Russia is after control of the Mediterranean and oil. Further, why are the Arabs against Israel? (This is the main reason I support Israel.)
The Arabs are one of the least developed cultures. They are typically nomads. Their culture is primitive, and they resent Israel because it’s the sole beachhead of modern science and civilization on their continent. When you have civilized men fighting savages, you support the civilized men, no matter who they are. Israel is a mixed economy inclined toward socialism. But when it comes to the power of the mind—the development of industry in that wasted desert continent—versus savages who don’t want to use their minds, then if one cares about the future of civilization, don’t wait for the government to do something. Give whatever you can. This is the first time I’ve contributed to a public cause: helping Israel in an emergency.
“Ayn Rand on Israel and the Middle East”
Jason P says
Rand’s support if Israel, a nation founded by socialists supported by socialists and still socialist at that point, shocked libertarians. She made that important distinction between civilization and savages–as an essential point. Few did then & now.
I remember during the oil embargo when she said on Phil Donoghue that the Arabs are savages who sold the oil industry that we in the west created & we should take it back. The audience was aghast. And shocked libertarians.
Nikolaos Halkides says
THX1138 – you’ll note that Rand did not (a) fail to support Israel, as you seem to be doing, or (b) blame Christians in general or Lutherans in particular for the backwardness and savagery of Arab culture, in which tribalism and Islam mutually reinforce one another.
That’s a clue, son – Islam is inherently collectivist, while Christianity respects the value of every individual human life, a crucial distinction I believe Rand might well have made had she lived longer. You might try making it yourself.
Taylor says
That Islam is tribalist–as is Judaism–isnt the problem. The problem is that Islam a. makes universalist claims and, b. that it imposes itself on anyone outside of itself via violence.
THX 1138 says
I fully support Israel, nowhere in any of my comments is it implied that I do not
My argument began by pointing out that Western Civilization (the rational, scientific, technological, capitalist aspects of Western Civilization) are the product of the philosophy of the Ancient Greek Pagan Aristotle.
Christianity in its pure form is just as collectivist and theocratic as Islam. Christianity “respects” the value of every individual human life only within the context of Christianity. The individual that does not convert to Christianity is damned, damned by God to Eternal Hell. According to Christianity only the man who accepts Jesus as his savior is saved, all others are damned. Not exactly the definition of SECULAR respect. Or secular freedom.
“The early Christians did contribute some good ideas to the world, ideas that proved important to the cause of future freedom. I must, so to speak, give the angels their due. In particular, the idea that man has a value as an individual — that the individual soul is precious — is essentially a Christian legacy to the West; its first appearance was in the form of the idea that every man, despite Original Sin, is made in the image of God (as against the pre-Christian notion that a certain group or nation has a monopoly on human value, while the rest of mankind are properly slaves or mere barbarians). But notice a crucial point: this Christian idea, by itself, was historically impotent. It did nothing to unshackle the serfs or stay the Inquisition or turn the Puritan elders into Thomas Jeffersons. Only when the religious approach lost its power — only when the idea of individual value was able to break free from its Christian context and become integrated into a rational, secular philosophy — only then did this kind of idea bear practical fruit.
What — or who — ended the Middle Ages? My answer is: Thomas Aquinas, who introduced Aristotle, and thereby reason, into medieval culture. In the thirteenth century, for the first time in a millennium, Aquinas reasserted in the West the basic pagan approach.” – Leonard Peikoff, “Religion versus America”
Intrepid says
Cut the crap. Your condemnation of Netanyahu implies that you do. Your bashing of Judaism implies that you do.
Just the other day you were whining about how Israel is supplying water and electricity to Gaza.
Just the other day you were whining about how Netanyahu has been appeasing Hamas
But hey nice try. So now you love the Jews and Israel because you have been backed into a corner because of your hatred of religion and Judaism. You are the worst kind of opportunistic hypocrite.
Intrepid says
Nobody cares what Ayn Rand had to say about Israel 50 years ago.
We live in a much different time now. It was way less fashionable to be anti-semitic in the ’70s. But things started changing after the 6 Day War. No one liked those “upstart Jews” kicking Arab tail. The new anti-semitism was spearheaded by losers like Vanessa Redgrave dancing around Muslim terrorists with an AK-47 over her head.
The only reason you are on the “I support Israel” bandwagon today is because you got nailed today and because of your endless “rational selfishness” and your equally endless religious bigotry.
Kynarion Hellenis says
“People born into savagery can become civilized and those born into the highest echelons of civilization can prey on us like the worst vicious animals.”
This is something I have always believed, but I question now. On an individual level, it is true. But it does not explain the behavior of blacks who have been here for many generations. A high crime map here and anywhere they live in western civilization will correspond perfectly to elevated percentages of their populations there. Poverty maps do not have such a perfect correlation – just the black race whether poor or not. I never see whites put a black on the ground and continue to smash in his skull while other whites gather around and laugh joyfully like hyenas. Blacks are a custodial race — this ugly truth confirmed over and over and over and over.
I now think savagery is our default, against which only the knowledge and worship of God mitigates. Savage peoples lost the knowledge of God shortly after departure from the ark. Only the Jews maintained it, and the peoples who became Jews or lived with or close to them were blessed.
But the Jews, having the very Presence of God among them, still made the golden calf beneath the thundering mountain, beneath the clouds enveloping Moses and shielding the Glory of God. They also have committed savagery which the Word of God faithfully records, but not nearly to the extent of the those outside of the pre-Christian, New Covenant. We gentiles, sons of Japheth, also blessed with dwelling in the tents of Shem (Gen. 9:27) have in the last 2000 years committed terrible acts as well. Psalm 53:1; Psalm 14:1-3; and Romans 3:10 – and many more passages basically affirm we humans share in a foundational, awful state without the intervention of God – Jew and gentile.
Civilization cannot exist without a closer obedience to and worship of the Lord God Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth and of all things, visible and invisible. What will Israel’s reconciliation be but life from the dead? Ezekiel 37; Romans 11:15.
That is what the world needs now – life from the dead. And I think Israel is the key. I say God bless Israel, and reveal Himself to her as her King and Messiah. When that happens the whole world will experience the blessings originally given thousands of years ago to Abraham in Genesis 12: 1-3. Blessings for Israel and the whole world, without which we have no hope.
Algorithmic Analyst says
They evolved in Africa with a much different climate and environment, where those bad qualities were actually selected by evolution.
Lightbringer says
If current scientific opinion is correct we all evolved in Africa. This might be wrong — some information is surfacing to indicate that it is — but until there is a viable out-of-Europe theory it’s what we have to work with.
Kynarion Hellenis says
The ark came to rest on Ararat, whose location was not in Africa. All human DNA thinned down to Noah’s family. The wives of the three sons of Noah provided the foundational genetic variations we see today, probably made more distinct when their posterity continued to spread widely, eventually forming distinct tribes and nations.
Atikva says
All this is perfectly true – except that islam is not a religion, it’s a totalitarian ideology that passes for a religion, akin to any other fascist ideology.
But enough talk. The question is: how are we going to stamp down these savages before locking them securely down in a corner of this planet so that they can destroy themselves all their heart content – and we can have some peace, at last?
Nikolaos Halkides says
“Islam is not a religion” – this cannot be repeated often enough.
Semaphore says
Islam always impressed me as a puzzlement, an eagle with two heads. When Europe was in the Dark Ages, Bagdad was a center of great learning, some say responsible for preserving what was lost in the burning of the Library of Alexandria. It gave us our modern numbering system, algebra, and an architecture well ahead of Europe. It is also the only faith that celebrates suicide, butchery, enslavement, and wife-beating. Go figure.
THX 1138 says
Aristotle is the key. Islam’s brief Golden Age was the result of the Muslim world embracing Aristotle’s phil0sophy of reason and logic. But the fundamentalist Muslims put a stop to that. They crushed the Hellenization of the Muslim world just as the Maccabees did with Judaism.
“During its Golden Age, the Muslim world, in the arts and sciences, conducted a love affair with the Greek method of observation-based rationality; but—because such method applied to life’s most fundamental questions threatened religious beliefs—could not, and, consequently, did not adopt it in philosophy. When the advocates of a faith-reason mixture lost the intellectual battle to the advocates of unadulterated faith—as, given the basic premises of each side, they had to—reason, in the Islamic world, was doomed. The tragic spectacle of a superlatively-advanced civilization crumbling into mindless irrationality is heartbreaking. It is also a cautionary tale.” – Andrew Bernstein
“Great Islamic Thinkers vs. Islam”
Intrepid says
Not another homework assignment. I’m sorry but I have some laundry to get to. Damn, another meaningless lecture I’ll have to pass up.
You do realize you are insane, T.
No one is reading your endless crap.
So let’s take stock of what means nothing to you.
1) A solid Daniel Greenfield beatdown
2) endless downvotes, consistently more than anyone else
3) The reality that no one is pay any attention to you
4) people who think you are a joke
Someday you will realize that 99.999% of people don’t want or need to be fixed according to your “principles”
Intrepid says
Wait a minute. I thought Objectivism is the key. Now you are trying to convince us that a another dead philosopher is the key.
I just can’t keep up, nor do I really want to. you know if we all sit around reading your assignments and the, sit around in study groups we will never get our laundry done.
Lightbringer says
A lot of putative Muslim innovations were Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or Zoroastrian. Don’t believe their propaganda about being innovators; they are not capable of it.
THX 1138 says
Islam is very much a religion. Religion is an early form of philosophy, a precursor to philosophy, before men had enough understanding to graduate to secular, rational, philosophy.
Islam believes in a supernatural Creator Deity, a supernatural and higher dimension that cannot be perceived by man’s natural senses nor understood by his reasoning mind. A God and a supernatural dimension that can only be accepted on faith. That is the OBJECTIVE definition of a religion by the philosophical essentials of religion.
“The Oxford English Dictionary defines “religion” as “a particular system of faith and worship,” and goes on, in part: “Recognition on the part of man of some higher unseen power as having control of his destiny, and as being entitled to obedience, reverence and worship.”
The fundamental concept here is “faith.” “Faith” in this context means belief in the absence of evidence. This is the essential that distinguishes religion from science. A scientist may believe in the entities which he cannot observe, such as atoms or electrons, but he can do so only if he can prove their existence logically, by inference from things he does observe. A religious man, however, believes in some “higher unseen power” which he cannot observe and cannot logically prove. As the whole story of philosophy demonstrates, no study of the natural universe can warrant jumping outside it to a supernatural entity. The five arguments for God offered by the greatest of all religious thinkers, Thomas Aquinas, are widely recognized by philosophers to be logically defective; they have each been refuted many times, and they are the best arguments that have ever been offered on this subject.” – Leonard Peikoff, “Religion versus America”
Taylor says
Why invest so much in assaulting peoples beliefs? You’d be far more effective taking up the cudgels for Von Misses, Ricardo, Adam Smith, etc and push for a freer–even libertarian–economic and political order.
If you cant have the whole cake, how about settling for a few slices?
THX 1138 says
Because it CAN’T be done! Laissez-Faire Capitalism isn’t simply an economic system but a philosophical and MORAL system.
Freedom, liberty, individual rights, private property rights, the pursuit of happiness are thoroughly SECULAR values for living life on earth. They cannot be defended on a religious basis but only on a secular and rational foundation.
Christianity, and by that I mean SERIOUS and pure Christianity, leads to theocracy.
“All rights rest on the ethics of egoism. Rights are an individual’s SELFISH possessions — his title to HIS life, his liberty, his property, the pursuit of his own happiness. Only a being who is an end in himself can claim a moral sanction to independent action. If man existed to serve an entity beyond himself, whether God or society, then he would not have rights, but only the duties of a servant…
The individual, says the intrinsicist who accepts rights, is God’s creation and therefore His property, not the collective’s. Such an approach implies the denial of rights: it means that only God is morally sovereign. in practice, this leads to the conclusion that man on earth may be used and disposed of by God’s representatives on earth.
No religious society has ever cherished or protected individual freedom, which is a purely secular value and achievement. Rights, contrary to a formulation common during the Enlightenment, do not derive from man’s source or “creator”. They derive from the fact of man’s existence and the requirements of his survival, however he came into being.” – Leonard Peikoff, “Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand”
Semaphore says
” “Faith” in this context means belief in the absence of evidence. ” Wait, you’re describing Democrats!
Intrepid says
Thanks for proving me correct once again. Your love for Islam while condemning Judaism and Christianity is leeching out, yet again.
Algorithmic Analyst says
First step is to stop them from immigrating here. Second step is to deport anyone of them who comes into contact with law enforcement for threatening public safety.
arnold ahlert says
The only good thing that has come out of this is the SELF-exposure of leftists all over the world who have sided with the savages. They can no longer pretend they are anything other that haters and frauds, as they either side openly with Hamas, or hide behind bankrupt calls for “measured response.” Moreover as the reliably clueless and./or utterly pathetic statements from the usual suspects reveal, anti-Semites have a home in the Democrat Party, who will expel exactly no one for siding with the savages.
Taylor says
What difference does their exposure make? No one who didn’t give a shit about Muslim barbarism before will do so now.
Go onto the comments section under the top-most article on Breitbart right now (11:00am pst) and see all of the comments about how the “claims” of beheaded babies and murdered families are lies and how, because “the Mossad had to have known what was coming” that the whole attack is a “psyop”.
Nothings changed and, save for Israel *rapidly* deposing Hamas, nothing will.
CowboyUp says
Jihadis can proudly post video of it on social media, and brag about it, and those morons will still deny it.
Hamas rounded up and executed (without trial, of course) a bunch of “collaborators,” and “spies,” over the last few months. I think they must have gotten enough of them that mossad was blinded. It looks like hamas and their allies deployed at least a brigade in the ground assault, difficult but not impossible to hide from arial surveillance. Mossad may have relied too much on their humint.
Guy Jones says
An epic essay brimming with glaring truths and facts regarding the pathology-laden and intrinsically and immutably supremacist, totalitarian, belligerent and hate-filled ideology of “Submission;” an ideology every bit as evil and irredeemable as German National Socialism.
Taylor says
Daniel is correct. However, once the initial shock has worn-off, everyone besides those who already knew Daniel was right last week, will slouch back into complaicency. As that happens, every last drop of newly discovered sympathy for Israel will disappear in a few weeks while Israel is busy cleaning up Sharons’–and Labors’– mess, with the MSM framing the stories and the photos to make Israel look like the aggressor and guilty party. As it is, go the comment sections of Gateway Pundit, Zero Hedge, even Breitbart; those guys are getting a Mia Khalifa-like sexual thrill from this.
I told myself that I would never read, leave alone post, on FPM or any other Jewish-related site, but here I am again.
Decadence is a terminal disease, but I’m trying to fight it off.
LJP says
Sad but true. I recently read that most Israeli’s have been overcome by Stockholm Syndrome and come to believe the “lies told often enough” that giving land will give them peace. I can only hope they can overcome that fallacy as the “world” will likely blame them any way they turn.
Spiritual forces at work is the most obvious reason that the chosen people suffer as they do from satan’s hatred. The prophecies of long ago prophets came true with the re-gathering of them and will also for some rough times ahead. But there is also a silver lining if you wish to learn it. Pray for the shalom of Israel.
Jan VI says
Shouldn’t “Civilizations become superior predators because…” be “Civilizations become superior TO predators because…”?
I think the USA should ban Islam. The founders didn’t have it in mind when they codified Freedom of Religion. And Islam is a murderous criminal enterprise, with a religious veneer.
RS says
Pagan barbarians have an axe to grind with free nations. They hate and are jealous of Israel because the Jews are the chosen people, and Jerusalem is God’s Holy Land and Temple. (JESUS, the Lamb of God, is fully Jewish and hes already paid the price for everyone’s sins at the cross. (He is coming again to settle the disagreements, especially in Israel. Satan wants to destroy everything that God loves, and thats why civilization and all things God created are under attack. God is coming to uphold His Kingdom, and whatever has been done to the Jewish people will be done to the enemies of Israel.
Jason P says
Read it again! It’s worth re-reading and savoring.
We’ve talked about many of the points over the decades. It’s a great summation. For example, the absurdity of unilaterally adopting the “just war theory” as a categorical imperative–which just gives savages an asymmetrical advantage and insures that they’ll use it. Without reciprocity unnecessary restraints makes no sense.
Almost every paragraph can be (and most were) articles.
Fred Middleton says
Hamas is a death cult, all they offer their people is ‘martyrdom’ – a futile death, praised because it kills Israelis. But they still have the support of the populace, it seems; when they fire thousands of rockets into Israel they scream ‘Ulla a ukbar’, then act shocked when the retaliation comes! Hamas have to be martyrized once and for all, and let the Muslims mourn them. If there is to be a humanitarian corridor let it include the Israeli hostages.
Anne says
Mr. Greenfield: Truly, one of your best pieces. You explain it all with clarity and truth. I pray the blind amongst us, begin to see.
Thank You for your words. They are harsh, real and most especially true.
Old Fogey says
The monsters who attacked Israel are following the Holy Quran to the letter.
Isabelle Scripps says
Long Live Israel.
ed says
Calling moslems savages is not an accurate description
The term moslem is much more accurate
Algorithmic Analyst says
Islam is a ‘religion’ designed to appeal to savages.
Lightbringer says
Yes. Look at all of those prison conversions among the worst, most violent offenders in this country and see whom this “religion” appeals to.
dani says
that’s why so many converts are in prisons
Lisa D Letto says
This is absolutely the best explanation of the problem possible. And simple enough to quote(which you can be sure I will)
Kit_Jefferson says
I prefer to think of Hamas as a nest of vipers who strike indiscriminately spreading their poison to any who may cross their path. You do not negotiate with such. You dispatch them forthwith.
James Watkins says
This essay is magnificent. Never have I seen this issue defined with such clarity. I am going to share it. Thank you Mr. Greenfield. My favorite lines: “Savages are offended by the existence of civilization. When they see one, they want to destroy it.” “That’s because savages, unlike civilized people, have no conscience.”
RS says
As time progresses we will see that Islam wants to be the only religion., and its not based on the One True God and creator. They want to control the world.
S H Cohen says
When ISIS took over much of Iraq…only a few years back…they massacred those who they did not like…they massacred the Yezedis…and enslaved their women and children. ..cut off people’s heads…Islamists have been behaving like this for a long time…in Africa…the Middle East. and elsewhere…their brutality and supremacist death cult mentality is appalling. We now see outbreaks of this same mentality in Western Europe…Australia…Indonesia…Scandinavia and elsewhere. Hamas are no different…a nihilist death cult…they behave like animals…the rest of the world is only slowly waking up to these Islamist types and their bestial behaviour… to which no tolerance whatsoever should given….this is probably the results of many years of first cousins marrying first cousins…consanguinity…alas these Islamists from any logical perspective…have something seriously wrong with them…that goes beyond mere hatred…years of inbreeding has created a large Islamic grouping of mental defectives…
Luli says
CNN.com – Transcripts
CNN, Oct 9, 2023
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GREENBLATT: […]
But, Kate, if I’m honest with myself and all of us, this was a moral failure. Not on the part of Israelis. On our part. Those in the West who thought dehumanizing Israelis or Zionists was just part of the culture, and that its resistance to say things like Zionism is [supposedly] genocide.
Because if you think the Israelis are committing genocide, and they are not, then it’s OK to objectify and literally steal their children and butcher their grandparents. And I say all this for the following reason. This is not just about defeating Hamas. This needs to be about eradicating an ideology that dehumanizes..
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CNN.com – Transcripts
CNN, Oct 9, 2023
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HALEVY: That’s exactly what happened in actual fact. It was not only the fact that every day many, many thousands were leaving Gaza to work in Israel. It is also a fact that Israel opened its hospitals for treatment of people in Gaza. In many cases, giving the best treatment that can be given, whether it’s in the operating room or elsewhere.
And I think that in this, Israel more or less was extending a hand to Hamas without saying it in as many words. And they, at the same time — and at the same time, as receiving all of this, they were planning something totally different and they were able to keep it secret.
Sir Peter says
These are just pious followers of the religion of peace doing exactly what their prophet told them. They should not be excoriated. They should be rewarded ASAP with 72 virgins with magical rehealing hymens. About 20 kilo tons should do it.
John says
The Political Economic Force behind all the ME policy is Protestant influence under Dispensationalists ideology.
Kathleen Bransfield says
Absolutely brilliant
Ira Edwards says
Wars in the Mideast are not caused by Israel, nor Palestinians, nor Hezbollah, nor Iranian Ayatollahs. They are caused by Islam. Unlil Western scholars, politicians and news people study and understand Islam and the Koran, they can only pander to Islam. Muslim behavior comes from Islam by intimidation. In turn, Muslims are masters at intimidation. Westerners are so intimidated that they fear even to study and learn the nature of Islam. They only know how to pander.
CowboyUp says
On point article, but I disagree with this:
“That’s because savages, unlike civilized people, have no conscience, and therefore no soul.”
They have souls, but theirs are going where the fruits of their tree determine, and it ain’t Heaven.
The people in that image were murdered, and their bodies were photographed, left on the side of the road. Hopefully, the horror the IDF saw when they retook these towns will harden them enough to do what has to be done for there to be peace. It took killing about half the Germans for them to quit, and it will probably take more to really break the will of the Gazans.
Gaza should look like Dresden or Tokyo after the allies were done with it. When Gazans are crashing the fences to Egypt to escape, Israel will know they are on the right track. None that escape should be allowed back. I don’t care if gaza is eliminated and incorporated into Israel. They lost their right to exist as a political or cultural entity.
RS says
Americans need to understand these heathens are already here that passed through our borders. (Chinese, and Islamists.). No sovereign borders anymore…..we have been breached. They will use any excuse to murder Jews, Chrisitans, or Americans. Yes, your government will not protect you, so be prepared.
Derek says
Every word and sentiment in this article is hard hitting, true and unforgettable. There is so much clarity on the current situation and errors of judgment on the part of the civilised world.
Could the author also reflect on what actionable steps an ordinary citizen ought to do in this war of civilisations. In many countries, it is forbidden even to keep any arms. When confronted, civilised people are expected to dial the police and assume that “law” would give justice. Justice is denied or delayed as civilised lawyers find ways to defend savages within the framework of laws in civilised societies. Savages are motivated by their cultish preachings of their scriptures. They are coordinated not only by a network of madarsaas that indoctrinate hate but by the disciplined rituals – the call for prayer five times a day and a collective gathering once a week are in effect serving as drills by an army of savages. They are also funded by the oil economy. They are aware of the manner the civilised society has in the past used savages to fight wars for civilised societies.
In the wake of all these facts, what should an ordinary citizen do to contribute to this war of civilisations ??