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Is there ever a legal right to defend yourself with a firearm in Los Angeles? Under no circumstances whatsoever. Even when the case is completely black and white. And there’s undeniable evidence of what actually happened. Still no.
The Nov. 6 incident happened outside Vince Ricci’s home in a Central L.A. neighborhood. His wife and 5-month-old child were reportedly inside the residence when the shootout occurred.
Ricci had just pulled into his gated driveway and was walking to the front door when masked robbers jumped over a wall.
Video shows one robber charging at Ricci with a gun as he goes to open his front door.
The homeowner immediately drops his keys and a beverage, pulls out a concealed handgun and opens fire on the intruders, who run away while returning fire.
And then the inevitable next thing happened.
A Los Angeles homeowner who exchanged gunfire with a pair of would-be robbers in a terrifying incident that was captured on home surveillance video earlier this month has had his concealed carry license suspended, officials with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department confirmed to KTLA.
You can credit Sheriff Luna for trashing the department and functioning as a perfect partner for George Gascon. Meanwhile, the robbers know that Ricci is unarmed, and every criminal in California has easy access to guns.
No licenses needed.
But it’s okay. California just needs more gun laws.
California Has More Than 100 Gun Laws. Why Don’t They Stop More Mass Shootings? – New York Times
They don’t stop crime, but they certainly stop people from defending themselves.
walt farr says
First California law requires someone applying for a CCW to go to the law enforcement agency that provides police service to his residence which would be LAPD not the sheriff. If he applied using a false address his permit would be revoked . If he moved from an address in the sheriff area into LAPD area his permit could be revoked if he did not notify the proper authority. California permits are valid for firearms that have their serial numbers listed on the permit. Carrying any other firearm can get you prosecuted and/or your permit revoked. Rules that you agree to when applying for your permit.
I call BS that his permit was revoked for yelling. Since the shooting occurred in LAPD area they are going to do an investigation. If he doesnt cooperate in the investigation his permit can be revoked…again a rule you agree to from day ONE. The shooting can be completely legal self defense and the permit revoked as I mentioned above.
Perhaps you should wait for LAPD’s report on the shooting and an explanation as to why he has a sheriff issued ccw while living in the city of LA. before jumping to conclusion and spreading what is possibly a BS story.
Nikolaos Halkides says
1. Requiring a permit is an infringement on the right to bear arms, and a permit which requires you to forfeit other important rights (here, the right to remain silent, as you yourself note) is especially obnoxious.
2. California permit holders “agree” to the permit conditions because they don’t have any alternative if they want to protect themselves. Stop pretending this is some kind of voluntary agreement – it is coercion by a government that hates the right of self-defense.
3. Bottom line here is the man did nothing wrong, yet he’s being stripped of his right (not a privilege) of self-defense. Why are you supporting this?
walt farr says
He is still can have a gun at his house or business……no permit required for that. I agree Calif gun laws are terrible but from the video he did nothing wrong in the shooting. Same group who scream for not jumping to conclusion in police shootings are now doing just that …assuming the cops did something wrong by only hearing from one side.
PS he doesnt give up the right to remain silent and he should only talk with an attorney present. Since Commiefornia treats a ccw as a privilege not a right and we are stuck with the 9th Circus court of appeal I would say get an attorney and follow his or her advice.
Jeff Bargholz says
The CA Supreme Court declared it illegal to prevent conceal carry a few years back but it doesn’t enforce the ruling.
walt farr says
Not remotely true
ron says
And all of those rules clearly violate the 2nd Amendment.
Jeff Bargholz says
How would you know his conceal carry permit was issued by Sheriff Luna who’s the Sheriff of all LA County and can definitely issue permits.
Jeff Bargholz says
Yeah, that video is obviously fake. Derp.
HPJ says
Taking his license is like putting a target on his back. Despicable!
Steven Kardas says
I sure hope Mr. Ricci was wise and has top notch Conceal Carry insurance. He’s gonna need it to defend himself in court. If the leftist can not get rid of the 2nd Amendment their work around is to crucify anyone who legally defends themselves with a firearm in court.. Ask Kyle Rittenhouse, Patricia and Mark McCloskey, Daniel Perry etc…about that.. Prosecutor’s will put your behavior before, during and after the event under a microscope. What you tell the world about yourself on social media, even your stupid bumper stickers. You may be justified in defending yourself but as we see, prosecutor’s today WILL crucify you. They look at everything and will attempt to paint a very damning picture of you strongly suggesting guilt to the jury. Note to all Law Abiding citizen’s: Criminals nationwide conceal carry without “permits” and do not fill out those cute Federal forms asking if you are a criminal when getting a firearm. Only goody goody’s do that.
Dennis Campbell says
“…Their work around is to crucify anyone who legally defends themselves with a firearm in court..” Pretty hard to do since it’s almost impossible to smuggle a gun into court.
walt farr says
Absolutely correct and that pile of filth called Gascon (Soros butt buddy) loves to go after anyone using a gun for self defense. If you dont live in the LA area you might not realize that Gascon has gone back 2 decades in police shootings to re investigate…..including shootings that the Grand Jury CLEARED. .
All were cleared by the prior DA and the department investigators. Gascon sees the boogey man in every police use of force and every self defense shooting by a civilian. Since SOROS D/A’s are all over get ccw insurance and dont say a thing without an attorney and for God’s sake dont email details to what you assume are friends.
Jeff Bargholz says
It depends where you live.
NAVY ET1 says
There’s never a reason to defend staying in Los Angeles, either.
Ugly Sid says
Their lives, their deaths, are irrelevant.
It’s their obedience that counts.
SPURWING PLOVER says
Its quite easy for those arrogant old Peacocks who walk about town protected by armed guards but its quite plain to see that they think they have special privileges that makes them think their better then us Birds sitting lower on the roost
Paul says
“If he moved from an address in the sheriff area into LAPD area his permit could be revoked if he did not notify the proper authority.”
That is a partial gun registry. Those have been determined to be illegal.
You know who, where they live and what they have. It is everything for Stalin, Hitler or anyone similarly minded needs to confiscate all guns.
Of course Walt can live with any legal or illegal gun law no matter how onerous. He lives in a better part of the metro area. Very snobbish
walt farr says
Quite a jump to conclude that I can live with any gun laws………I guess I can conclude you have no reading comprehension since I never came CLOSE to writing that . This is why conservatives tend to lose…pointing fingers inward instead of fighting the enemy………..know who your enemy is. Explaining the law doesnt mean someone agrees with it genius. only that they have a grasp of it.
Jeff Bargholz says
Conservatives never lose because left-wing arguments are stupid and evil.
walt farr says
The feds cant “legally” have a gun registry but supressors and Class 3 you better believe they have records of.
Commiefornia has had handguns registered when purchased since the 70’s and about a decade ago started registering long guns. Nothing illegal for a state to do.
Lets also not forget the talk the Feds have kepts records of all firearm transactions for many years. Not doubt they are salivating about using them to confiscate.
walt farr says
Here is an interesting twist from the KTLA (CH 5) website
On Saturday, the Los Angeles Police Department released a statement on X regarding Ricci’s concealed carry permit that read:
“The Department is continuing the robbery investigation involving Vince Ricci. The Los Angeles Police Department has not issued nor revoked a permit to carry a concealed weapon involving Mr. Ricci.”
Jeff Bargholz says
Yeah, no doubt channel 5 and the cops told the truth.
walt farr says
Your spamming is beyond idiotic. 3rd grade level at best
Mods should look at the posts this spammer 9jeff Bargholz) does and block hiM.
If he isnt spamming a 2nd grader is on the board
Tex the Mockingbird says
Meanwhile Newsom the Stupid Rubs Elbows with China and cleans up the Streets of San Francisco to welcome two of the worlds worst Leaders Xi and Biden
walt farr says
And Newsom is the one who started the decline of Frisco. First as a member of the Board of Stupidvisors and then as mayor. Now he wants to destroy the country and the RAT party will help!