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“Now is the time to say . . . ‘God is queer.’” Who spoke these blasphemous words, and what was the context of the statement?
The words were spoken by Quinton Caesar, a Lutheran pastor in Germany, at the conclusion of the annual gathering of the nation’s Protestant (meaning Lutheran) pastors.
The conference theme was “Now it the time,” and this was the immediate context of Casear’s words (who himself is black, originally from South Africa): “Now is the time to say: ‘Black lives always matter.’ Now is the time to say: ‘God is queer.’Now is the time to say: ‘We leave no one to die.’ Now is the time to say we send a ship and much more and we welcome people at safe harbors, safer spaces for all.”
And how did the crowd of church leaders respond? With sustained applause and shouts of approval, especially for his statement that “God is queer.” (Watch the video here.)
Talk about a picture of an apostate church. Talk about a vivid illustration of blasphemy and spiritual blindness. Talk about shouting to the nation, “We are the blind leading the blind! Come follow us into the ditch!”
And how did the Church Assembly respond to his message? The Assembly said, “Quinton Ceasar gave a very personal and emotionally stirring sermon in the service… He denounced racism and made it clear that many people do not feel safe in the church.”
Ah yes! It was a “very personal and emotionally stirring sermon”! Preach it, brother!
And how did the Assembly respond to the “hateful” comments that Caesar received in response to his message? (I don’t doubt that some of the comments were, indeed, hateful.)
The leadership said, “Nobody has to agree with the statements of the sermons or the elements of the closing services. Exchange and even productive arguments about it are even desired – also among us. But attacks on those who justifiably denounce racism and discrimination in the church lack any form of decency and a culture of debate, they are deeply unchristian. We resolutely oppose this hatred.”
So, the problem was not that an ordained, state-salaried pastor in clerical robes declared that “God is queer.” No, the problem is that people responded with hatred. That’s what must be “resolutely opposed.” That’s what lacks “any form of decency.” That’s what is “deeply unchristian.”
Oh my!
Talk about calling evil good and good evil. Talk about trying to take the speck out of your brother’s eye while you have a plank in your own (see Matthew 7:1-5). Talk about deep self-deception.
And do these leaders really think that the main problem most people had with Caesar’s message was his denouncing of racism? Hardly. It was the blasphemous pronouncement that provoked most of the ire.
Caesar had also stated that, “God is always on the side of those on the margins, who are unseen or unnamed. And if God is there, then there is our place. Love has never been a mass movement. But I’m an optimist.”
So, since God sides with those on the margins, He Himself must be queer. But of course!
Based on this kind of logic, Jesus, who hung out with prostitutes and corrupt tax collectors must Himself have been a whoremonger – and a financially corrupt one at that. That would be an equally sick deduction to make.
Even Germany’s far-right party, the AfD, which is far more political than it is Christian, tweeted that “the Evangelical [= Lutheran] Church has completely distanced itself from the Christian faith.”
This, of course, is completely true, but there is nothing new here. The State Church, as a whole, has been apostate for many years now. It’s just a bit more obvious than before.
No wonder hundreds of thousands of people are leaving these churches every year. No wonder hundreds of church doors are closing and countless church buildings are being sold.
When clergy do not believe that the Bible is really the Word of God, when they no longer preach the gospel, when they themselves do not know God and therefore cannot bring others into His presence, there is no compelling reason for people to attend their services.
What true hope can they offer? What type of life transformation can they promise?
Already in 2018 it was reported that, “Last year saw 660,228 fewer members in Germany’s Protestant and Catholic churches . . . .” (A major reason that the Roman Catholic Church of Germany is also bleeding members is because of the many sex scandals that have plagued it.)
The real gospel will nourish the hungry and the thirsty and challenge the faithful and committed. Human variations of the gospel are no gospel at all. They promise little and deliver even less. They are devoid of the power of God.
Little wonder, then, that church attendance among free evangelicals – meaning, Protestant Christians who are not part of the State Church – is “much higher.”
True Christians want to hear the Word of God. They want to worship Jesus. They want to encounter God.
Consequently, where the Word is being preached (as God’sWord, not as some ancient religious document that is similar toother ancient religious texts), when Jesus is being exalted, when people are meeting with God, true Christians, along with non-believing seekers, will come.
In contrast, if they wanted more of this world’s philosophy, they would simply stay home.
The truth be told, if this annual State Church conference wanted to be accurate with their theme, with one voice they should have shouted out, “Now is the time to proclaim what has been obvious for decades. We are an apostate church!”
May God give courage to the believing remnant. May He pour out a massive spirit of repentance on this very influential (and very lost) country. May the true church of Germany, in all its varied forms and expressions, arise.
Christians should love the sinner but hate the sin. That’s what Jesus did when He mingled with prostitutes and tax-gatherers.
Not only is God not queer, but these people have made homosexuality their god.
Romans 1:2o-32 and Revelations 21:8 are clear on the fate of those who practice sexual immorality, and every other sin. The false teachers who preach that there is nothing wrong with sin and encourage others to follow them have the strongest condemnation
They better pray right and hope God forgives them for that Blasphemy
That thing is NOT German and it is NOT Lutheran.
You are,unfortunately, absolutely correct.
In the book of Genesis, God announces to Abraham that he is going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of extreme sexual depravity. Alarmed and concerned over the fate of his nephew Lot who happens to live there, Abraham in pleads for Lot’s life. Three of God’s angels went to S&G to warn and save him. Things were so out of control there that mobs in Sodom demanded to have sex with the three visitors. Lot turned his daughters over to them as a substitute. Except for Lot and a few members of his family, God annihilated the place. You cannot mock God.
Sexual deviancy and depravity in today’s world means eternal damnation unless one repents and accepts that Christ took the penalty for mankind’s sin. That’s it in a nutshell, folks. Do it today.
Since there is no rational, objective, scientific, demonstrable, way to prove what God is or God is not, what God wills and what he does not, and this fact led to three centuries of bloody persecution, torture, ex-communication, burning-at-the-stake, and wars between competing interpretation, exegesis, and theologies of Holy Scripture, between Catholic and Protestant, and Protestant and Protestant, you Christians had better start being honest about your brutal, deadly, history and keep your religion private and not funded by the tax-payer.
You Christians are as dangerous to freedom, liberty, and capitalism as the Muslims are. The Lutherans were staunch supporters of Hitler.
“So, the problem was not that an ordained, state-salaried pastor…”, no, that is one of the problems, no separation of Church and State in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden,
Finland. There is a state mandated tax funding of the Church in these countries. But state funded Christianity has never worked to safeguard freedom, liberty, and capitalism in those countries.
Here in America we no longer have a separation of Church and State either. The Lutheran, Catholic, Methodist and other Christian denominations are now receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from Joe Biden to house, clothe, feed, and aid the illegal alien invasion and destruction of America all in the name of Christian altruism. Altruism is the glue that binds the Christian Church and the Marxist Church and the now the Muslim invasion of the West. You are your brother’s keeper, the meek shall inherit the Earth.
You saw the word Lutheran and like Pavlov’s dog, you start salivating. You have become a pathetic parrot of yourself.
Let’s list the oft repeated remarks
…….you Christians had better start being honest about your brutal, deadly, history
You Christians are as dangerous to freedom, liberty, and capitalism as the Muslims are.
The Lutherans were staunch supporters of Hitler.
The Lutheran, Catholic, Methodist and other Christian denominations are now receiving hundreds of millions of dollars
Altruism is the glue that binds the Christian Church and the Marxist Church and the now the Muslim invasion of the West.
You are your brother’s keeper, the meek shall inherit the Earth.
Same old lecture. Same old results….no one cares what you think. But here’s what you can do about it:
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
8765 W Higgins Road
Chicago, IL 60631
Toll-Free: 800-638-3522
I dare you.
One of the most disquieting elements of totalitarian movements is the utter selflessness of its adherents. A Nazi or a Bolshevik may not be shaken from his convictions by the killing of those who are considered enemies to the movement, but neither is he shaken when the movement’s frenzy consumes his own family or himself. When a movement turns on its own, to the amazement of the world, those turned on won’t waver from their fervor, even if they are framed and found guilty or sent to a gulag.
Incredibly, most in this position will assist the prosecution, desiring above all the movement’s success and their own reputation within it preserved. These ideologues cannot be reached or dissuaded from their position by experience or argument. Their loyalty runs disturbingly deeper than self-interest. It’s an idealism that doesn’t shatter even when the ideal does. It is only when the movement loses momentum that conviction begins to dissipate.
The Origins of Totalitarianism
By Hannah Arendt
Have you read “The Origins of Totalitarianism”? It’s a great book.
Altruism (self-sacrifice) is at the heart of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and modern totalitarianism. Christianity prepared the ground for Marxism and Nazism.
“How little the masses were driven by the famous instinct of self-preservation,” observes Hannah Arendt, a lifelong student of the totalitarian phenomenon, noting the modern Europeans’ passive, unprotesting acceptance of disaster, their “indifference in the face of death or other personal catastrophes….” “Compared with their non-materialism, a Christian monk looks like a man absorbed in worldly affairs.” “The fanaticism of of members of totalitarian movements,” she adds, “so different in quality from the greatest loyalty of members of ordinary parties, is produced by the lack of self-interest of masses who are quite prepared to sacrifice themselves.” – Leonard Peikoff, “The Ominous Parallels”
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism — who is better indoctrinated in not making the distinction between fact and fiction than someone who has been indoctrinated to believe that everything in the Bible or Koran is true?
Ok, now buy a one way ticket to atheist China or N Korea
The American Constitution is a godless constitution, God is not mentioned once in it, and it was written that way INTENTIONALLY.
“… The U.S. Constitution, drafted in 1787 and ratified in 1788, is a godless document. Its utter neglect of religion was no oversight; it was apparent to all. Self-consciously designed to be an instrument with which to structure the secular politics of individual interest and happiness, the Constitution was bitterly attacked for its failure to mention God or Christianity. Our history books usually describe in great detail the major arguments made against the federal Constitution by its Anti-Federalist opponents: it meant death to the states and introduced an elitist Senate and a monarchical presidency. [History texts] seldom mention, however, the concerted campaign to discredit the Constitution as irreligious, which for many of its opponents was its principal flaw. It is as if recognizing the dimension of this criticism would draw too much attention to what was being attacked — the secularism of the Constitution. In fact, this undocumented and under-remembered controversy of 1787-88 over the godless Constitution was one of the most important public debates ever held in America over the place of religion in politics. The advocates of a secular state won, and it is their Constitution we revere today.” – The Godless Constitution: The Case Against Religious Correctness”, Isaac Kramnick and Laurence Moore
The use of taxpayer money to fund the illegal alien invasion of America is a disgrace.
Catholic Charities and other religious organizations are a criminal racket.
They would not have been allowed to say that Allah was gay.
I suppose if man was created in God’s image then some people consider that He was in their perverted image too.
This is why it is important to recognise that nurture creates more homosexuality than nature.
“Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting” (Galatians 6:7-8).
Just more of the insanity that has infected the West and, especially, its elites. Very sad.
Serpents and Vipers in the Pulpit
Crickets from the church leaders in answer to the question above.
He will stand before God at the Great White Throne and will face a wrathful, righteous, God… and God will say to him : ” Depart from Me, you cursed, into the Lake of Fire that was created for the Devi and his angels ! “
God has given many people over to depravity. They no longer think rationally. So therefore since they chose not to honor God and stand for his truth, he gave them over to a depraved mind to do what they ought not to be done. Romans 1: 28-29. The World is imploding as we trend toward the Tribulation. The devil is trying to strengthen his grip on the world, the church, and on billions of people. Still, to see people literally worshipping the dark side takes one’s breath away.
The Gospel of Horst Kasner.