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The New York Times reported that the Biden administration will abuse EPA regulations to eliminate most real car sales by 2030. The plan is to force 67% of car sales to be electric by 2032. Most Americans won’t be able to afford them, but they’ll have no other options.
Even the cheapest electric cars, which are still far more expensive than their real car counterparts and are just one battery problem away from turning into mostly unusable junk, are out of the price range of the majority of Americans who need an income of $80,000 to make an EV auto loan work. That’s fine in Washington D.C. where the median income of $83,567 is the highest in the nation, but will entirely price much of the country out of the new car market.
53% of Americans earn less than $75,000. Some of the 16% who earn from $50,000 to $75,000 may be able to make an electric vehicle purchase work if they squeeze, cut back on food and clothes for the kids, but the remaining 37% will be completely locked out. And, unable to own a car, they’ll have even bigger monthly payments or, with no transportation, be unable to work.
The new poor will be anyone who can’t afford an electric car. And that’s 53% of Americans.
This isn’t class warfare: it’s class genocide. The Biden administration is moving to reserve car ownership privileges for the Tesla class while eliminating working class ownership and the social mobility and the economic possibilities that come with it under the guise of environmentalism.
Steadily raising emissions standards has pushed the price of a new car toward $50,000. Obama’s emissions standards raised the cost by thousands of dollars, and California, as one of the largest markets in the country, further distorted costs for car buyers nationwide. Prices rose steadily and, when combined with runaway inflationary government spending, shot up wildly.
The average cost of a non-luxury car last year nearly hit $45,000. Since people only have so much money to spend, sales also dropped by 9% and millions fewer cars were sold. Even as America’s population has continued growing, its car sales have been falling.
Who is going to be shut out of Biden’s new banned car market?
The median income of 47 of the 50 states fall below the amount needed to buy an electric car.
The Biden administration is fixated on racial equity, but its ban on cars cuts off the vast majority of black people, Latinos and for that matter white people from car ownership. With a median income of $46,400, black people would either have to dedicate a fifth of their pre-tax incomes to car payments or spend most of their annual salary on a car. With a $55,321 median income, Latinos won’t have an easy time of it and even with a $74,932 median income, white people will be left behind. The new equity will mean that hardly anyone will be able to afford to buy a car.
American automakers, having long ago lost the battle to Asia, instead decided to use government regulations to end competition around price and quality. GM and Ford have squandered billions on green vehicles. Ford alone reported a $3 billion loss on electric cars. And yet the automakers are retooling for a marketplace that has no connection with consumers.
Ford expects to sell 2 million electric cars in 2025. That’s up from 61,575 last year. How do you go from selling tens of thousands of cars to millions? Either the cars are going to get a whole lot better and cheaper, or the automaker expects customers to have no choice in the matter.
The carmaker didn’t even sell 2 million cars in 2023. How does it expect to sell 2 million of a type of vehicle that few want or can afford? The answer is government regulations.
Eliminate people’s ability to buy anything other than an electric car and there’s your business model. And yet the bulk of electric car sales are happening in the luxury segment while the cheapest electric cars are subsidized and still often sell at a loss. But that’s true of a lot of electric vehicles which can lose money no matter how overpriced or subsidized they are.
The Ford/Soros investment in Rivian fared poorly with the trendy electric pickup truck manufacturer spending $220,000 to make vehicles it sold for $81,000.
Numbers like these don’t work, no matter how you subsidize them. They only start working when the business model not only sheds affordable cars, but also private car ownership.
Dan Ammann, the former president of GM, claimed that “the human-driven, gasoline-powered, single-passenger car” is the “fundamental problem” in a post titled, “We Need to Move Beyond the Car”.
Western automakers are moving beyond the car as a product to the car as a service. Self-driving technology combined with apps means car access rather than car ownership. Everyone will ‘Uber’ or ‘Lyft’ while spending far more money on transportation and getting a lot less out of it. And most of all the freedom of being able to go anywhere will be gone. You will not just get into a car and go anywhere you want. Like free speech, that will no longer be an option.
But as the World Economic Forum pledged, “We will own nothing and be happy.” Trust them to keep at least half of that promise.
Much like private home ownership is being steadily eliminated, private car ownership is also on the chopping block. By the 2030s, the plan is that the vast majority of America will not own cars, they will pay money to access them until they aren’t even allowed to do that. The electric cars will consume a growing portion of monthly earnings and will have very limited range. A younger generation may view a time when Americans owned their own cars the way we look back at the days when people could buy guns in hardware stores, smoke cigarettes, and hurl lawn darts.
What begins with 53% of Americans will eventually encompass the vast majority of the country.
By then car ownership will be mostly pointless anyway. Some will try to keep used cars going, but insurance regulations and clean air standards will force them off the road. The Biden ‘infrastructure’ bill already has the government monitoring where you drive and included a measure to allow it to turn off your car. California’s failed experiment in solar and wind has led to brownouts and bans on charging cars. Much as drought emergencies lead to bans on watering your lawn, the perpetual power emergencies will outlaw pleasure drives. Even if you own a car, it will only be yours in name only. And that will make surrendering it all too easy.
The blow of depriving 53% of Americans of car ownership will be initially softened with subsidies and environmentalist virtue signaling. Older generations, best able to afford cars, will be the least affected, while younger generations, least able to afford cars, are already dropping out of the market. By the time their children come of age, they will not even know what they missed.
Americans have let the government strip so much of their freedom and future. Will the majority of the country allow the Biden administration to take away their cars?
Without so much as a whimper
HELL NO!! I will not be owned by the dictatorship of this world.
You already are.
No problem for me, I am 85 years old and by 2034, I will be 94 years old, and I will be dead or too old to drive.
Although I also take comfort in my age – that perhaps I will not see the worst, I intensely desire to fight for the sake of my children and their posterity. King Hezekiah knew of the certainty of coming destruction and was glad there would be peace and security in his time (2 Kings 20: 16-19). I hope he was not complacent.
You and I have both lived long enough to see the differences that young people now do not know. They are being educated in lies and the internet is closing off meaningful information while becoming one voice of leftist propaganda. Our history, their history is being erased.
You and I inherited something beautiful. We have enjoyed it. We can still do our part to preserve it even though the odds are against us. The longer this goes on, the more awful will be the times ahead.
Very well said. 👍 May God have mercy and help us. 😕🙏✝️
I fully intend to still be pedalling my road bike and driving my cars until at least 100 years old.
As to what to drive, I’ve got a few old Mercedes diesels fighting the weeds out back. It takes a LOT to make one of those a lost cause. Parts are still available though getting a bit harder to find.
Funny, we used to go into fits at the cost in parts, machine work, and labour to rebuild an engine in one of those. But these silly elecronmobiles cost ten times a full in rebuild on an OM 920. Then its good for a at least a half million miles. Show me ANY electric car can match half that for long life.
As for fuel might just have to start growing peanuts, corn, or some such thing. And I doubt anyone would bat an eye if I were to order the fuel oil to fill up my stove oil tank……. to “heat my house” you understand…..
Excellent points. In my poorly educated understanding, diesels can be made to run on almost anything.
Im 75. Im past it affecting me too much. But what about the low income and SS people? Just another war on them.
The green revolution faces an immovable barrier; consumers. No dear, we will not buy an overpriced monster, we will invest in keeping our gas vehicles running.
Impractical you say. Visit Cuba where many 50’s vintage Detroit cars are still running. If these insane policies are not reversed look for an explosion in the auto parts and service industries.
The Cubans have been keeping 1950s cars running for more than 70 years. Americans can do that, too.
But as the article says “insurance regulations and clean
air standards will force them off the road”.
They can run illegally and you can bet illegal aliens will be driving them.
Americans not as much.
We will not comply. It is simple.
Biden once, when asked about popular rebellion, quipped that the government had access to superior weaponry. He was right. Our guns are no match for the weapons possessed by our armed forces.
Except the American people have more guns and ammunition than the top 3 militaries combined.
And the better guns, and bombs, and jets, and tanks, argument isn’t going to work just ask any Iraqi, or Afghan, or the Vietnamese, or the Koreans, or…
I would hope enough armed forces will refuse to fire on us and defend us instead. I know I would refuse.
he says slyly as he abandons Bn$80 in perfectly good war materiel Afghanistan.HOW is he certain some of that won’t end up here to be deployed against HIM and HIS boys?
Who says the armed forces will be on the govt side ? A few rifle rounds in a F-15 engine can keep it on the ground.
Insurance and auto registrations are state controlled, and no state can block vehicles from another using its roads. Look for an explosion of fake residences, all you need is a mail drop and a driver’s license from a Red state.
50s cars were maintainable, todays computerized garbage is disposable. Todays “Americans” can’t think their way out of a tool box either.
This is but one step.
They want you off your land.
Pushed into the 15 minute cities.
Totally Controlled so they can systematically kill you.
Only 1 out 14 will be allowed on the planet.
Build Back Better is for Them. Not us.
there are enough of us who CAN and DO have a way with machines. Those who don’t might have something WE might want.
NO government can halt barter/trade/blackmarket
Not in the rust belt. Cars in the North fall apart from the salt used during snow storms after just 10 years of use.
They will choke off the available Gas… they’ll raise the gas prices & taxes…. forced reductions of gas powered anything was always their Plan.
People that are priced out of EV market are incorporated in the plan …they will pay increased taxes to pay for the large tax credits for economically advantaged…. plus paying for 100,000s of attractive equity distributed charging stations. Lower Middle class will not economically be allowed to afford own private transportation.
A life style we all Voted for, in an honest election,
We alone can save the planet, right?
Since the day Biden became President, he has been nothing but a pain to the American people. His policies have damaged this country in so many ways. I hope the 80 million gullible Americans who voted for him have learn a valuable lesson.
After the 2024 election, it will be all downhill from that point on. Your gasoline powered car will be taken away, along with your gas stove, gas clothes dryer, your paper money, your gas lawn mower, your food (bugs will be the new food for you), no private planes except for the elites, and I would not be surprised if builders will have to build smaller homes except for the elites. All this is being done to save the planet which is the biggest lie in the 21st century.
America will never go back to being a decent place to live until the right people are elected in 2024.
President ? You mean this despicable unelected career criminal thug and life time child molester, the diaper rashed benedict beijing lyin biden ?
81 Million my ASS.!
80,000,000 people did not vote for that potted plant. NO ONE will ever make me believe it.
80 million Americans didn’t vote for Biden. The Democrats rigged the 2020 election, and they’ll rig every one after that. Rush Limbaugh said the Left’s goal was to make elections irrelevant, and unfortunately, we’ve allowed them to do just that.
I can’t believe anyone voted for him. They must want to destory the country and themselves along with it.
You want to know why 80 million voted for Biden? I will tell you why, because he promised another stimulus package when he was campaigning. All the voters needed to know was that they would be receiving more money. So, the gullible Americans voted for him. Another reason is because he said that he would allow millions of people to come here and undo what Trump had accomplished. Of course, the non-whites were happy to hear that as more family members could come here.
His entire presidency has been undo what Trump did. Throw in reparations (you can bet Congress will get on board with it sooner or later), forced DEI hires and TDS and you might not get 81M but it will be a helluva lot more than anyone would expect. Never be surprised by what motivates an LIV.
Just wait, until thieves find a way to use those public recharging stations to insert malware into your electric vehicle.
Any Criminal, like the FBI, CIA, DOJ or IRS, not just ordinary Thieves..
This would be mandated from the left that might themselves have an EV, but only as a keepsake. They’ll still have their regular gas vehicles for normal use.
Afterall; they’ll need their gasoline vehicles for when Gavin “Ken doll” Newsome orders that no EVs be plugged in during the guaranteed electrical shortages.
(Leftist policy will continue to result in the same blackouts that resulted in Venezuela, and of course, in California.)
“A chicken in every pot and 2 cars in every leftist garage”
(one an EV and one gas powered 🙂
What a load of bullshit. He is assuming costs & prices are static. 🤦♂️
EVs are following a very predictable downward cost curve. The batteries are also on a very predictable price curve downward.
Real world data shows batteries last a very long time. Tesla battery packs last over 500,000 miles before reaching 89% capacity and then continue to work at a reduced range.
In a few years no one will want an expensive ICE car fueled by expensive gasoline, maintenance repairs and short longevity. If you still want an ICE car used ones will be dirt cheap
Tesla will be building their $25k in their new gigafactory in Mexico.
Tesla’s master plan has always been to sell a high end sports car to finance a less expensive high end cars (S & X), to finance and build more affordable cars (model 3 & Y), now CyberTruck for a more affordable truck, next the $25k car, rinse and repeat.
In order to sell more cars they have to make them affordable which is exactly what’s happening.
All the Govt EV incentives are a complete waste of taxpayer money because EV demand is insanely high.
The author is an idiot.
Teslas are out of the reach of most Americans. Cheaper EVs like the Nissan Leaf see battery declines come quickly
https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/study-real-life-nissan-leaf-battery-deterioration
Battery costs can’t fall much further and will remain quite expensive, the Tesla cult notwithstanding. And Tesla keeps raising prices. There will be no affordable Teslas. Not when Tesla’s business model is made from regulatory credits anyway.
“In a few years no one will want an expensive ICE car fueled by expensive gasoline, maintenance repairs and short longevity. ”
Then why ban them to force people to buy EVs?
If people wanted EVs, the Left wouldn’t have to ban actual cars to push EV sales.
LOL Great cherry picking.
The craptastic Nissan Leaf is the only EV with no thermal management and the very worse battery life by a mile. All other EV batteries including other craptastic EVs by legacy auto last a very long time aka well over 200,000 miles, Tesla’s over 500,000 miles and Tesla’s with LFP batteries 1 million miles.
There was a court case and Tesla owners were paid a settlement based on a hundred thousand mile car, not the half million miles Tesla claimed. Sorry I don’t remember the details, or you can cherry pick the facts.
Do you even understand the concept of freedom? The bigger point is that this shouldn’t be any of the gov’s business what kind of cars we drive. The government wants to control us and force us to drive what and how much they approve on based on this BS doomsday climate change cult!
That’s exactly the point. Perhaps the actual point is to get us all lost in the weeds so we forget about the fact this is just one more intrusion on our basic freedoms. We are told it’s all about saving and repairing the planet when the only thing that will be achieved is more control of the serfs who are being bled dry to pay for all this BS. How ironic the powers that be don’t give a hoot about the environmental standards in the countries that will be mining for and producing all the materials needed to supply the West with their virtuous shibboleths.
Battery costs are and will continue to decline for many reasons including scale of production, improvements in technology and chemistry changes over time. This is a very predictable cost curve.
As far as banning it is nothing more than Govt trying to take credit for something they have no control over that can’t be stopped. Imagine Govt giving people a tax incentives to buy smartphones. LOL It wouldn’t have changed a thing other than waisting taxpayer money. However with EVs the amount Govt is wasting will cause more inflation. 😡
Scarcity says otherwise.
You are either ignorant of the current facts or disingenuous. Don’t hate the disruptive technology, hate our Govt wasting our taxpayer money, causing inflation and a likely collapse of the economy. EVs by their very nature are extremely reliable, longer longevity (battery pack included) and dirt cheap to fuel. Almost all charging is done overnightboff peak when there’s excess power. Take me 15 seconds to charge, plug in when I get home, unplug when I leave. No more wasted time going to the gas station. Imagine waking up every morning with a full tank.
Write EV hate articles won’t stop a disruptive technology. Lot’s of people hated Henry Ford’s invention but it didn’t change a thing. Most of the haters eventually became lovers of cars.
As a Tesla owner I hate everything the Govt is doing. The market should decide not insider trading politicians.
The age of the ICE car is over, sales will plummet before 2030 long before any artificial government mandate.
I’m being completely honest when I say your article is almost pure FUD.
You are leftist shill spewing non-sense, not facts. The International Energy Agency reported that lithium mining would be severely behind by 2025 and estimated that the entire world’s lithium supply would depleted by 2050. Then what genius, horse drawn cars? Everyone driving EVs, with today’s limited technology, is a fantasy. This doesn’t even take into account the failure of even Tesla batteries in extremely cold or hot temperatures, nor the absolute devastation to the environment by tens of millions of discarded, toxic lithium batteries.
Where does the electricity come from? What will you do for transportation when the blackouts come?
Predictions of cost going down are a bit of a stretch in todays world. I would try again.
As we all know, there is more lithium and cobalt on earth every day. These are rare minerals and there currently is no way to make them more abundant and less expensive.
Yeah, yeah, typical lefftist with all the answers, too bad they’re always dead wrong.
Go quack your noise in Venezuela. They’re waiting for you.
Correction: Tesla battery packs last over 500,000 miles before reaching “80%” capacity and then continue to work at a reduced range.
500,000 miles? There is zero data to support your claim. Have a great drone day.
There was a court case the charging system had a problem. The settlement paid each owner $625 dollars, the court paid the owners based on a hundred thousand mile battery, not half a million.
You musta missed Ken Doll Newsome ordering his great unwashed masses NOT to plug in their EVs during the electrical shortages.
The outdated electrical grid can’t handle too many more EVs without causing blackouts.
Like all lefty cultists, everything you said is the opposite of facts.
Tesla is a company built on government subsidies that only succeeds because of government subsidies, like all Musk’s ventures.
Tesla is cutting prices because of dismal demand. They have never hit their sales goal in a year. Musk himself has said the price cuts are to try to sell cars in a market hurt by inflation and a credit crunch. One of the reasons they can cut prices are the government subsidies on EVs (the ones that magically raised Tesla prices by the same amount overnight) that are now being cut back as well. Tesla owners are pissed at the cuts because they didn’t get them or it depreciated their toys worth.
Batteries are on the cusp of becoming extinct. There is not enough lithium in the world to make a fraction of the batteries needed for the green cult push to solar / wind scams and large scale EV production. Lithium is largely mined by slave labor, and the Biden junta won’t approve mining of US sources. Good luck with your battery prices / availability as lithium becomes more and more scarce.
Now, who’s the idiot?
You sound like a silly government drone pushing the party line. Mr. Liberty indeed.
Kind of like the way HE light bulbs have come down in price with scale. Oh wait, no they haven’t. Nor is their lifespan “in the real world,” anywhere near what they claim. Talk about BS and idiots, lol.
The batteries last 7 years then become toxic waste
500,000 miles!? Woo-woo that’s a good one. And of course if you get in a fender bender with the overpriced golf cart, tough luck. In the mean time we will use up all our farmland to put in unreliable solar and whoosh whoosh windmills.
I know people with Prii less than ten years old, their renge has seriously diminished, the price of a replacement battery is $4500, half what I paid for my 1998 Ford van that now has 400K and is still going strong. I’ve had to replace the starting batteries twice.. at about $200 per change, readily availble almost anywhere. I’ve done almost nothing to it over those miles, it is coming due for rear brakes (did front two years back) and maybe a transmission rebuild (parts it $400)
And I can do things with that NO ONE can do with any electric vehicle made: I can SLEEP full length in the back, along with a pile of “stuff” back there too. AND I can tow a 15,000 pound trailer five hundred miles before having to stop and refuel.. which takes ten minutes and its good to do it again.
Ya think I’m a gonna put up with one of those ridiculous electric jitneys? Ten thousand bucks for eighteen years of faithful service and it will still do anything today it could shen I bought it.
You can KEEP your toy cars. Buy a new one now and by the time it needs its new battery they’ll cost what I paid for my whole van.
I will not drive an electric appliance. Ever.
People said similar things about Henry Ford’s cars, they were convince they would keep their horse. 😄
Horses weren’t forced out. Americans chose the car when it became better than the horse. For most Americans, EVs make no sense and they don’t want them. But we always forget, you lefties know what is best for everyone, and you must force people to obey because you are so smart.
must be forced to obey because we are intelligent enough to realise the demands are insane. A whole lot like those injections that will “fix” all our troubles and “keep us safe”. Many of us paid a high prce to DISobey the mandates, because WE knew it was all a scam, and dangerous. Information is now slowly but surely leaking out that shows the whole thing is a scam. We who refused are the ones who will continue on for decades. Many who took the poke won’t, because theyll have joined some of those star athletes who “suddenly died with no explanation” on the field…. or in their beds at home.
Maybe THAT was their whole plan all along.. kill enough of us off with the shots there won’t be so much demand for the battries…… and other “stuff” they want us to have.
Tragic the way so many who took the poke got health problems or died. I tried to warn them but they all fell for the big lie. Why listen to me, when there are zillions of slick professional liars on MSM. I can’t compete with that, with my unsophisticated truth-telling.
Anyway what occurred to me reading your comment is that the poke is like Russian Roulette. An extra 2% a year chance of death, each year for the rest of your life. Plus the possibility of strange health problems.
A comparison only a Braindead Leftist Drone would make.
This lawlessness will finally end when the people of a state force their governor and legislature to declare all federal government regulations null and void within their state. This would allow the development of natural resources (oil, gas, coal) and products (ice cars) that the citizens require and demand. The question now is which state will be the first to do this?
I read or heard on TV recently that the governor of Wyoming plans to attempt to ban the sale of EVs in his state as a way of fighting back. Wyoming, after all, is a significant producer of fossil fuel. Governor. DeSantis of Florida also declared recently that he plans to offer incentives to purchasers of new gas stoves to fight the Leftist push to ban them and force consumers to buy only electric stoves.
It was never about ‘green energy. ‘ It was always about no energy for anyone other than the devil-worshipping, kiddie-raping Elites.
Communists first and always destroy the Right to mobility, the freedom to move about.
Extortionately priced electro-jalopies is the fast track to confining citizens to their neighborhoods.
No, I will not drive some idiotic Toast-Whizz with wheels.
You are right except for EVs limiting travel… Except in Brown out California. EVs are a disruptive technology replacing gas cars as fast as gas cars replaced the horse. Nothing Govt does will slow or speed up the transition. Govt incentives are only driving up the cost of EVs, wasting taxpayer money and creating yet more inflation.
I have a Tesla and made many cross country trips in it. It’s much easier to do than in my gas guzzlers. Don’t hate the technology, hate the fascist commie Govt trying to shove it down our throats.
Then let the marketplace dictate the future of ICE powered cars. If battery-electric cars are superior they will prevail. I suspect that electric cars are most useful for shorter trips but, for longer distance driving, ICE cars, with their longer range and short refuelling times would prevail. But if these regulations are implemented, the only choice will be electric cars with their shorter ranges (even moreso in cold weather), higher prices, long recharging times, and other disadvantages.
Thanks Kasandra. Gas powered vehicles are probably more robust against bad weather.
Yeah you have a Tesla. Stop pushing the Biden propaganda and stop lying about yourself. You are a lousy car salesman.
He’s probably one of those hundred thousand Klaus Schwab trolls who are funded to infest the internet.
Sadly, the leftists and/or Ruling Class want to force us out of our cars and of course out of our homes as we will need to take public transportation that does not go into our neighborhoods. Think of the fun in defending your groceries from thugs on public transit as you head for that tiny apartment. Their ultimate message: Sit down, shut up and pay your taxes.
Don’t forget the govt food made from bugs. 🤢 You’ll eventually get used to the taste and enjoy it. 🤮 Our masters are only doing it for our own good.
And don’t worry about the Kobe steaks they’re eating. They need their strength to rule over us. 👍
Sarcasm is not intelligence
You are pushing their agenda
Very well said!
These people are acting just like Communists.
They are acting at all. They ARE communists.
these people ARE communist…
That is because they are communisits. There are so many Democrats in DC that idolize Castro it isn’t even funny anymore. And brainwashed General Z and the low info voter and the “If it is free, it is for me” voters: but this swine into office. LIncoln was right when he said America will die by suicide, not some foreign power.
Biden is the Enemy of All Americans along with George Soros and his Open Society Group its them that should be on Trial
And we were warned about the Commie Scum by Senator McCarthy Time to Heed his Warnings
I own a 2010 dodge with 310,000 miles on it that I purchased new for $16,000. Still runs like a top. I plan on getting 500,000 miles. By my calculations with a Tesla I would be on my fourth battery by now at minimum cost of $10,000 each. I like to consider it all in cost per mile. The lower the cost per mile the higher the freedom.
Stolen elections have consequences.
The legislation has been written. Have yet to see the highway use tax protocols.! Vehicles will be shut down if not paid up.
EVs are no more than a novelty, so don’t spend your hard earned money on something that can’t drive very far outside the city, take hours to charge, and after twenty years your new battery pack will cost as much as what the car is worth with the old battery pack.
Until battery technology truly comes of age these cars are way over priced for what you get.
Remember also my friends that no where in the United States do we have electrical grids that could handle all the charging that will be needed. Do you remember that right in the middle of the drought over the last few years Gavin Newsom asked Californians to NOT CHARGE THEIR VEHICLES because it would over load our California grid.
There are still no plans to build more power-plants because those morons in the White House actually believe that we can cover the west with Solar panels. This is a lesson on how to destroy a country in two short years when idiots believe they are smarter than the geniuses who design our infrastructure and keep our country running.
The world runs on fossil fuels and there is no way around it…. What type of battery do you think it would take to get one of those huge Container Cargo Vessels from China to Los Angels. Our current technology isn’t up to the task as it currently stands.
Don’t worry. The administration has a secret moonshot program to power the entire country on unicorn farts.
lol, that’s a good one 🙂
I used to enjoy watching the cargo container ships on San Francisco Bay. Imagine the batteries needed to move those behemoths to Asia and back.
ten years ago I read a serious study on the electric car/recharging issue. he conclusion was that if only ten percent of the petrol-fueled fleet of private cars were to be replaced with electric, the power grid and generating capacity across the nation would collapse in hours from the added load. Now I do understand that SOME new generation and grid structure has been added since then, but not ten percent more. Ten percent of the petrol based fleet has not yet been replaced with electric. Much of the “electric” fleet was.is actually hybrid, so it can run on fuel not ions.
Folks like the Gabbling Nuisance amaze me..HOW can they BE so naif, or careless, or just plan WRONG?
Third world country we are becoming…
I believe we are about there now Anthony! Thanks to Crook Biden and the cronies that are behind him propping him up like Soros and Obama.
My personal favorite: the Electric Fire Truck. This single example was for me, the last thing I needed to hear to finally realize that ALL of these people are full-on BONKERS. If anyone desires a fully equipped fire crew to arrive in a battery-powered fire suppression apparatus at 3 AM, when their house is “fully engulfed in flames” they are out of their cotton-picking minds. The weight of the batteries alone compromises the amount of water they can carry. There is NO WAY to deconflict this problem. Add to that the pumping capacity (GPM) after 4-5 hours of high RPM duty cycle and you are better off pissing on the fire! Calling this idea ludicrous would be a vast understatement. To Hell with all of these mind-control zealots.
Abut six years ago I began noting an “odd”vehicle in the Portland Oregon area. It was about a twenty foot dry van, straight truck (big box on a dual rear axle single unit truck chassis) with some potato chip livery along the sides. When I saw it in the morning hours it was zipping along right wth traffic. Impossible to miss livery along the sides declared ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE to anyone who cared. (I did not)
I still remember the day I saw that thing zipping out early in the day, happened to see it limping back, right lane of the freeway in the early afternoon, four way flashers going to beat the band and making MAYBE thirty five mies per hour on flat stretch of freeway, everyone else paying the price (the delay) for the “experiment”. Now I don’t know the length of the route he had covered that day. Nor how long it took them, including driving slowly. But I DO know the empty truck could not maintain the 45 mph legal minimum when traveling on even in short stretch freeway driving.. I also noticed just a few weeks later on that that truck was no longer being used. Much like a flash in the pan.
We’d need at least 100 new nuclear plants devoted ENTIRELY to powering the electric cars.
Do you see them building those? Me neither.
This has NOTHING to do with the climate, it will restrict our ability to travel as electricity will be severely rationed.
Ending our way of life without firing a shot.
Without a doubt.
But the control the media has on the minds of the people who continue to discuss this as an environmental, logistical, economic, or a whatever problem is impressive.
Point out to them the truth of the matter and they can understand it, actually grasp it. Give them 2 weeks and they are back talking about how unaffordable and inconvenient and electric car will be. WTF?
Their minds have a hardwired default setting on this subject.
No cars for the surfs. And for those who believe they are economically out of the reach of government (no cars for you either) they will not let you buy your way out of their tyranny.
Thanks Roberta. Yes, their brains are hardwired. Modeling it as if the brain was a computer, early in life memories get stored, but later they become hardwired in. Then by projection the outside world is perceived in terms of those hardwired memories.
I could explain further how it works by using “checking algorithms”, but noone will probably even understand the top part of this comment so I better stop 🙂
only if we DON”T fire a shot.
but who knows how this will play out. They will continue pushing as fast and furious as they can until……. a Lexington moment” comes along.
I drive a 1999 Ford Taurus. Spare parts can be found in any junk yard. I’m old school. Transportation is transportation. Plus, I’m backyard mechanic handy. Not buying an electric vehicle! While I have the resources, I won’t waste my money on a rolling IPAD, Doubtful, I’ll render assistance to any fool driving one out here in the middle of nowhere either.
I have a 2019 Corolla but still have my 2004 Sebring which still runs too. They wanted to give me $200 for a running car with less than 100,000 on it. I laughed in their face and kept my old car. Still running fine as wine, just a few cosmetic issues.
Good decision. Sebrings are nice.
Ummm, no. The world is already at the breaking point for supplying rare earth minerals needed to build batteries. The Chinese control about 80% of the market. Any increase in demand (10x the number of cars, more solar energy systems, etc.) will drive the cost of rare earth minerals through the roof and the cost of batteries will increase exponentially. Moore’s law for technology only works with tech unconstrained by material supply. That is definitely not the case for batteries. (That doesn’t even factor in replacement batteries for used vehicles, which as of now are completely unavailable due to supply constraints.)
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On a tangent, Trotsky was already using that “Build back better” phrase during the Bolshevik period (1920s or earlier).
if they make life too much worse i expect a national divorce
Where did government get the authority to determine what kind of car we will drive, set emission and economy standards, where we drill for oil, etc, etc, etc?
Those are some questions I have often pondered.
Just who are they to decide if a company drills and pumps oil?
And this federal land that they wont allow pumping, why the hell does the federal government own so much land? That land is in a state, in the least it should be state land. Then the people can elect a governor that is pro or against oil as they please.
Its bs
California handed state lands over to the Federal Bureau of Land Management.
I believe Texas still owns its lands, which support the schools (or it used to, anyway. I have not taken time to research this).
BLM lands are called public lands but those pesky conservative rural citizens of CA have to fight tooth and nail to keep them from being destroyed by un-green unreliable solar fields and wind turbines. Of course, the rural citizen also carries extra tax burdens because we drive farther for medical services, etc.
they didn’t, don’t and won’t.
There are forces behind the scenes pushing this insanity. They are well paid, in cash, kind, status, power. Our Constitution is being consigned to the dustbin of history but ONLY if WE let it be.
Looks like everyone made the important points. Let me add my local experience.
When people tell me that “electric is the future” I ask them if they noticed all the new power plants and transmission lines being build. “Me either!” Then I ask them if they notice Gov. Hochel policy of a massive apartment construction boom near commuter rail stations. “Yes?” What does that tell you?
I just learned that many auto manufacturers will eliminate AM radios in their EVs beginning in 2024. Ford, Volvo and Tesla are among them. This is a deliberate attempt to suppress broadcast band conservative talk radio stations – make no mistake.
Biden wants to force us into these four-wheel tinder box and ignite lots of fires dig up vast areas in strip mines and force kids in other nations to mine the cobalt. Biden is a ruthless Dictator/Tyrant over a totally fake crisis
Well, since 80% of the country will die or be severely disabled from the Bill Gates-Donald Trump-Joe Biden C19 vaccine, it won’t matter what we can/cannot afford.
A return to the horse and buggy may be in our future.
Greenfield has an article on electric cars, and the fact that 53% of the country makes less than $75,000, you need an income of $80,000 in order to be able to afford an electric car, meaning that 53% is A low number, not to mention people who have bad credit, and high health costs, or other issues.
Still thinking of the ramifications of bidens 9 year 2032 plan, we all know that small towns, and the entire middle of the country have lower incomes than the rest of the country. They have no mass transit to speak of, and vast distances to travel. Within the next 5 years as gas cars get older and older, we should see real estate in most of the country collapse, as most of it is abandoned. I bet with all that abandoned real estate, we can expect some more bank failures. I am not sure what the country will do for farmers, who are almost all rural, with lots of poor employees, I suppose offering them basic electrical and transportation services will skyrocket, along with the price of food. Many farms will be abandoned.
The authoritarian westerners must be concealing the massive costs of battery issues, even small accidents requiring total battery changes, imagine the effect on insurance costs! Flammable batteries also have to increase insurance costs considerably. In G-d I trust.