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Gov. Tim Walz may not have been in Tiananmen Square, but tonight he got hit by a tank.
Walz lost on issues, to which the Harris-Walz campaign has a congenital allergy, he lost on style, defaulting to word salads about being a regular guy from a small town whenever a question (like lying about Tiananmen Square when he was befriending members of China’s Bureau of Foreign Affairs) made him uncomfortable, but he lost on television.
Kamala had gotten rid of one confused old white man only to replace him with another.
Not since the Kennedy vs. Nixon matchup has there been a candidate who performed so much worse when people could see his face. And Walz’s bugged-out eyes, quivering apple pie chin, and the profile of a decaying jack o’lantern lost the debate more eloquently than any words.
They say that the radio audience that listened to Nixon and Kennedy debate had a different impression of who won than viewers who caught the black-and-white show. Unfortunately for the governor, few people are listening to a radio vice presidential debate once the sun goes down in Minneapolis. Or are doing much of anything except locking themselves in their homes with a loaded shotgun and a map of the quickest way out past the zombie hordes.
That is to say Gov. Walz performed badly. He performed badly according to CNN, Frank Luntz’s focus group of random schlubs eager to appear on cable news at 9 PM and the major media which quickly pivoted to discussing something, anything else, while pretending nothing happened. Only MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow called the debate for Walz on account of her conviction that J.D. Vance was really a Russian spy named Sergey trying to seduce her.
Walz need not have really shown up. The talented moderating team of Margaret Brennan and Norah O’Donnell put in their late bid for the presidency and vice presidency by debating Vance more effectively than Walz had. It helped that they had control of the microphones.
Brennan and O’Donnell, whose greatest previous taste of power had been yelling at CBS News interns for bringing them the wrong kind of coffee, joyfully smirked at the power to win a losing argument by announcing that Vance’s microphone had been cut off.
CBS News had agreed not to fact-check the candidates. Since they’re a mainstream media outlet, it was obvious that they were lying. You can’t blame network news since lying all the time becomes a habit and its execs even lie in their sleep. Network newsmen have all the credibility of car salesmen and death row inmates finding religion in time for their last appeals.
Days before the debate, CBS News went ahead and violated the agreement by announcing that it would put up QR codes linking to fact checks on its own website. Since no one outside of concert stadiums uses QR codes or visits CBS News, this wasn’t much of an issue. But it didn’t take long for Brennan and O’Donnell to make the most of their 15 minutes by intervening to falsely claim that global warming will doom us all and that illegal invaders aren’t a problem.
And then cutting off Vance’s microphone when he successfully fact-checked their fact checks.
But the gross interventions by America’s leading wine aunts were mild compared to a debate structured around issues that no one cares about outside D.C., NYC, and USC, and in which Vance was being constantly pressed to defend something while Walz was mostly given free rein to tell everyone that he was just a small town boy who loved to ride Huffy bikes to China.
Unfortunately for Walz, O’Donnell, and Brennan, J.D. Vance was up for it.
CBS News has brought in two female moderators with the game plan of doubling down on the Harris-Walz campaign strategy of attacking Vance as an anti-woman abortion extremist.
That strategy failed. So did all the other ones except cutting off Vance’s microphone. And when you can only win a debate by cutting off your opponent’s microphone, you’ve already lost.
Walz might have lost more decisively if he had actually shown up. Along the way he did manage to explain that he lied about Tiananmen Square because he came from a small town, and, more significantly, endorsed censorship and taxing people if they can’t afford ObamaCare.
Most people don’t care that much about where Tim was when his bosses were driving tanks with red stars over democracy protesters, but the last thing they want is to be taxed, fined, or otherwise robbed for not paying for a worthless policy, and they like their speech… free.
“You can’t yell fire in a crowded theater,” Walz, whose knowledge of jurisprudence comes from old episodes of Night Court, falsely yelled. “That’s the test, that’s the Supreme Court test!”
O’Donnell and Brennan didn’t fact-check him on a claim so wrong that it comes from over a century ago because either they’re as dumb as him or slightly less dumb but more crooked.
The good news for Walz is that’s it. After this he can go back to avoiding the press and making up more stuff about his past that never happened. Considering that he lied about his military service, his career as an educator, the start of his political career, he risks running out of things to lie about. But he doesn’t have to worry about being in an actual debate this election cycle.
The bad news for America is that there were elements of a meaningful debate here that were smothered by CBS News which was once again performing the mainstream media’s sacred duty of election interference by making sure few public concerns would get an airing, and that the conversation would be dominated by vital issues like abortion and protecting democracy.
This wasn’t Lincoln debating Douglas because if it had been the moderators would have spent the entire debate interrupting Lincoln to claim that the Democrats don’t actually support slavery. It wasn’t even any debate from before the Obama era where the moderators generally confined themselves to asking questions slightly less loaded than “have you stopped beating the climate yet” and asked questions rather than speaking over the debaters to give the ‘right’ answers.
In a better world, Vance would have actually debated Walz instead of trying to shove past the referees in their cute matching power suits to actually try and discuss the issues at stake. And in a better world, Walz would have replied to questions about China and Israel with something other than claiming to be a small-town boy who happened to spend much of his life in politics.
America needed that debate, but maybe we didn’t deserve it. Instead, we got the slop we learned to expect and will keep on getting as long as the media feels entitled to decide elections and as long as both parties keep letting the media, rather than the campaigns, control debates.
Jeff Bargholz says
I can’t believe Timbecile Awolz is the same age as me. He looks like he could be my grandpa.
And the CBS agitators kept letting Timbecile rebut Vance’s answers but always tried to force Vance to skip to another question, and they were very obnoxious about it.
And they wasted more time on infanticide/abortion than any other subject, which was to be expected. What a fake debate subject. A President cannot change “abortion” law and everybody’s mind is decided on the subject anyway. The pro death side wants to murder babies and the pro life side doesn’t and that’s that. Neither of their attitudes are going to change. Debating it is a trap that conservatives always seem to fall for. It’s a waste of time.
And Timbecile looked like he was about to cry most of the time.
Mo de Profit says
A couple of losers seem to have downvoted you.
Maybe you persuaded them to change their minds about abortion 😆
Jeff Bargholz says
Next thing you know, they’ll find religion, LOL.
MuggsSpongedice says
Timbecile Awolz is poifeckt for these demonic stooges that have put up the worst possible running mate for the worst possible demonkkkrat running for president – problem is the worst possible voters and the worst possible rigging and stealing of the 2024 election is being met with fervent prayer of the righteous!!
Armageddon to ya sweethearts?
Jeff Bargholz says
Not nuclear Armageddon but cultural and free will Armageddon in America are a real possibility. We all know we’re only one stolen election away from that.
NB says
Walz is a big fat buffoon, a serial liar just like Harris. If his lips are moving, he’s lying! We don’t need anymore “Knuckleheads in the White House”!
Intrepid says
Because when I want to show the world how on top of things I am I always say “I’ve become friends with school shooters.”
Tampon Timmy strikes again.
Spirit of TJ says
It was sad commentary that yet again a major media source showed its obvious institutional political bias during a ‘debate.’
Now the media hosts arguably are two-for-two for this campaign ‘debate’ season.
Any host media source and its moderators should be politically neutral, even if they are not privately.
Yet, sadly, bias was obvious last night, as seen particularly in how questions were framed and in how one candidate was recipient of host media ‘fact checking,’ but not the other.
That was despicable.
So, what should be done?
First, host media political bias should not be tolerated; it should be ended.
If a media source refuses to comply, then do not invite that source to host a ‘debate.’
Second, there should not be any host media ‘fact checking’–period.
Why not?
Because ‘fact checking’ is not the job of the host media or its moderators; ‘fact checking’ is the purview of We the People.
Perhaps there is an effective remedy for this current frustration:
Conduct town hall ‘debates,’ where the people ask the questions, and the media host just takes copious notes in splendid silence and turns on and turns off the lights.
We the People. That is what it is all about anyway.
Jeff Bargholz says
All true but Hells Up Harris’s handlers refused to put her or Timbecile Awolz up in front of any objective moderators, only Dirtbagocrat operatives.
Bobby says
I lettered in debate, and so I watched Tuesday’s event from the perspective of a debater. In Spirit of TJ’s post, “what should be done?” — must say, that is one outstanding question! And wouldn’t be beautiful if we could have any influence!
Let me add this concept: We should make DEBATE greater emphasis. generally – I mean, a higher gradent of import – like another threshold of things to consider, like favorite sports – because it is essential for OUR DISSENT here in these United States. (There is a block or voters prefer to stop it altogether.)
Steve Chavez says
The QUESTIONS ARE ALWAYS WORDED where the Democrats can be on OFFENSE and are given the ball to score points while the Republicans are always playing defense, (look at Trump always playing defense and having to defend his positions from what is now learned that Kamala could have been fact checked 32 times) but if an R steals the ball and is about to score an easy two points, the CROOKED referee calls a foul even though the D is ten feet away.
Always: “How can we have more access for abortion, more laws to protect it?” WHAT ABOUT…. “How can we PREVENT ABORTIONS?” Well… how about the female saying: “HELL NO! I’m not on birth control and you don’t have a condom! Yes, my body and my voice says… “LEGS CLOSED!” How about some RESPONSIBILITY? Instead of: “Okay… let’s do this and if I get pregnant, I’ll just get an/another abortion! DO IT! YES! YES YES OH OH….. STOP! STOP! WHAT’S YOUR NAME AGAIN?” ALSO BRING UP MEN AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITY! Instead of Planned Parenthood getting $500 million a year from the government for abortions, how about using the money to PROMOTE BIRTH CONTROL, PAY FOR BIRTH CONTROL METHODS, AND FREE CONDOMS! They’re now fighting for the ABORTION PILL… DUH…. fight for the Birth Control Pill. HOW ABOUT SOME RELIGIOUS VALUES?
VANCE was really smart and now I see why he was first in his class. Walz memorized too much and “WHAT I DID IN MINNESOTA!” Minneapolis is still in ruins and a friend says they’re not going to rebuild many areas “because one spark and the place will go up in flames again!”
Walz’s wife is more COMMIE THAN HE IS! Did you see her coming out with FANGED TEETH? It hurt her to shake hands. Is the son witnessing a shooting, verified? Where was the FALSE VALOR question? Has he been to Cuba and Nicaragua too? Was he a member of any CPUSA front group that went to these countries? IN CHINA IN ’89 when they were barely opening up? DID HE HAVE TO PROVE HE WAS A COMMUNIST/MAOIST and not a spy or counter-revolutionary?
Jeff Bargholz says
You’re absolutely right that the government and private institutions like Planned Denial of Parenthood should focus on birth control methods rather than infanticide. PP would never agree though, because it wants that huge cash flow and I strongly believe those monsters enjoy murdering babies.
The morning after pill that the Medeas are clamoring for rather than birth control pills are evil as well as irresponsible.
Like you, I don’t for one second believe that Timbecile Awolz’s son witnessed a shooting murder, and I doubt Vance does, either. I think he was just polite and gave Awolz the benefit of the doubt because he had no way of knowing for sure whether he told the truth or not and couldn’t prove otherwise.
I feel kind of guilty though, because I have trouble remembering the names of some chicks and there was one recently that I didn’t even know. In my dubious defense she didn’t ask me mine either but she was attractive and performed like an Olympic champion. And I use condoms. Strangely enough the majority of chicks tell me to use them which makes me feel better about possible STDs or pregnancies and almost makes me trust them. Some actually are trustworthy but not all. Some have stolen from me but it’s hard to resist a hot chick until you get sick of her. To have a baby with one of those tarts at my age and finances would be a real problem and I sure as Hell wouldn’t want to cause a chick to have an abortion. And even more, I wouldn’t want any child to have a difficult life, especially if it were mine.
Any single guy who refuses to wear a condom is almost as irresponsible as chicks who deliberately risk pregnancy, and any guy who condones the abortion of his own child is a piece of shit. There’s a lot of shit out there……….
internalexile says
Hmm, it’s hard to imagine any hetero male actually wanting to seduce Rachel Maddow. 🙂
Algorithmic Analyst says
lolol, good one 🙂
Jeff Bargholz says
Please. I’m trying to eat.
Mike says
The first question asked by the moderator was about Israel and yesterday’s missile attack on Israel by Iran. The question started with the false premise that the missile attack by Iran “failed.” The moderator then asked whether the United States should support Israel if Israel decided to launch a “preemptive strike” against Iran.
First, the missile attack by Iran did not “fail.” Some of the missiles were intercepted by Israel’s missile defense systems but some missiles landed and did damage and at least one person on the ground was killed. In addition ,millions of Israelis were terrorized and had to go into bomb shelters during the missile attack.
Characterizing the Iranian missile attack as having failed is just another in a series of efforts by CBS and other Western media outlets to minimize the damage and suffering inflicted on Jews and Israel since October 7 so that CBS can attack Israel for the manner in which has defended itself and its citizens from those who are determined to destroy Israel and slaughter all 7 million Jews in Israel.
Secondly, if Israel does attack Iran after yesterday’s missile attack, that will not be a
“Preemptive strike” by Israel. The Israeli response, whatever it is, will be self-defense against Iran.
This question clearly showed the anti-Israel and antisemitic bias of CBS and the moderators of this debate.
CBS should be ashamed.
The moderator who asked this question should be fired and CBS should issue a public apology for the way it phrased this question.
Tom Samek says
Irangate: Dictated by Iran to the Democrats and then given to CBS.
Jeff Bargholz says
“CBS should be ashamed.” It should be but Jew haters are shameless and shameless liars to boot. All Dirtbagocrats are shameless. They pretend they aren’t Jew haters and actually blame Republicans and conservatives of being “anti-Semites.” Reverse reality lies and accusations are the specialty of the Dirtbagocrats, lefties and their fake news media. As we all know, whatever they accuse us of doing, that’s what they’re actually doing. Bizarro World at its worst.
I have to admit, even I was surprised by the stupidity of the agitators and I already knew they would be stupid liars. They described a horrific missile barrage against Israel by the mullahs and in the next breath ask Vance if he would support a “preemptive” strike on Iran by Israel? WTF? I know CBS hates Israel and dem Joos as much as all the rest of the Dirtbagocrat fake news media but the stupidity those twats displayed is astounding. Obviously their Jew hatred and hatred of majority America makes them irrational and hinders their thought processes. Obviously they thought if Vance supports an Israeli strike on its long term tormentors, he would damn himself. His answer was brilliant and showed just how out of touch and frankly, rabid, the stupid Jew haters in the Dirtbagocrat party are.
The behavior of those two CBS agitators was repulsive and contemptible throught that fake debate but Vance triumphed anyway. Naturally, all the D-Bags and their equally wretched fake news media claim Timbecile Awolz won the debate. Like I wrote, they’re shameless liars.
jcr says
Moderator Dismissal? In a better world, “Yes.”
But CBS and the rest of the MSM are the media arm of the Dem party. Media “Brown Shirts” if you will.
Right now they are back slapping one another.
Algorithmic Analyst says
lol, good one 🙂
Spurwing Plover says
Wall Face looks like he is in a state of surprise just like a Zombie without anything to say but See B.S. Still favors him like they always do with Demo-Rats
slamdunk says
Women are DISGUSTED by JD Vance!
Zelda says
My daughter and I think he’s brilliant and hope he becomes President before long.
Jeff Bargholz says
Me too, followed by Donald Trump Jr, who would be a great pick as VP in a possible Vance presidency in 2029.
Suzette says
You misspelled Tim Walz!
Jeff Bargholz says
Vance has a beautiful wife and three kids so you’re demonstrably full of shit. purple haired dykes, baby killers and other Dirtbagocrat skanks aren’t women, they’e ugly harpies. Men are disgusted by THEM.
Yeah, that whore, Heels Up Harris, (who is ugly) is supposed to be a role model for American girls? Timbecile Awolz is a sex symbol and an example of an honest and honorable man?
You’re a deranged liar. In other words, a Dirtbagocrat leftist.
Cia says
Brilliant take-down, I laughed from beginning to end!
Daniel Greenfield says
Thank you Cia.
Steve says
Incredible. When the Left chooses a diversity hire to try to appeal to white males who’ve abandoned the Democratic Party in droves, it’s even worse than when they chose a presidential candidate whose only recommendation is that she’s “a woman of color” or an appointee whose qualification is that “she” is a eunuch pretending to be a woman.
Daniel Greenfield says
“When the Left chooses a diversity hire to try to appeal to white males who’ve abandoned the Democratic Party in droves, it’”
Joe Biden would like a word.
Tom Samek says
Supporters of the Democrats have become even more uncivil and nasty. I can well imagine that the moderators will be congratulated for having the ‘courage’ to fact check Vance even though it was breaking the rules they set! After all, since they are ‘morally superior’ to us, the rules don’t apply. /sarcasm
Jeff Bargholz says
And the Dirtbagocrat left’s notion of “fact check” is actually fake check. They try to “correct” facts with lies.
BLSinSC says
Well let’s see now!! If I’m not mistaken (I’m sure my wife will correct me if I’m not), the FCC has AUTHORITY over the various MEDIA LICENSES! One sure way to stop the INSANE BIASED PROPAGANDA would be to simply RESCIND their Licenses!! Imagine CBS LOSING (not LOOSING) their LICENSE due to their BIAL and CORRUPTION!! It CAN and SHOULD happen to SEVERAL of them – particularly ALL the Radio Stations that soros just took over! There’s enough LEGITIMATE EVIDENCE to show these people are NOT broadcasting to benefit ALL of the PUBLIC!
Christopher M Myers says
What’s going on here? Are the Dems really going to let Harris and Walz still be their ticket into the White House? I think not. Something is going to happen to prevent it.. I think that they will create a false flag operation to take them out and try put the blame for the whole thing on President Trump. There will be no election because they won’t have candidates. It can’t happen, you say? Think again, my friends. Think again. Or will thay make sure that Trump and Vance are eliminated. They must ensure that there is no election. How they accomplish it is anybody’s guess. I have just thrown out a couple scenarios for your consideration,