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The joint aerial bombing by the British and the United States of Dresden, Germany between February 12-15, 1945, killed up to 25,000 people. They were mostly civilians. The bombings had a devastating effect on Hitler’s Germany and played a key role in Germany’s surrender in the Second World War on May 8, 1945.
On August 6th and 9th of that same year, the United States of America detonated two atomic bombs over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The explosions killed between 129, 000 and 226,000 people. Less than a month later, the Japanese surrendered, thereby ending World War II and Japanese imperialism.
Unlike most trained ethicists, I have no agonistic hand-wringing moments regarding the scope and breadth of these acts of war against enemy combatants. The moral purpose of war is to totally vanquish the enemy. Attritional warfare is the military strategy that best achieves this goal. Military scholars often quibble over what constitutes attritional warfare; nevertheless, we may surmise that any war in which the agents attempt to win by consistently and mercilessly wearing down the enemy to the point of collapse through loss of human life and military resources by any means, is an attritional war. Sometimes critics of attritional war will refer to them as wars of “mass destruction.”
One criterion that may be used to justify what may also be called “wars of total annihilation,” for which the bombings of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki would qualify, is the following: When the arc of the entire moral infrastructure of a nation, or its political combatants, is predicated on the destruction and annihilation of another nation or state and, further, when the citizens of such nations/states or regions or governing units support the infrastructure and its architects, a war of total annihilation can be ethically defended.
Hitler was elected chancellor while running on a rabid and invective antisemitic platform. The Holocaust did not catch the German people unaware. One may describe them—even those who never personally participated in the actual killings of Jews and others during the Holocaust—as killers by means of conviction. Strategically then, we make the claim that terrorists, and war adversaries who begin a war or onslaught against a people, have evicted themselves from the realm of rights. In violating the unassailable and inalienable rights of others they forfeit their own rights. The reciprocity involved in upholding rights claims and inviolable rights is violated by the offender. During war, therefore, offending combatants not only forfeit their rights, but their nations or states or governing bodies revert to a state of nature in which the citizens themselves, as complicit in the offenses exercised by their representatives, are bereft of any legitimate body politic (a government or legitimate state) to protect their rights. The offending state is no longer seen as a legitimate conferrer of justice. If citizens in states where offensive war actors are waging combat are left without a legitimately recognized infrastructure to uphold their “rights” (remember they voted for or lent moral support to an offensive state or governing body), we can say that they have placed their own agency and personhood in a state of war with the defensive warring state and its deputized combatants.
In ending Japanese imperialism and the genocidal impulses of Hitler and his German citizens, or killers by means of conviction, we strategically and morally eroded the distinction between citizens and the nation/state with which we were at war. Anything short of this strategic maneuver results in an altruistic war in which the self-interests of the citizens of the opposing side supersede the rights of, in this case, U.S. citizens. In reality, there are no inherent moral distinctions between the humanity of an enemy combatant and any American. In war, we strategically manufacture a difference to give the war its ethical upshot.
In a similar vein, if a home invader uses his 93-year-old grandmother as a shield while he brandishes a gun at you and your family, leaving you to think he is going to kill you all—you would be under zero ethical obligation to spare the life of his grandmother if you possessed a weapon and had an excellent opportunity to kill him. The moral responsibility for his grandmother’s life lies with him, not you. You have a prima facie duty to protect your life in that situation by any means and at whatever cost to the invader. In that moment your right to your life supersedes any moral obligation you might have to spare the grandmother’s life in the defense of yourself. You cannot be held responsible for a situation immorally imposed on you which then further requires you to compromise your life by any form of a threat put forward by the invader. Morality cannot demand of you that you sacrifice your life for the sake of the invaders’ grandmother’s life. Morality cannot demand that your moral conscience and goodness be usurped by an intruder who uses your goodness and conscience as weapons against you.
Since you have been placed in an untenable and immoral position by a rights violator, you must consider the human shield he uses which he expects you to consider as a legitimate barter for your life—as superfluous and extraneous when it comes to your first moral obligation in this instance: the preservation of yourself and your family’s life, and the annihilation of the invader along with any collateral protection he has improperly deployed in the illicit destruction of your life.
Israel may well have to morally reflect on the morality of an attritional war against Hamas as it makes incursions into Gaza. Does it carry out a protracted war on the ground and by air if that means putting thousands of Israel Defense Forces members at risk of losing their lives?
One of the moral lessons we learned from bombing Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki, is that war is not just about vanquishing the enemy. It is also about inflicting generational damage. Future generations are deterred from enacting a war of vengeance at a much later time or, just as importantly, of repeating the errors of their predecessors. The collective memory of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden is an important reason why other nations will think twice about starting a war with the United States.
The Charter of Hamas calls for the destruction of Israel and the elimination of Jewry from the region and the world. It calls for the establishment of a Global Caliphate. Any preemptive or preventive strike made by Israel against Hamas in response to the invasion of Hamas into Israel on Saturday, October 7 can only be seen in moral terms.
Israel has every right to expect further rocket strikes and physical incursions into its sovereign territory. They are imminent. We may say this with confidence based on Hamas’s past and present unprovoked offensive attacks against Israel. Some of the terrorist insurgents fighting for Hamas today were born after Israel was confident it had severely compromised the infrastructure of Hamas’ sophisticated capabilities by killing several of its leaders 20-25 years ago.
This is not the case. Prime Minister Netanyahu can make another attempt to degrade Hamas. Pressure will be placed on Israel to respect calls for new elections, and the Palestinians will vote for that other terrorist organization, the Palestinian Authority. Israel can also cancel its disengagement with Gaza, rebuild settlements and return to the status quo of around 2004. The cycle will repeat itself endlessly. And the illusion of peace will suffuse the global imagination for the simple reason that much of the world remains antisemitic and anti-Israel.
But there is more to the dilemma than this. Much of the world has a problem grasping the fact that Hamas has a maniacal and congenital hatred of Israel. It wants the country and its Jewish population exterminated. It is a genocidal organization. There is such a thing as intractable evil that habitually wills and executes destruction.
The British and the Americans realized this about Hitler’s Germany, and they irrevocably put an end to a Germany that needed to be vanquished. The Americans and their allies recognized this when truly grasping the capacious and rapacious will of imperial Japan. They utilized the only foolproof method to secure a lasting peace.
Israel can play a cyclical game of one-upmanship with Hamas only to be attacked at a not-much later date. Or it can remember how wars were truly fought when defense fighters knew what the real goals of war were.
In the coming weeks, Israel is going to be asked to exercise great restraint in response to Hamas’ attack, and she will be pilloried when she fails to heed the calls of the global majority that harbors no love for Israel.
To this end, Israel’s allies must recognize her strategic moral infallibility in fighting this new war. This means, to be clear, that any means used to defend against a menacing invading aggressor is proper—the archaic and inapplicable Just War Theory notwithstanding. Maybe then and only then will Israel be able to remember how it used to fight its early wars and remember how the Americans and the British mastered the art of truly vanquishing the enemy in World War II.
Old Fogey says
Islam calls for subjugation of everyone on earth by the sword, by deceit, or by coercion. There is no place in the civilized world for Islam. Eliminating practitioners and supporters of this evil from the land YHWH gave the Israelites is simply following His instructions recorded in Joshua.
Beez says
The ‘Man of Lawlessness’ will soon reveal his identity. He will go to Jerusalem claiming to establish lasting peace.
Beez says
I’m winnowing my suspect list: Mohammed bin Salman, BHO, Alex Soros, Klaus Schwab.
Tionico says
READ your history ANd the bible. They match up well.
Yesm Jesus did fortell that this “man of lawlessness” would indeed desecrate the Temle in Jerusalem, the very on at which He and his men had been examining earler that same day. Jesus gave this prediction as a warning, or trigger: when YOU see THIS happen KNOW that the end is VERY near.. so near, in fact, He told them to don’t even turn round and go downstairs to fetch upir coat, but beat feat NOW and get outta Jerusalem because the mess is gonna happen immedialtely.
Now to history… both Roman (accurate and very detailed) and Jewish records (Flavius Josephus was eyewitness to all these things) both record the NAME of the man who did that, and the DATE on which he did so.. his mame is Titus Imperator, the Gereral who had been dispatched with his armies to Jerusalem to “take care of those Jews”. He arrived and surrounded the city, then went in to the temple, not just the outer courts, but the Holy Place, where he sacrificed a pig on the alter, and ptherwis desecarted the place.
He then learned of a threatening army not far away, left Jerusalem and over two weeks went and despatched that army, roundly defeating it. He then returned ti Jerusalem and systematically and deliberately dismantled and destroyed that Temple, precisely in the manner Jesus had described earlier that same day. at the Temple with his man. Josephus also records that alost immediately this “abomonation of desolation” was perpetrated by Titus the conquering general, thousands of residents of Jerusalem took off, ehading out of town to the north into the hills, precisely as Jesus had advised they do some fortty years earlier.
Cheryl Danver says
The Temple must be rebuilt first. I know some sects believe that ‘believers are the Temple’ but both Jesus and Paul said that the Abomination of Desolation would take place there (as was foreshadowed by Antiochus IV).
These days, the Temple would not take a long time to build. And there are those who believe that what some think is the remainder of the Temple wall is actually the remainder of a building used for the Roman soldiers. After all, Jesus said that one stone would not remain upon another. Some say that the actual Temple location was just a little bit further over, where the natural springs are.
When you read the account in Acts of Paul being rescued by the Romans from an attack by the Jews, it seems like this theory is correct. Any day now, they could uncover an artifact that proves this theory. If so, the Dome of the Rock will not have to be removed in order for the Temple to be rebuilt.
As it was written, so shall it be.
Steve Chavez says
“COME ON MAN!” They’re the Religion of Peace and if you don’t agree, you’re an Infidel worthy of whipping in the nearest public square, an intersection will do, beheading, and/or burning you alive!
If you dare convert to Christianity, they’ll put a FATWA against you. Ask Nonie Darwish, a writer for FPM.
“Islamophobia!”
Michael says
O.F.,
For starters, allow their citizens the equivalent of our 2nd Amendment.
ron says
Well said. The problem is not any one nation or group, but Islam itself. These terrorists are just following the Koran.
ron says
The problem will not be solved until Islam itself is eradicated from the face of the earth.
George says
Yes and we should have dropped a nuclear bomb on mecca and medina on September 12th, 2001 just as we should have taken out the iranian nuclear reactors last Saturday. Gaza needs to be turned into a pile of ash and salt.
John says
God set this all up when he saved Ishmael’s life as a child and then Isaac stole the blessing. God is playing both sides of this just like the powers that be are playing both sides. it’s a no win situation. God’s entertainment….
explain that Bible man.
Cheryl Danver says
You’re not going to like the explanation. Isaac didn’t steal the Blessing. God told Abrarham that Isaac was the one who would be Blessed. If Sarah had not had the stupid idea of Hagar bearing a child on her behalf (not waiting for God), this would not have happened. Human unbelief and stupidity creates the majority of problems in the World.
Gods’ plan is NOT to make humans as happy and comfortable as possible, like a doting Grandpa. He has His Will to accomplish, which ultimately leads to HIs glorification, which He deserves.
Some people resent God for this, but those who do don’t really know Him, nor do they understand His Holiness, or His superiority.
In short, God owes humanity absolutely NOTHING. The very fact that anyone keeps breathing up here and is not in Hell for their sins is purely due to the compassion and patience of God. Anyone stomping their foot and shaking their fist at God is going to lose BIGLY. Funny how the angry humans never stop to think if THEY are the ones who are wrong.
Get with the program, because being in a loving relationship with God beats everything else this World has to offer.
RS says
Islam rules by deception and the sword. or knife. Neither is condusive to a free and safe society.
dani says
When at least FORTY babies have been decapitated by subhuman savages, it’s time to take all gloves off. The IDF should turn the cesspool of gaza into a parking lot.
Snuffy Carter says
Today in the halls of Congress a reporter asked Tlaib if she would condemn Hamas’ beheading of infants. Tlaib had no comment, put her head down, and walked away as viewers observed the large Palestinian flag posted outside of Tlaib’s office.
dani says
Yes, I saw that vile spawn of satan avoiding the reporter. That tub of excrement has no business being in the US let alone holding a political position.
Eva says
She should be added to the list of fatalities just in general principles. Along with the rest of the squad.
Steve says
80 years ago she’d have had a Nazi flag. After all, the leader of the Palestinians (the Grand Mufti Amin Al Husseini, Arafat’s uncle) spent WW II in Berline, exhorting Hitler and Himmler to murder Jews with greater dispatch, organizing a Muslim SS unit in Bosnia, and making propaganda broadcasts in Arabic on Radio Berlin.
Of course, the wokelings and Tlaib herself would shrill, “He wasn’t antisemitic, he was ‘Anti-Zionist’!”
Johnnie the jew says
She’s a piece of fecal matter, period just like the rest of the dhimmirats.
Jason Hill is spot on with his solution.
No compromise.
Hamas is a cancer and needs to be totally eliminated along with the other death cult worshippers who support this manure
RS says
These women , who are muslims, are as heartless as their male counterparts. Any woman that would condone the beheadings of innocent babies of any race, and burning of children alive deserves to be judged harshly. It proves they want to wipe out every generation of Jews! This is no different than King Harod trying to kill the Christ child,, and Hitler and the Nazis sending 6 miillion Jews to death camps in Auschwitz.
LuzMaria Rodriguez says
Many women young and old and old people were seen celebrating in the streets during and after the butchery. They are an ad hoc sub species of modern humans that should be selected out of the human gene pool. Each and every one of them.
Some argue that they have been repressed. That is utterly BS. IF they are repressed, it is they themselves who repress themselves. There are people who live peacefully and who live well in Israel. They came from Africa, East Asia, the North. As soon as Israel gave the degenerates the Gaza, the thanks Israel got was 1500 rockets.
Steve Chavez says
They’re/MSM/(D) next TALKING POINT: “ISRAEL’S OVER-REACTION!” Happens every time as the terrorists launch thousands of aimless rockets and then they scream: “TIME OUT! TIME OUT!”
Israel has LASER-GUIDED MISSILES targeting specific legitimate targets. If one goes astray, or hits a milk factory, WHICH IS USED BY HAMAS USING HUMAN SHEILDS, killing them, the American Left, MSM, go nuts regardless of terrorist rockets with no aiming device!
David Ray says
Remember when that clownishly stupid reporter, Peter Arnett fell hook,line, and sinker for Iraqis wearing “Baby Milk Factory” shirts . . . printed in ENGLISH.
He was citing the shirts as proof we were killing civilians because he wanted to believe his own bullshit.
John says
And since 1973 Roe vs Wade…40 million babies have been killed?
Vengeance is illegal in the US…where are you from?
Una Salus says
Israel’s allies certainly do not include the Biden administration whatever signals they’re transmitting now. All that matters is what the administration does in the coming weeks and months when the media shifts gear from the almost detached coverage afforded Israeli victims and moves onto the pathos afforded to casualties and victims they can wring their hands over.
Dr L says
Agree 100%…don’t wait and slog it out…before the other countries get involved…do what you must to show that this will not be tolerated …target 1..Gaza city target 2. Beirut…3. Tehran. Hit first….justified in my opinion. The world hates Israel and she needs to do what is necessary to save the free world from these evil scum
THX 1138 says
More than likely ALTRUISM will get the upper hand of the Israelis and once again they will stop short of defeating the enemy.
Justice can be more difficult for the executioner to apply than the condemned to receive. Altruism calls for mercy and pity and isn’t the civilized man more likely to feel mercy and pity than the savage barbarian.
Intrepid says
I see you are reverting back to your old habits of altruism and Israel bashing. So you are now playing armchair general.
Hint, it was never out of altruism that Israel stopped short. It was Israel’s sensitivity to world opinion and the fact that they had to get along with the dictators at the UN. They were also dependent on U.S. aid.
Not this time. The IDF will go Roman on Gaza and Hamas. Hopefully we will see pics of Gaza resembling Berlin in 1945. Looks like Hezbollah in the north will get the same treatment.
And you, and your whiny little attitude won’t be able to stop it.
THX 1138 says
What you don’t realize is that Dr. Hill’s WHOLE argument in his article is derived from Ayn Rand and her philosophy of Objectivism.
Dr. Hill could not have formulated his argument without Ayn Rand’s philosophy and moral code of self-preservation and rational selfishness.
Blockheads like you are the reason the West is dying from altruism and self-sacrifice.
The morality Dr. Hill speaks of is the morality of Objectivism.
Intrepid says
That’s a pretty big assumption. Did you talk to him to confirm that? I have a feeling that Hill is not talking morality. That seems to be your bailiwick. After all you actually believe that
laisez-faire capitalism is some sort of moral imperative. It isn’t. It’s an economic system.
I seem to remember that Hill was specifically the one author you didn’t want appearing on this site, on the day you wrote that condescending post to Greenfield on Sept 29:
*Not Jason D. Hill, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, he has tried to gently introduce Ayn Rand’s ideas in a gentle way, but it can’t be done that way. The only way to introduce RATIONAL SELFISHNESS is HONESTLY and CLEARLY and let the chips fall where they may.* THX
But I guess Jason is just hunky dory now. You have called me crazy more than once for saving your posts. I’m so glad I do, because I always get to point out your blatant hypocrisy.
As for your “altruism” accusation, I have been a proponent of turning Gaza into plate glass for as long as Hamas has been running Gaza. You sir, a little late to the party. So don’t even try to show us what “tough guy” you are.
Your silly pathetic philosophy has you so tied up in self-serving knots you can’t even think straight anymore. You live in a world of fantasy. I have a feeling that Netanyahu and the IDF are not thinking about altruism. Why would they? Who wants to be a wimp like you.
Fortunately there aren’t enough blockheads like you to affect anything that happens in the U.S.
Intrepid says
The funny think is I don’t see Rand’s name or Objectivism or altruism in this article at all. So you are simply expressing your stupid opinions again and shoehorning it into your moribund philosophy.
What I see is the Allies’ need for revenge and they carried it out in spades. Without pity or second guessing. And the world didn’t have a problem with it.
Not everything has to do with you and your girlfriend.
Cheryl Danver says
“The world was OK with it”
Not really, because we have had people hand-wringing over “The Bomb” on Japan for decades now.
I find it interesting that somehow, when you burn alive from a traditional bombing, like they did in Tokyo and Dresden (and London), nobody gives a crap. You can even die later from complications, but they don’t care.
Somehow, it’s considered more horrible than putting living people through sawmills, as was done by Yugoslav Partisans to villagers. It’s considered worse than the Rape of Nanking or skinning people alive or even eating the flesh of captured soldiers.
The World cared about “The Bomb” only because AMERICA did it, and it was a frightening weapon that could keep America’s enemies from winning. I sincerely believe that if the Russians had “The Bomb” first and used it on the Germans, the World would have been applauding, especially the Leftist academics and media. Then Russia could have used “The Bomb” as leverage to bring about the Worldwide Worker’s Paradise that they wanted, to the applause of Leftists in America and Europe and China.
We were very Blessed that America got “The Bomb” first. And those who died from it are no more martyrs than the other millions of civillians who died in barbaric, painful ways throughout the War.
THX 1138 says
Burning children alive? Beheading babies?
God forbid the Israelis surrender their righteous wrath and show any mercy or pity on these Muslim savages!
Kill them all!
Intrepid says
Don’t worry folks. It’s just THX getting his “inner warrior” on. Especially after bashing Judaism for the last 4 years.
He’s finally found his vicarious tough guy. Especially after getting called out yesterday for his endless
anti-semitism and Jew hatred.
My fav quote from this clown:
*I don’t recognize any such absurdity as service to my country. I recognize a moral responsibility to my freedom and liberty and the freedom and liberty of those I love.*
Kill them all!….indeed. If only you really meant it.
Yeah man….you tell those Jews what to do from that Lotus Flower of yours in NYC. You are a complete hypocrite.
Kynarion Hellenis says
When THX says “Kill them all!” he resurrects the guillotines of the French Enlightenment. They wanted radical individualism, radical equality and radical freedom governed solely by license to do anything so long as “another was not hurt.” And this requires SUBJECTIVE opinion. What is “equality”? It is SAMENESS, without hierarchy. What is freedom? It is LICENSE. What is individualism? It is the destruction of all social structures CHAOS.
There is a time to “kill them all,” but it should be governed by the godly assessment that another nation is an inveterate enemy. Israel has already warned that Gaza should be evacuated. Now bomb it into a parking lot.
And purge Israel from all muslims, whether “good” or not. It is incompatible with Israel and everyone else. And, while we are at it, purge Israel from all who do not recognize its right to exist AS a Jewish state – and this includes even ethnic Jews who would embrace the so-called two-state solution.
And reclaim the Temple Mount. Cleanse it and embrace it as the unique heritage of the Jews alone.
Intrepid says
Well said. I have been calling for the destruction of the Al Aqsa Mosque for many years. Destroy it and start building the Third Temple. It’s really just a weapons cache as are all mosques….even in this country.
We will find that out when Iran gives the illegal Muslims coming through our southern border the green light to have their domestic Intifada. They will finally find out what facing an armed citizenry really means
I personally would like to see Gaza resemble Berlin circa 1945 after allied bombers finished their job.
The Jews have been on the land for 3500+ years. They should start acting like it.
To hell with international public opinion this time around, especially from Fakestinian student groups on U.S. campuses.
Cheryl Danver says
“As long as no one was hurt”
Yet the Jacobins in particular murdered not only Christian clerics, but civilians as well. Those radicals were much like the ones infecting America now: they hated the idea of marriage and the nuclear family. The fact that they slaughtered their political rivals only proves further that they would not have been as tolerant as they claim.
Libertines always talk about nobody being hurt from moral anarchy, but that is just another lie. The Bolsheviks learned this when, in the very beginning of their regime, they too rejected moral rules. The result was kids roaming the streets who were fatherless or orphans and abandoned women collapsing emotionally and becoming poor alcoholics. So Stalin brought morality back, and it’s why Communist countries often had strident moral guidelines while sowing debauchery among their enemy nations.
A Nation where everyone does whatever they want only breeds destruction of that society.
Taylor says
Good article; I can see why the far left hates you.
Obama–the real POTUS–was explicit: Israel will dismantle Hamas. But then comes the price of having been…allowed… to do so and thats when Israelis will have be strong by saying “no more land for peace”.
Steve says
Obama has never had the interests of the United States at heart- on the contrary, he loves America’s enemies. As for Israel, I’m sure when he’s speaking off the record and imagines he’s speaking “entre nous” Obama would admit he doesn’t believe Israel should exist at all, and would say things that would be equally comfortable in the mouths of Louis Farrakhan or Josef Goebbels.
Cy Bryant says
I’m afraid that the cost of being morally obligated to eliminate Hamas will put Israel in the crosshairs of her enemies until the return of the Messiah. May America be steadfast in its support of Israel.
Michael says
This is fully consistent with the Torah concept of milkhemet mitzvah – war commanded by God. A sub-category is war against the genocidal enemy of Israel, milkhemet Amalek.
Netanyahu was right to tell the population of Gaza to get out. For those that stay, the commandment is to kill everything that breathes, to exterminate the seed of Amalek.
Beez says
Israel should launch a nuke missile targeting the Iranian parliament in Tehran while in session.
Beez says
Cut the head off the snake with a tactical nuke zeroed in on the enemy parliament building.
LuzMaria Rodriguez says
In reality, it is either that or wait a spell and that reptile dumps one on Israel, known in some quarters as the one bomb nation. There is not much wiggle room being such a small nation and a one bomb one at that.
Snuffy Carter says
…and because Iran will nuke Israel anyway as soon as Iran gets nukes.
RS says
They would Nuke the United States and their people too. They are maniacle and obsessed with hastening their Mahdi….Islamic Messiah with nuclear war.
LuzMaria Rodriguez says
One worrisome thing is now with Biden’s gift to them, they can develop a bomb or maybe purchase one or two or three from NK. Surely Kim’s sister would push for the sale and include an icbm or two to close the deal.
Hopefully, our Intel Agencies are awake and not too woke.
Adam Dalgliesh says
The bombing of Dresden and other German cities did not cause Germany to surrender, The Germans fought to the last man, and only surrendered when the Allies had occupied their entire country. Historians still debate whether the nuking of Japan would necessary to end the Pacific war. Some think that Japan would have surrendered once Russia entered the war against them, even if the U.S. had not dropped the bombs. The Japanese leaders were scared witless of the Russians and Communism.
Snuffy Carter says
Japan would never have surrendered without being nuked – their citizens had bamboo sticks ready to fight to the death of their last man. The democrat Truman was a hero – he destroyed America’s enemy. Most of today’s democrat politicians are an abomination – they want to destroy America and save our enemies. If you vote democrat, you are now the enemy from within.
LuzMaria Rodriguez says
So true. No one, not one, should vote for a Dem. Just look at what they have done these last few years. We will be lucky to survive their damage.
Inmate of Earth says
It’s now or never, Israel. Warn up Dimona.
Inmate of Earth says
I meant ‘warm up’.
Steven Brizel says
Wars are not decisively won by being nice to your opponent and civilian population You blockade bomb and destroy their military and economic capacities and to feed the civilian population and eradicate their capacity to wage war as the North did in the Civil War and as the US did during WW2
Sword of The Spirit says
Israel will never have peace in this dispensation of time. After the Great Tribulation period, there will be peace in the next dispensation.
Steve says
There is an attitude difference, as well as a difference in behavior between the typical German in Nazi Germany and the typical Palestinian. The claim among Germans after the war that “We knew nothing” is ludicrous and invites caricature. Casual antisemitism was widespread in Germany (and other European countries- it still is) and Germans certainly were aware of the mass murder of Jews (indeed, exposed to propaganda that Jews were all powerful, they imagined that Anglo-American bombing raids on German cities were retribution for the annihilation of the Jews). But most Germans did not participate in killing Jews or acts of violence against them and felt queasy about acts they witnessed such as Kristallnacht.
In contrast, overwhelming majorities of Palestinians approve of suicide bombings celebrating the murder of Jews. Since the Second Intifada, Palestinians have decorated school playgrounds with murals of exploding Egged buses, and have children’s programs on television celebrating “martyrs”- that is, suicide bombers. The mass murders of Jews, from infants to the elderly in towns and kibbutzim overrun by Hamas, coupled with rapes, beheadings and kidnappings foreshaddow what the Palestinians would do if given the slightest chance. They are by no stretch of the imagination “peace partners”. The Germans constructed an industrialized form of mass killing during the Holocaust, in part because the architects of genocide (particularly Himmler, who early fainted when he witness a mass shooting of Jews near Minsk) felt industrialized, impersonal killing was “more humane” (for the killers). The Palestinians would perpetrate genocide the way it was done in Rwanda in the 1990s. Ordinary Palestinians- men, women and children would enthusiastically participate in “rivers of blood”. And people such as Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Noam Chomsky and Barack Hussein Obama would defend them.
BLSinSC says
I do hope they will be successful and THROUGH in their destruction of hamas and it’s supporters! There should be NO DOUBT that if you are WITH hamas then you are an ENEMY COMBATANT! Keep the power off – stop the arms from coming in – kill everyone who objects to your presence! Make the PAIN so deep and enduring that even the savages themselves understand to never do this again! Israel will have to regain control – TOTAL CONTROL – of Gaza. Gazans should expect to have better lives with Israel in charge since they’ll actually get the aid that is now diverted! BUT, they should be “encouraged” to LEAVE! Yes, encourage them to “migrate” to the great IRAN or the other Arab nations! Would it be that bad for Israel to march them to the border and tell the others “Here – they have worn out their welcome – YOU take them in and deal with them”!! Build more walls and make it a CAPITAL CRIME to enter illegally! HARSH?? Yes, and so is cutting off babies’ heads!!
TRex says
None of the other Arab nations will take them. That should tell you something about the kind of people we are dealing with here. Aside from that, it is not a matter of real estate. Every offer of a “home land” has been rejected since 1948. The morbid and vile objective is to kill every Jew on Earth regardless of where they call home.
Steve Chavez says
OIL BLACKMAIL has been used by Iran since 1979, aided by Jimmy Carter. President’s are afraid to go after Iran because they’ll shut of the pumps. TRUMP stopped their OIL BLACKMAIL by drilling here, drilling now making the U.S. an exporter. FJB depleted our Strategic Reserve for a ten-cent drop is prices which then raised by two dollars. Now $7 in CA and that, I love since they vote for these haters of the United States!
During OBAMA’S ARAB SPRING, the price went up to $114.00 a barrel when Libya and Egypt cut off the pumps and that Brent Oil went mostly to the EU.
FJB SIDES WITH IRAN… ON ORDERS FROM OBAMA, born a Communist, later loved the Call to Prayer, and sides with ALL COMMUNISTS, TERRORISTS, to him and the Left, Freedom Fighters, especially with VALERIE JARRETT, AN IRANIAN, ON HIS RIGHT SIDE!
Maybe FISA warrants will be used to get their phones, emails, and indirect contacts WITH IRAN!
Likas says
The numbers of so called “civilians” : What does it even mean “health ministry ” of fascist genocidal Hamas Gaza regime?
What goes through your mind when the MSM tries the numbers-game of moral equivalence: Between a people under siege ever since VS an ethnic cleansing genocidal (its Charter, it’s actions and speeches – try www.Memri.org and www.Palwatch.org) Hamas.
The same goes to P. Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, etc.
Shame on the terrible track record of “human rights” org. for having Israelophobes managing it for so long.
ed says
We must do our part to help
by removing Biden from office
David Elstrom says
The jury is still out on this question. As of today (Oct 11, 2023) way too much of Gaza is taller than on layer of brick and the hijadis are still fighting. We’ll know Israel has given no quarter when 100% of Gaza is no more than one brick high and all the terrorists and their cheering supporters are dead and buried in the rubble. Gaza delenda est!
Eva says
A ‘war of total annihilation’ should mean exactly that.
The allies did not follow through in germany or japan, which is exactly what they should have done, and exactly what Israel should do now.
There should not be an arab/moslem left alive from the river to the sea.
John says
Justifying the burning of Dresden & Japan, and soon the “Warsaw like Gaza”…Classical, can that be played to Wagner
underzog says
My nephew lives in Israel; served on the Gaza border; served in Jenin, also. He points out the dirty dealings of the people who oppose judicial reform and the loathsome steps they pulled to for a unity government that Bibi is in the process of establishing.
Here is my nephew’s video commentary, broadcasting from Israel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO6vvm9x1cM
RS says
Many were against Judicial reforms and Israel needs them as well as America. Allowing criminals and politicians to change laws that are destrimental to the people is against all freedom. Note how politicians and rulers are making themselves the law instead of following the law.
Isaiah 10:1 “Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people.”
LuzMaria Rodriguez says
Wow, seems like some dirty dealing Dems have moved there.
Semaphore says
All this war talk about “vanquishing the foe” makes for good copy on FP, but I respectfully suggest you all are being played. What should be asked is how did this even happen in the first place. Could it be possible that someone wants a war in the Middle East, one bad enough to disrupt oil supplies to Europe and NA? And with it drive oil prices, and profits, through the cieling? Here’s an interresting article from this morning’s Zero Hedge:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-10-10/evidence-mounts-israeli-intelligence-allowed-hamas-attack-occur
Make of it what you will.
Lukas says
Amna Nawaz’s Leila Molana-Allen lies on security measures against Arab terror – terms it “punishment”
Oct 11, 2023 PBS News Hour.
She first white washed Arab terror, calling it “resisting certain laws.” What a new rationalization.
Since when are Islamic-Arab terror about any “laws?”
Then she paints a negative picture of anti-terror measures, her false line – it’s “punishment.”
Where was this reporter when there were terror attempts daily from Arabs inside Israel?
Was police enforcement then, a supposed “punishment” too?
Brian Rockford says
Himmler said it was necessary to kill Jewish children to prevent vengeance.
Should all Palestinians, all Arabs and all Muslims expect the same, Professor Hill?
Nuke Tehran now, and Mecca next?
Is the only way to end “the longest hatred” the extermination all the haters, actual or potential, bystanders, and children?
Peace be unto Israel, all on its own?
Hugh says
In respect to my poor ability to understand how it is possible for the most adept surveillance state in the history of man to be caught unawares of Hamas’ pending aggression, I would surmise that Israel sought to neutralize local existential threats so that it would not be distracted when neutralizing a more distant one.
Sword of The Spirit says
“Will Israel Do What it Takes to Secure Peace?” THAT is a stupid question immediately as they begin war. My hope is they will do what it takes to secure the death of every terrorist that they can kill. The death of every member of Hamas that they can get a bullet too.